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I Tried Kratom For 60 Days - Here's What Happened
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Kratom is a tree. The leaves are used as a recreational drug and as medicine. Kratom is banned by some states in the U.S. due to safety concerns.
People use kratom for withdrawal from heroin, morphine, and other opioid drugs, as well as cough, depression, anxiety, and many other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.
Using kratom can also be unsafe. Kratom use has been linked to serious side effects including hallucinations, seizures, liver damage, withdrawal, and death. Due to these and other serious safety concerns, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) continues to warn people to avoid using products containing kratom or its ingredients.
How does it work?
Kratom contains a chemical called mitragynine. Mitragynine works like opioid drugs such as codeine and morphine to relieve pain.
Uses & Effectiveness?
Insufficient Evidence for
Anxiety.
Cough.
Depression.
Diabetes.
Diarrhea.
High blood pressure.
Pain.
Withdrawal from heroin, morphine, and other opioid drugs.
Other conditions.
More evidence is needed to rate the effectiveness of kratom for these uses.
When taken by mouth: Kratom is POSSIBLY UNSAFE for most people. Kratom can cause many side effects, including tongue numbness, nausea, vomiting, dry mouth, need to urinate, constipation, aggression, hallucinations, delusions, and thyroid problems. Kratom in large doses may cause trouble breathing, brain swelling, seizure, liver damage, and death.
Kratom can cause dependence when taken regularly. People who use kratom regularly and then stop taking it may experience decreased appetite, diarrhea, muscle pain and spasms, twitches, watery eyes, anxiety, trouble sleeping, anger, hot flashes, and fever.
Special Precautions & Warnings:
Pregnancy: Kratom is POSSIBLY UNSAFE when taken by mouth during pregnancy. Babies born to women who have used kratom during pregnancy have experienced withdrawal symptoms. These babies required special treatment for addiction.
Breast-feeding: There isn't enough reliable information to know if kratom is safe to use when breast-feeding. Stay on the safe side and avoid use.
Alcoholism: People with alcohol dependence who use kratom appear to have an increased risk of suicide compared to those who use kratom but are not dependent on alcohol.
Mental disorders: In theory, kratom might worsen existing mental disorders. Also, people with mental disorders who use kratom appear to have an increased risk of suicide compared to those who use kratom but do not have a mental disorder.
I’ve been taking Kratom for over 6 years. I’ve never had any issues with taking it. The only problem I’ve had was my pain went away, my anxiety went away, and I lost 80+ lbs which is good because I was heavily overweight. It’s saved my life!
Oh wow you lost that much weight I didn’t know it helped with that
@@itsbeau__19 the ground up leaf doesn’t digest very well and so I felt full a lot. This is over a span of 6 years. And I’ve been lucky enough to keep it off.
Did you lose hair.. definitely did
@@tjjace3941 I lost some hair
I just bought a jar today and can’t afford to lose weight. I’m already 140-150lbs and I look too skinny.
Title should be "I took too much Kratom for 60 days"
I been on it 4 years no side affects it is true it takes like 2 hours 2 but and withdrawals suck also sti can get you it’s not bad tho and money costs
Entire comment section is a bunch of butthurt junkes and soi bois whining and crying about how good kratom is and don't listen to this guy and something about their moms or fathers dying of cancer. Nobody gives a damn about your junke soi boi problems or your families. It is hilarious how high people are supposed to be stereotyped as "super chill hippies" when every pot and the opioid user is a triggered Reddit mod transincel troll. Baseem was fully honest about overdosing, but also never said buy/do not buy and said how they openly hide the serious side effects or Kratom big or small doses by you people on forums.
This is why everybody laughs at you georgie floyds and amy whinehouses and take dumps on your graves whenever you people die from drug addiction. Stay BIG MAD.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@crispylizard4348 how good is the quality
@@saucysetsdunn469 krabot is better i got it for 89 for 1000 grams
My mother used kratom for pain related to terminal cancer. She had prescription for fentanyl but always opted for kratom. My mother passed away on November 21, 2021. I feel so glad that she had alternatives for pain relief.
So sorry for yo loss.
RIP
I’m sorry that is rough at least she is at peace now
So sorry for you loss, I’m glad she had something that worked for her in the end.
That blows my mind that you can get prescribed fentanyl . Rip
Man abuses kratom, stops cold turkey and experiences withdrawal. Shocker.
Kratom is an incredible medicine. Be responsible and don’t abuse it.
@Tatsuya Nakamurata it certainly is for me when I’m in crisis.
Well said
@Tatsuya Nakamurata please, define medicine
@Tatsuya Nakamurata It's not a vitamin it's just a herb.
@Tatsuya Nakamurata They're similar but kratom isn't technically an opioid.
I broke my collarbone snowboarding in February, I got surgery and opted to take Kratom powder instead of oxycodone and it was the best thing I’ve done especially during the lockdown in NYC, which probably lead me to addiction. I started my RUclips channel again full time and I’m finally back on track with my life. Thank you to Kratom for managing my pain and avoiding me further addiction to prescribed opiate painkillers.
If you managed to stop then it’s great!
Did you take it in pill form or powder or some other form? What brand and dosage did you use? Do you think the kratom helped the healing of your collarbone?
What is the easiest way to take it (in drink, capsule, etc)? Which kind, and dose schedule for pain?
Where do you get it?
@IknowUstalkMyRUclipsAlso can you drink while taking kratom? I have a gathering where everyone drink. Will I get sick if I drink?
I've been taking kratom for 10 years and never felt high. Rarely ever felt any euphoria. Kratom does not compare to oxy. Hate when people compare it and give it a bad name. This plant saves lives, doesn't destroy them. Dont abuse it, stay at low doses and drink a lot of water and you'll be fine.
What’s a low dose???
@@bradentoncane8830 good question bud. Low doses dont work for me but does for many people. I take 5-6 grams at a time. Many people say less is more which is cool if that works for you but doesnt for me. Maybe since ive been taking it for so long or since I had a pain killer addiction so my tolerance was already high. How much are you taking?
Then why do you take it if it does nothing to you? Lmao.
