thanks for clearing things up. in WOT, there is no 'assault gun' category so they are grouped together with TDs in the 'tank destroyer' category. you can use TD's for either application in the game. one thing that the two classes tend to have in common is the turretless design or quite limited turret rotation capabilities.
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I think the Japanese beat WOT. Back in 2000 I picked up a Japanese book on German tank design. The assault gun variant of the E100, the gun was forward mounted as on the Jadpanther with a sub turret with a 20-30 cm anti aircraft gun.
@@Neko.Virtual Sorry I could not tell you the name of the book because it is written in Japanese/ Kanji as part of my collection of books from overseas
I'm left wondering, why hasn't anyone made a kitbash of a Tiger I Jagdtiger or a StugTiger? Take the Ferdinand or the StuG casemate and plonk it on a Tiger I hull, rather than the King Tiger.
Ah yes models made by scale swapping, and matching turret ring sizes.... FUN. basically take a light SPG turret from a scale up, and put it on the hull of a Super heavy tank in a scale down/ Original scale.
Okay, one shot kills at four kilometres are impressive (assuming the crew could actually hit targets with the first shot every single time). But that thing would be an artillery magnet at best.
@Steve Arthur They don't have to be. Unless you think this thing could have waded through artillery and bombs. You don't even need a hard kill. Either damage the terrain around it or equipment on it. Or deny it and its comrades the ability to resupply.
@Steve Arthur Yes. Strangely enough that would be what the engine, fuel, transmission, tracks, driver etc are for. However as the Germans found out during WW2, artillery can be used to break up attacks and if you don't have control of the skies, you are vulnerable.
@Steve Arthur Tanks do not exist in a vacuum. They need support otherwise they tend to be knocked out with 'relative' ease /Depending on the circumstances of course. I am not saying a tank will lose every time but there is a reason why they don't attack things all by themselves. Instead they usually have infantry support or similar. You do realise that a pretty common tactic was for aircraft and/or artillery to be called on to targets of interest or stubborn points of resistance? Yes, even Germany did that. You do realise that aircraft fly right? You do know self propelled guns exist? You do know that artillery pieces can move? You do know that attacks and defence often involve artillery/ tank / infantry support etc? You have seen pictures of tanks disabled by artillery, wither by direct hits / near misses / crew abandoning them / lack of fuel and or ammunition? You do realise that vehicles need fuel to move and ammunition to fight? Real combat is not like WoT or WT. I'm sure if Germany had thousands of tanks of this type & the logistics to support it, the war would have dragged on for a bit longer but in the end, it would have been defeated. Now I've spent way longer replying to you than deserve. Have a nice life.
I remember when WG was testing the Jagdzilla with the 15cm L/63, but the playerbase generally demanded heavy firepower to match up with the Soviet line after so many small(er) caliber/higher pen guns in the line compared to the Soviets
Question for me is... That Why in E-75 12.8cm/10.5, E-100, Jagdpanzer/Stug E-100 have a Different Muzzle break form the German tank like most of the German tank at the time?
Why keep it except for historical value? It was not great war trophy, being a lump of incomplete hull for a vehicle that never ran. It offered little new insight into tank design, making it of little value as a research aid, especially when the British could talk to many of the actual German engineers themselves. As much as we enthusiasts want all the tanks to be around for us to enjoy, tanks are a military tool, and tools are there to be used. Tanks are dense concentrations of strategic materials like armor steel. If they are no longer useful as weapons, they are always useful being melted down to make new weapons. Really, we should be grateful that any tanks escape the scrapyard.
@@startingbark0356 E-100 had no gun. It was under-powered without a turret, and Germans had no better engine to replace the 700HP unit. This is what it was. A big turd. And those arent useful for the military. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/E-100.jpg
some games make it looks like a jag panther like the game that will come out soon called “Tank Company” I think it is called the Stug E100 or Stugpanzer E100 or something that had to do with the stug name. It seems interesting…and would seem like a good idea.
Because they did. It is the most accurate design given it is the same thing that happened to the Jagdtiger, and the E-100 is (in concept) just a bigger and more heavily armored Tiger 2.
@tankencyclopedia how tactically would the e100 be used given its speed and weight firepower could a rapid reaction brigades with bridging equipment of made the use of the e100 rationalised and practical?
@@nikoniko9121 Easy! Play a map with single lines of advance (i.e. almost every city map), making it damn near impossible to penetrate from the front - so you have to use "gold" ammo. That then leaves you with a choice of either paying real money to buy the gold, or play the game at a massive loss (which _then_ leads you to pay real money to buy in game credits). See the first two minutes of this video - ruclips.net/video/LfxuQidPssY/видео.html
@@nikoniko9121 I gave up before I got that far - the only T10's I got were Russian HT's . But with such a mediocre gun accuracy, you're not going to be able to sit at range and snipe like you can with the WT E100 or Grille 15.....
