J.J. Vallow's Grandmother Reveals ‘Jaw-Dropping’ Details in Testimony

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
  • The grandmother of Lori Vallow’s murdered child, J.J. Vallow, took the stand and gave her testimony about the bizarre relationship she had with Lori, and the shocking things she found out through her Amazon account. Kay Woodcock is seen holding back tears talking about J.J.’s sudden death, and recalling memories she had with him.
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Комментарии • 896

  • @nwr7932
    @nwr7932 9 месяцев назад +385

    Kay played the long game like a FREAKING CHAMP

    • @sara31773
      @sara31773 9 месяцев назад +26

      She did. Might have never known the truth otherwise.

    • @barbarah7089
      @barbarah7089 9 месяцев назад +10

      Right strong women
      Maybe all those ouers prays help this angel ❤

    • @kimmoore0427
      @kimmoore0427 9 месяцев назад +13

      Omg Kay is such a badass!!!!!

    • @H37P5kY57
      @H37P5kY57 9 месяцев назад +9

      They certainly did but I really wish they never had to...

    • @StinglikeaBea
      @StinglikeaBea 9 месяцев назад +6

      Amen!!!❤

  • @Lez_awake
    @Lez_awake 9 месяцев назад +340

    I’m also from the Trahan family in Lake Charles. We didn’t know JJ but we knew of him when he was born. We have all been waiting for the end of this nightmare . It’s too bad that Alex isn’t facing his crimes in a court of law but we have a feeling that he is facing much harsher punishment now

    • @sunfollower5623
      @sunfollower5623 9 месяцев назад +16

      Karma must be paid in equal measure.

    • @brengriggs8864
      @brengriggs8864 9 месяцев назад +10

      Hope so!!

    • @bethmcblaze
      @bethmcblaze 9 месяцев назад +12

      hugs to you ❤

    • @MrGrumpyGills
      @MrGrumpyGills 9 месяцев назад +14

      He stopped existing. Some might think of this as punishment, I guess.

    • @papabear2515
      @papabear2515 9 месяцев назад +15

      Our hearts are with all of you.

  • @Adele-b4r
    @Adele-b4r 9 месяцев назад +144

    The grandmother's memory for dates is just amazing!! What a wonderful witness and grandmother.

  • @tanyachristensen5330
    @tanyachristensen5330 9 месяцев назад +584

    Props to Kay for repeatedly saying "Charles' MURDER". No objections on THAT huh? Praying for justice for Lori and Chads victims.

    • @marymendicino7568
      @marymendicino7568 9 месяцев назад +29

      I love that, too!!!

    • @paulinegrant4156
      @paulinegrant4156 9 месяцев назад +61

      She got a quick Tammy's murder in as well. Bravo Kay.

    • @tarakoschnitzke4730
      @tarakoschnitzke4730 9 месяцев назад +46

      Yeeep I was just going to say she got in the "before Tammy's murder" also!!! Way to go Kay, call it as it is!!!!

    • @Noellevrr
      @Noellevrr 9 месяцев назад +20

      I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING.

    • @roxannescott9264
      @roxannescott9264 9 месяцев назад +20

      I love that tooo. I thought and so she should say it

  • @TerriSpringer
    @TerriSpringer 9 месяцев назад +185

    Kay sounds so confident and did an excellent job of testifying

    • @jeanebelleavoine3591
      @jeanebelleavoine3591 9 месяцев назад +5

      She did not miss a beat!!

    • @SerenDipity64711
      @SerenDipity64711 9 месяцев назад +4

      yes she did great! I think because she takes her time with her answers, it makes everything so much clearer, for the listener.

  • @tdbarton7712
    @tdbarton7712 9 месяцев назад +546

    That despicable Chad is pretending to be very busy at the defendant's desk. Cowardice not looking at the photo of JJ and not paying attention to Kay. Shameful.

    • @sunshyn42
      @sunshyn42 9 месяцев назад +54

      i said practically the same thing before i even saw your comment. it almost looks like he’s trying to muster up some tears to give people the (false) impression that he’s a human being

    • @tartnouveau3652
      @tartnouveau3652 9 месяцев назад +40

      He starts fidgeting so much around 21:00 where she mentions JJ’s 7th birthday party was the last birthday she would have with him

    • @TheBooCrew64
      @TheBooCrew64 9 месяцев назад +37

      Right?! And he was causing them “pain” or spiritual attacks, child kllers! Both of them

    • @tinameyer7080
      @tinameyer7080 9 месяцев назад +11

      Attorneys TELL their clients not to engage.

    • @ChildofGod-g8f
      @ChildofGod-g8f 9 месяцев назад +17

      My eyesight is not great and it's so frustrating not to be able to properly see his reactions.

  • @MjollTheLioness-o4y
    @MjollTheLioness-o4y 9 месяцев назад +101

    I so feel for this woman. They took her brother and her grandson from her. It's heartbreaking.

    • @lauries.nicewaner3876
      @lauries.nicewaner3876 8 месяцев назад +2

      And given the circumstances of JJ's birth, it seems she and Larry already have sorrow with their son who is the biological father of JJ. This on top of it all! What an amazingly strong woman!

  • @dorishenderson2979
    @dorishenderson2979 9 месяцев назад +745

    What a great man Charles was. So pleased he gave his insurance funds to his sister.

    • @BlueGiraffes01
      @BlueGiraffes01 9 месяцев назад +68

      I woulda loved to see Lori’s reaction to that!

    • @DeeLite220
      @DeeLite220 9 месяцев назад +35

      @@BlueGiraffes01 same. She was such a “goddess”, I mean, surely she wouldn’t have been mad right?

    • @sandraguthrie276
      @sandraguthrie276 9 месяцев назад +46

      That was the icing on the CAKE!!!!! 😂😂😂

    • @sharonshafer6128
      @sharonshafer6128 9 месяцев назад +3

      A​@@DeeLite220

    • @tartnouveau3652
      @tartnouveau3652 9 месяцев назад +45

      @@DeeLite220 I think they read her reaction texts to Chad earlier and he was like that can’t be right you didn’t consent to the change. These people are so self absorbed

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 9 месяцев назад +515

    This grandmother is an angel.