@@avoldme for chronic pain
5 grams gets me pretty damn high with no tolerance
I struggled with Opiate addiction for years. Lost my 20+ year career in Fire/Rescue, lost my marriage, contemplated suicide more than once, couldn’t hold down a job…
I was desperate and eventually read about Kratom in February of 2022.
It took all of thirty minutes after my very first OPMS Gold shot to feel like myself again for the first time in YEARS.
It totally ended my desire to find opiates. Zero desire for that Oxy. It reversed years of chronic pain, GI issues, I was able to actually get restful sleep, had energy to get out of bed and get back to living life.
I am now several weeks into an incredible career (not a job, a career), and am well on my way to rebuilding a life that I can be proud of.
Actually switched from OPMS Black shots to the Borneo green vein capsules yesterday. Still need to get the dosage dialed in, but so far, the caps seem to be working just as well at a lower dose than the shots.
This stuff is a God send.
God bless bro🙌
🙏🏻
Love hearing stories like yours ❤💪🏻
What strain or kind were you using
Are you still hooked on the kratom
One question,,, what was your diet like during this process? Also were you drinking alcohol or caffeine products or any pharmaceuticals during process?
Thanks for sharing your experience although kratom is natural because it is literally just a leaf. You could compare it to a coca leaf or a poppy flower, but to compare it to heroin or cocaine is a bit disingenuous considering how much chemical processing and extraction need to happen to create both of those substances
This guy is full of it, saying it is in the opiate family is wrong, it is in the coffee family, assuming that his stomach issues are due to Kratom is terribly faulty logic, this guy is a moron
Seems like he tried it and it worked so well in treating his adhd and boosting productivity that he went wild with it and took too much.... then swears it off instead of taking a minimal consistant dose
Well it's his experience and we should respect that. But you are absolutely right. This plant is not part of the "opioid family", it's actually part of the coffee family oddly enough. I think what he means to say is that the alkaloids interact with opioid receptors. That isn't inherently a good or bad thing, it just is what it is. I think the biggest caveat that should be taken from this is that if you are going to use this it should be done responsibly as we don't have studies on the long term consequences. I do think it's worth having on the market.
I appreciate you being honest and open about your experience and so truthful of your own faults regarding it. I have been using Kratom for around 5 years now and it's taken multiple bouts of sickness to get myself disciplined in its usage. Right now I take 1 teapsoon 3 times daily. These are at set times, (7am, 12pm and 7pm). Every dosage is taken along with a mushroom complex, and green complex with probiotics. These things are EXTREMELY important in order to keep your gut balanced. There are ways to maintain long term and keep your overall health, but it really takes research and testing with your particular body type. Things like your overall diet outside of Kratom are also a huge factor. I have a pretty sizable food forest that I have created on my property, so I am also not ingesting garbage food from the store (exceptions to this though). My point is that as long as you're actively living a healthy lifestyle, and being proactive to support your gut, you can almost completely mitigate the bad effects. Regarding libido, I have not experienced a decrease so I cannot comment.
Its not an opiod at all. When I took it never felt high or euphoric it just took the pain away
The primary active chemical acts on mu opioid receptors, so its an opioid. And I feel very high and euphoric taking concentrates of that drug, mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine. But I guess "shhh" I don't want it banned 😆
I know this was a year ago but u sound stupid saying this if u take a high dose u will be feeling like ur on an opiod
it’s not a opioid but does act on some opioid receptors, it’s part of the caffeine family.
I think a general rule of thumb is that if a substance is psychoactive then you shouldn’t take it daily. Well unless something is chronically wrong with you and that didn’t seem to be the case. Thank you for the honesty with your experience! more people need to be forward with this. (Btw I do Kratom every once in a while)
I was drinking alcohol with it and the next day I had a bad back ache.. glad I found out about this channel
I started taking kratom in capsules (~2g per day) a couple of weeks ago. I’ve been suffering with chronic pain for 3 years. Taking kratom, I’m pain decreased enough to be able to work more hours (I’m a Massage Therapist), and get stuff accomplished with the increased energy/decreased pain. I’ve even been able to take a yoga class and exercise! HUGE change/improvement! I’ve never experienced feeling high while on kratom, only energetic, calm, and MUCH LESS pain. I have to have bloodwork done routinely due to other meds I’m taking. I pray there are no adverse side effects from kratom because it’s been the ONLY thing that has actually HELPED me.
It’s the best thing for you in measured doses
Make sure to keep up the blood work and have your liver enzymes checked, most deaths from kratom are due to cocktails of prescriptions and mainly the prescriptions fault.
@Paul sansonetti
What's DMSO? Never heard of it.
@@EnaAlready Just try to make sure you don't take more than 3-5 grams a day and to not take it everyday either (maybe 3 days on 1 day off). Also every month or so it's good to take break for an entire week. If you stick to taking it like that you shouldn't experience any tolerance or health issues.
It’s a sneaky substance and will have a good hold on you before you realize… and maybe you realize it has a hold on you, but you’ll justify using it as there’s plenty of positives with Kratom. I was taking around 15-20 grams a day for 3 years. I committed to a cold turkey quit when I had my knee operation and have been Kratom free for 1 month. The withdrawals are brutal. Skin crawling, chills, headache, cold sweats, hot sweats, restless leg syndrome, body aches…etc.
I love Kratom, and still think about it daily… considering using again with a much stricter approach… haven’t folded yet though.
Thanks for sharing your story, hope your health is fully restored by now.
Thank you Baseem for your help!
Not trying to diminish your experience but IF you have pancreatitis, you would be doubled over in extreme agony; never mind sitting up comfortably and shooting a video. You would be in hospital within the first 8-10 hours of experiencing pain that virtually incapacitates you.
You can only use this drug if you know how to handle occasional drug use. If you use it for recreation, never take it for longer periods of time, so don't take it every week. Make it an enhancement for special occasions and it will be fun and beneficial for your mind. This advice goes for any drugs period.
Great advice
I want to try It as a recreational drug, do you think that i Will have problems of I'll take It like Every two weeks?
