I've had plenty of objects that I was fond off. My favourite lighter that had been to many raves, for example. Nothing to do with the supernatural. Just something that brought back memories.
It would've been great to mention million dollar paintings. What if a Da Vinci painting had been duplicated, then the original destroyed, would that duplicate be considered worth the same as the original?
😊 *He speaks truth! When I was just a wee tot, I had seen my parents record a movie off of cable TV and write the name of the movie on the side of the VHS tape with a permanent marker. One day, I wanted to see the movie Cinderella but my mother said we didn't own that movie, so I ran and brought her a blank VHS tape and a permanent marker so she could write in 'Cinderella' so that I could watch it. Lol* 😂
Currently, quantum physics tells us that we still struggle with what reality is. I suggest you watch Dr James Tour. Among dozens of other accumplishments, Tour holds 360 odd parents, is a world renown bio chemist. His team builds nano machines which rotate at 3 million revs and you can place 50,000 on a human hair. His lecture of 2019 The Mystery of the Origins of Life (the 58 min RUclips is best) is well worth an hour of anyone's time.
A few things, for people who think widespread supernatural belief = proof of the supernatural: 1. if he had lied and said a different cardigan belonged to Fred West, he would have got the exact same reaction. 2. there is no credible evidence of life after death and the concept of a soul is scientifically dead. 3. yes, the way we treat the Ship of Theseus shows that we treat objects essentially, and yes, we develop emotional connections to objects. That says a lot about us but nothing about the objects themselves.
I only disagree with number 2. There is research about deathbed phenomena and NDEs that, though not conclusive, they seem to open a path towards some kind of after-life (consciousness isn't necessarily a product of the brain, I can tell you that we have no clue about it). And there's research on phenomena that resembles reincarnation (though it may be something else). The thing is, there are some things going on that may show us something we don't know about the universe yet. And they don't have to be "supernatural", just something natural that we didn't know of!
And that ending WASN'T dark? Not only did I hear examples that could also be considered marketing or post traumatic stress disorder, but I heard several slips into truly amateur bias.
When I was a child, I attributed magical powers to a great many objects around me, especially things at my Grandmother's house. Nobody told me they were magic. BUT I was carefully and thoroughly indoctrinated in specific religious beliefs...there's no way I'd have come up with United Baptist or United Methodist beliefs on my own! Essentialism, huh? I was doubting what he was saying but then I thought about my Humpty. I still have it and I'm 64. Yeah, I guess I have endowed it with some kind of special powers. Huh. Thanks. Fascinating!
OK haven't seen the video. Start of the video: I do not believe "super" added to "natural" makes anything more than a semantic distinction without a difference. We'll see if this changes. (Update) OK yeah I still don't believe in the "Super" natural. But I understand the video. And he's right. Given sufficient stimulus I will act as if I do believe in essentialism.
This was wonderfully and masterfully presented! Why have more people not seen this video? Thanks WIRED and Bruce.
Perhaps because believers don't need to see it and skeptics won't. :-)
10:54 - I still think there was flatulence
I've had plenty of objects that I was fond off. My favourite lighter that had been to many raves, for example. Nothing to do with the supernatural. Just something that brought back memories.
It would've been great to mention million dollar paintings. What if a Da Vinci painting had been duplicated, then the original destroyed, would that duplicate be considered worth the same as the original?
I thought the same!
😊 *He speaks truth! When I was just a wee tot, I had seen my parents record a movie off of cable TV and write the name of the movie on the side of the VHS tape with a permanent marker. One day, I wanted to see the movie Cinderella but my mother said we didn't own that movie, so I ran and brought her a blank VHS tape and a permanent marker so she could write in 'Cinderella' so that I could watch it. Lol* 😂
Wouldn't that be cool if the film had appeared on the tape?
Transfering your consciousness into a new machine, robot etc will also have problems.
Currently, quantum physics tells us that we still struggle with what reality is.
I suggest you watch Dr James Tour. Among dozens of other accumplishments, Tour holds 360 odd parents, is a world renown bio chemist.
His team builds nano machines which rotate at 3 million revs and you can place 50,000 on a human hair.
His lecture of 2019 The Mystery of the Origins of Life (the 58 min RUclips is best) is well worth an hour of anyone's time.
He should let go of the parents, whether or not they are “odd.”
A few things, for people who think widespread supernatural belief = proof of the supernatural:
1. if he had lied and said a different cardigan belonged to Fred West, he would have got the exact same reaction.
2. there is no credible evidence of life after death and the concept of a soul is scientifically dead.
3. yes, the way we treat the Ship of Theseus shows that we treat objects essentially, and yes, we develop emotional connections to objects. That says a lot about us but nothing about the objects themselves.
I only disagree with number 2. There is research about deathbed phenomena and NDEs that, though not conclusive, they seem to open a path towards some kind of after-life (consciousness isn't necessarily a product of the brain, I can tell you that we have no clue about it). And there's research on phenomena that resembles reincarnation (though it may be something else). The thing is, there are some things going on that may show us something we don't know about the universe yet. And they don't have to be "supernatural", just something natural that we didn't know of!
@Vlasko60 nope
And that ending WASN'T dark? Not only did I hear examples that could also be considered marketing or post traumatic stress disorder, but I heard several slips into truly amateur bias.
All human societies, even on remote islands, have religious/supernatural beliefs of some sort.
Excellent lecture
Chris De Burgh has some interesting hobbies.
Great talk 😏
Have read Supersense and Self Illusion both excellent. Keep up the good work Bruce
When I was a child, I attributed magical powers to a great many objects around me, especially things at my Grandmother's house. Nobody told me they were magic. BUT I was carefully and thoroughly indoctrinated in specific religious beliefs...there's no way I'd have come up with United Baptist or United Methodist beliefs on my own!
Essentialism, huh? I was doubting what he was saying but then I thought about my Humpty. I still have it and I'm 64. Yeah, I guess I have endowed it with some kind of special powers. Huh. Thanks. Fascinating!
OK haven't seen the video.
Start of the video: I do not believe "super" added to "natural" makes anything more than a semantic distinction without a difference.
We'll see if this changes.
(Update)
OK yeah I still don't believe in the "Super" natural. But I understand the video. And he's right. Given sufficient stimulus I will act as if I do believe in essentialism.
The self illusion is great. More please, Bruce!
I see that profile picture everywhere. What is it?
@@letstalk-misc3575 Le fils de l'homme - René Magritte
Great talk. Even so, I know I'm not just matter.
I'm thinking Rupert Sheldrake is not a fan of this video, hahaha.
I know he wouldn't.
Lol
Teleportation will have problems 😂
SHONE
Fetish objects?