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OK fk it i go play paladins again, just cause of you its my 4th time comming back 2 paladins, playing a bit of laggy evie love it until i ragequitt these games chause they have a perfect dredge spam comp
Og player skins :^) That set was a limited time offer a while back, actually one of the rarest skins in game, until they ruin it as they did most others, lol. (Hope not)
@@Raventric Yeah, I was around when that was available, I just completely forgot that skin existed! I don't think I've ever used it, not even with a skin booster!
I was also around when it first came out. Honestly the skins back then were much better. Raeve to this day is my favorite skin in all of hero shooters. I even made a real life model of it for an art project for school. Sad to see the game like this but ehh it’s still fun
The reality is Paladins was built all wrong by the alpha/beta devs and this may have caused issues nearly unsolvable without a complete rework of the game's code. I know Evil Mojo make mistakes from time to time but people on our community(on every community) seems to think that game studios has infinite resources and workers(programmers, to be more specifical) to fix all problems in short term, I truly believe evil mojo devs have a lot of love for this game and some prople who has contact with them has confirmed this to me a lot. I also believe the biggest issue in the whole Paladins experience rn are the the servers not the bugs, in fact I've suffered a lot more from server problems than bugs till this date(I've played for over 1,5 year). Beyond that, I think the one thing which keeps me positive about paladins future is that the game still makes money and the devs are looking forward to put new stuff for the game, like crossovers, which they confirmed they want to do more. A great video, for a great game. :)
I would probably enjoy the buggy mess, if I could actually play it without constantly getting dropped due to bad connections with the server, and latency/rubberbanding so bad I feel like I'm picking Evie every game
I mean, Hi Rez servers became a meme, have you ever player Smite? Or any other Hi Rez game? There will be patches where the servers just seem to melt down.
Yeah, but they have people to create another copy paste hero for hamsters. Like, why? Why we need another Seris or Jenos? For illusion of content? It's really be better if they are just delay another new season hero and fix bugs or make an actual balance patch.
I always expect them to grow but nope they just still use the same client that even just the main menu is so wonky and very laggy despite of running in lowest resolution.. They did the same with smite too
I really love this game, I really do. I'm glad to see the community and people like you are still being positive despite the poor management of the game over the years. I'm definitely going to check out your discord server to look for more people to play with.
@@Anthonyist I see. Casual is what I was looking for. Tried totally accurate battlegrounds, even tho the game mechanics were SUPER fun to play, the matchmaking always had really high level guys who would murder on spot within a millisecond
I have to admit, doing what Overwatch is doing might be the best for Paladins here. Make a Paladins 2 with a better code to begin with, make skins/mounts/icons etc. carry over. With a new engine they can fix and improve a lot, and while they are at it, they can also upgrade visuals of characters and skins and work on their balancing. Just like Overwatch but bigger, since they have to do more. With a good store, better servers, maybe Battlepasses back and good new visuals, they'd have tons of players that would love to play and stay there for a long time. And I am not talking overwatch graphics or better, I just mean, polished up a bit with a few of the old character models a bit more modern and on par with new ones.
Yeah but that'll cost millions of Dollars to develop and from History I don't think Hi-Rez are ever gonna invest that much, I mean Realm Royale is still in Beta till this day, I seriously wish some massive company boys Hi-Rez , I love their games but hate their Decision making
@@Fr3d_ I do know that money would be a big problem, but if they just let their games bleed out, they will loose even more I think. Its like Raven said, they just release new games, but never care enough for one to actually be "very very good" instead of just "okey but fun" if you know what I mean
I have been playing Paladins for more than 3 years, and it is my favorite hero shooter game! But with time there are so many server and bug issues and new changes that I cannot get used to. 1. The servers lagging or the match completely freezes and I have to wait to rejoin the game. And the Paladin bugs that can never go away. 2. The old battlepass vs. The new event pass. The new event passes suck! Many challenges are impossible to complete even against bots and there is no way to earn all of the pass rewards if you don't complete all of the challenges trials in the list. In the old BP system all you would lose out on is an earnable title if you don't complete every challenge. And not including ALL the event skins in the pass that you are paying for?? What gives? Why should I have to buy an extra chest for the CHANCE to earn one of the new event skins vs. the old passes where I would earn all the new pass skins PLUS recolors!!! The only new change I like in the event is the map where the trial challenges are held and seeing all of the locations of the realm in one place. It adds to the worldbuilding of the game. Bring back the old Battlepass system or they will lose more players! 3. Bring back top play bring back top play bring back top play! 4. More skins for "less popular" characters. New champs coming and getting new skins and yet Atlas for example only has ONE non common skin! And Willo hasn't had a new skin in years! More love for every champ. And when it breaks, fix the bounty store so that I can actually use my bounty store skins! I don't want this game to die but it could if Hi Rez doesn't fix their game.
I'm a new player and I really like paladins but your second point it right on the spot! I've had multiple games where my enemies are grand masters or just super experienced players compared to my teammates. We either have no chance of winning or we have no chance of losing, there's barely any game that seems balanced matchmaking wise but when there is I really do enjoy the game
Funny thing is, matchmaking has always been pretty much this bad. I still remember a game where I played around 1pm for Western Europeans and I was silver back then. I literally had a game with only master's excluding me. That was just... A different experience. And this was back when the borders showed your actual rank too which made it a lot more hilarious imo.
Honestly my main idea for why paladins is losing players is lack of advertising. I have never seen an ad for the game, not on RUclips, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Google, nowhere, yet I see a buncha ads for Rogue Company. Oh and also, I think this game REALLY needs an Operation Health like what Ubisoft did to Siege: forgo doing a big content update and instead fix core issues with the game.
Paladins is just that game that hit the perfect sweet spot and there is a good chance there will never ever be a game like it again, that would at least be another reason for me to just stay and enjoy it for what it is. I do honestly believe tho that the future is bright and the coming years will be big, just gotta hope no suboptimal decisions will be taken anymore, not sure how another OB64 like event will go over o3o
Honestly, I whole heartedly agree with your opinions in this video. I play the game to have fun. Just recently I was playing a game of Onslaught and both of our teams just went passive to each other and started messing around. Games like that really make me appreciate the playerbase, even though some are really sweaty and toxic. While yes, sometimes bugs get in the way of the game, but look at Skyrim. Skyrim isn't the most polished and bug free game out there, but yet so many people still love and play the game.
I agree with most things, well like everything except the community, because I met more toxic, than kind people there, but finally someone pointed out the problems Paladins has. For me, server lag is still the main problem, why I stopped playing, cuz I don't have it just from time to time, but literally every match, every 2 minutes atleast and most jumps don't even work the whole match... And this thing is just unacceptable for a 'competitive' game, even if you play just casuals. I would actually get over all those problems and stuff, if the game atleast worked like before and I think now is the worst state of Paladins, even worse than previous years. It's also funny they're at the lowest players count, when they're trying to add too much stuff. They're just killing their game themselves with all this, instead of doing that one thing players wants, and that's a smooth gameplay without any fps drops and server lags, like it used to be maybe 4 or 3 years ago. I just see Paladins going downhill and don't see any future for it, it's gonna be worse and worse, and that's why I also have no motivation to continue playing it... :/
The only way too keep it at it's lifeline is to have it's own Steam's COMMUNITY WORKSHOP. I'd love to make maps/mods for this game that has been with me for 4 years(Though they are hiring right now, why would I want to work with Hi-Rez lmao)
I played ow pretty consistently for about 2 years. I eventually stopped playing it, I don't really remember why. But I've picked up this game out of a recommendation of a friend and I've been having a blast! Personally I like the champion's kits in this game more than overwatch! There are a lot of really interesting characters. I feel like every character has a really solid kit for different scenarios. Everyone I've played feels really "complete" I guess you could say. I've been playing grover and ash. I want to get into bomb king, mal'damba and vora! Just bought both of them. It seems like the match making isn't sure where to put me yet, it definitely thinks I'm worse than I actually am. I hope it figures it out soon I'm tired of playing with people who play siege like it's a free for all in call of duty. But overall for a free to play game I've been loving it! I hope it doesn't get ruined for me
I’ve waited 3 years for another Pip skin, but I still continue to have a great time with the game and I usually have a blast when I’m playing it with my friends. I think that HiRez could focus a bit more on balancing the lower skill champions and maybe have a bit more variety when it comes to skins. Otherwise, it’s like I’ve said, a lovely game that is so much fun to play!