@@lapom5669don't take it on a set schedule, that's how habits form, just take it every once in a great while, like one might do with magic mushrooms.
I did it, not even every day, for six months and the withdrawal was horrible. It went on and on and on. I could see why a person who is okay with being on it all time would think it was great but my experience is that it is really awful shit to stay the fuck away from.
Hey man. This is a great video. Some of the exact same things I go through . Constipation i really hate
Been on Kratom everyday for 6 years straight before it became popular or before you saw it at gas stations. I take 12 Kratom capsules with 2 ginger and 2 vitamin D every single day for years with no issues or problems.
Take probiotic with it everyday and it will go away
You're literally just not drinking enough water. smh.. Kratom is a really fine powder.. You have to drink a lot of water if you take it regularly.
With libido issues. Digestive issues. I would guess hydration could fix those two. Especially if you're eating it dry or tossing and washing it down. Steep it like a tea then filter through a "brew buddy" this gives you digestive system a break and you still need to drink like twice amount of water. If I do that I have no issues with my digestion and not only strong libido but strong like bull...lol if I don't drink lots and lots of water when I consume kratom I feel pretty s***** the next morning although I'm mixing it with a lot of marijuana as well that probably has something to do with it my foggy head dry eyes that don't want to open. Also I would recommend weighing your doses digitally because guessing with a teaspoon you can easily overdo it. 3 to 5 g when I lean towards three grams I feel more like I've drank coffee. if I push past five grams or more I don't feel like doing much of anything especiall banging.
I've been drinking everyday since about 2005. And became addicted to hard drugs as well. Thanks to kratom I am alcohol, methadone, benzos,, cocaine, meth, and heroin free! I never thought I would be able to say that ever again in my life. I am keeping my dosages down to 3 g, drinking copious amounts of water and I'm able to skip days without withdraw symptoms.
Honestly most libido issues would be fixed with regular exercise meaning five to six days a week
I know EXACTLY what you went through and it's likely not pancreatitis, nor is it the kratom itself. I had the exact same issue where it started to give me really bad gut pain and I felt sick and feverish. You may not believe me, but it's the literal leaf matter, not the kratom. The powder should not be consumed the way people do it in the west. *** It should not be swallowed! *** I've been using kratom for 4 years daily now and had the same issue as you after the first couple weeks. I almost just gave up with it. Then someone online told me you need to make a boiled and filtered tea out of it. After doing it the filtered way, all those negative symptoms went away forever. It never makes me sick anymore, BUT the withdrawal is horrible.
How do you make this?
Exactly because the plant matter is actually a toxin
@@maaikewilhelmina1457 It takes a long time. You put a few cups of water (I usually put 6) in a medium sized pot. Then weigh out the kratom. I do anywhere from 7g to 20g - depends on your tolerance. Put that in the pot on max heat. It will start foaming as it begins boiling. Blow on the foam or use a spoon to crush it. When the foam starts to get less, turn the heat down to medium low and let that do a slow boil for 30 mins. After this, turn off the heat and slosh it around a lot to make sure all the sediment is floating around. Pour that into an aeropress quickly and in the sink. I get two big glasses of tea from this or three medium sized ones. It lasts all day. Make sure when you have later glasses that it's fully reheated and sloshed around again or it will be an unbalanced dose. It's kind of a PITA, but once you get good at it, it's not too bad.
@@bradyelliottallthingswildo3455 How do you know it's an actual toxin? I thought it was just irritating to the organs.
Thanks for this. I just had it for the 3rd time and swallowed the powder! I feel a little sick but not too bad. 😆 Lesson learned! 👌
Did you make sure your product was not contaminated? Heavy metals are a problem.
Thank you for this video. I just bought some red white and green version and I don’t think I’m going to take them now.
One important aspect you didn’t mention is the products themselves. What you experienced was likely caused by bacteria contamination of your product. These leaf powders can often be contaminated with bacteria due to moisture in the bag, improper storage, etc. They can even be contaminated with pesticides and heavy metals. What is extremely important is that one must make sure to inform themselves through online forums such as reddit, where they can buy the highest quality leaf powder. Many people use it for years without any complications. The complications arise, when you buy the stuff from random websites or even worse, headshops, gas stations, etc.
you couldn't have said it any better👌👌 the lies have got so deep it hard to keep track of them.
it's so frustrating trying to tell people they've probably been dosed with some synthetic opoid or chemical and then not beleive it.
Been doing my researching lately. Favorite small batch vendor ??
@@nickh3279lionize herbs
You took way too much, and millions of people have pancreatitis who have never taken kratom. I understand warning people, but with the amount you took it’s not a fair warning. I do agree they need to put the amounts to take on the package, but everyone can and should go online to find the amount to take. I don’t know if it’s mind control or not, but I still don’t take the recommended amount, and it still helps.
Me too
It was a fair warning if one takes to much this will happen. So yea thank the man for bringing us truth and take it as it is
Thank you for your honesty and awareness! Very important
I just started taking kratom 3 days ago…….. I am trying to get myself off of opiate painkillers and lessen the withdrawals from em…….. so far so good……. Not getting “high” but at the same time I’m not getting dope sick. I did my research on kratom and weighed the pros and cons. For me personally, kratom is a better alternative to painkillers. It’s a “harm reduction” thing………
Good video with your own honest experience and opinions on it. Take care and have a blessed day! Wish me luck in my addiction recovery!!!!! I’m gonna need it!!!!!!
How’s it going for you bro??!!
@@Keystone_kultivatorsit’s going to be an up and down road……. but it’s going in the right direction.
Im definitely addicted to Kratom. Been taking it about 3 months now. First few months about 2 heaping tsb twice a day. The last month the same dose but bigger heaping tsp’s and about 3-4x/day. The good thing is that it’s so much powder and so gross to have to chug down that’s what limits me to using anymore than I do now. What sucks is I feel flu’ish when I don’t take it so I know that’s a withdrawal 😑
Yeah man what I found works best is start a slow taper, start cutting back morning dose first so the night dose will still help you sleep, might feel a little uncomfortable during the day but staying busy and slowly cutting back doses is the way to go. You start to get used to the smaller doses with not as bad withdrawal as stopping cold turkey but the hardest part I feel is the mental urge to dose again. You can do it though, it's worth it!!