    • @lucybarrington4634
      @lucybarrington4634 9 месяцев назад +33

      I love that Kay has no use for Chad’s lawyer and doesn’t let him get away with anything.

    • @laurenurban3942
      @laurenurban3942 9 месяцев назад +9

      She may be an Angel but she had an opportunity to save those kids and she waited too long. After Charles was killed, I would have called Lori and offered her the entire amount of the insurance policy in exchange for JJ. Kay never did that. She said that she would have given Lori all the money for the kids but she never made the offer. Lori would have jumped at that….come ON. This is what it’s all about…..money. Of course Lori would have handed over JJ if only Kay would have made that offer. Kay tried to get him back and keep the money too. That was never going to happen due to Charles cutting her out of the insurance. Kay should have just given her the money and for the kids.

    • @nikan7704
      @nikan7704 9 месяцев назад +50

      ​@@laurenurban3942 Right, because surely Kay should have known that Lori would murder Tylee & JJ. Of course! Who in their right mind wouldn't automatically think that a mother would murder her own children!?! It's really a shame she didn't have you there to tell her what she should be doing because clearly you would have foreseen every single thing that was about to happen and could have warned her!
      Tiny hole in your Kay-is-greedy theory though, Charles didn't leave the money to Kay for her own use. He left it to her to care for JJ and give to his 2 other sons. So unfortunately the $ wasn't even for Kay.

    • @whooshr5588
      @whooshr5588 9 месяцев назад +30

      @@nikan7704 thank you for saying just what I was thinking! As if Kay could’ve ever fathomed that JJ was going to be murdered by his mother!

    • @beachydee854
      @beachydee854 9 месяцев назад +26

      @@laurenurban3942 How dare you!

  • @BlueGiraffes01
    @BlueGiraffes01 9 месяцев назад +555

    How sad. Little JJ should be here celebrating his 12th birthday this month. Chad and Lori are evil POS!

    • @muthaship2992
      @muthaship2992 9 месяцев назад +26

      And they thought they were morman godz

    • @sunshyn42
      @sunshyn42 9 месяцев назад +28

      these cases are always terrible when people lose their lives but it’s next level evil when children are the victims

    • @juicyjules7409
      @juicyjules7409 9 месяцев назад +9

      Yes 👍🎉

    • @marcydiamond1750
      @marcydiamond1750 9 месяцев назад

      11¹¹11¹¹​@@muthaship2992

    • @krisbest6405
      @krisbest6405 9 месяцев назад +11

      Signs he fought the attack......l want the DP.

  • @suepinakis3031
    @suepinakis3031 9 месяцев назад +149

    Chad’s body language is completely shutting Kaye out. Not looking at her, squinting, constantly talking to his lawyer in the first minutes of her testimony. He’s not comfortable.

    • @mimiity9585
      @mimiity9585 9 месяцев назад +15

      Chad knows Kaye and Larry were onto him from the start!!
      They could see the facade of Lori and Chad!!

    • @peggyjohnson2438
      @peggyjohnson2438 9 месяцев назад

      He’s squirming in his seat !

    • @CJAmara
      @CJAmara 9 месяцев назад +10

      You’re right and I’m glad he’s uncomfortable. It shows his cowardice and that he’s ultimately guilty. Kay should make him uncomfortable and he should never feel a moment of comfort ever again

    • @melissapekarek3283
      @melissapekarek3283 9 месяцев назад +8

      He can't handle direct communication with women. This is the loser who had to invoke supposed messages from dead grandparents instead of telling his wife what he felt was inappropriate about her playing a harmless Facebook game, or saying her ignoring him was upsetting him during an argument over text with Lori.

  • @konasmom2457
    @konasmom2457 9 месяцев назад +65

    Charles spirit guided JJ’s wonderful grandmother to find the answers. She had money to hire PI’s due to his leaving money to her. I could only imagine Lori throwing paperwork across the room finding out she wasn’t getting crap!
    To find that they used his Amazon acct to buy clothes for Hawaii b4 Chads wife’s passing is chilling!
    Thank you, you wonderful Grandmother!!

  • @lady_nostalgic
    @lady_nostalgic 9 месяцев назад +212

    I love the Woodcock‘s! ❤❤❤❤❤ Such strong people!!

    • @carolyndee4565
      @carolyndee4565 9 месяцев назад +5

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤ l wish l could give them a hug

    • @mimiity9585
      @mimiity9585 9 месяцев назад +2

      @lady_p_
      Sure helps they are from the Bible Belt! Down to earth no nonsense people.
      Not like the entitled crazies on the East West coast.

    • @GrannyDi276
      @GrannyDi276 8 месяцев назад +2

      me too!❤

  • @sandcat66
    @sandcat66 9 месяцев назад +322

    Without Kay and Larry pushing for the whereabouts of JJ, Lori and Chad would still be free. Go Team Woodcock ❤️ Love to Kay and Larry

    • @mistyize
      @mistyize 9 месяцев назад +1

      No kidding. They really were the ones that blew this thing wide open. I mean, in essence we're looking at a serial killer type cult, and they already had plenty of people in the ground, and were actively working to put more people there before anybody knew anything. It's astonishing, really.

    • @alexperkins8433
      @alexperkins8433 9 месяцев назад +38

      AND Nate Eaton from Idaho News. He flew to Hawaii--- NEVER let this go from the beginning.

    • @fezcapone2784
      @fezcapone2784 9 месяцев назад +21

      @@alexperkins8433 one thing for sure… he has been all up in their faces from that day until present… I love Nate, his beautiful family and EIN…

    • @Breakingbadmom
      @Breakingbadmom 8 месяцев назад +9

      Yes and Nate @ East Idaho News!

    • @shantellwright6424
      @shantellwright6424 8 месяцев назад +18

      Yes it would’ve taken so much longer to figure out where Tylee and JJ had gone, people would’ve continued to believe Lori’s lies. And I think more people would’ve died, possibly Colby and his wife & child, they were already deemed dark he said. I heard one of Chads sons was on the dark list too, and Lori’s niece Melani’s children were probably going to be at risk too. The Woodcocks probably saved many lives.