About the maps and champions, I miss the scuffed designs from 2016 now everything seems like an imitation of high quality and every champion is either a waifu or husbando. Is it fair to say the charm is gone?
I love Paladins. I’ve played it for years now. But eventually I got burned out and annoyed with the decisions they made. So I quit. It’s not even a year later and I’m back. I never intended to, I truly believed I quit when I quit. But this game man, it means a lot to me. It was my first FPS game. I met my best friend who is now also my boyfriend in a Paladins match! A lot of my best friends I met in this game. And even though the lore is all over the place, it’s honestly one of my favourite aspects of Paladins. Even though I now also enjoy other games, I caught myself thinking “damn imagine if I could play Evie in this other game, that would be fun.” (Dirty Evie main still after all these years, lol) Or just the game crossing my mind still every so often. And I just realized I MISSED PALADINS, I MISSED IT. AGH. I’m both fascinated and confused. But damn it all what does it really matter? I’m playing the game again. It’s broken and unbalanced and stupid as ever. But I’m having fun. I am fond of the memories I made here. Paladins will always stick with me and for that I am greatful. Great video as well. I’m happy to see many in this community are still active and being positive. Love y’all
Great video! I quit playing Paladins in December 2020, after 4 solid years of playing it, most of it enjoyable fun, but also having a lot of issues with the game and not enjoying myself. I actually wanted to give it another shot, despite all of this, but I stumbled upon your video and am disappointed to hear that the same problems persist even a year later, and so at the moment I will leave Paladins as a memory I think, haha. For now...
Paladins was one of the first games I particularly introduced my mates on FPS games since it was free and I did have fun, but since we last played 3 years ago, its all been downhill and nothing much really went to a positive light. Im also a casual but at best got to Gold coz the matchmaking was not as bad as it is today. Hopefully this game I enjoyed get back on its feet somehow
3 years, so before the assembly of champions was implemented? 🤡🤡 Yo raven you got a bunch of nostalgic drones in the comment section who aren't intelligent enough to give a valid view.🤦♂️ Proof is you haven't even come back to try the game again....and if you did YOU WOULD'VE MENTIONED IT. If you say you did I'm not buying that B's as this in particular makes your whole comment invalid
It's pretty pathetic to...you haven't played in 3 years yet here you are....Instead of playing the actual game itself to give it a try...you're doing this. You just exposed yourself😂 Not to mention if you go to your RUclips channel not a single paladins video....but 2 years ago MULTIPLE overwatch videos.👍👍 Get lost with that BS.
@@spiritualsoul2711 Your response is very cringe and childlike, and I mean his arguments are all valid and that is coming from someone who plays paladins every single day… Guru my account if you want - Muppers
The number one thing I absolutely miss, is the customization of champions. Like a different head piece, body piece, weapon and voice pack. Now you HAVE to have the voice pack for that specific skin and I don’t really like that. I liked the creativity of it before, but they took away that creativity
Ngl i love these type of videos cause I mainly use it like a podcast while doing my work :) Thanks raven for making me feel actually not bored for once while doing my work
Ravn, you have always been a hero to our beloved game. thank you so much for all the effort you put into claiming the attention of the managers to correct the game.
On the topic of skins, there are so many inconsistencies when it comes to mastery skins. Some have cosmic, gold, and obsidian, and others only have 1 or 2 of the listed as mastery skins. Not to mention the HUGE amount of exclusive skins that can no longer be obtained or could only be obtained through specific means that are no longer available. All but 2 mounts are exclusive/can't be obtained anymore :/
I love how much work you put into this video. It makes me happy that other people wanna see paladins succeed. I can see that you made this video easy to understand and is based on facts that are accurate. Much Love Raventric❤️
Great video Raven. Appreciation all round. Although I haven't played ranked a whole lot, I do feel like a new system that rewards how well you play as compared to only winning games should be implemented. Also, working on character hitboxes could at least make the game feel more polished. I'd love to add more views but they'd be too much for this comment. Much love Raven 🤝
I would personally like to point out the bounty store. Its not a huge problem but it left an awful taste in my mouth when they changed it. It was a really cool system, grinding for bounty creds so you might like the random skin they circle through. I remember saving up a lot waiting for a skin for one of my mains, having around 1000 bounty creds(enough for most skins), leaving and coming back months later for a bounty store with over 10x the prices and reskinned to replace the old mixer store. disappointing to say the least.
Very good video on the topic, thanks for making this video and agreed wholly with the points you bring up. There just is something about Paladins. Been playing it for 5 years now with several short breaks due to various things such as these issues you brought up in the video, yet despite that, I always find myself coming back to it. However as you concluded, numbers don't lie and it would be sad to see the game go.
me and my bf picked up paladins about last month because we were getting bored of ow but wanted a similar experience. While we do get annoyed w some of the more powerful heroes, we've been having a blast with it. I'm so sad that paladins got a bad rep in it's early days as a ow ripoff because a lot of the characters have either become more unique or are just unique as is. Hoping the game gets more love in the future!
It's really sad to see my favorite game dying. The game I've spent thousand of hrs to it. This video should be wake up call for the devs that they should focus on important stuff instead of just catering to furries.
I do not play paladins often as my friends dont get on but my only problem that I remember is corvus teleport. as a crovus main its annoying when you try to teleport but it does not work and you die. Also I think the reason why POTG and payload were taken out was because they were trying to make the game less like overwatch
It's been a long time since the last time i played paladins. Yet i'm still watching paladins content & update, especially this kind of video "the complaining one" D; And finding the reason to comeback to the game. I kinda missed this game, but i'm also not really sure.
I play Paladins nearly every day since years, and everything u say is so true. There are so many funny champions but at the same times so many gamebreaking bugs. Most of the time u can't even normal jump. Imanis fire does no dmg, server delays and so on. In conclusion everytime I play its like 50% play another match and 50% uninstall this .... Nice video, love your content.
Great video as always raven! I may not play paladins as much as i used to but I do come back from time to time and get reminded of what made me fall in love with the game. I just want to see this game flourish instead of slowly fading away because of bad decisions.
Being a Talus main since his release, I can say confidently that balancing is one of mojo jojo's biggest issues. Talus has not once been a true meta character (on pc), while champions like andro, zhin, lian etc. is pretty much always meta. More recently characters like atlas has become meta which was good, but it seems like he's going to become another constant meta character. The point is the meta almost never changes, and when it does it's always the same cycle of characters. Also the bug at 12:52 is one that happens way too often for me, and as far as i know the only way to get rid of it is to get hit by an enemy. (which is a very unfair disadvantage if it's a ranked game).
I sometimes had the feeling some grouped people know some sort of exploit to manipulate the matchmaking(causual play). This only happened a few times in total but if it happened several matches were against that same group. They were 4 people grouped (all super high ranked) and one person ungrouped and very low rank. While on my team we all were solos and nobody even close to the enemy ranks.
In my opinion this game has a lot of unfinished work and completely messed up assets. Take a look at the art loading screens for example, there is absolutely no consistency there. The game feels like a mashup of different artists and artstyles and nothing feels right. You have 3d model renders, some amazing key arts, where as others seem like they were drawn by 12 year olds. Im surprised no one actually mentioned this, consistency is a key thing if you want your game to look and FEEL good. Things like the victory screen and how a game ends with the sudden "VICTORY" stamped in your screen shows lot of unpolish and reminds me of a game still in early acess. Not to mention the usual T pose that characters make when previewing some skins and etc...
great content and interesting subject, I have played the game for about 18 months (around level 350) I am an older player, i play most days for fun however i have been playing mostly bot matches recently. The reasons are simple I play 3 or 4 matches a day for fun and to relax after a hard day at work, and what I am finding is that playing in real games I either play with a team that that is not experienced or what champs to pick to make up a team (e.g. 3 healers and no tank in a siege!) or I am on a team and we simply destroy the other team. I have played about 4-5 ranked matches over the time and the toxic messages during and after the match was simply horrid. I keep loading in each day as i do enjoy the game. Cheers
Sadly, Paladins is a fading game. As most popular games, there is a point where poor choices can lead to a harsh downfall. Now i can t even play on console bcs there are just so little players. And they are also pulling the "desperate" card. Instead of focusing on fixing the old broken content, they are just trying to make the game interesting by adding new one. It s like an old painting, the canvass is filled and they keep adding new layers of new content over the old ones, of course, at one point, the canvas will break and be torn away.