Get off that shit dude, you don’t need it.
You’re not even deep in the addiction yet. Back off as soon as u can bro the withdrawals will have you throwing up and shitting your pants if you keep abusing it long enough
@@silbernagle09 I'm addicted to I get sick asf web I stop been 2 years
@@poppaganja3793 yeah it gets out your system within 4-8 hours and have to dose again, used to have to keep some ready by my bed wake up half way through the night feeling sick, slowly taper down, yes it feels shitty but will feel so much better in the end!!
I have major backs problems and huge social anxiety problems not I originally took it for my back pain and omg it’s amazing also it gives you a ton of energy! But I found that absolutely cancels out all of my anxiety! Going to the movies later take some and no nervousness going to the mall? Take some no anxiety at all! I love it!
how much you take ?
Were you ever diagnosed with pancreatitis? I searched for a video for the results but I didn’t see one. Thanks!
Thank you for making this video.
You sound ridiculous saying -- "there's no dosage for it," yes there is... 1-3 grams is a normal dose. About one teaspoon(roughly 2 grams). 4-5 grams is a good amount. 6-10 grams + is a heavy dose. More than that at once is a bit too much imo. You shouldn't need more than maybe 2-3 gs for a beginner if it's good quality. Always buy from well-reviewed vendors (I recommend mitra man) smoke shop powder is gonna be bunk. There you go
Just tried 1/2 teaspoon Red Bali with gatoraide . Feel pleasant alert and a strong feeling of well being. Recovering from intensive cancer surgery. I do feel a slight effect. Also suffer from anxiety and depression.
Fast forward to now, did you get hooked?
@wjckc79
Probably. Probably mixing it up too.
hey bro I'm sorry to hear about that, maybe an extract of kratom would have worked a little bit better for you, maybe what it was was just taking the powder and it was not filtering through your body the right way my friend I'm super sorry that that is happening to you right now that sucks man
I been taking it for about a week now super help me with my pain I have two broken legs and is really helping will stop using after I get back to normal 🙏🏻
Taking kratom is better than being suicidal all day. I don't even care if it's gonna cause me to die within a year. I'll take those negative side effects any day, just give me my kratom.
I totally agree with you! I have severe anxiety, also have a terminal illness. I'm getting such relief from pain, anxiety along with other issues and I say that too, just give me my kratom! I've had zero problems and I take high doses! Thanks for saying that!
Still sounds like you're suicidal lol
@@yungmentalproblems Well, you are right. I'm still suicidal. But at least with kratom, I feel motivated enough to do things like studying, cleaning, reading, working out, hanging out with friends. My goal is to create a lot of good habits on kratom, so that I can distract myself when I get sober and keep on pursuing those good habits.
@@berchy2111 yeah sounds like you have a lot more to live for than I had in my dark times. Rethink yourself.
That’s so wild, I would get hiccups from it too! I always thought that was weird lol.
It's fucking with your digestion
Broooo no way that happens to me too I notice
its strong sometimes
I get heartburns….but it has helped with my fibromyalgia
Hope all is well and you are doing better now
My mother has had chronic pancreatitus for about 15+ years and has never ran a fever from that
No side effects and I’ve been using Kratom for 5 years now. I’ve even tried the other strains. I’m looking at Kava Kava as well. Best of luck to you and your health bro! Love from 🇬🇧
Good for you
Side effects when you quit buddy
5 years no withdrawal, I call cap 🧢
@bill Covey might as well be
@bill Covey bro Kratom can stop withdrawals from fentanyl lmfao, what are you saying .. it causes the same stomach issues, constipation, body pain and aches after extended use and it can even lower Testosterone, sure it’s less harmless than most opiates but it’s the exact same shit different pile, don’t downplay it like it’s just a plant in the coffee family
I've been taking kratom for a year and a half and I was taking a massive scoop 2 times a day and was withdrawing 12 hours after if I didn't take it so I went and got a scale and and started weighing it and started at 12 grams two times a day and im down to 3 grams a day.
Dude, be careful, it fucked up my stomach really bad.
3 grams is too much, but 12...wow. 2 grams once or twice a week should be sufficient for pain.
@@nooneatnowhere that’s obviously subjective, pain is relative…
You still withdraw after 12 hours?
How is it going now?
Kratom is abundant in Malaysia but its illegal. Normally the dealer just boil the leaves and we drink it by sip , and smoke weed.
Did you feel pain in your lower abdomin in the early morning ?
You abused Kratom, therefore abuse should be discussed and addressed, some Kratom testimonies run towards taking 50 to 100 grams per day and then they blame Kratom when its abuse.
Thanks for speaking up for the libido issue, this is a side effect that you will most likely have when taking molecule that binds to opioid receptors. Most people will pretend they don't have it but when I was taking it I was like.. man there's no way not 90% of people taking it feels like this, since this is purely logical for a drug that will release lots of Serotonin, which is a transporter to Prolactin. So down the line you have spiked up Prolactin all day long, which is one of the hormone released after having sex which makes you feel satisfied and not wanting to have sex anymore.
libido is not a problem for me at all i have a strong libido even with kratom. I don't notice any difference
I've been taking kratom for 6 years now. I had no idea this was causing my low libido, I use to always think about sex. Now I dont. Does it effect the quality of your sperm too? Because weve been trying for a baby for 5 years.
The focus is amazing
Great Instructional Video.
I too noticed how it seems like everyone is just praising Kratom. We need more people like you Baseem to spread truth.
Just spreading my experience. And drug addicts losing their mind.