This tank is very bad in wot and since wargaming does not do the bare minimum in balancing all vehicles in the game to be roughly on the same level its even worse. In particular this vehicle has not been buffed even tho all other german tier 10 have been buffed over time its armor is now the worst of all german tier 10 tanks and its cannon was always infuriating taking long to aim just to miss even tho its accuracy is supposedly good. Its large damage per shot is only 40 % higher than other tds while its damage per minute is lower than many tanks that arent even tds all in all the tanks only strength is to load gold ammunition (8000 instead of 2000 per shot ) at which point its large penetration of 400 can often compensate for accuracy as a hit at all can be enough to penetrate the enemy unlike the ap ammo where a weakspot hit is neccessary. Due to armor buffs to many tanks and new tanks with strong armor that is so strong that not even the strongest gun in the game can pen it the tanks only good thing its penetration becomes weaker and weaker pretty much each patch Since the new he changes should pretty much nerf every he ammo in the game but the good he shells the most the tank should get another nerf very soon giving you really no option to load gold except if 300 damage for 21 sec reload sounds useable to you
i have mine set up with a speed build (bond turbo, bond vents, and bounty rotation, 105 gas and chocolate, along with anything else possible to increase mobility) and it’s an absolute monster, i can swing around corners before people can even think to respond, slam a 420 pen HEAT round through their turret, and turn so fast not even mediums can circle me. definitely my favorite tier 10 to play right now
@@moltensh4dow506 Well would be nice if it wasnt just a peakaboo tank but wargaming wont buff its armor so you can only perform when you cant get hit in return nowadays td gold ammo starts to get neccessary but still i dislike that i need bounty equiptment for it cause you cant grind or even pay to get that bounty equiptment on any tank that needs the op equiptment
This is an old asf thread, but you do realize that the jagpanzer e100 is still one of the best T10 TDs? It's really easy to angle. Just shoot HE on what u can't pen dude. Hide that lower plate and bait shells with sidescraping
In all fictional designs of ww2 and real mbt designs point to the need for a 5000horse power wasp engine or more hp engine and a sensible sized gun either 17 pounder 128 mm or 120 mm pak. Either Allied or Axis vs Soviet Joseph Stalin tanks is a logical development? I think the pershing got the balance correct but the centurion had more growth to the 10.5 cm gun which was also on the sherman m50 so its not impossible for the Allies to of won by simply up gunning their tanks as did the Germans consider emulating with the panther copying m18 tactics with speed and being up gunned to long 75 mm or in panther 2 a 88mm or Speer considering the 10.5 cm suitable for panther 2. Read Joachim Fest.
@@rembramlastname3631 He's most likely right though. Should an assault gun variant have actually entered development (and not be cancelled like it most likely would have eventually) it most definitely would not have looked like the one in game at all. The "Jadgpanzer E-100" is by all respects a fictional vehicle with some real world inspiration.
Lesson: don’t learn history from a game. Reading is fundamental
Wg did a favor of hooking us to search the history of these tanks tbf
@@adyatma1 can confirm, now I have 5 tank books because WoT introduced me to tanks
@@adyatma1 yup the game got me into WW2 and especially tanks
I still like alot of these tanks I'm games. Fictional but fun, in real life though...glad it never happened. There's enough war machines
Thanks Ru!
thanks for clearing things up. in WOT, there is no 'assault gun' category so they are grouped together with TDs in the 'tank destroyer' category. you can use TD's for either application in the game. one thing that the two classes tend to have in common is the turretless design or quite limited turret rotation capabilities.
Seeing a video on the jageroo is really nice, would you do one or the waffentragers?
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I think the Japanese beat WOT. Back in 2000 I picked up a Japanese book on German tank design. The assault gun variant of the E100, the gun was forward mounted as on the Jadpanther with a sub turret with a 20-30 cm anti aircraft gun.
The Krokodil. We'll deal with her as well in the future :)
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT with a SABOT or HEAT round, love the work.
what's the name of the book
@@Neko.Virtual Sorry I could not tell you the name of the book because it is written in Japanese/ Kanji as part of my collection of books from overseas
@@mikeb.5039 it's ok
A chad of a tank
I'm left wondering, why hasn't anyone made a kitbash of a Tiger I Jagdtiger or a StugTiger? Take the Ferdinand or the StuG casemate and plonk it on a Tiger I hull, rather than the King Tiger.