I had no idea that Paladins had a feedback system set up. Maybe they could send out questionnaires inside the game to make it more available or to players' email addresses? I also think they should try to improve the servers. Thank you for posting this video! :D
very late comment, but i started getting back into the game a couple days ago, the last time i'd played before this was khan's release, i'm having so much fun despite the bugs, the character designs are incredibly fun and i adore betty la bomba, every time i think of playing i always feel like i'll have fun and when i don't i just goof around in casual matches and have a blast, and with such good content creators like yourself it's helping me come back and have more and more fun (even though my friends would rather play other games xD)
This vid was a wake up call for me, my love for this game blinded me from the truth. Paladins will never be a perfect game, but I will never stop playing lol
I'll proably break this up into parts and just go over the points you missed instead of discussing the problems you actually listed in more detail or this would be longer than a Harry Potter book because I could make 5 chapters on how overly redundant and how they are litterally just throwing away money. 1. The gutting of characters This is proably one of the worse things paladins does and its proably one of the biggest reasons for paladins decline in playerbase. For example, high mobltiy cards like Skye which gave her some viability were compelty gutted. Jenos had his unique support playstyle of being a damage buffing support comeptley removed( not nerfed or even rework. He straight up got gutted) torvald is another one. The promblem with doing this is that your are effetively removing people's favorite characters from the game. I know I don't play Skye or jenos anymore because they were comeptly gutted. 2. The removal of 25 percent of the enitre games content with removing the 4th talent. This goes alone with gutting characters but even worse because their explanations were horrible. Their argument was too many talents overlapped( which isn't even a bad thing. Fuira has 2 healing talents and so does many other healers and there all better at healing in certain situations. Having overlapping talents Isn't an issue) that's also another thing. Evil mojo thinks there communtiy is stupid. Cassie had 3 burst talents and one talent that made her more range dps oriented and less bursty overall. Your telling me you removed the only non burst talent because it was too similar to the 3 burst talents. 3. The insane amount of cripples and cc they have added and made meta is just insane. Exterminate furia, deep roots Grover, fire bomb trya, 3.2 second stun khan, innara, aoe cripple shalin, maldama, pip ult, raum ult, bomb king, jenos, and I could go on. Paladins has always had this issue of since we have an item shop we don't have to worry about how broken stuns and cc as well as healing and shields actually are and that terrible logic shows its face when you have overpowered shields, healing, and cc. Your simply having to deal with one or 2 if not all 3 broken ablites for 75 percent if not all the match till you get tier 3 in reliance, cautierze, and wrecker. Promblem is that's of your 4 item shops. What if your running a chatacter or build that requires soemthing like chronos or morale boost or nimble. Than your having to put up with these broken ablites for. Now shields Is a relatively easy fix. The promblem with shields in paladins comapred to soemthing like overwatch is in overwatch there's much more natrual cover and for the most part tanks don't have to stand out in the open for extended periods of time meaning there shields don't have to be as strong. The simple way of replicating this and allowing for shield nerfs in paladins is extend the capture zone of the opening point allowing for more space for tanks to take cover. That's the easiest thing they can do outside of flat out map reworks. Resilience is also a very easy solution. For instance, if it's not a skill shot than it should not be a cripple. No more of these giant aoe cripples like trya that are flat out better than ults like corvus or io's and is proably flat out better than her own ult. No more aoe cripple from shalin that does over half your health. Second scale down stuns and resilience. I think you can pretty much safely reduce all stuns and crowd control by 30 percent support if not 50 percent( individual abilities can be tweaked differently) Cauterize. Honeslty can just do what overwatch2 is implementing. Units that are in combact receive less healing and tweak the numbers around that so cautierze is just a built in mechanic and the item is either removed from the game or severly nerfed. Let's just say everyone has built in 30 percent caut and caut only gives 10 percent per level. 4. Role que. Playing of tank characters or off healers Is next to impossible without throwing. I'm not asking for something major like overwatch. Just have one tank spot on the team, one healer spot, and 3 flex spots. So if you want to play of healer or off tank you just pick flex. I don't think it will hurt que times that much and the qualtiy of game will be so much better when people are actually playing what they want to play. 5. Progression system actively hurts the game and is terribly designed. The challenges themselves are terrible and I play bot games to complete them so I'm not throwing games. Than the actual level system is terrible. I have 800 hours plus in the game with only one gold skin and the next closest hero is Khan at level 34. For f2p players, these are your only skins and your only way of getting them is bascially just to one trick. One of the main reasons that they are so many games without tanks or healers is because your actively punished for flexing. They made this worse by removing the abltiy to purchase levels with gold because at least than if you flex at least you were still working towards the gold skin. 6. Poor treatment of season pass holders and founders packer owners. If you bought these, you bascially payed the same price for a full game however you can't unlock the champion skins like you could if you bought overwatch. If you bought these packs, than I believe it's fair that these players only earned crystals when completing a match. Maybe 5 per loss and 15 per win. 7. Just rushed and poor champion design. The 2 last good champion designs were rei and Octavia and they gutted octavia. Vora has a nearly infinite range cripple and you can't tell how much damage she has actuallly done to you. Yagorith and raum have similar issues where its bascially you hard counter them or lose. Vattu is bascially based off an insta ki combo that requires perfect servers to even use. Saati would be a good designed champion but those decoys are annoying and being able to go invisible in the middle of gun fights virtually guarantees you the win in any duel and the coin is flat out annoying. Oh and corvus Mark's should have just been a 4th jenos talent or what the reworked illmuuunary to be. 9. Rework illuminate. For certain people,it's to hard to quickly recognize the outline illuminate gives you which is why it's so hard for them to balance saati, Skye, and strix so just let it reveal them compelty and rework Skye to be less reliant on it. 10. just to many ults are I win buttons and I'm done. This has gone on too long
@acktually aintaddingup not what 5 Is talking about. First OB 64 and not ob 54. Champion levels offer no in game advantage. The only thing you get currently is a gold skin and a title( something they should update). The promblem with the current system is that it heavily encourage one tricking and promotes not filling leading to many games without a tank or healer. If it was more like overwatch gold gun, it wouldn't be much of a promblem.( not saying overwatch's system is perfect because it requires you to play rank for gold skins which blizzard themselves have admitted attaching skins to a rank system is a horrible idea because you get people playing solely for those skins. Wish that was a mistake paladins learned from but oh well)
kill cams need to be skipable, i just wanna get to the next match i don't care that our skye dropped a bomb during overtime. and also have fancy animations and poses during the screen. keep them ranked exclusive if people want to unlock them.
Honestly I think they should add all the old battlepasses back in a way like MCC and Halo infinite will In a way where you can pick which one you want to level at a time and they wouldn't go away. They could make shit loads from old battlepass purchases. I have no doubts It would help people get the skins and other cosmetics they want while also funding the game by selling season passes and or just the individual battlepasses. I cant see their occasional loot boxes you have to wait months for to pop up get that many purchases lol. I got a friend who started a few months back and really wants the stellar protector IO skin but has no way to get any of them so he's not gonna spend money on the game unless there's a feasible (non loot box) way to get it. That's just one guy who wants just one skin I'm sure there's tons of people out there would would like multiple ones and would buy the battlepasses for them, I know I would love to go back and finish up some of my old battlepasses I didn't get a chance to finish years ago as well as buy some I missed. They should hold off on new champs and maps for like 6 Months and do an Operation Health style thing on paladins to sit down with the community they have left and listen to what is all broken while bringing back the old passes to fill in the time.
