AMD cant fix drivers since 3-4 years, it started with 5700x lasted 2 years, 6000 series card still have microstutters, crashes, they cant fix it since 2 years and the new gen have the same problem xd, people buy amd and call the drivers fine wine but in reality they just need years to fix drivers.
The VR support was fixed. It's not the GPU, everything mentioned was fixable bugs. AMD also just released support for ROCm, which is the alternative to CUDA, including the capability to convert CUDA. The power use also got a fix in the driver. I generally think it's incredibly DUMB to buy new AMD products day one with the early drivers, and also scamming people by making click bait complaints about bugs that get fixed, and never following up about the bug fix. This isn't content that should be taken serious, because it's not professional and just click baiting people with FUD.
Amd still has driver problems. Its like a big hit and mis with amd like some people say it works for them some people hate it. And with my money i would rather pay for a NV gpu. They always just work for me. Never had a driver problem. Now with going with amd its a crap shoot
@@DETERMINOLOGY just name one then. I'm speaking from a perspective where I work with multiple cards from both brands. I can confirm that Nvidia has taken the piss with some of the mid to high end 4000 series drivers (we don't work with lower end so I wouldn't know there). Nothing deal breaking but the issues are there. AMD at this date and time is by far more proactive with fixing it's issues as opposed to it's competition. Intel is covering more ground than the both of them, but that's probably because they started off with more problems. So name one. Just one bug that AMD has today that could warrant a change over to team green. I'll wait.
I have serious doubts toward anyone who says he returned an AMD GPU because of "stability and driver issues". I've been using my 6600 XT for the past six months and it's been flawless. I think he just made up an excuse in his own mind because he wanted an Nvidia card.
Lmao, chill, I've built a lot of PCs over the years for customers and friends 9/10 times there was issues with a GPU, it was AMD. Whether it was the driver not wanting to install, drivers resetting settings, etc.
So you're comparing a 6600XT to a 7900XTX? even though they're completely different architecture wise?, for starters one is chiplets (the first one ever) and the other is a normal monolithic die. Everybody knows *the 7000 series has severe driver and stability issues,* even AMD does, is not a secret or something "made up" you can't compare the 6000 series to the 7000 series at all, after all the 6000 series has had 2 years of drivers and are stable, the 7000 series has not. This weird denial fanboyism isn't healthy.
Nothing wrong with AMD. You have to know what your doing. Running 7900 XTX Gigabyte on a 3900X using a X570 motherboard. I have CSM disabled (All hard drives on GPT so UEFI works), UEFI WIN 11 active, Resize BAR, and Above 4G Encoding enabled (This enables and GPU Smart Access Memory).
@@LeegallyBliindLOL Lmao, chill, I've built a lot of PCs over the years for customers and friends 9/10 times there was issues with a GPU, it was Nvidia. They've caught fire or burned up two generations now.
AMD has done a lot to bring value back to the GPU market. I think their cards favor patient builders. Nvidia is usually out of the box ready to go, but this time around I'm not really sold on the extreme premiums Nvidia is asking. We've all repeated the same thing. But at like $850 for a partner 4070ti with that 12gb GDDR6X and low memory bandwidth. The 4080 and 4090 are the cards that really matter, but I feel like the 50 series will be much the same but they'll be giving us 16gb or 20gb on the cards to suddenly make Nvidia look like the leader again. That's why the 40 series has such low VRAM at the lower end. They want to sell you 4080 and up, and the 4070Ti in 3 years isn't going to be chugging along in 4k high refresh or even 1440p. I'm just gonna wait for the next generation of cards.
@@garryli2030 Try? They did.. anyone that bought a 40 series got ripped off. They were way over priced. Has nothing what so ever to do with " I have the money I don't care". They our right tried to say they they had TWO 4080's.
Nvidia is cheap because you get a full working year extra for the price. The first year. And that`s why you buy it, is it not. Besides AMD just never seems to work in productivity.
Your false comparison to 2060 super are just a lie. at 3:52 you are showing the 3080 and 7900 xtx are almost precisely the same in VR performance. So I really think you're a drama queen saying its like a 2060 super.
I"m running the white powercolor version and absolutely love it, should be set for the next 7 years or so. Concerned at first with the power usage but down to 6-9W idle with the most recent 23.72 drivers.
@@jmangames5562 it wasnt a bad amd good nvidia post. don't get me wrong. i really liked my 7900xtx nitro. The problem was really the power usage. On idle with 2 monitors i had 110watt without doing anything. in games i had 450 watt. with 0,4€ per kwh in germany thats a no go for me. The game feeling and adrenalin was clear better. but i got a 4080 for 50€ less than the amd so i returned it. now i have in the same games without dlss (because i think it looks bad) the same fps but for example in bg3 only 140watt instead of ~400watt capped at 120 fps. if amd gets this idle bug right i will swap next gen.
I have been thinking about getting this exact gpu, however I have heard there is some extreme coil whine with it? Is it really as bad as some others have stated?