  • @Darin.Pearson
    @Darin.Pearson 9 месяцев назад +225

    Every objection the defense makes against the powerful and credible statements of Kay Woodcock, only undermines their own case. Kay's testimony is rock solid.

    • @kellyhawk6504
      @kellyhawk6504 9 месяцев назад +19

      This judge constantly overrules his objections. Because, they are lame and/or argumentative. I would love to see a tally of sustained v overruled for that side. Pryor’s demeanor off-putting

    • @JulieMatthews-b8y
      @JulieMatthews-b8y 9 месяцев назад +9

      👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @Southernheathen13
      @Southernheathen13 9 месяцев назад +6

      I normally don’t care about his objections and understand his reasoning but this was too much. This was gross and harassing.

    • @helgagaines3598
      @helgagaines3598 9 месяцев назад +1

      My thoughts as well..but this was all the defense had to interrupt Kay's powerful testimony

    • @gladtobefreeagain7375
      @gladtobefreeagain7375 9 месяцев назад

      The jury heard what Kay said in spite of defense objections. Somebody searched for tropical cothing & malachite wedding rings on Oct 2 before Tammy Daybell's murder & items were charged to Lori's dead husband's credit card. While Kay had access to card, Lori & Charles were photographed wearing the clothes & rings in Hawaii. Prettysure it shows motive. Killing the kids when famiy would have taken them goes to vindictiveness, control & sense of superiority. Killing Tammy benefited Charles. Death sentence I hope.

  • @norffyesquivel3440
    @norffyesquivel3440 9 месяцев назад +186

    Chad and Lori pure evil.

  • @tah6243
    @tah6243 9 месяцев назад +89

    Sorrow is immense. You faithful grandma, how you & husnand suffered, but were faithful

  • @crossedwires2629
    @crossedwires2629 9 месяцев назад +78

    OK, favorite moment, when Kay sneakily gets in there "she's buying wedding stuff on HIS credit card" Go, Kay! You've got this.

  • @4MAGA
    @4MAGA 9 месяцев назад +44

    Dearest Kay and Larry, you both have been in my prayers. Every child deserves to have people like you both in their lives. I will never forget you.

  • @KarmaZeusBoi
    @KarmaZeusBoi 9 месяцев назад +30

    I love the fierceness of this grandma witness

  • @HiroForever
    @HiroForever 9 месяцев назад +41

    I just love JJ’s Grandma. She’s such a sweet, beautiful person.

  • @jewisley
    @jewisley 9 месяцев назад +120

    Kay is wonderful! I’m just so sad she has to go through this over and over!

  • @susannafranklin5391
    @susannafranklin5391 9 месяцев назад +399

    What evil Lori and Chad are! Killing 4 people so they could marry in Hawaii and have no interfefence? This is incredibly eviil!

    • @piperdevi9028
      @piperdevi9028 9 месяцев назад +50

      And they believe they're spiritually superior! So delusional! 🥵

    • @hmm3041
      @hmm3041 9 месяцев назад +30

      True! I thought it was more people. Two kids, Tammy, Charles, her brother, and I thought another one of her ex-husband but I may be wrong. I believe they were not done taking peoples lives. Regardless it’s evil and monstrous to take one’s life. May they all rest in peace.

    • @southernsass2937
      @southernsass2937 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@hmm3041Theres no proof of 2. I believe they were cremated if I remember correctly in the beginning.

    • @DocBree13
      @DocBree13 9 месяцев назад +43

      I still think they killed alex, too, not that I’ll shed any tears for him

    • @nwr7932
      @nwr7932 9 месяцев назад

      They wanted all the money from the dead people! Not even about interference!

  • @nicoleperry6791
    @nicoleperry6791 9 месяцев назад +98

    Its infuriating that Chad is allowed to have a computer during this trial! It allows him to withdrawal, hide behind and not be forced to deal with these horrific charges! What the “H”???

    • @JulieMatthews-b8y
      @JulieMatthews-b8y 9 месяцев назад +10

      Totally agree - so infuriating to see Chad spend his time fiddling on a laptop 😖

    • @tmp1111
      @tmp1111 9 месяцев назад +8

      It most likely does not have internet access. He could be looking at evidence

    • @January.
      @January. 9 месяцев назад +3

      *to withdraw

    • @Gianna646
      @Gianna646 9 месяцев назад +2

      Prior is alone so he probably told the judge he needs help.🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @stacyhernandez7338
      @stacyhernandez7338 9 месяцев назад

      I heard on Annie Elise - 10 to life’s podcast that his laptop doesn’t have WiFi-it appears to be loaded with evidence, spreadsheets etc. The person who is reporting from the courtroom said when he didn’t want to look at someone (like now with Kay testifying) Chad ‘pretends’ to be doing work on the laptop which is laughable because there’s nothing he could actually be doing. So it’s very apparent certain witnesses make him uncomfortable enough that he pretends to work on the laptop.

  • @kristahenderson7867
    @kristahenderson7867 9 месяцев назад +200

    Chad is such a bum his murderer wife had to use the husband she killed credit card to buy him clothes and stuff for their wedding....smh

    • @psfanboy79
      @psfanboy79 9 месяцев назад +10

      I don’t see why, he got a big insurance payout for his wife

    • @astrialindah2773
      @astrialindah2773 9 месяцев назад +8

      Punctuation makes your sentences easier to comprehend...😐

    • @catherineseiler7407
      @catherineseiler7407 9 месяцев назад +19

      @@psfanboy79 after Chad is convicted, he will have to pay the insurance payments back

    • @fezcapone2784
      @fezcapone2784 9 месяцев назад

      @@catherineseiler7407how?

    • @cynthiawilson5066
      @cynthiawilson5066 9 месяцев назад

      Thought the same thing loser

  • @cowgirlup1081
    @cowgirlup1081 9 месяцев назад +121

    My heart goes out to this Grandma she has lost so much
    She is a better woman than I am they would have had to chain me to that stand
    She will be in my prayers 🙏

    • @vickiedutton6829
      @vickiedutton6829 9 месяцев назад +8

      Same here.