As one who has played paladins since it has come to console, I truly do love this game. I still play it too this day but I understand the "it doesn't feel the same" It was the fps that took my heart after halo 5 crushed it, it had that lightning in a bottle feeling too it. I'll always be able to come back to this came and have enjoyed it a lot recently
I played this game a little bit 3 years go and decided to go back to it when I got a Nintendo Switch (No Personal PC). Making the... switch from m&k to controller was hard enough, getting matched with people that have thousands of hours already in the game makes it really unfun, which is unfortunate, because I like the game.
I played between spring 2018 to Summer 2020. It was around when Khan was released. I remember it vividly, because Khan became my favorite Bruiser tank for FPS games. I played Paladins, TF2, and Overwatch at the same time. I did not fall in love with a character until Khan came out. When I earned him, I was in gaming Heaven for those 2 years. Every Battlepass until the Wild West one was the good time for me. I played the dailies and enjoyed my time with the game. I could never grind it so hard to earn the Battlepass skin recolor. But I felt like I enjoyed the game overall. That was until my enjoyment toward the game started to wane. The Battlepass daily missions started to feel like a chore and I did not have friends who liked the game. They would humor the game for a few days but never embrace it as a social game between them and me. Now, it has been 1.5 years later. I feel like I missed out on some decent content and skins. While I am not made of money, I still partly wish I could have earned the cosmetics as I think Paladins has great potential for its lore and characters.
I actually just recently got into this game and I’ve been having a blast. Interestingly, in the 30ish hours I’ve played so far I haven’t noticed any server issues and I’m normally one to scrutinize that kind of stuff
In the past (when I played) most of the bugs were visual bugs but most of them weren't actually stopping you from playing (ex: not getting the horse and attacking at super speed but doing no damage). I stopped playing the game during that period where 1/4 the playerbase had problems simply logging in... by that time "they" started appearing. What do I mean by "they" I mean the game breaking bugs that you get every SINGLE GAME! Bugs that literally indur your gameplay every game that made it very awful to play and not just some visual bugs that I was very used to and that I literally ignored at that point.
You've nailed everything tbh, the Aoc/matchmaking/bugs/champions/servers/ etc.. I would say this is one of the best "Paladins" %if not the best% vid in this year. Always respect for Buck players :D💜 *psst* not mentioning that Frosty commented here as well :)
Biggest issue feels like balance is built around the skins that come out terminus was actually broken til a battle pass released with his skin as highlight then you could play the champ the way it was intended
I think that the games new content has been build on the older messy code, so in order to fix the old messy code they propably have to fix the new code aswell. I really wouldnt mind if evil mojo gathered all of their experiences and create a paladins 2.0.
I used to play paladins ins 2016-2017, i left the game but play it one time in the year to see the new characters and what they do, i returned today and just loved to play with that "Rei", think i will get stick to the game again
Well, I agree with almost everything you said. As a long time veteran (playing since first ob) the most annoying thing for me was... deleting "Play of the game". I really enjoyed it and make me play better to be honoured
A couple days ago I died while ulting with Fernando, like, I was already firing fire with his gun and the animation for the ult cast had already ended.
Thanks for talking about the game. I know a lot of other Paladins content creators have voiced their opinions plenty of times but I believe that is what this game needs; a lot of community feedback and fixing. Evil mojo has been fixing a lot in the past years, (especially bugs) but the load is still rather big, which unfortunately leads to people leaving the game. I hope new events or gamemodes like a draft mode for casual can revitalize this game alongside the console life support and more fixing! I'm glad you in particular are talking about this, simply because you have been my favorite paladins content creator for some time now and I started playing Buck and Koa partly because of your videos, so thanks lot Raventrich senpai.
I love paladins, & yet I haven’t played in 3 months. This pattern of not playing for months & then playing constantly for months has been my relationship with the game since 2018. I miss late 2016 to early 2017 paladins
I've left the game a long while ago, I don't remember specifically when, but I remember Khan was the newest champion back then. Recently I picked the game up again and holy fuck, I haven't had this much fun in so long. I truly hope the game keeps on going, hopefully as long as TF2 has been. Great video, man. Thanks for catching me up to speed with the game's problems :)
great video, Paladins is indeed a unique game. Frustrating at times, but I didn't spend almost 1500 hours on a un-fun games. And I don't feel 1500 hours is a long time.... that's how much fun I got from Paladins
Great video. You voiced a lot of the reasons why I have actually stopped playing the game (and don't plan on coming back). I tried to stick with the game for multiple years and it just kept becoming less and less enjoyable, even with friends. It's my second most played game on steam with 900 hours which is pretty low for a veteran player. Reasons were as you discussed why I haven't played it more than I did. Most of it actually being back in the open beta.
very much agreed btw that horse bug is actually , you are still riding your horse , but you can only see your weapon and can't unride your horse unless you get shot by an enemy. The bug was so much more relevant before nowadays it's maybe once per week, but still annoying
I can not say just that you are so freaking TRUE! Same playing from december 2016, also a verry small YT channel...but damg...u just remembered me the payload, the time that Kinessa mines slowed and you can place a lot of them and much more...i quitted the game then come back and so on. New players have no ideea how much this game has changed...when now they say Shattered Desert is huge map but they have not played Fish market when it was 3 times his size. Nice video and lets hope this Company wakes up!
What really killed the game for me was the massive healing nerf. As I was a healer main furia and jenos after healing felt so weak and the Nerf to furia's beam was a hard hit to take especially at that time I picked up overwatch because it was on sale and I've try getting back into pal but I can't find the same love I had of the game a few years ago
(*First, Saati is op imo*). Second, some dodging is caused by matchmaking, I want to have fun, I don't want to sweat 20 minutes to carry two trashtaking bad players.
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I think they should stop making new Champs for half a year nonoe would be upset and they should fokis on fixing bugs 😔
I ALSO WANT PLAY PAYLOAD AGAIN ARARARARARARAR( rageing idiot sounds)
now i am playing OW
OK fk it i go play paladins again, just cause of you its my 4th time comming back 2 paladins, playing a bit of laggy evie love it until i ragequitt these games chause they have a perfect dredge spam comp
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Great video
The honor of actually seeing frost fangs commenting
Thanks! ^^
Love to see it
does he agree tho
@@michaelritchie3394 he does he already said once hes gonna talk about it
Raven: talking about the pros and cons of Paladins these days.
Me: baffled as to why I've never seen that Fernando lance before.
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Og player skins :^) That set was a limited time offer a while back, actually one of the rarest skins in game, until they ruin it as they did most others, lol. (Hope not)
@@Raventric Yeah, I was around when that was available, I just completely forgot that skin existed! I don't think I've ever used it, not even with a skin booster!
@@AndrewChicken Enforcer Nando? Not surprising; Skin Boosters don't unlock Limited rarity skins :(
I was also around when it first came out. Honestly the skins back then were much better. Raeve to this day is my favorite skin in all of hero shooters. I even made a real life model of it for an art project for school. Sad to see the game like this but ehh it’s still fun
The reality is Paladins was built all wrong by the alpha/beta devs and this may have caused issues nearly unsolvable without a complete rework of the game's code. I know Evil Mojo make mistakes from time to time but people on our community(on every community) seems to think that game studios has infinite resources and workers(programmers, to be more specifical) to fix all problems in short term, I truly believe evil mojo devs have a lot of love for this game and some prople who has contact with them has confirmed this to me a lot.
I also believe the biggest issue in the whole Paladins experience rn are the the servers not the bugs, in fact I've suffered a lot more from server problems than bugs till this date(I've played for over 1,5 year).
Beyond that, I think the one thing which keeps me positive about paladins future is that the game still makes money and the devs are looking forward to put new stuff for the game, like crossovers, which they confirmed they want to do more.
A great video, for a great game. :)
I would probably enjoy the buggy mess, if I could actually play it without constantly getting dropped due to bad connections with the server, and latency/rubberbanding so bad I feel like I'm picking Evie every game
I mean, Hi Rez servers became a meme, have you ever player Smite?
