CSX Coal Train Hits Rail Joint Fast And Hard Cars Bounce
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- This is a video I made in Dover Florida at the Jerry Smith Road railroad crossing of a CSX Teco coal train cruising along at 50 MPH hitting a rail joint fast and hard causing the knuckles and the cars to bounce as it crosses the road. This needs to be repaired.
Great Video! CSX REALLY needs to fix that because next thing you know, the Tropicana Juice Train or something will Derail there.
PLEASE NO NOT THE JUICE TRAIN
PLEASE NOT THE SANTA FE 8162
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PLEASE NOT UP 1995 IF IT GOES THERE OR AN AMTRAK P40DC/P42DC.
Nice video. I agree csx needs to repair track.
It has a nice beat to it. And plus who doesn't love a bouncing train
The operator for when that train derails.
Logan Smith I thought of the samething.
Logan Smith hey man you saw this video too yes trains are neat
For the record, knowing nothing beyond the video description, I'd have made the responsible decision and been absolutely certain to contact CSX immediately.
I'm a lifelong railfan. I never worked the gig, but I grew up with trains running 50 feet from my back door, down an eight-foot bank. Amazingly, several homes in town are even closer to the tracks. I could never understand the confidence, lack of fear or good judgment, or the dire necessity that led people to build homes so close to such potentially dangerous locations. My small town made the map as a railroad town, and it's seen a few derailments, collisions, severe personal injuries, and a couple of pedestrian fatalities. The town's only a bit over a mile long, too. ; ]
The most major derailment I'm aware of happened literally minutes after I left for work one morning about 25 years ago. Wow. Time flies. Well, I went through the underpass at the bottom of the hill I lived on, as I did daily, and I came home in the afternoon to find it blocked by a boxcar that had fallen 15 or so feet, punched a few deep dents into the pavement, and left a couple of 20,000-pound rolls of paper underneath the trestle. Interesting moment of introspection. This is a hilly area, and one tanker had rolled down a 30-foot western embankment, crossed the third road leading north out of town, and was well on its way down another decline into a fairly robust stream. This, of course, is a speed-restricted area, being within a village.
There wasn't rush-hour-like traffic in town back then, but it's always been fairly bustling, and even these modestly busy roads could have had foot, bike or automobile traffic passing through at a very unfortunate moment. : / Anyway... .
The flexing in this video isn't even at a point of continuity in the modern ribbon rail -- it's at a plated joint, at a crossing grade, on what's obviously fairly open track as suggested by this train's speed. Virtually anywhere in America it's easy to see areas of trackbed that have settled ballast, allowing for sometimes considerable vertical rail flex and lifting of ties, but this has disaster written all over it. How many times can a joint like that, held together with four bolts, sustain that kind of force before failure? With that tonnage, at that speed, it could have broken as this was being filmed. I should read a bit further to see if the uploader ever reported this issue or has an update about its correction. This area of upstate New York is CSX territory, too. I'm sure that it was still Conrail at the time of the little incident I mentioned.
Whoa that's some scary track. One big bounce and BAM! We get a derailment. Hope they fix that. Nice video!
I grew up in a family of railroad personnel. But there are some problems that folks ARE NOT realizing here with blaming the track inspector at not catching this.
#1. Track Inspection vehicles are usually a small pick up truck that drives along the rails.
#2. The track inspector rarely gets out of the inspection truck UNLESS they see something that catches their attention or can feel an issue when the truck passes over the rail that could be a potential problem.
#3. Even though these trucks have rail wheels attached, THEY DO NOT PROPEL the truck along the rails, their RUBBER TIRES do!
#4. Weight of the truck is NO MATCH for a rail car or locomotive, therefore the rail in such a case MAY NOT FLEX under the trucks weight as it does with a train.
And finally, if you are videoing something that even REMOTELY looks like it may derail a train, IT IS and SHOULD BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO INFORM THE RAILROAD of such a POTENTIAL THREAT! Many RR's are very appreciative of this, because they really MAY NOT even be aware there could be an issue.