Wow! And literally second! Wish for video about the Abrams tanks soon
Second*
Ah yes models made by scale swapping, and matching turret ring sizes.... FUN. basically take a light SPG turret from a scale up, and put it on the hull of a Super heavy tank in a scale down/ Original scale.
Okay, one shot kills at four kilometres are impressive (assuming the crew could actually hit targets with the first shot every single time). But that thing would be an artillery magnet at best.
@Steve Arthur They don't have to be. Unless you think this thing could have waded through artillery and bombs. You don't even need a hard kill. Either damage the terrain around it or equipment on it. Or deny it and its comrades the ability to resupply.
@Steve Arthur Yes. Strangely enough that would be what the engine, fuel, transmission, tracks, driver etc are for. However as the Germans found out during WW2, artillery can be used to break up attacks and if you don't have control of the skies, you are vulnerable.
@Steve Arthur Tanks do not exist in a vacuum. They need support otherwise they tend to be knocked out with 'relative' ease /Depending on the circumstances of course. I am not saying a tank will lose every time but there is a reason why they don't attack things all by themselves. Instead they usually have infantry support or similar.
You do realise that a pretty common tactic was for aircraft and/or artillery to be called on to targets of interest or stubborn points of resistance? Yes, even Germany did that.
You do realise that aircraft fly right? You do know self propelled guns exist? You do know that artillery pieces can move? You do know that attacks and defence often involve artillery/ tank / infantry support etc? You have seen pictures of tanks disabled by artillery, wither by direct hits / near misses / crew abandoning them / lack of fuel and or ammunition? You do realise that vehicles need fuel to move and ammunition to fight?
Real combat is not like WoT or WT.
I'm sure if Germany had thousands of tanks of this type & the logistics to support it, the war would have dragged on for a bit longer but in the end, it would have been defeated.
Now I've spent way longer replying to you than deserve. Have a nice life.
@Steve Arthur yeah high explosive can kill through solid armor by deforming it and due to the speed a pressure wave that can kill
The effectiveness of Artillery at knocking out tanks is not as well documented as most of us (myself included) have been led to believe
one of my favourite tanks in wotb and wot "did the others exist?"
I remember when WG was testing the Jagdzilla with the 15cm L/63, but the playerbase generally demanded heavy firepower to match up with the Soviet line after so many small(er) caliber/higher pen guns in the line compared to the Soviets
Question for me is... That
Why in E-75 12.8cm/10.5, E-100, Jagdpanzer/Stug E-100 have a Different Muzzle break form the German tank like most of the German tank at the time?
Probably because the recoil was stronger so they would have to redesign the muzzle brake.
I don't know why Brit scrap E-100 hull
Why keep it except for historical value? It was not great war trophy, being a lump of incomplete hull for a vehicle that never ran. It offered little new insight into tank design, making it of little value as a research aid, especially when the British could talk to many of the actual German engineers themselves.
As much as we enthusiasts want all the tanks to be around for us to enjoy, tanks are a military tool, and tools are there to be used. Tanks are dense concentrations of strategic materials like armor steel. If they are no longer useful as weapons, they are always useful being melted down to make new weapons. Really, we should be grateful that any tanks escape the scrapyard.
cause it’s a awesome move
Cause it was useless and they had a Tortoise witch was far more advanced.
@@Paciat tortoise couldn’t even Peirce E-100 in front problably but could be technically penned by the 12,8cm Kwk on shorter rangers
@@startingbark0356 E-100 had no gun. It was under-powered without a turret, and Germans had no better engine to replace the 700HP unit. This is what it was. A big turd. And those arent useful for the military.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/E-100.jpg
The German waffentrager series pls
some games make it looks like a jag panther like the game that will come out soon called “Tank Company” I think it is called the Stug E100 or Stugpanzer E100 or something that had to do with the stug name. It seems interesting…and would seem like a good idea.
The other version was called either Stug E100 or Jadgpanzer E-100 Krokodil, which is Jadgpanther on Steroid
Why not put casemate at center like Jagdiger ?
tanks-encyclopedia.com/15-17-cm-sturmgeschutz-auf-e100-fahrgestell/
Because they did. It is the most accurate design given it is the same thing that happened to the Jagdtiger, and the E-100 is (in concept) just a bigger and more heavily armored Tiger 2.
@tankencyclopedia how tactically would the e100 be used given its speed and weight firepower could a rapid reaction brigades with bridging equipment of made the use of the e100 rationalised and practical?