    • @mistyize
      @mistyize 9 месяцев назад +4

      No doubt! I'm way too hot-headed of a momma bear for all of that. You know Kay's got to be a momma bear too, but her composure is top notch!

    • @emrainbow
      @emrainbow 9 месяцев назад +3

      Well said

  • @kimbrobst3480
    @kimbrobst3480 9 месяцев назад +56

    Kay and Larry Woodcock are special and awesome awesome people. Where they get the strength to continue on everyday is something of a miracle to me. I wish them peace and love from the Pocono Mountains in Pa.

    • @nadiamurchie1949
      @nadiamurchie1949 9 месяцев назад +5

      agreed from scotland

    • @kellyfitzgerald2035
      @kellyfitzgerald2035 9 месяцев назад +4

      They are beautiful people, and as a grandmother of 5,my heart hurts for them. 💔 Wishing them peace as they try to heal..from your neighboring town in Albrightsville,Pa.

  • @SnailWhales
    @SnailWhales 9 месяцев назад +126

    I really wish Alex Cox was present in the court room for all of this horror.

    • @January.
      @January. 9 месяцев назад

      *courtroom

    • @juneyshu6197
      @juneyshu6197 9 месяцев назад +7

      If he was alive he could tell so much.

    • @mistyize
      @mistyize 9 месяцев назад +14

      I'm totally of the impression they offed him too. It was WAY to convenient that he died when he did. Shakespeare couldn't have written it any better.

    • @January.
      @January. 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mistyize *too convenient

    • @SnailWhales
      @SnailWhales 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@mistyize Oh they totally did. Even if they convinced him to off himself and that he would be exalted for it. 🙄

  • @ruthdianneschoch5583
    @ruthdianneschoch5583 9 месяцев назад +41

    Kay Woodcock is a fabulous witness!

  • @belindavandyk6128
    @belindavandyk6128 9 месяцев назад +98

    WOW AND AS SHE SPEAKS ABT MONEY ..CHAD LOOKS UP FOR THE FIRST TIME....WOW

  • @candicewitzkoske3155
    @candicewitzkoske3155 9 месяцев назад +158

    Remember Lori told people Charles died from a heart attack with several family members with Chad being present!

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox 9 месяцев назад +12

      Lori said there had been no murders at all; they had merely helped their loved ones advance spirituality.
      Me? I'm an atheist 😂

    • @marciayoung8735
      @marciayoung8735 9 месяцев назад +4

      And her daughter was dead with Chad present and at one point his own Mother.. pure Evil both of them.

    • @jendee1260
      @jendee1260 9 месяцев назад

      i lowkey think she was trying to assert innocence.

  • @AileenBartlett-ym4ec
    @AileenBartlett-ym4ec 9 месяцев назад +20

    Well done Kay. Sending love and respect from the UK

  • @ageofadversity
    @ageofadversity 9 месяцев назад +17

    That poor grandmother I can't imagine how she feels.

  • @hatchhouseadventures
    @hatchhouseadventures 9 месяцев назад +51

    I love how validated Heather Daybell is now!! Bet Chad's parents would pay big money if they could go back in time and confront Chad about how his beliefs were off track. Heather didn't even bring up to them how poorly Chad treated Tammy but if they had seen it and said something at least there would have been some familial accountability for him. Now he's accountable to the justice system and people are dead.

    • @ohnoyce
      @ohnoyce 9 месяцев назад +12

      Was thinking same earlier today! It’s all become so much clearer. Heather was spot on from the very beginning! Trust your gut because it doesn’t lie!

  • @wandarudo7221
    @wandarudo7221 9 месяцев назад +138

    Chad should be forced to
    Look at photos of everything everyone he murdered and autopsy

    • @nancyhammond389
      @nancyhammond389 9 месяцев назад +16

      Do you really think it would even phase him?

    • @EffSharp
      @EffSharp 9 месяцев назад +15

      He wouldn’t care. Lori says they’re all happy and busy so…

    • @juneyshu6197
      @juneyshu6197 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@nancyhammond389beat me to it😡 these so called people...

    • @fezcapone2784
      @fezcapone2784 9 месяцев назад +1

      He was all about looking at the pics of those precious children that were found buried in his back yard.

  • @VictoriaPL
    @VictoriaPL 9 месяцев назад +106

    Kay is sharp as a tack. I would be terrified to cross examine Kay. I would tread softly.

    • @s.c.2424
      @s.c.2424 9 месяцев назад +17

      She was ready for this day. She is definitely a bright and intelligent woman.

    • @sadboi9774
      @sadboi9774 8 месяцев назад +1

      Her saying “Men’s Size large” sent me 😂

  • @victoriagrove5344
    @victoriagrove5344 9 месяцев назад +10

    Dear JJ, Tylee, Charles & Tammy: You all matter to the world. There is so much love for you all. Justice is coming for all of you.

  • @BouncePieBasket
    @BouncePieBasket 9 месяцев назад +51

    Poor little JJ he had to fight to survive when he was born...so so cruel.

  • @Ellewatch-y3j
    @Ellewatch-y3j 9 месяцев назад +42

    Chad is a disgusting coward, he doesn’t have the nerve to even look at Kay

  • @sodapop83
    @sodapop83 9 месяцев назад +62

    sending lots of hugs to kay and larry 💗
    greetings from hungary

  • @stephaniels5421
    @stephaniels5421 9 месяцев назад +54

    I don’t feel like it’s on purpose, but I feel like Charles is sometimes the forgotten victim. 💜

    • @jcny11
      @jcny11 8 месяцев назад +4

      His trial is next in Arizona

    • @tdbarton7712
      @tdbarton7712 8 месяцев назад +2

      Charles is not forgotten. Neither is Joe Ryan. Lori will be convicted of Charles' murder too.

    • @moomyung9231
      @moomyung9231 7 месяцев назад +1

      He's been on the backburner because of lack of evidence and the killer being dead already. It's really Joe Ryan who I've suspected was murdered from the first I heard he was also dead, and it seems that only lately that people are starting to think that too.