Been taking Kratom for 5 years never came close not once to end up in the hospital. You make it sound so dangerous and from my experience i would call it extremely safe and affective
that's why it's called "my experience", some people can have different issues
Im 16 from europe🇭🇺, tried kratom first 2 months ago for my depersonalization/anxiety. In 2 months i took 50grams in all, so i didn’t use it every day, there was 1 or 2 week when i took 1-2 teaspoon every morning and when i got home. It helped a lot, to get interested in the world, but my anxiety is fckin bad, it only helped a few times for that(getting the euphoric effect)
I used white strain, yesterday i ordered another 100g of green. Hope your stomach is okay
white is like crack (not really just an expression lmao) red is what you want for anxiety, coming from someone with extremely bad anxiety
@@ninjawolfist thanks:)
Please buy at least a cheapest digital scale with precision of 0.01g. There are also special wooden spoons for Kratom ~0.5g but even those require a scale for proper dosing. Teaspoon is not the right tool to measure dose of anything - even coffee, tea or sugar. Rule #1 of a smart user (not abuser!) and lifehacker is 'always measure your dose'. Another rule is 'start low, find the smallest working dose possible and stick to it'. Check out Hamilton Morris for more wisdom in this field.
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻. Hope everything came out well for you.
Thank you for this
Been on Kratom everyday for 6 years straight before it became popular or before you saw it at gas stations. I take 12 Kratom capsules with 2 ginger and 2 vitamin D every single day for years with no issues or problems.
God bless I hate these little fuckersons that get there kratom from a gas station and say the shit is addictive. damn fuckheads
I just use it for 10 days every 2 months when reducing methadone and I have too much side effects sweating , stomach pain and flu like symptoms my dose is very low 3g x3 a day
That’s the issue you shouldn’t take more than one dose and smaller amount
What vein were you using that has a lot to depend on the effects
love the detailed experience. I've never experienced the euphoric high feeling. It works for what I took it for anxiety and insomnia but without the high feeling.
What how? Its so good. I have done basicaly every rec drug out there in the past 10 years and the only drug i ever had become addicted to was kratom.
@@spunkflunk Well what does it feel like?
@@thealchemist5761 kind if like snorting heroine but without the dizzyness and extreme itchyness. Which is why i got addicted to it back in 2017.
@@spunkflunk I got coke-fished once and I'm not sure if it was heroine or some sort of oxycodone but I knew it wasn't coke just minutes after I snorted it because I felt exactly how you said. I was instantly dizzy off of just one small bump, so dizzy I felt like when you get the spins after you've drank too much which made me extremely nauseous I started puking. I felt extremely relaxed, to the point I was drowsy but very itchy, but I held it together enough to play it off like I was fine to get the hell away from the dude that coke-fished me. Once I got home I kept nodding off and waking up, itching and throwing up. I felt just like I took a perc, codeine or norco's but I never liked that feeling and because I loved the Euphoric feeling I got from coke a depressant never felt much like a high to me I guess. One time I decided that I was going to get the Euphoria people get from Kratom so I took alot and no lie I felt the same exact way and I puked it all up lol. It's the nausea and the headache that's the deal breaker for me and I could do with out the itching too.
@@thealchemist5761 your coke has fentynal in it. Be careful you cant find clean drugs anywhere anymore. These rapper’s saying their shits real LMAO its all fake
Strange
If you speak with people in Indonesia
Like I do
They say completely different
I myself have been taking it for years
It helped me out of depression
Sorry I don’t agree with you
Try not taking it and see how great you feel afterwards
@@yungmentalproblems
It can't be worse than depression
@@mickhal1681 uh....well it is depression..... until you use it again, that’s how that works
I’m sorry but white people don’t know how to use herbs and natural medicines. They actually compare coca leaves to actual cocaine. If you go to Peru they use coca leaves to combat extreme heights. I’m sure people in Indonesia know how to correctly use this plant just like people in Mexico and Latin America have used different plants to treat different things for centuries! I’m sorry but white people have zero experience with this and abuse everything due to lack of knowledge and culture and end up addicted to everything.
@@carolinaalcantara1539 Different cultures have different experiences and exposure to different things. FYI: “White people” come in more shapes, sizes, nationalities, cultures, etc. Not one mold as you think. Wow. Try being less narrow-minded. (Guessing you’re a “brown person” who only knows how to do manual labor or cook tacos, lol)
60 days ? Sounds like you liked it too much and spiraled out of control that's a long time
This guys experience is crazy. Basically no one says this with kratom.
Read the comments bro.
@@Baseem "Iv been taking kratom for 6 years and never had any of these effects". Literally the first comment. Also, look at the name of my channel.
I love your channel! Nice seeing you here. I saw your l”Kratom farms in Indonesia” video and loved it! Lol hii
@@Idiamond59 that's my best video by far. Thanks for the support.
can i take it at same time i am using methadone......? i wish to get off the fentanyl that is in addition to the methadone....i want my life back...or should i just get off the train and just use kratom....?
To me, it just sounds like you abused it. I don't think using any substance on a regular basis like that (every day), without caring about the right dose and then working 14 hours is good. I do have kratom here, but I didn't use it so far, because I'm still reading up on it and while your experience is nothing to invalidate, it most likely stems from you misusing it.
To me, substances like kratom are definitely to be used on an "as needed" basis and not like this: "Oh, I'm gonna take 3g of kratom every day, nothing's gonna happen anyway."
do coffee everyday for a month then quit and tell me it dosnt feel the same or a little bit different
Coffee is a drug as well, but doesn’t have that many side effects
At very low doses similar headaches. Depends on tolerance and how long from last use. In general a high tolerance habit will have weird withdrawal symptoms.
I was drinking three strong coffees a day and then stopped. The withdrawal effects were quite strong, for three days I was having problems with low blood pressure, I couldn't crawl out of the bed....
i already used it for almost a year and half. and my doses getting higer and higher and i feel not good when i can't my kratom when i get out of town or places. 😥 i hope i can find a way
U r doomed
I've got my share of mental health problems. Hate the side effects of SSRIs. Might try to grow shrooms at some point and experiment with that. I've been taking Kratom for about a week and it is great but I also don't want to become dependent on it. I think I'll have it as a tool to occasionally enjoy rather than use it daily. Thanks for the warning. There are just a lot of unknowns. Maybe it's great and mostly safe. But I like to be cautious
im the same as you dude, been one may ssris and hate them all, none of them have worked. what strain are you using? i just took some red about 45 mins ago for the first time and nothing really happening
@sharpshorts4254 red is more for pain. I take green or white for anxiety and depression. I buy mine from Your Leaf Your Life. It's helped me more than any ssri. In fact my psychiatrist had me take a genetics test and I found out my body doesn't even metabolize ssri's. She had me on wellbutrin and Lamictal. Eventually I got off lamatical and then wellbutrin. Now I take k. 1 tsp every 4 hours.