Or any other Hi Rez game?
There will be patches where the servers just seem to melt down.
Yeah, but they have people to create another copy paste hero for hamsters. Like, why? Why we need another Seris or Jenos? For illusion of content?
It's really be better if they are just delay another new season hero and fix bugs or make an actual balance patch.
I always expect them to grow but nope they just still use the same client that even just the main menu is so wonky and very laggy despite of running in lowest resolution.. They did the same with smite too
@@JustDeichan moji is unbalanced
I really love this game, I really do. I'm glad to see the community and people like you are still being positive despite the poor management of the game over the years. I'm definitely going to check out your discord server to look for more people to play with.
Is the game fun for casual jump in and out? If it's tryhard and bad matchmaking it really turns me off to get into...
@@PolarbearYGT I feel like it's a good casual game, just not worth it in competitive
@@Anthonyist I see. Casual is what I was looking for. Tried totally accurate battlegrounds, even tho the game mechanics were SUPER fun to play, the matchmaking always had really high level guys who would murder on spot within a millisecond
@@PolarbearYGT In casual it's mixed as well but I feel like with the way Paladins is you'd have a fighting chance.
@@Anthonyist nice nice
Feels like paladins has been "losing numbers" for the past 3 years... but - we still going?
We kinda just have the steam numbers, and the biggest part of the playerbase is in ps4(console in general), sooo
Epic games player here
@@posseidao5447 player tracker is not just pc related ^^
i am playing thru epic games
@@Raventric more players then just steam....**proceeds to only show the steam charts throughout the entire video**🤡🤡
I have to admit, doing what Overwatch is doing might be the best for Paladins here. Make a Paladins 2 with a better code to begin with, make skins/mounts/icons etc. carry over. With a new engine they can fix and improve a lot, and while they are at it, they can also upgrade visuals of characters and skins and work on their balancing. Just like Overwatch but bigger, since they have to do more.
With a good store, better servers, maybe Battlepasses back and good new visuals, they'd have tons of players that would love to play and stay there for a long time.
And I am not talking overwatch graphics or better, I just mean, polished up a bit with a few of the old character models a bit more modern and on par with new ones.
Yeah but that'll cost millions of Dollars to develop and from History I don't think Hi-Rez are ever gonna invest that much, I mean Realm Royale is still in Beta till this day, I seriously wish some massive company boys Hi-Rez , I love their games but hate their Decision making
@@Fr3d_ I do know that money would be a big problem, but if they just let their games bleed out, they will loose even more I think. Its like Raven said, they just release new games, but never care enough for one to actually be "very very good" instead of just "okey but fun" if you know what I mean
Idk i feel like the tf2 approuch would be better
I think the major issue is that they lack the resources to start on that, as good of an idea as it would be.
@@rillafy7966 What is that approach exactly? Have never played it
"Today we will be talking about what is wrong with paladins" isnt that everyday?
I have been playing Paladins for more than 3 years, and it is my favorite hero shooter game! But with time there are so many server and bug issues and new changes that I cannot get used to.
1. The servers lagging or the match completely freezes and I have to wait to rejoin the game. And the Paladin bugs that can never go away.
2. The old battlepass vs. The new event pass. The new event passes suck! Many challenges are impossible to complete even against bots and there is no way to earn all of the pass rewards if you don't complete all of the challenges trials in the list. In the old BP system all you would lose out on is an earnable title if you don't complete every challenge. And not including ALL the event skins in the pass that you are paying for?? What gives? Why should I have to buy an extra chest for the CHANCE to earn one of the new event skins vs. the old passes where I would earn all the new pass skins PLUS recolors!!! The only new change I like in the event is the map where the trial challenges are held and seeing all of the locations of the realm in one place. It adds to the worldbuilding of the game. Bring back the old Battlepass system or they will lose more players!
3. Bring back top play bring back top play bring back top play!
4. More skins for "less popular" characters. New champs coming and getting new skins and yet Atlas for example only has ONE non common skin! And Willo hasn't had a new skin in years! More love for every champ. And when it breaks, fix the bounty store so that I can actually use my bounty store skins!
I don't want this game to die but it could if Hi Rez doesn't fix their game.
I'm a new player and I really like paladins but your second point it right on the spot! I've had multiple games where my enemies are grand masters or just super experienced players compared to my teammates. We either have no chance of winning or we have no chance of losing, there's barely any game that seems balanced matchmaking wise but when there is I really do enjoy the game
Funny thing is, matchmaking has always been pretty much this bad. I still remember a game where I played around 1pm for Western Europeans and I was silver back then. I literally had a game with only master's excluding me. That was just... A different experience. And this was back when the borders showed your actual rank too which made it a lot more hilarious imo.
Honestly my main idea for why paladins is losing players is lack of advertising. I have never seen an ad for the game, not on RUclips, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Google, nowhere, yet I see a buncha ads for Rogue Company.
Oh and also, I think this game REALLY needs an Operation Health like what Ubisoft did to Siege: forgo doing a big content update and instead fix core issues with the game.
Paladins is just that game that hit the perfect sweet spot and there is a good chance there will never ever be a game like it again, that would at least be another reason for me to just stay and enjoy it for what it is.
I do honestly believe tho that the future is bright and the coming years will be big, just gotta hope no suboptimal decisions will be taken anymore, not sure how another OB64 like event will go over o3o
Honestly, I whole heartedly agree with your opinions in this video. I play the game to have fun. Just recently I was playing a game of Onslaught and both of our teams just went passive to each other and started messing around. Games like that really make me appreciate the playerbase, even though some are really sweaty and toxic. While yes, sometimes bugs get in the way of the game, but look at Skyrim. Skyrim isn't the most polished and bug free game out there, but yet so many people still love and play the game.
I agree with most things, well like everything except the community, because I met more toxic, than kind people there, but finally someone pointed out the problems Paladins has. For me, server lag is still the main problem, why I stopped playing, cuz I don't have it just from time to time, but literally every match, every 2 minutes atleast and most jumps don't even work the whole match... And this thing is just unacceptable for a 'competitive' game, even if you play just casuals. I would actually get over all those problems and stuff, if the game atleast worked like before and I think now is the worst state of Paladins, even worse than previous years. It's also funny they're at the lowest players count, when they're trying to add too much stuff. They're just killing their game themselves with all this, instead of doing that one thing players wants, and that's a smooth gameplay without any fps drops and server lags, like it used to be maybe 4 or 3 years ago. I just see Paladins going downhill and don't see any future for it, it's gonna be worse and worse, and that's why I also have no motivation to continue playing it... :/
Iam agreed with u
yes I agree with you. As a meave, that fucks up the whole mood.
The only way too keep it at it's lifeline is to have it's own Steam's COMMUNITY WORKSHOP.
I'd love to make maps/mods for this game that has been with me for 4 years(Though they are hiring right now, why would I want to work with Hi-Rez lmao)
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I played ow pretty consistently for about 2 years. I eventually stopped playing it, I don't really remember why. But I've picked up this game out of a recommendation of a friend and I've been having a blast! Personally I like the champion's kits in this game more than overwatch! There are a lot of really interesting characters. I feel like every character has a really solid kit for different scenarios. Everyone I've played feels really "complete" I guess you could say. I've been playing grover and ash. I want to get into bomb king, mal'damba and vora! Just bought both of them. It seems like the match making isn't sure where to put me yet, it definitely thinks I'm worse than I actually am. I hope it figures it out soon I'm tired of playing with people who play siege like it's a free for all in call of duty.
But overall for a free to play game I've been loving it! I hope it doesn't get ruined for me
I’ve waited 3 years for another Pip skin, but I still continue to have a great time with the game and I usually have a blast when I’m playing it with my friends.
I think that HiRez could focus a bit more on balancing the lower skill champions and maybe have a bit more variety when it comes to skins. Otherwise, it’s like I’ve said, a lovely game that is so much fun to play!