And if folks call in, there is usually an 800 phone number {on a small placard sign attached} on the crossing signal to call the railroad with issues you may see or experience, such as this, or malfunctioning crossing gates, a rail car that may not be sounding right and could have the potential to derail itself or the entire train.
YOU SHOULD ALWAYS CALL and if you video such things, YOU SHOULD MAKE IT CLEAR that YOU DID CALL ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN!
Otherwise, it makes you look more like a foamer or a brain-dead railfan. I'm sorry, but I call these as I see them when I see videos like this and NO COMMENT FROM THE VIDEOGRAPHER THAT THEY EVEN DID ANYTHING TO GET AN ISSUE THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS FIXED!
I had railroad numbers locked into my cell phone when I used to go out and video trains, I also CALLED ANYTIME I spotted a disaster that could be in the making or crossing signals and gates malfunctioning.
As for this rail joint, it looks to me to be missing the rubber insulator between the rails that sometimes control the crossing signals, there's one before and after jointed rail at most highway crossings{but NOT with welded rail}.
Since there is such a wide gap there, which the flange of a rail car could hit just right and topple a car at the worst scenario at the speed they travel there, chances are it may not topple over, but just end up with the wheels of several cars on the ground on that side of the rail, and usually inside the rail, but they'll still do some damage.
Always think more to the worst scenario here and stay way back from such trains, as rail cars derailing depending on train speed can travel a lot further off those rails than you might think.
I've seen this same type of issue at many locations and, yes, I called it in, sometimes the railroad was already aware of it and told me they were in the process of getting someone out there to check it over and if needed, fix it. And when they didn't, they said Thank You, we'll have someone out there within a few hours to check the issue out.
Most often with an open joint like that before or after a crossing, depending on number of tracks and train travel, they would just insert a new rubber insulator and also, if needed brought in additional ballast and equipment to secure and make sure rail was safe for train travel once the repair was completed.
However, don't expect it to get repaired the same day you report it, it takes time, there are DOT and other channels the railroad has to go through once they locate, see and report on the issue, in some states this may/may not be different, then once all that is cleared up{the paperwork in triplicate{or more}, then they'll start on the repairs.
I worked for the local DOT in my area for a time as a temp, and I used to ask a lot of railroad/highway related questions to the folks that permit repairs like this to start.
I learned just what the railroad has to go through just to get a repair started, so if something isn't done in a day or a week or two, don't blame the railroads, sometimes it's the local DOT holding things up for them. And the DOT regulations DOES NOT always meet the same criteria as the RAILROADS REGULATIONS! Again, this MAY NOT or MAY be the same in other locations, counties, cities or states.
And that's when the issues for the railroad start before they can even start on their repair{s}.
This unfortunately can take anywhere from a few days or several weeks depending on location, whether traffic has to be rerouted while they make the repair, since the crossing at the location may have to be closed off for a day or even longer to correct the problem{s}.
It's NOT anywhere as simple as it may look to the average person or even the average railfan.
YOU MADE SO MANY WORDS
@@percylxe1862 Of course I did, because I EXPLAIN things IN DETAIL! That's so even the average consumer can understand, and comprehend it.
And that does take a LOT of words to make it fully understandable, that way, even a moron could comprehend it.
This causes serious damage to the wheeltires, you should report this to the railroad board
Knowing Millennium force he probably did
I like the way the K5LA train horn sounds like on CSX AC6000CW. Nice Catch Alan Smith
Catchy! I like the squeaking of the rails.
Bad rail they need to get that fixed.
I watched a video about a csx train .a knuckle broke off and thats why the CSX workers NEED to get the rails fixed because a knuckle can break off when it is not expected.
Doesn't look like a bad joint to me, more like bad ballasting. The ballast shifted so much that it left a significantly large space with no support for the railroad ties. This happens quite often at railroad crossings, because of runoff from storms and rain.
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I agree, the leaf springs on the wheel carriages help counter the bouncing. The bouncing looks uniform enough that the cars probably won't de-rail.
As long as a consistent speed is maintained and the bouncing is uniform, I don't see anything bad happening.
and people wonder why csx derails so much
I love your videos 😀
joint actually looks very good if you ask me. but if you look close ballast or rock underneath rails near roadways has washed away. this is Florida which is harsh on rail regulation and roadway regulations. but also has sandstone, quarts, limestone and every rain or storm washes away. i bet this was fixed due to long rail and high speeds.