  • @Bug-Tussle
    @Bug-Tussle 9 месяцев назад +29

    Kay and Larry Woodcock, you've done Charles and JJ proud . I was pumping my arms in the air with your testimony ❤️❤️

    • @lornaowens4673
      @lornaowens4673 11 дней назад

      Tylee and Tammy too... Kay and Larry we are all so thankful to you. Keep safe. ❤️🙏❤️

  • @lorrainelaneres-zh1ut
    @lorrainelaneres-zh1ut 9 месяцев назад +29

    What an amazing awesome lady Kay is🙌❤️🙌 prior tried to intimidate Kay by using his condescending tone but it did not work! She answered with ultimate confidence 🙌❤️🙌go Kay! You did Charles and JJ and Tylee proud and I loved how you pointed out the search for the wedding rings and dress wear was before “Tammy’s murder” no passing but “ MURDER” 💔💔💔

  • @jlrc3991
    @jlrc3991 9 месяцев назад +85

    Bless Kay & Larry....my heart aches so deeply for both of them. How awful 🥺

  • @marie-joseepaulzak1936
    @marie-joseepaulzak1936 9 месяцев назад +12

    Poor grandparents, that is heartbreaking.

  • @tmp1111
    @tmp1111 9 месяцев назад +29

    Excellent job! She is unshaken ❣️

  • @Prancer0210
    @Prancer0210 9 месяцев назад +26

    This Grandmother; Kay, is incredible with remembering dates and numbers. Very awesome witness. Chad won't even look at her.

  • @gaylavogel4335
    @gaylavogel4335 9 месяцев назад +57

    Such a shame !!! Tylee was nearly an adult and could have made it without Lori, and Kay amd Larry would have taken JJ. Of course we know now that Lori wanted their money and collected it fraudulently. Chad is disgusting.!These two selfish monsters are surrounded by deaths orchestrated at their orders. MAY JUSTICE be served

    • @Bunnyleedoo
      @Bunnyleedoo 9 месяцев назад +4

      I have often thought the same thing- that Tylee was so close to adulthood!! I wish every time I think of it that she escaped and JJ also

    • @ShelleySorenson
      @ShelleySorenson 9 месяцев назад +8

      ​@Bunnyleedoo They killed Tylee for just over a year of Social Security money. So sad that all you mean to your mother is a year's worth of Social Security money.

    • @adrienneleary113
      @adrienneleary113 8 месяцев назад

      I think they killed Tylee for knowing too much. She was their the morning Charles was shot.

  • @staceygabs
    @staceygabs 9 месяцев назад +66

    All the questions the defense is asking does not matter. The kids are dead and their spouses are dead.

    • @Jessica-wo6px
      @Jessica-wo6px 9 месяцев назад +3

      Agree 💯percent 👌👍🤗🤗

  • @beckiehickman1312
    @beckiehickman1312 9 месяцев назад +32

    Chad shows his guilt by not even looking at Kay. The lives they stole . May justice be served for these families and all whom involved.

    • @katarzynaheinrich4304
      @katarzynaheinrich4304 9 месяцев назад

      If Chad was innocent, and the murder of the children was Loris doing he would have been horrified and appalled, instead he made sure Lori had commissary money in jail. Guilty.

  • @shereesetz6690
    @shereesetz6690 9 месяцев назад +32

    Its so hard (heartbreaking) to hear Kay on the stand today, sigh. 💔

  • @SarahThompson-y9y
    @SarahThompson-y9y 8 месяцев назад +5

    Grandma is amazing, so strong, remembering dates during such trauma. Sending you love and light ❤

  • @haleyrobb5198
    @haleyrobb5198 9 месяцев назад +24

    Kay did a fabulous job on the stand. I absolutely love how she kept saying "his murder" speaking of Charles. Then, "Brandon's attempted murder"

  • @lyndajamrozik4786
    @lyndajamrozik4786 9 месяцев назад +27

    Lori didn’t want the kids - but Kay did .
    She could have given her custody

  • @optitom9033
    @optitom9033 8 месяцев назад +8

    My heart goes out to that wonderful grandmother and grandfather for their loss

  • @kelllefae3026
    @kelllefae3026 9 месяцев назад +76

    Its spiteful evil to of killed anyone , but jj could of been easily offloaded without killing him ... pure spite made her keep him n kill him . Poor grandparents.

    • @MadgeGreen
      @MadgeGreen 9 месяцев назад +6

      Yes, I agree.

    • @tanyachristensen5330
      @tanyachristensen5330 9 месяцев назад +21

      They wanted the $ they got for taking care of him. Greedy disgusting couple imo

    • @ShelleySorenson
      @ShelleySorenson 9 месяцев назад +14

      Lori got Social Security for JJ. She didn't want to give that up.

    • @bethnorrod5942
      @bethnorrod5942 9 месяцев назад +8

      It was all about the money.

    • @January.
      @January. 9 месяцев назад +2

      *It's spiteful and evil to have *could have been easily

  • @griceltorres7701
    @griceltorres7701 9 месяцев назад +30

    I love Kay abd Larry! They are fighters!

  • @nickinurse6433
    @nickinurse6433 9 месяцев назад +32

    Kate is the hero of this story. If the Arizona Police had arrested Chad and Lori after they killed Charles the children would still be alive and so would Tammy. But since they dropped the ball Kate stepped up.

    • @elizabetht458
      @elizabetht458 9 месяцев назад +2

      Kay 😊

    • @JulieMatthews-b8y
      @JulieMatthews-b8y 9 месяцев назад +6

      Very true. Kay you are a hero.

    • @lindseystein9676
      @lindseystein9676 8 месяцев назад

      If the Arizona police did a proper, actual investigation after Charles repeatedly asked them for help about Lori having religious mania/delusions, no one would have died. And again, had they properly investigated after Alex killed Charles, far less people would have died.