About the maps and champions, I miss the scuffed designs from 2016 now everything seems like an imitation of high quality and every champion is either a waifu or husbando. Is it fair to say the charm is gone?
so yag is a waifu then? not that I like her design but I wouldn't say I agree on that point lol
Most of the characters, ok? There are no more mythical characters as Grokh etc
I love Paladins. I’ve played it for years now. But eventually I got burned out and annoyed with the decisions they made. So I quit. It’s not even a year later and I’m back. I never intended to, I truly believed I quit when I quit. But this game man, it means a lot to me. It was my first FPS game. I met my best friend who is now also my boyfriend in a Paladins match! A lot of my best friends I met in this game. And even though the lore is all over the place, it’s honestly one of my favourite aspects of Paladins.
Even though I now also enjoy other games, I caught myself thinking “damn imagine if I could play Evie in this other game, that would be fun.” (Dirty Evie main still after all these years, lol) Or just the game crossing my mind still every so often. And I just realized I MISSED PALADINS, I MISSED IT. AGH. I’m both fascinated and confused. But damn it all what does it really matter? I’m playing the game again. It’s broken and unbalanced and stupid as ever. But I’m having fun. I am fond of the memories I made here. Paladins will always stick with me and for that I am greatful.
Great video as well. I’m happy to see many in this community are still active and being positive. Love y’all
Great video! I quit playing Paladins in December 2020, after 4 solid years of playing it, most of it enjoyable fun, but also having a lot of issues with the game and not enjoying myself.
I actually wanted to give it another shot, despite all of this, but I stumbled upon your video and am disappointed to hear that the same problems persist even a year later, and so at the moment I will leave Paladins as a memory I think, haha. For now...
Paladins was one of the first games I particularly introduced my mates on FPS games since it was free and I did have fun, but since we last played 3 years ago, its all been downhill and nothing much really went to a positive light. Im also a casual but at best got to Gold coz the matchmaking was not as bad as it is today. Hopefully this game I enjoyed get back on its feet somehow
3 years, so before the assembly of champions was implemented? 🤡🤡
Yo raven you got a bunch of nostalgic drones in the comment section who aren't intelligent enough to give a valid view.🤦♂️
Proof is you haven't even come back to try the game again....and if you did YOU WOULD'VE MENTIONED IT.
If you say you did I'm not buying that B's as this in particular makes your whole comment invalid
It's pretty pathetic to...you haven't played in 3 years yet here you are....Instead of playing the actual game itself to give it a try...you're doing this. You just exposed yourself😂
Not to mention if you go to your RUclips channel not a single paladins video....but 2 years ago MULTIPLE overwatch videos.👍👍
Get lost with that BS.
@@spiritualsoul2711 Your response is very cringe and childlike, and I mean his arguments are all valid and that is coming from someone who plays paladins every single day… Guru my account if you want - Muppers
The number one thing I absolutely miss, is the customization of champions. Like a different head piece, body piece, weapon and voice pack. Now you HAVE to have the voice pack for that specific skin and I don’t really like that. I liked the creativity of it before, but they took away that creativity
Ngl i love these type of videos cause I mainly use it like a podcast while doing my work :)
Thanks raven for making me feel actually not bored for once while doing my work
how paladins go stonks:
-killcam back
-payload
finished
Ravn, you have always been a hero to our beloved game. thank you so much for all the effort you put into claiming the attention of the managers to correct the game.
On the topic of skins, there are so many inconsistencies when it comes to mastery skins. Some have cosmic, gold, and obsidian, and others only have 1 or 2 of the listed as mastery skins. Not to mention the HUGE amount of exclusive skins that can no longer be obtained or could only be obtained through specific means that are no longer available. All but 2 mounts are exclusive/can't be obtained anymore :/
I love how much work you put into this video. It makes me happy that other people wanna see paladins succeed. I can see that you made this video easy to understand and is based on facts that are accurate. Much Love Raventric❤️
The nostalgia i had when he showed the paylod mode clip... i had completely forgot playing it, i had so mutch fun. And all the old desings, so cool.
Great video Raven. Appreciation all round. Although I haven't played ranked a whole lot, I do feel like a new system that rewards how well you play as compared to only winning games should be implemented. Also, working on character hitboxes could at least make the game feel more polished. I'd love to add more views but they'd be too much for this comment. Much love Raven 🤝
If the Paladins Devs saw this video it would open so many new doors for them. Their game is dying because they’re killing it.
I would personally like to point out the bounty store. Its not a huge problem but it left an awful taste in my mouth when they changed it. It was a really cool system, grinding for bounty creds so you might like the random skin they circle through. I remember saving up a lot waiting for a skin for one of my mains, having around 1000 bounty creds(enough for most skins), leaving and coming back months later for a bounty store with over 10x the prices and reskinned to replace the old mixer store. disappointing to say the least.
Very good video on the topic, thanks for making this video and agreed wholly with the points you bring up.
There just is something about Paladins. Been playing it for 5 years now with several short breaks due to various things such as these issues you brought up in the video, yet despite that, I always find myself coming back to it.
However as you concluded, numbers don't lie and it would be sad to see the game go.
This video: Exists
Hirez: I'll pretend I didn't see that
me and my bf picked up paladins about last month because we were getting bored of ow but wanted a similar experience. While we do get annoyed w some of the more powerful heroes, we've been having a blast with it. I'm so sad that paladins got a bad rep in it's early days as a ow ripoff because a lot of the characters have either become more unique or are just unique as is. Hoping the game gets more love in the future!
I feel like making a completely new paladins would solve everything
I recently came back to paladins and I'm really happy to see is not that dead
It's really sad to see my favorite game dying. The game I've spent thousand of hrs to it. This video should be wake up call for the devs that they should focus on important stuff instead of just catering to furries.
big wake up call
Rework Torvald into a sniper tank with impenetrable shields!
Oh wait...
Partnership events like the gen lock event pass could also help in increasing the player base
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I do not play paladins often as my friends dont get on but my only problem that I remember is corvus teleport. as a crovus main its annoying when you try to teleport but it does not work and you die. Also I think the reason why POTG and payload were taken out was because they were trying to make the game less like overwatch
Always love to see your input and thoughts about one of my favorite games
Imagine if this game had the polish of Overwatch or if Overwatch was still adding new heroes like Paladins
It's been a long time since the last time i played paladins. Yet i'm still watching paladins content & update, especially this kind of video "the complaining one" D;
And finding the reason to comeback to the game.
I kinda missed this game, but i'm also not really sure.
Glad to know Hirez is still Hirez after all those years, even after changing the name.
13:06 The fact that Raventric is Russian made this moment ten times funnier
I play Paladins nearly every day since years, and everything u say is so true. There are so many funny champions but at the same times so many gamebreaking bugs. Most of the time u can't even normal jump. Imanis fire does no dmg, server delays and so on. In conclusion everytime I play its like 50% play another match and 50% uninstall this ....
Nice video, love your content.
Great video as always raven! I may not play paladins as much as i used to but I do come back from time to time and get reminded of what made me fall in love with the game. I just want to see this game flourish instead of slowly fading away because of bad decisions.
it been 3 years since i started and will continue till the end
Being a Talus main since his release, I can say confidently that balancing is one of mojo jojo's biggest issues. Talus has not once been a true meta character (on pc), while champions like andro, zhin, lian etc. is pretty much always meta. More recently characters like atlas has become meta which was good, but it seems like he's going to become another constant meta character. The point is the meta almost never changes, and when it does it's always the same cycle of characters.
Also the bug at 12:52 is one that happens way too often for me, and as far as i know the only way to get rid of it is to get hit by an enemy. (which is a very unfair disadvantage if it's a ranked game).
The only way to balance Talus is to make him less bursty and I doubt Talus mains would like that.
@@blamasterk true, it just sucks :/
I sometimes had the feeling some grouped people know some sort of exploit to manipulate the matchmaking(causual play). This only happened a few times in total but if it happened several matches were against that same group.
They were 4 people grouped (all super high ranked) and one person ungrouped and very low rank.
While on my team we all were solos and nobody even close to the enemy ranks.