I got a good chuckle out of your intro, I’m subscribing.
I've never seen a train hit a section of jointed rail like that. It was awesome.
Thank you. It is my favorite to.
Super glue. Mayyyyyybe a little duct tape.
At least
+Trevor Morgan No That will not work it needs ballast and the rails reinforced
+Bigbuddyandblue sorry it wont
Did you hear? That's how they fixed it. 3 cases of super glue and two dozen rolls of duct tape.
It worked!
No bubble gum this time?
I wonder what happens if this doesn't get fixed and if a train derails.
Eventually the weight from all the trains will snap the rail so yea they will derail (trains are my life I know everything about them)
If it is CSX, the crew will be blamed.
Tommy Truth Not the crew, but the track inspector for that area. He will be looking for a new job..
Depending on there investigating criminal charges can be laid. For failure to comply with safety regulations.
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Yea cool video, CSX replaced a lot of ties and welded rail here on the New York to Chicago mainline. I got a vid of the ballast train dumping rocks a couple days ago
That wasn't bad I have seen a lot worse that that where the track goes bang every time the wheel goes over the joint
Dunkirk NewYork seen any Heritage units lately I haven't
tytyjc yes
Wide World of Trains the train can derail
December 26, 2017
That's actually very scary they gonna need to fix that soon because what happens if amtrak crosses the same crossing and derails because of that lives will be hurted. Lucky CSX didn't derail because of that.
Amtrak doesn't use the S-line
Piss poor MOW work, amazing it stayed on the tracks
Now that's what you call a Boxcar Bounce! Hopefully CSX will see this video and fix the track before disaster strikes!!!
Awesome Video Alan!
Jeeze, that rail joint is in bad shape. Im suprised that no train has derailed yet.
Some ballast and a few ties should fix the issue.
Freedomtower Productions , old rail joints can cause derails.
I love your videos!! They are the best train vids I watch you are doing great!!!
I'm amazed that so much of the permanent way you film has ancient wooden sleepers
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Just the good ole boys, havin a dang good time
Looks dangerous. They should fix it soon.
Nice catch of the train! 2 AC6000CWs! That track needs to be fixed!
5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for this video.
That sounds beautiful.
You're right about the rails need repair because sooner or later a train is going get derailed at that crossing.
Another great video by you man, good catch.
Have you reported the conditions to CSX?
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Aren't there leaf springs on the wheel carriages to counter the bouncing? Plus, the bouncing looks uniform enough that the cars probably won't de-rail.
As long as a consistent speed is maintained and the bouncing is uniform, I don't see anything bad happening.
I love that horn!
Good thing the engines and the cars have good suspension (yes trains have suspension)
they need to get that fixed
Whoa !! Great post here
Good point. Cool video.
Tracks in similarly lousy condition to this CSX track near Plant City, FL, also exist on little-used portions of the Union Pacific system. As of 2014, the Martinez-Tracy, CA, line is used only for stowage of spare unit trains; parts of this line are Stop staked, presumably due to serious issues with the roadbed. Hopefully, this line will get a complete rebuild in the next six years, while #4014 is under overhaul at Cheyenne, WY.
actually this is so the train DOESN'T derail. train tracks are designed to bend and give with the weight and speed of the train as well as changes in temperature and changes in terrain. you've got a long heavy train which isn't travelling on a perfectly level surface 100% of the time so something has to give or the train would easily derail.
I like the old bells
Wow! I thought that they were going to derail!
Me too
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HAHAHAHA your intro is top tier bro.
When has any repair been done to this crossing? Or are we waiting for the video of the train bouncing off the track and the consequential clean up and repairs like it usually takes to remedy whats wrong with CSX.
I liked this video, it was interesting to watch
In my town, barely there are no bad tracks.
agreed, poor track maintenance
I miss 2014 so much.