  • @tamiewelu1097
    @tamiewelu1097 9 месяцев назад +233

    Why won’t Chad look at Kay ???? What a puke 🤢🤢🤢

    • @kellyhawk6504
      @kellyhawk6504 9 месяцев назад +31

      He’s mad because they didn’t get JJ’s insurance money

    • @amatteo8795
      @amatteo8795 9 месяцев назад +36

      Bc he is a coward

    • @EaglesEagles-ip9nm
      @EaglesEagles-ip9nm 9 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@amatteo8795
      Bingo!

    • @Freetheinnocent-judge
      @Freetheinnocent-judge 9 месяцев назад +10

      At least he’s in court unlike Adam Montgomery 😡😡😡😡 the difference is Chad knows he is not going home!!!! But still plead not guilty

    • @bethnorrod5942
      @bethnorrod5942 9 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@Freetheinnocent-judgeit infuriated me that Adam wasn't at trial, but he does have to attend his sentencing. He will have to hear the victim statements. He probably won't care, but at least Harmonys loved ones have the opportunity to say what they want to him. Also, Lori has chosen not to be present for Charles murder trial in AZ.

  • @HLB313
    @HLB313 9 месяцев назад +185

    She could’ve just left Charles. Absolute psychopath.

    • @bethnorrod5942
      @bethnorrod5942 9 месяцев назад +29

      It was all about money. She thought she would get his life insurance. JJ received benefits for having a deceased father and Lori got benefits for being JJs only surviving parent. She got money every month and didn't have to deal with Charles asking so many questions about her life. It also bought her some time for JJs murder. Without Charles wanting his visitation rights, she could move to Hawaii and keep Kay and Larry of her back for a while. I've always wondered how long Lori thought Kay and Larry would go without demanding to see JJ.

    • @catherineseiler7407
      @catherineseiler7407 9 месяцев назад +16

      She wanted money, that’s why she wouldn’t let JJ go

    • @lorrainelaneres-zh1ut
      @lorrainelaneres-zh1ut 9 месяцев назад +15

      It was all about her getting Charles million dollar life insurance 😢

    • @marciayoung8735
      @marciayoung8735 9 месяцев назад

      She wanted his money and insurance, I'm willing to bet anything that it's the only reason she went to Texas

    • @beachydee854
      @beachydee854 9 месяцев назад +6

      she could have, but she wanted the money.

  • @ddt67
    @ddt67 9 месяцев назад +81

    I don’t understand why Chad has a laptop? Also, I love how Kay reminds everyone over and over Charles was murdered, it needs to be said loud and clear. How does Prior sleep at night. I would work 5 jobs over defending that evil human.

    • @tmp1111
      @tmp1111 9 месяцев назад +5

      I dont know that he is permitted internet access in a courtroom. Most courts dont even allow phones. I doubt very much he is scrolling the internet

    • @justmeinhere5905
      @justmeinhere5905 9 месяцев назад +2

      Pryor saw dollar signs as well, now he has this large piece of property.

    • @tmp1111
      @tmp1111 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@justmeinhere5905 not really. He tried to dump this case & Chad and the judge would not allow it. The house is the only asset Chad has so he gave it to him for legal fees. The property value is pretty equal to what attorney fees would be in a criminal/murder case such as this one.
      Its not exactly a high end home. And he will have a lot of trouble selling it considering 2 dead bodies were buried on the property.

    • @papabear2515
      @papabear2515 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@tmp1111the laptop holds court paperwork and his own notes - no internet access

    • @denisekinzle1672
      @denisekinzle1672 9 месяцев назад +3

      I've never seen a defendant have a lap top.He needs to be listening to her but he's too much of a coward.

  • @Mammaj1963
    @Mammaj1963 9 месяцев назад +42

    What a memory on Kay, she’s amazing

  • @bobbicatt
    @bobbicatt 8 месяцев назад +4

    Kay and Larry are champions in advocating for these children. These are two amazing people and the world mourns with them 💔💔💔

  • @lizdk1999
    @lizdk1999 9 месяцев назад +70

    I am amazed about how many times these people move to other places. I’ve only moved 3 times and it was always such a big deal to pack up, terminate services & setup new house.

    • @amyfay5791
      @amyfay5791 9 месяцев назад +3

      Before I was in grade 2 I had lived in at least 6 different cities but it might be as many as 7. After that the city didn’t change but I remember at least 4 different places until I moved out at 14.
      Idk why. My parents were losers for sure.

    • @b.valentine5283
      @b.valentine5283 9 месяцев назад +4

      We've had to move a lot for my husband's career, and luckily it was always paid for by the companies hiring him, but ive seen the receipts and you'd have to have a TON of money to do this the way they did. What a waste of money!

    • @s.c.2424
      @s.c.2424 9 месяцев назад +7

      Agreed. We're a military family that moves typically every 3 yrs. Just did the most recent move to Hawaii from Texas and man these things add up and it's stressful. Their behvaior and constant moves are so bizarre to me. Who WANTS to do that? That's draning.

    • @TheBeautifulandTheDamned
      @TheBeautifulandTheDamned 9 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah it’s called bad parenting

    • @ettajfan5882
      @ettajfan5882 9 месяцев назад +5

      I've lived in 11 states just because I wanted to. A person learns a lot from being around different folks.

  • @BMarie774
    @BMarie774 9 месяцев назад +9

    I have I infinite love for Larry and Kay. My heart just goes out to them so much. The celebration of life was beautiful and such a wonderful tribute to Tylee and JJ.

  • @ruthfhunt2613
    @ruthfhunt2613 9 месяцев назад +36

    Size large - love that she mentioned that.

  • @elk82
    @elk82 9 месяцев назад +14

    If I was on the jury I would be disgusted by Chad and his attorneys behavior. Completely disengaged, have better things to do than listen to this. So rude and disrespectful 😢

  • @Inthedarrk
    @Inthedarrk 9 месяцев назад +12

    This poor lady :( She was so strong.

  • @mirandachristina3412
    @mirandachristina3412 9 месяцев назад +5

    Thank You Kay and the Woodcocks❤🙏

  • @nadiamurchie1949
    @nadiamurchie1949 9 месяцев назад +40

    charles changing beneficiary to his sister knowing the danger and police not taking him seriously.. ..then lori and chad phoning to claim it. ooft...maybe hoping if he didnt make it , if anything did happen to him the money would be used for jj and the rest of the kids and extended family, instead of chad and lori milking it. he safeguarded everyone financially before he was taken.