In my opinion this game has a lot of unfinished work and completely messed up assets. Take a look at the art loading screens for example, there is absolutely no consistency there. The game feels like a mashup of different artists and artstyles and nothing feels right. You have 3d model renders, some amazing key arts, where as others seem like they were drawn by 12 year olds. Im surprised no one actually mentioned this, consistency is a key thing if you want your game to look and FEEL good. Things like the victory screen and how a game ends with the sudden "VICTORY" stamped in your screen shows lot of unpolish and reminds me of a game still in early acess. Not to mention the usual T pose that characters make when previewing some skins and etc...
great content and interesting subject, I have played the game for about 18 months (around level 350) I am an older player, i play most days for fun however i have been playing mostly bot matches recently. The reasons are simple I play 3 or 4 matches a day for fun and to relax after a hard day at work, and what I am finding is that playing in real games I either play with a team that that is not experienced or what champs to pick to make up a team (e.g. 3 healers and no tank in a siege!) or I am on a team and we simply destroy the other team. I have played about 4-5 ranked matches over the time and the toxic messages during and after the match was simply horrid. I keep loading in each day as i do enjoy the game. Cheers
Sadly, Paladins is a fading game.
As most popular games, there is a point where poor choices can lead to a harsh downfall.
Now i can t even play on console bcs there are just so little players.
And they are also pulling the "desperate" card. Instead of focusing on fixing the old broken content, they are just trying to make the game interesting by adding new one.
It s like an old painting, the canvass is filled and they keep adding new layers of new content over the old ones, of course, at one point, the canvas will break and be torn away.
I had no idea that Paladins had a feedback system set up. Maybe they could send out questionnaires inside the game to make it more available or to players' email addresses? I also think they should try to improve the servers.
Thank you for posting this video! :D
Paladins has been less and less enjoyable to me ever since 2017, OB64 happened and after that, the magic just kinda faded and never came back for me.
very late comment, but i started getting back into the game a couple days ago, the last time i'd played before this was khan's release, i'm having so much fun despite the bugs, the character designs are incredibly fun and i adore betty la bomba, every time i think of playing i always feel like i'll have fun and when i don't i just goof around in casual matches and have a blast, and with such good content creators like yourself it's helping me come back and have more and more fun (even though my friends would rather play other games xD)
This vid was a wake up call for me, my love for this game blinded me from the truth. Paladins will never be a perfect game, but I will never stop playing lol
In my opinion server issues and bugs are the biggest problem.
I'll proably break this up into parts and just go over the points you missed instead of discussing the problems you actually listed in more detail or this would be longer than a Harry Potter book because I could make 5 chapters on how overly redundant and how they are litterally just throwing away money.
1. The gutting of characters
This is proably one of the worse things paladins does and its proably one of the biggest reasons for paladins decline in playerbase.
For example, high mobltiy cards like Skye which gave her some viability were compelty gutted. Jenos had his unique support playstyle of being a damage buffing support comeptley removed( not nerfed or even rework. He straight up got gutted) torvald is another one. The promblem with doing this is that your are effetively removing people's favorite characters from the game. I know I don't play Skye or jenos anymore because they were comeptly gutted.
2. The removal of 25 percent of the enitre games content with removing the 4th talent. This goes alone with gutting characters but even worse because their explanations were horrible. Their argument was too many talents overlapped( which isn't even a bad thing. Fuira has 2 healing talents and so does many other healers and there all better at healing in certain situations. Having overlapping talents Isn't an issue) that's also another thing. Evil mojo thinks there communtiy is stupid.
Cassie had 3 burst talents and one talent that made her more range dps oriented and less bursty overall. Your telling me you removed the only non burst talent because it was too similar to the 3 burst talents.
3. The insane amount of cripples and cc they have added and made meta is just insane.
Exterminate furia, deep roots Grover, fire bomb trya, 3.2 second stun khan, innara, aoe cripple shalin, maldama, pip ult, raum ult, bomb king, jenos, and I could go on.
Paladins has always had this issue of since we have an item shop we don't have to worry about how broken stuns and cc as well as healing and shields actually are and that terrible logic shows its face when you have overpowered shields, healing, and cc.
Your simply having to deal with one or 2 if not all 3 broken ablites for 75 percent if not all the match till you get tier 3 in reliance, cautierze, and wrecker. Promblem is that's of your 4 item shops.
What if your running a chatacter or build that requires soemthing like chronos or morale boost or nimble.
Than your having to put up with these broken ablites for.
Now shields Is a relatively easy fix. The promblem with shields in paladins comapred to soemthing like overwatch is in overwatch there's much more natrual cover and for the most part tanks don't have to stand out in the open for extended periods of time meaning there shields don't have to be as strong.
The simple way of replicating this and allowing for shield nerfs in paladins is extend the capture zone of the opening point allowing for more space for tanks to take cover. That's the easiest thing they can do outside of flat out map reworks.
Resilience is also a very easy solution.
For instance, if it's not a skill shot than it should not be a cripple. No more of these giant aoe cripples like trya that are flat out better than ults like corvus or io's and is proably flat out better than her own ult. No more aoe cripple from shalin that does over half your health.
Second scale down stuns and resilience. I think you can pretty much safely reduce all stuns and crowd control by 30 percent support if not 50 percent( individual abilities can be tweaked differently)
Cauterize. Honeslty can just do what overwatch2 is implementing. Units that are in combact receive less healing and tweak the numbers around that so cautierze is just a built in mechanic and the item is either removed from the game or severly nerfed.
Let's just say everyone has built in 30 percent caut and caut only gives 10 percent per level.
4. Role que. Playing of tank characters or off healers Is next to impossible without throwing. I'm not asking for something major like overwatch.
Just have one tank spot on the team, one healer spot, and 3 flex spots.
So if you want to play of healer or off tank you just pick flex. I don't think it will hurt que times that much and the qualtiy of game will be so much better when people are actually playing what they want to play.
5. Progression system actively hurts the game and is terribly designed.
The challenges themselves are terrible and I play bot games to complete them so I'm not throwing games. Than the actual level system is terrible. I have 800 hours plus in the game with only one gold skin and the next closest hero is Khan at level 34. For f2p players, these are your only skins and your only way of getting them is bascially just to one trick. One of the main reasons that they are so many games without tanks or healers is because your actively punished for flexing. They made this worse by removing the abltiy to purchase levels with gold because at least than if you flex at least you were still working towards the gold skin.
6. Poor treatment of season pass holders and founders packer owners. If you bought these, you bascially payed the same price for a full game however you can't unlock the champion skins like you could if you bought overwatch. If you bought these packs, than I believe it's fair that these players only earned crystals when completing a match.
Maybe 5 per loss and 15 per win.
7. Just rushed and poor champion design. The 2 last good champion designs were rei and Octavia and they gutted octavia. Vora has a nearly infinite range cripple and you can't tell how much damage she has actuallly done to you. Yagorith and raum have similar issues where its bascially you hard counter them or lose. Vattu is bascially based off an insta ki combo that requires perfect servers to even use. Saati would be a good designed champion but those decoys are annoying and being able to go invisible in the middle of gun fights virtually guarantees you the win in any duel and the coin is flat out annoying.
Oh and corvus Mark's should have just been a 4th jenos talent or what the reworked illmuuunary to be.
9. Rework illuminate. For certain people,it's to hard to quickly recognize the outline illuminate gives you which is why it's so hard for them to balance saati, Skye, and strix so just let it reveal them compelty and rework Skye to be less reliant on it.
10. just to many ults are I win buttons and I'm done. This has gone on too long
@acktually aintaddingup not what 5 Is talking about.
First OB 64 and not ob 54. Champion levels offer no in game advantage. The only thing you get currently is a gold skin and a title( something they should update). The promblem with the current system is that it heavily encourage one tricking and promotes not filling leading to many games without a tank or healer.
If it was more like overwatch gold gun, it wouldn't be much of a promblem.( not saying overwatch's system is perfect because it requires you to play rank for gold skins which blizzard themselves have admitted attaching skins to a rank system is a horrible idea because you get people playing solely for those skins. Wish that was a mistake paladins learned from but oh well)
that ad is smooothh af, I watch the video in full screen and didn't even realize
kill cams need to be skipable, i just wanna get to the next match i don't care that our skye dropped a bomb during overtime. and also have fancy animations and poses during the screen. keep them ranked exclusive if people want to unlock them.