Today is the 10th of October. The Canadian TSB has just announced that a broken rail that started out like this caused a 26 car derailment in Saskatchewan on the 5th of October and that had 2 DOT111 tank cars caught on fire.CN claimed they checked the tracks that morning, Hopefully CSX is better at maintenance than CN and this track has been repaired by the time Alan checks it next time, and there is no derailments.
Actually, it's not that bad. It seems that CSX may have replaced the rail going across the road in the crossing. Just needs some ballast under the ties and the joint welded. There is a crossing here where I live that where water run off causes this too. I told a CSX workman and afterwards, a few days later they had it fixed.
The joint looks like it wasn’t going to derail but the speed for CSX is good
And opening up the envelope, the academy award goes to,,,,,, La La Land!.......No, no, that was politically incorrect, it actually goes to CSX Coal Train!
Awesome video as always!
In the beginning of the video no sound
Nice, Alan, have you had a Copyright strike? no music in the usual intro.
Well, what do you expect they can't even put the crossing signals in straight. You should send a copy of the to CSX head office. All that bounce isn't good for the railbed or the crossing. How many coal trains go over that crossing in week? Nice video Alan. thanks.
Eric Miles, don't be rude.
Call dispatcher and report location and description of problem. That area needs tamping asap
i love your intro lmao
Need to pack the ballast under the track before it breaks and causes a derailment. The crossing looks fairly new but the bed has sunk at that rail joint.
Wow! You should tell CSX about that.
I was seeing that to when I was in a school bus and joints rail
Good for 40 mph. W&LE tracks bounce us all over the place. Just curious how many comments are from railroaders and from foamers.
Now every car has a fair chance of de-railing when clearing the leeward edge of the joint.
Sorry Eric. I have a question though. Why do railroads not use cabooses anymore?! 😕
Did your music get copyrighted? Because it is silent on most videos. Other than that, loving the work Alan :D
Damn those rail needs strict maintenance. They are screaming almost about to break. Show this video to CSX rail maintenance, they can do something.
Nice catch, I'm sure it is repaired by now.
very good
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Let that be a place of business responsibility to fix. Guarantee the railroad would threaten to shutdown their switch if not fixed. But if it's the RR responsibility it's ok
I don't think it will derail but the cars however in the train would bounce crazy
i love this bell
That seems really dangerous. That's a lot of tonnage being tossed around.
The track is supposed to flex some, but I do think that's a bit much. That track need some special attention. It looks as if the trains is gong about 65 miles an hour.
Alright some ac6000 action!
i was like when is this train going to end
do you think the engineer, could feel the bouncing of the cars or not....also did you report it....because I am sure if they brake it would hit the pavement and perhaps derail?
Bertha Martin I'm more than sure the crew spilled their coffee
Surprised the bolts haven't cut through with all of that movement.
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You can really see those cars bouncing over the joint
That looks very unsafe! And what type of camara are you using?!?
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either repairing or add a rail wood board and rail nails and place one there
why are all the crossings getting the electronic bells.
+D. Fortner the railroad says less money to make and replace
+Millenniumforce oh ok then but I must admit the old ones sound better.
Millenniumforce They will probably have a higher failure rate than the mechanical bells.
Millenniumforce it almost derailed
D. Fortner
110! holy shit!
One that’s a really good cold mix job and two CSX someone didn’t tamp that rail right
Wow. Lucky it didn't derail at that speed.
They need to repack the ballast, and cement ties...
good video, just need more ballast underneath and shoring up, CSX wont do nothing uless its real bad. If that train can do 50 to 60mph with ease over that, they wont even bother.
Safety 3rd
A lot of wear and tear on those bolts from the rail moving. Should have seen if you could see shinny metal around the bolts. Then send a copy of it to the Federal Railroad Administration. That way if anything happens because nothing is done people know who all is at fault.You just might save a few lives, and let Big Brother know we are watching them.
Is this the RUclips channel for slow-learning adults?
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If you guys listen to it it sounds like music just make it sound like dub step
Do you know if it's been repaired since this video?
No, the cars don't bounce, the rails pound into the road-bed where only two bolts per side, rather than the three that hole have been drilled for, have been installed on both rails; obvious slack workers have done the joint.
More Ballest needed!! and 2 bolts!!
track looks good for 50