    • @BostonEsq
      @BostonEsq 5 месяцев назад

      It is not the job of the police to protect citizens from harm.

  • @sunshyn42
    @sunshyn42 9 месяцев назад +73

    there must be something fascinating on the desk in front of chad that he can’t look up at the pic of JJ

    • @JulieMatthews-b8y
      @JulieMatthews-b8y 9 месяцев назад

      Coward

    • @denisekinzle1672
      @denisekinzle1672 9 месяцев назад +8

      He's a Coward!!

    • @sunshyn42
      @sunshyn42 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@denisekinzle1672 don’t know if i’ve ever seen a bigger coward. he’s somehow worse than lori because, as disgusting as she is, at least she sticks to her guns and (kinda) accepted her fate, whereas chad would do or say anything, betray anyone, to slink away from the consequences of his actions

    • @cynthiawilson5066
      @cynthiawilson5066 9 месяцев назад +2

      Guilt

    • @hedykarim3614
      @hedykarim3614 9 месяцев назад +3

      He’s a coward that’s why

  • @suzymoroka297
    @suzymoroka297 9 месяцев назад +91

    Just imagine Lori using Charles’s credit card to buy her wedding rings, dress and linen suit for their beach wedding? This woman? 🤯🤯

    • @carolyndee4565
      @carolyndee4565 9 месяцев назад +11

      I would not call Lori a woman. Other names come to mind

    • @joannemurdock7899
      @joannemurdock7899 9 месяцев назад +5

      And the potato head yuk both so evil

    • @jendee1260
      @jendee1260 9 месяцев назад +7

      and wearing those things when her kids were buried and the police were serving her in hawai’i. disgusting.

    • @juneyshu6197
      @juneyshu6197 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@carolyndee4565take off wo, add de.

  • @juneyshu6197
    @juneyshu6197 9 месяцев назад +7

    Shes so clear and aware❤😥 Bless her heart.🙏

  • @ashlitommasi5658
    @ashlitommasi5658 9 месяцев назад +88

    I believe part of the reason Lori killed jj was to get back at Kay about the $$

    • @ashlitommasi5658
      @ashlitommasi5658 9 месяцев назад +19

      …. That and the fact that Lori is demonic

    • @victoriaryanlpcpc8075
      @victoriaryanlpcpc8075 9 месяцев назад +11

      DEFINITELY!!!

    • @pretzeltime3900
      @pretzeltime3900 9 месяцев назад

      Agree 100%. She is an evil woman and had only self-interest goals. Lori had no regard for her own biological children either.

    • @amylamb3893
      @amylamb3893 9 месяцев назад +2

      I didn't think of that.

    • @TRACE317
      @TRACE317 8 месяцев назад +1

      Agree. It enraged Lori. Since Kay got what Lori loved the most, Lori took what Kay & Larry loved the most. Tylee partook/saw Charles' redrum, and had to be silenced. Evil POS..Lori, Chad,Alex. All their buddies should also beg for mercy

  • @dsn385
    @dsn385 9 месяцев назад +4

    Such a kind women. I am so impressed with her memory for dates and circumstances. 👍🌺🌺💖💖

  • @lindabay1491
    @lindabay1491 9 месяцев назад +33

    Poor Tammy, JJ , and Tylie had pricetags on their lives. Lori and Chad are despicable!

  • @Krystal_Kleer
    @Krystal_Kleer 9 месяцев назад +30

    I love the Woodcocks. There's a special place in heaven for these amazing people.

  • @SerenDipity64711
    @SerenDipity64711 9 месяцев назад +6

    I am zooming in on Chad while Kay is speaking, and notice that Chad keeps his eyes fixed on his laptop screen, inanely fiddles with things on the desk, leans in to whisper to Mr. Prior, and not once looks up or shows an iota of guilt or remorse for what he is hearing or has been a part of. What a despicable person he is.

  • @ralphmajor1947
    @ralphmajor1947 9 месяцев назад +151

    Lori saw dollar signs by adopting JJ 😢❤!

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 9 месяцев назад +13

      He was a 10 month old baby. No one knew he was autistic yet.

    • @astrialindah2773
      @astrialindah2773 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@kateashby3066they knew he was autistic where are you coming up with your nonsense?

    • @kristenbradley6958
      @kristenbradley6958 9 месяцев назад +19

      Or an excuse to get to be a stay at home mom. We know she doesn’t like to work!!

    • @amyfay5791
      @amyfay5791 9 месяцев назад

      She would collect something from government no? Just for having a child? Idk how it works in the states

    • @b.valentine5283
      @b.valentine5283 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@kristenbradley6958 Being a stay at home mom is a lot of work. It's even more work than when I was in the military. I think she did it because she knew she could get money out of him. They didn't know that he was autistic yet, but he was born addicted to drugs, she knew that he would surely have some disabilities she could use to fill for SS benefits.

  • @gaylavogel4335
    @gaylavogel4335 9 месяцев назад +34

    Chad is such a goober . And of course I’m annoyed that his “kids” think he’s innocent.

  • @crunchy3756
    @crunchy3756 8 месяцев назад

    Kay always leaves me in awe and tears. Such a well spoken, loving and intelligent lady. Everyone would want a grandma like her. Wish peace and love for her ❤

  • @MarazMuzik
    @MarazMuzik 9 месяцев назад +29

    This poor woman lost her brother and 2 grandchildren. How does she keep it together?😢

    • @elan007
      @elan007 8 месяцев назад

      Tylee was not her grandchild.

    • @Kizzabell
      @Kizzabell 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@elan007she was her step niece I think?

    • @BostonEsq
      @BostonEsq 5 месяцев назад

      ​​@@KizzabellTylee was not related to Kay

  • @belindavandyk6128
    @belindavandyk6128 9 месяцев назад +108

    CHAD AVOIDING HER.... PROBABLY BLAMING HER FOR ALL

    • @DeeLite220
      @DeeLite220 9 месяцев назад +14

      I think he’s scared of her!