Ive gotten off kratom a few times and its not easy, but I also know the there is no quality control on this substance, maybe you where getting low quality stuff that had fillers. Kratom can mess you up especially with your hormones like testosterone, People on steroids report kratom even effects their steroid cycle, which is crazy, but also don't take the quality of the kratom off the table. im pretty much done with kratom, it was a fun ride but I want my sex drive and testosterone back.
Ur very right…it will mess u up
How much grams a day , I feel like lower than 2 grams and space out every other day . You are good
1. Thank you for sharing this. I hope your health improves.
2. As stated, you were using WAY too much
3. You do not know your condition was (or was not) caused by Kratom, even though it is likely due to heavy and frequent use (and over-working).
4. Of course you had w/d’s. Taking that much of anything sustained for weeks, but also Kratom has opioid-like properties so… yeah.
It’s unfortunate you “got hooked” and it’s true its not completely your fault due to no dosing instructions. People DO need to heed warnings like yours from people who have become dependent.
I have been using tiny doses
(about 1/2 tsp) 4-5 days/week for maybe 6 weeks and I can tell I would like to take it forever - but I know enough to say IT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN DAILY.
Yes it helps with ADHD, fatigue, pain, energy etc. Its little short of a miracle!! But that is the first warning to tread lightly. Be careful, do not increase your dosing or use more and more often.
you cant talk about addiction after only 6 weeks lol... i used it 8 yrs, was addicted a.f... its an opioid and opioids are really addictive, most people cant use it for years without damage... and i think it should stay legal, but i hate when people compare the withdrawals to coffee
I am taking 4 to 6 capsules daily for anxiety. Is that considered a microdose?
@@onlyluvisreal6691 its a normal dose and if it stays this way its not that bad.. problems arises in hard times of life, when sht hit the fan and youre going to take more. thats when things go south
@@onlyluvisreal6691 take as little as possible and take breaks when possible.
Research alternatives for your condition and heal the root cause like dirt and lifestyle, heavy metal and chemical detox, holistic dentist, mold and EMFs can cause diseases etc.
Be well!!
@@onlyluvisreal6691 parasites, mold, EMFs, grains and animal products can cause anxiety and petrochemicals from perfumes etc.
I eat as organic and alkaline and anti-inflammatory as possible.
Try just cutting out all grains and grain like seeds for a month and see how you feel!
Look into niacin and inositol and a good B complex and magnesium!
They're all very helpful and needed anyway in case of anxiety.
And some extra vitamin C.
Have a try!
I’ve been struggling with kratom addiction for 8 years.
I take 150 grams of kratom a day it’s poisoning me (I’m poisoning me).
I've never been high of kratom.
So basically you’re saying you abused it … like with everything you have to use it in moderation and make smart choices, you sadly couldn’t make the choice to stop abusing it once you found yourself becoming dependent on it , every addiction is based off the abusers personal choices, if you continue to take it knowing the effect it is having on you is hurting you but you keep taking it then you are the Problem not the Kratom , you made stupid choices and continued to make them over and over again even though you shouldn’t , you are an addict and Kratom is your drug , let’s take responsibility for our bad choices . I grew up on the Rez and we take some things that alter our state for ceremonies and we know that it’s smart to take it a controlled environment and not to abuse it , I’m sorry but your just an abuser who wants to blame the substance instead of the choices you made .
Thank you, i was experimenting with kratum and you gave me the real perspective.
I started taking it to chill out a bit. But I noticed I was starting to get a very negative attitude about just about anything. Then I started to have terrible anxiety about things like going to work...terrible unfounded anxiety.
Started weening down yesterday from maybe a tablespoon twice or three times a day to one-third that amount. I feel shitty, but nothing crippling yet. My anxiety has lessened already.
I can't imagine taking 10,20, 30, or more grams several times a day! Wish me luck!
My Story is: Got hooked on it immediately, 2 years 30 gpd, 3 weeks detox, 24 weeks inpatient rehab.
Kratom is crap!
30gpd is your fault not kratom fault. That's way too much.
Wtf 30 Gs per day. 😂 you must of been trying to get high off of it.
3 to 5 tsp at a time is way too much, especially if it’s not an actual measuring spoon. You need to be exact with ur measurements. 1-2 grams at a time.
Drink lots of water and take magnesium or other supplement as digestive aid, or brew it into a tea.
Don’t take it every single day, you need breaks. Still need to eat and sleep properly. You don’t develop insomnia and the other problems u had unless ur taking too much, too often, and not hydrating properly.
For experiments purpose do it again PROPERLY and with a scheduled plan and bet your experience will be totally different.
This plant, when respected and used responsibly, changes ppls lives for the better.
Thanks for the advice
He took a lot….like come on now. I sleep good. Dude was trying to overdose himself
Everything in moderation
I take kratom every other day, sometimes daily. About a two- or three-grams dose once. I take it for age related issues. I feel a bit lazy on the days I don't take it but other than that, no big deal. It certainly is a drug that must be managed well to benefit from it and avoid taking too much. I smoke weed as well and do it with Kratom. The days I don't take Kratom weed help tremendously. I avoid pharma drugs like the plague. I also grow many herbs which I use as well. It's all about respect for Kratom, if you don't want to become addicted.
Totally agree about respect!
@@reverse6209 Thanks you sir, it obvious to some but many still take pharma drugs. Plants are more effective, have far less bad and deadly side effects and if people had the knowledge pharma would been finished as they now exist.
I'm sorry, but I think your pancreatitis is probably not liked to Kratom use, it is definitely a lot more likely that Kratom has nothing to do with it. There is no medical connection whatsoever between the use of kratom and this sickness. Yes, there are like 2 or 3 stories of people who took insane amounts of Kratom and reported this, but nobody knows if there is even a link, it is just speculation.