Honestly I think they should add all the old battlepasses back in a way like MCC and Halo infinite will In a way where you can pick which one you want to level at a time and they wouldn't go away. They could make shit loads from old battlepass purchases. I have no doubts It would help people get the skins and other cosmetics they want while also funding the game by selling season passes and or just the individual battlepasses. I cant see their occasional loot boxes you have to wait months for to pop up get that many purchases lol. I got a friend who started a few months back and really wants the stellar protector IO skin but has no way to get any of them so he's not gonna spend money on the game unless there's a feasible (non loot box) way to get it. That's just one guy who wants just one skin I'm sure there's tons of people out there would would like multiple ones and would buy the battlepasses for them, I know I would love to go back and finish up some of my old battlepasses I didn't get a chance to finish years ago as well as buy some I missed.
They should hold off on new champs and maps for like 6 Months and do an Operation Health style thing on paladins to sit down with the community they have left and listen to what is all broken while bringing back the old passes to fill in the time.
As one who has played paladins since it has come to console, I truly do love this game. I still play it too this day but I understand the "it doesn't feel the same" It was the fps that took my heart after halo 5 crushed it, it had that lightning in a bottle feeling too it. I'll always be able to come back to this came and have enjoyed it a lot recently
Started playing last week been enjoying it
I played this game a little bit 3 years go and decided to go back to it when I got a Nintendo Switch (No Personal PC). Making the... switch from m&k to controller was hard enough, getting matched with people that have thousands of hours already in the game makes it really unfun, which is unfortunate, because I like the game.
I played between spring 2018 to Summer 2020. It was around when Khan was released. I remember it vividly, because Khan became my favorite Bruiser tank for FPS games. I played Paladins, TF2, and Overwatch at the same time. I did not fall in love with a character until Khan came out. When I earned him, I was in gaming Heaven for those 2 years. Every Battlepass until the Wild West one was the good time for me.
I played the dailies and enjoyed my time with the game. I could never grind it so hard to earn the Battlepass skin recolor. But I felt like I enjoyed the game overall. That was until my enjoyment toward the game started to wane.
The Battlepass daily missions started to feel like a chore and I did not have friends who liked the game. They would humor the game for a few days but never embrace it as a social game between them and me.
Now, it has been 1.5 years later. I feel like I missed out on some decent content and skins. While I am not made of money, I still partly wish I could have earned the cosmetics as I think Paladins has great potential for its lore and characters.
That top play is most fun when i used to play paladins when i was kid...but now i realize its not there 😭
Buck: noone saw that.
The entire internet: saw what?
I actually just recently got into this game and I’ve been having a blast. Interestingly, in the 30ish hours I’ve played so far I haven’t noticed any server issues and I’m normally one to scrutinize that kind of stuff
In the past (when I played) most of the bugs were visual bugs but most of them weren't actually stopping you from playing (ex: not getting the horse and attacking at super speed but doing no damage). I stopped playing the game during that period where 1/4 the playerbase had problems simply logging in... by that time "they" started appearing. What do I mean by "they" I mean the game breaking bugs that you get every SINGLE GAME! Bugs that literally indur your gameplay every game that made it very awful to play and not just some visual bugs that I was very used to and that I literally ignored at that point.
You've nailed everything tbh, the Aoc/matchmaking/bugs/champions/servers/ etc.. I would say this is one of the best "Paladins" %if not the best% vid in this year. Always respect for Buck players :D💜
*psst*
not mentioning that Frosty commented here as well :)
i was just chilling in paladins with my lovely kinessa and... surprise, 2 grand masters in the other team :D
Biggest issue feels like balance is built around the skins that come out terminus was actually broken til a battle pass released with his skin as highlight then you could play the champ the way it was intended
Community should be discussed in two different ways: "in-game community" and "social media community", as they are VERY different
I haven't played for so long, thank you for making the video.
these things need to be openly discussed
I think that the games new content has been build on the older messy code, so in order to fix the old messy code they propably have to fix the new code aswell. I really wouldnt mind if evil mojo gathered all of their experiences and create a paladins 2.0.
I used to play paladins ins 2016-2017, i left the game but play it one time in the year to see the new characters and what they do, i returned today and just loved to play with that "Rei", think i will get stick to the game again
If we spam on every outlet EM and hirez can see that we want payload and top play back than we might get successful even if it's an LTM
Well, I agree with almost everything you said. As a long time veteran (playing since first ob) the most annoying thing for me was... deleting "Play of the game". I really enjoyed it and make me play better to be honoured
A couple days ago I died while ulting with Fernando, like, I was already firing fire with his gun and the animation for the ult cast had already ended.
Thanks for talking about the game. I know a lot of other Paladins content creators have voiced their opinions plenty of times but I believe that is what this game needs; a lot of community feedback and fixing. Evil mojo has been fixing a lot in the past years, (especially bugs) but the load is still rather big, which unfortunately leads to people leaving the game. I hope new events or gamemodes like a draft mode for casual can revitalize this game alongside the console life support and more fixing!
I'm glad you in particular are talking about this, simply because you have been my favorite paladins content creator for some time now and I started playing Buck and Koa partly because of your videos, so thanks lot Raventrich senpai.
I love paladins, & yet I haven’t played in 3 months. This pattern of not playing for months & then playing constantly for months has been my relationship with the game since 2018. I miss late 2016 to early 2017 paladins
I've left the game a long while ago, I don't remember specifically when, but I remember Khan was the newest champion back then.
Recently I picked the game up again and holy fuck, I haven't had this much fun in so long. I truly hope the game keeps on going, hopefully as long as TF2 has been.
Great video, man. Thanks for catching me up to speed with the game's problems :)
There's no comp scene anymore and that was the whole grind for a lot of us
Damn bro I'm almost sad for discovering your channel so late. I'm really loving your content
I stopped playing a little over a year ago. Some days I wanna open it back up and play a few matches, but then I remember why I stopped.
great video, Paladins is indeed a unique game. Frustrating at times, but I didn't spend almost 1500 hours on a un-fun games.
And I don't feel 1500 hours is a long time.... that's how much fun I got from Paladins
Great video. You voiced a lot of the reasons why I have actually stopped playing the game (and don't plan on coming back). I tried to stick with the game for multiple years and it just kept becoming less and less enjoyable, even with friends. It's my second most played game on steam with 900 hours which is pretty low for a veteran player. Reasons were as you discussed why I haven't played it more than I did. Most of it actually being back in the open beta.
12:18 I like that guy whose nickname is "АУБЛЯТЬ"
I wouldn't care about any of these issues if they just listened and brought back the goddamn 3ed person view..I just want to play paladins again...
very much agreed
btw that horse bug is actually , you are still riding your horse , but you can only see your weapon and can't unride your horse unless you get shot by an enemy. The bug was so much more relevant before nowadays it's maybe once per week, but still annoying
I can not say just that you are so freaking TRUE! Same playing from december 2016, also a verry small YT channel...but damg...u just remembered me the payload, the time that Kinessa mines slowed and you can place a lot of them and much more...i quitted the game then come back and so on. New players have no ideea how much this game has changed...when now they say Shattered Desert is huge map but they have not played Fish market when it was 3 times his size. Nice video and lets hope this Company wakes up!
I came back to the game because of Vatu.
I like his design: both kits and art.
Stopped playing almost one year ago (was gm strix main lmao) but your videos still are as entertaining
I miss the special game modes that paladins made for like the soccer game mode and such like that, things that made the game different
Remember bushes? Yes, they are was 90% useless. But sometimes it's was fun to use.
What really killed the game for me was the massive healing nerf. As I was a healer main furia and jenos after healing felt so weak and the Nerf to furia's beam was a hard hit to take especially at that time I picked up overwatch because it was on sale and I've try getting back into pal but I can't find the same love I had of the game a few years ago
(*First, Saati is op imo*). Second, some dodging is caused by matchmaking, I want to have fun, I don't want to sweat 20 minutes to carry two trashtaking bad players.