    • @AnnA-tu3ig
      @AnnA-tu3ig 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@DeeLite220 he should be!

    • @Leesaloves
      @Leesaloves 9 месяцев назад +7

      Kay and Heather are wonderful, smart and sweet. They thoroughly out Chad.

    • @ShelleySorenson
      @ShelleySorenson 9 месяцев назад +15

      Kay and Larry hired a detective to find JJ. The detectives were bewildered as people started dropping dead.

    • @Karenanne247
      @Karenanne247 9 месяцев назад +4

      Kaye makes him nervous. Chad knows that Kaye knows 👀

  • @karenmorente7589
    @karenmorente7589 9 месяцев назад +34

    Kay and Larry you will see JJ again honey in Heaven. He suffers no more and is still pure and innocent.

    • @carolyndee4565
      @carolyndee4565 9 месяцев назад +2

      🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🌷🌷🌷

  • @user-di8hm2jl2u
    @user-di8hm2jl2u 9 месяцев назад +9

    None of us will never really know what happened to poor JJ and Tylee. Lori will never talk, Alex is dead, and Chad will lie no matter what.

  • @melodieshimon
    @melodieshimon 9 месяцев назад +9

    Sending lots of ❤ and 🙏 To Kay & Larry woodcocks

  • @LegalAmerican4
    @LegalAmerican4 9 месяцев назад +27

    Doesn't Chad realize he was just husband no. 5 and nothing more? She would've moved on from him after 2 or 3 years

    • @jendee1260
      @jendee1260 9 месяцев назад

      i agree. he would of been next. imagine the horror for her when alex died.

    • @goatgirl5968
      @goatgirl5968 8 месяцев назад +3

      He didn't have a job so she would have had to get a life insurance policy on him ASAP.

  • @denisekinzle1672
    @denisekinzle1672 9 месяцев назад +13

    This would kill me! My grandaughter is my life! Bless you Kay!

  • @Parlour100
    @Parlour100 9 месяцев назад +32

    It's so funny that Chad and his lawyer are constantly throwing Lori under the bus. There's no honour with these people, at all. I find it hilarious.

    • @JulieMatthews-b8y
      @JulieMatthews-b8y 9 месяцев назад +5

      I find it outrageous.

    • @Wh3nth3wick3drul3
      @Wh3nth3wick3drul3 8 месяцев назад

      It's not funny at all, he committed the crimes and killed her kids! Of course, males always off the female's kids!

    • @elan007
      @elan007 8 месяцев назад +1

      Would love to have seen Lori's face when she finds this out.

  • @EllieWright-l1u
    @EllieWright-l1u 9 месяцев назад +23

    so sorry this happened to you Larry and Kay.

  • @amatteo8795
    @amatteo8795 9 месяцев назад +30

    Coward Daybell did NOT look at Kay Woodcock at all! Guilty much

  • @starsrgood
    @starsrgood 9 месяцев назад +18

    I have admired and respected Kay snd her husband Larry since we first learned of JJ missing. I continue to admire them. I hope their actions of asking for a welfare check on JJ has proven to all of us to do similar if we feel anything is wrong.

  • @PellyjellyMom
    @PellyjellyMom 9 месяцев назад +38

    Is Chad smiling or smirking? It looks like it. Chad and Prior’s whole reactions have changed. Whispering like two school girls. Is a grieving Grandmother funny to them?

  • @MichelleFields-y3r
    @MichelleFields-y3r 9 месяцев назад +19

    If not for Kay, lori and chad would still be dancing on the beach😢

  • @kellyhawk6504
    @kellyhawk6504 9 месяцев назад +38

    The prosecution staff is so much more polished and professional than the defense attorney.

    • @jendee1260
      @jendee1260 9 месяцев назад +2

      right?!
      he has no idea how to start his presentations, forgets to get his laptop prepared, constantly thanks the witnesses for reading around his mess of rhetoric because he has no idea how to properly structure a sentence.
      is he a paid attorney, or a public defender?

    • @katarzynaheinrich4304
      @katarzynaheinrich4304 9 месяцев назад +1

      Prior is a private attorney, Chad gave him his house as payment, Chad is now broke. Prior strategy was to delay the trial as much as he could. Then Prior wanted to get off the case just weeks before trial because there is no more money, the judge refused to let him go because it would have caused a year+ delay.

  • @crystalinabacteria3430
    @crystalinabacteria3430 9 месяцев назад +13

    I know this may sound dense. I knew JJ was her biological grandchild but it only really hit me right now listening to Kay speaking of JJs young life as I hadnt heard the whole back story. It breaks my heart to hear how he was loved so much until Lori changed. I really cant imagine how how Kay feels & she is so strong💔💔💔sending so many hugs for Kay & Larry ♥️🙏

  • @Zeldaantibes
    @Zeldaantibes 9 месяцев назад +35

    Kay is one smart lady

  • @AbbaLovesUs
    @AbbaLovesUs 9 месяцев назад +19

    The children are so precious. ❤

  • @OneLaw214
    @OneLaw214 9 месяцев назад +7

    The evil-minded Chad sitting there emotionally detached from Tammy, Charles, Alex, and two innocent children is a sign of a cold-blooded killer with an evil mind and stoney heart.

  • @VictoriaLynn59
    @VictoriaLynn59 9 месяцев назад +83

    There's NOWAY in this world i would go so long not speaking to my grands. So many red flags ignored. Arizona law enforcement failed Charles had they paid attention and listened he and JJ may still be alive. IMO

    • @dorothyd7929
      @dorothyd7929 9 месяцев назад +11

      I couldn't agree more!!!!!

    • @ashlitommasi5658
      @ashlitommasi5658 9 месяцев назад +8

      I don’t believe it was by choice

    • @kawehionalani
      @kawehionalani 9 месяцев назад +8

      Indeed! They should be held accountable for INACTION thus causing 3 unnecessary deaths.

    • @papabear2515
      @papabear2515 9 месяцев назад +8

      Please don’t blame victims. Don’t add to their terrible suffering

    • @January.
      @January. 9 месяцев назад +2

      *NO WAY