Your daily dose btw wasn't that much after all, of course it was quite a bit, but not much. If you take any pschoactive substance daily you might develop some problems. If that's Heroin, Coffee or Kratom does actually not really matter.
I think basically saying "It's all the kratoms fault" is a bit much (I know you aren't). It can be a good tool e.g. for pain patients. I wish you all the best!
Edit: PS: You should have tapered down your dose and the withdrawals would not have been that hard. :)
Will it help with the withdrawals from from opiates? Going to stop at a shop today. It's time I do something about my habits.
The dose of kratom you'd need to help opiate withdrawals will vary based on your level of tolerance to said opiate and your individual biochemistry, but yes it will absolutely help you with withdrawals. Kratom itself can produce dependence and addiction, so be careful!
Also, make sure you buy a scale; even slight changes in dose can completely change the effect it has. I wish you luck, and let me know if you have any more questions, I enjoy studying pharmacology and love to help whenever I can!
@@Nawmps thanks so much. To start 3 grams ? I bought some red Hulu k at a shop today. The clerk said it would be good for me in my situation. I have a scale that measures to the 1k so I should be good.
Can u or someone tell me why I've taken 4 capsules yesterday and 4 today and feel absolutely nothing
I am on SNRIs, Wellbutrin and I used to vape a lot. I started taking Kratom and after taking it everyday for like 3 weeks I got really sick. So I stopped taking kratom. The next day I thought what I was feeling was withdrawal symptoms, so I kept taking kratom.
Turns out I was experiencing the same thing as you, I felt like I was gonna die. Worst pain I’ve ever felt. I don’t have health insurance, so I was very hesitant going to the doctor.
Please do more research before mixing drugs, wellbutrin lowers your seizure threshold more than any other drug out there. Kratom lowers it a very small amount, but when it comes to wellbutrin mixing it with any drug that lowers the seizure threshold whatsoever is insanely risky.
Even in patents using just wellbutrin at typical doses (150-300mg) the risk of seizure is about 1/1000, which is extremely high considered how often it's given out. Absolutely never mix wellbutrin with kratom, alcohol, phenibut, anything that causes seizures.
it's because you're on Wellbutrin if you only took it once a day that isn't enough to get withdrawals especially not as bad as you're describing
People demonize this plant because of their own lack of education about the plant. Harm reduction is what is needed by educating people. Not abusing the drug and then demonizing it because you have adverse side affects.
A lot of people use Kratom as a cheap shortcut to get high ,therefore abuse it . I make tea with it and add some ( don’t know how much ) to normal tea or if going for a walk I sometimes chew half a leaf ( I buy fresh from market ).
It should not be taken every day ,I use it like any other painkiller- only when needed . As it’s hard to know the dosage,best to take too little than too much .
Fortunately I do not have anxiety issues ,I only use it for an injury - which seems to help as I do strengthening and mobility exercises for my injury . If I do not use it and overdo the therapy exercises I tend to get inflammation, but if use light dose I do not get the same amount of painful inflammation - I’ve learned my lesson by knowing when and how much I can push my rehabilitation exercises. As my injury is healing ,tendons getting stronger I use it less often .
So far I have no side effects nor any other issues .just stupidity on my part for over doing the exercises. As my strength is returning,I can use heavier weights and do not need to do a lot of repetitive exercising.
I’d say taking it for no reason is not a good idea .
Same could be said for opium or heroin.
The US gives pilots pretty hard drugs but nobody looks down on that because its well dosed and for a purpose
Of course you are going to have issues if you do it habitually on an empty stomach. Can we get a review for moderate use?
I'd really like to know the outcome of your endoscopy. I've been taking k daily for 8 months now. I've definitely noticed it affects my digestion.
It was inflamed at different parts. Something I never had before
@Baseem thank you for getting back to me. So after you stopped kratom, the inflammation went away? I can tell something is going on in my body and I don't want k to be the culprit. It has done so much good for me.
I was addicted to dihydrocodeine for two years, moving to Kratom helped with that addiction. Anyway, withdrawals from DHC were absolutely awful. Withdrawals from Kratom were bad, but not so bad. My advice to anyone coming off either drug; don't go cold turkey. Buy weak strength codeine (cocodamol, neurofen plus, etc...) and slowly taper.
So It's NOT a miracle as people would suggest. Heroin feels like a miracle when you first start also.😆
nice early cuyler pfp
Kratom is King. I've seen and helped SOOOO many people get off heroin, ect.
Does not get you high. Those are outright lies.
How about not taking it every single day or every week.
I get them in the capsule pills and I’ll take like 3 or 4 a day but mostly only when I’m at work which is 4 days out the week. If you dump 4 of those pills out it would probably barely make a tablespoon.
Use a light touch.
Ive been using kratom for 2 years now. I actually feel guilty to say I love it. No side effects but i def get restless legs if I don't take it for a day. Havent tried to stop completely but I'm sure one day I'll start to cut it back. If anyone can recommend something to skip or ease the withdrawal please let me know!
Have you tried kava kava? Helped me with the anxiety. Doesnt remove the physical pain from withrawal though
@@Jonqen I havent. I will def look into it tho. Tysm!
@@cocomaldo2261 Its pretty mild but can be effective. Also non addictive wich is great. Can be ordered from US
Try magnesium oil for restless leg syndrome
Brother try a small dose of DXM for Kratom withdrawals!!! NOTHING can compare with it in my opinion. It takes the symptoms 90% if not 100% AWAY!!!!!
Thank me later!
No more than 2-3 times a week guys, and space it out!!!
For real! Maturation is key.
why would you take so much...and why would you keep taking it after so much pain....? would maybe 1 or 2 grams be enuf ....?
Kratom is actually in the coffee family.
I've been using Kratom for almost a year now 30-40gs a day it's made me completely apathetic and depressed. I try to quit but it's so difficult.
That's about 10X too much!!