The Jageru - a mythical beast pulled from the ass of War Gaming.
Remember, never let reality get in the way of making money.....
How do they make money from the jagdpanzer E100.
@@nikoniko9121 Easy!
Play a map with single lines of advance (i.e. almost every city map), making it damn near impossible to penetrate from the front - so you have to use "gold" ammo. That then leaves you with a choice of either paying real money to buy the gold, or play the game at a massive loss (which _then_ leads you to pay real money to buy in game credits).
See the first two minutes of this video - ruclips.net/video/LfxuQidPssY/видео.html
@@matthewwadwell6100 I can see why you would be struggling with the jagdpanzer E100 if you are trying to use it as a heavy tank.
@@nikoniko9121 I gave up before I got that far - the only T10's I got were Russian HT's .
But with such a mediocre gun accuracy, you're not going to be able to sit at range and snipe like you can with the WT E100 or Grille 15.....
@@matthewwadwell6100 yeah, the tank is too big to be used as a TD, I sat in the back of the map and got spotted before everyone else 🤦♀️
The engines name just translates to „new project“ so not exactly a fictional name just a description
Doesn't wargaming have access to secret archives about tanks
fix your mic's static noise
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What are u even doing to need a spaa with the armour of a maus
if that project would be real that would be great but it came out that it was just speculation😢
This tank is very bad in wot and since wargaming does not do the bare minimum in balancing all vehicles in the game to be roughly on the same level its even worse. In particular this vehicle has not been buffed even tho all other german tier 10 have been buffed over time its armor is now the worst of all german tier 10 tanks and its cannon was always infuriating taking long to aim just to miss even tho its accuracy is supposedly good.
Its large damage per shot is only 40 % higher than other tds while its damage per minute is lower than many tanks that arent even tds all in all the tanks only strength is to load gold ammunition (8000 instead of 2000 per shot ) at which point its large penetration of 400 can often compensate for accuracy as a hit at all can be enough to penetrate the enemy unlike the ap ammo where a weakspot hit is neccessary.
Due to armor buffs to many tanks and new tanks with strong armor that is so strong that not even the strongest gun in the game can pen it the tanks only good thing its penetration becomes weaker and weaker pretty much each patch
Since the new he changes should pretty much nerf every he ammo in the game but the good he shells the most the tank should get another nerf very soon giving you really no option to load gold except if 300 damage for 21 sec reload sounds useable to you
all of them are pretty much bad. too muchgold spam. plus it isnt the worst, the worst is the rheinmetall panzerwagn(tier 10 german light)
i have mine set up with a speed build (bond turbo, bond vents, and bounty rotation, 105 gas and chocolate, along with anything else possible to increase mobility) and it’s an absolute monster, i can swing around corners before people can even think to respond, slam a 420 pen HEAT round through their turret, and turn so fast not even mediums can circle me. definitely my favorite tier 10 to play right now
@@moltensh4dow506 Well would be nice if it wasnt just a peakaboo tank but wargaming wont buff its armor so you can only perform when you cant get hit in return nowadays td gold ammo starts to get neccessary but still i dislike that i need bounty equiptment for it cause you cant grind or even pay to get that bounty equiptment on any tank that needs the op equiptment
This is an old asf thread, but you do realize that the jagpanzer e100 is still one of the best T10 TDs? It's really easy to angle. Just shoot HE on what u can't pen dude. Hide that lower plate and bait shells with sidescraping
In all fictional designs of ww2 and real mbt designs point to the need for a 5000horse power wasp engine or more hp engine and a sensible sized gun either 17 pounder 128 mm or 120 mm pak. Either Allied or Axis vs Soviet Joseph Stalin tanks is a logical development? I think the pershing got the balance correct but the centurion had more growth to the 10.5 cm gun which was also on the sherman m50 so its not impossible for the Allies to of won by simply up gunning their tanks as did the Germans consider emulating with the panther copying m18 tactics with speed and being up gunned to long 75 mm or in panther 2 a 88mm or Speer considering the 10.5 cm suitable for panther 2. Read Joachim Fest.
5th?
TD op in wot
this td is very bad like most tds
@@SooSFan true
4th
1st*
Lol fake tank
@@rembramlastname3631 He's most likely right though. Should an assault gun variant have actually entered development (and not be cancelled like it most likely would have eventually) it most definitely would not have looked like the one in game at all. The "Jadgpanzer E-100" is by all respects a fictional vehicle with some real world inspiration.
All pixel tanks arent real.
@@enfield_the_enigmatic2989 well its like the Ferdinand configuration tho
@@Paciat no
@@Paciat only some are made up by wg