😨😳 That's a hell of a lot of Kratom. Usually the recommended dosage is 3-5g. You feel that way because the more you take ,the more its sedation effects kick in. Lower dosages are uppers. Higher dosages are suppressants.
Bro you should get professional help, I'd lower the dosage as the time goes on until you're at 0. This can really mess you up
Constipation, and sexual problems for me. Especially paired with antidepressants. It helps tremendously with my foot that I damaged in a physical response at work. I have nerve damage and outside of real opiates, kratom is the only thing that allows me to walk. It also helps with my anxiety.
I will say, you can spiral pretty quickly. Especially if you take it when you’re bored. I’ve been taking it since March 2020 everyday and there are times where I’ll push 6 grams, 4 times a day. If I’m not working for instance. Like right now, I’m at home because I got covid and I’m so bored and I take this stuff every four hours.
Must be paired with physical activity and positive behavior.
Pairing it with nothing is detrimental and weakens the body.
you should not be taking Kratom with antidepressants. That will screw your mind up.
@@macD723 very true….that’s dangerous and deadly. I learnt the hard way.
@@stellabrown909 what happened? What are the effects?
6 grams is nothing. I am at 40g a day and my heighest was 80 gpd
I’m on morphine and my spine is held together with rods and screws and I’m going to try and come off it taking it. I have a capsules maker and each one is 800mg. I always eat before any capsules . I also have ADHD myself so I’m looking forward to trying it
don't eat before taking kratom
wait atleast 3 hours
How do you know tbe kratom was the causation and not correlation
I never had any problems in the past until I took it
while i agree with you that kratom is quite a strong drug i am not convinced it contributed to your inflammation. I am sure there is negative effects long term but I do not believe it is very dangerous unless combined with alcohol or some prescription medication. I have not found a reason to stop yet, it changed my life for the better. My tolerance is lower than when I started taking kratom, I think for some people kratom is not for them and they seem to develop tolerance faster and have more negative effects.
I've been taking it for 6 years. It's honestly fine. This guy has no idea what he's doing. Hes taking an extreme dose for pleasure not for any other reason.
I've been taking Kratom for about 5 months, and have no negative side effects at all whatsoever. I just think people need to realize that every person's body is different and just because one person develop side effects, that doesn't mean everybody is going to develop side effects
@@FloetryFox88 u toss n wash or use caps? Caps are the best imo. Toss n washed for years 🤢 lol
@@5310yryr I occasionally use caps but they take forever to take affect. I mainly mix the powder with fruit juice
@@FloetryFox88 I feel you, I used to do that with pineapple or orange juice. The caps imo are easier, don't taste, and kick in within the same time maybe slightly longer but I don't notice. 6 at a time then boosters of 4 throughout the day
I'm not taking it more then once a week, and sometimes I stay off it for weeks. When I feel anxiety, I take a (small) dose and I feel a bit of a "high" that fades after an hour or two.
I have the experience like he did, not constipation, but the reverse. And the days after I get headaches sometimes or even a small fever.
And I like that. It makes me realize I need to be careful. That I can't take it just when I feel like it, but only when I really need it.
I respect herbs and nature. When they give you signs, you listen. And you listen good. You respect the signs and respect your position in nature. If you have trouble sleeping because of a herb, back off. If it numbs the pain, great, but don't use it as a lifetime painkiller. There are healthier ways, even breathing excercises that let you "control" your pain. (Wim Hoff anyone?)
It's a bit like beer really. Or coffee. One numbs your senses (alcohol) and calmes your nerves (due to hop), but in large quantities it will harm your liver.
Coffee makes you feel alert, but affects your heart and nerves.
It's all drugs in a way. It's listening to your body that's the hardest part.
Once you start to slip and slide, you're bound to hit a tree along the road.
Ayy I'm pretty much the same... I hate how people in this community be telling others to keep on taking so their bodies get used to the kratom... It's like they want people trapped in their own cycle
bought 25G today, im living in NL... started with 2 tea cups, i can tell im relaxed... i have ADHD... i feel like i have free space between my head and my brain, PRICELESS!!!!!! i mean, like 1st time in my 45y i don't feel my brain.... gonna see what tomorrow bringz
How long does it take after daily use to lose libito, i take it once or twice a week, 1 time at night, at a high dose, just wondering if i should be woried about lower testosterone at this level of use
Grow a pair of nuts man figure it out on your own
2:58 1 to 3 teaspoons, "probably a lot". Yes, that is a lot. 1 teaspoon or 3 teaspoon? 1 teaspoon is a lot. You have to measure each dose and not exceed that. Its a drug so respect it. The ideal is 1g every 5 hours, not exceeding 5 grams a day.
I totally agree with you, but realize that over time you adapt to it and you start wanting more. and this is why I made this warning video
@@Baseem Every person experimenting with it will realize that, sooner or later. Hope you are using loperamide while quitting. It will make the cravings much less intense.
@Moriel Logos My friend, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are going to go through hell if kratom gets banned. The trick is to taper down to 5-8g and then laying it off, using loperamide, vitamin C, magnesium, ValueMeds sleep-aid and delta 8 thc cannabis gummies to help you through withdrawal. Lets not get butthurt about it.
@Moriel Logos Use the year worth stuff to slowly taper down if it ever gets banned. Kava will give you similar euphoric effect for a while but the effects will fade after an hour, followed by nausea and stomach discomfort. Alcohol hangover and kava nausea will make you want kratom even more. Hope you are in a state where delta 8 thc is legal. Do not get high from it but in lower doses it can help you and provide you that grateful feeling that kratom does. Loperamide will help you not just with the stomach aches but also with breathing and overall craving. The key is to slowly taper off.
@@ak_naral I wish there was more useful information like this on display. I kicked kratom and had horrific withdrawals and swore the drug was evil, but realistically, my protocol for taking it was really flawed. Would just take 3 heaping spoonfuls 3 times a day everyday. I didn't know there were bad side effects from it at all so I just went coo-coo on the dosing. It's like going in blind. How often can you use kratom if you want to avoid nasty side effects? How much is a safe dose? How should you administer it? I really enjoyed the benefits of kratom and would like to give it another chance, given I can do it properly and responsibly.