AMD fanboys be like; "But you can just re-paste the card! You can run these third-party programs to patch AMDs firmware! You can just roll back to old drivers if they break! Give them eighteen months, all these issues will be fixed!" I've been using AMD since 2019 as well. 5700xt to 6700xt (current). Driver issues have always been an issue, and I really don't expect that to change. Simultaneously using an Nvidia GPU on my secondary PC, I've yet to have any meaningful issues with drivers. My next build will absolutely have an Nvidia GPU in it. The whole "AMD Fine Wine" longevity gimmick is a double-edged sword, in that you have a 'functioning' graphics card for 6+ years- but you're also spending those years in a love/hate relationship with your PC because of the sporadic issues that seemingly pop-up at least once a month.
If you have to buy a High End GPU right now consider the 6900/6950XT, the 2 years I have owned my 6900XT its done nothing but get better and better. I've seen the XFX and AsRock 6950xt going for about 660 US and they average about 90% of the performance of the 800+ dollar cards. I would just skip this generation all together unless prices come way down.
I picked up the 6950 XT red devil open box for $571 and its amazing. I found an open box for a Asrock 7900 XTX for $873 and still in the exchange window, should I and would it be much faster?
I ended up exchanging the 6950 XT for a 7900 XTX and it was a huge improvement. BUT I exchanged the 7900 XTX to a 4090 FE and it was a night and day difference.
If you are p8ck8ng cards based on raytraycing you are a fool. Raytraicing IS NOT where it should be. Most of the games perform like crap on low raytracing... games are not optimizing for that crap. In 10 years, maybe tech will be advanced enough to have a decent Raytraicing performance. Till then majority of people game with raytracing off. It's just a fact.
I just got my rx 7900xtx and I am in love with it and I got it open box in excellent condition with a 1 year warranty for only 590 dollars and believe me all the problems you mention no longer exist!! She is an excellent GPU that by activating FSR3 and generation of photoramas I go to 500 fps in Warzone!!! wow you should follow your video!!! To clarify, I ventured into the PC world with my 1080ti, beautiful GPU, I still collect it. After that, I bought a 2060, super very good GPU, but for my Nvidia, it started to annoy my life and break my head when I got my 3070, there were errors in drivers, stutters in games. but what I hated the most was when I made the jump to 4070, pfffff, I hated it with all my heart, problems in games, problems in obs, I didn't play for 1 month because I thought my PC had died, I bought the 4070 on day 0 and I said well, maybe it's Driver problem is a new GPU, well it took 6 months to sell it because nothing that was solved lasted 2 months without playing until I made the jump to a 4070ti and the problem was half solved by this point I had already changed the processor board for a better power supply Because I thought it was wrong, I even changed my old Samsung SSDs for 7500mb/s Samsung NVME and nothing solved the problem. The PC worked like a champ for 2 months and after updating drivers, the PC broke again, with everything and ready. to give up the PC I sold my 4070ti for 500 dollars and I kept quiet about an offer of a 7900xtx merc 310 black edition for 590 dollars and I said I'll give amd a chance and one last chance for me to be able to play and believe me everything is solved I'm not complaining about nothing, everything works super well!!!
yea I'm about to return mine because it's overheating though :D the cooling performance degrades rapidly. My card is 8 months old. Hotspot was 85°C in furmark when I got it, right now it's 106°C.
Makes a video explaining his imaturity lool typical nvidia fanboy. The XTX will age like fine wine continue to get better and has 8gb more vram then your 4080 plus smokes it in rater frames in 90% of games. fsr 3 is coming also and will aim to compete with dlss 3.5 if your into fake frames and paying more for them.
I love my 7900xtx no issues , working great, and so glad I finally went team read. My 820 dollar 3070ti 8 gb evga ftw3 is complete trash compared to this 999 7900 xtx powercolor hell hound with 24 GB memory. IT RIPS through games and gives me butter smooth quest 2 vr... unlike the stuttery mess the 3070ti gave me. I love the occulus link cable.
you just compared a 3070 ti to a 7900xtx, comparing a previous gen mid level gpu to a top level current gen gpu? ok AMD cultist, cool story bro...nice inflation on that 3070 ti price too 😜
We get really screwed with VAT here, bought an 7900 xt have had some crashes but no bsod yet. A 4070ti is more expensive by 200$ and dont even ask ab the 4080 800$ more expensive than the new 7900xt i got, i was team green for so long after a bad experience with AMD gpu back in the day, im just not willing to shell out so much on a gpu under no circumstance, a 1800k$ gaming gpu shouldnt have a right to exist.
I almost bought the XFX, but went with the ASRock Taichi 7900XTX, and so far it has been okay. I've had some game crashes, but I'm constantly overclocking and undervolting so those could be on me. When I run the card on stock settings it doesn't crash. But I love tweaking my system even if it only garners me 5% more performance. The main issue I've had is screen flicker in windows. When changing tabs and doing things within a browser the screen will flicker really fast. Like a single frame flicker. It isn't a constant flicker, but just a random one here and there, and it only seems to happen when I interact with the browser. I haven't had this in games though. It is a power hungry card, especially when overclocking it above 3000Mhz. It will have spikes up to 550w, with averages in the upper 300's. All in all I can't complain. I considered the 4080, and was very close to getting one, but I game at 1440p UW, don't use VR, and don't care about RT, so I went with the 7900XTX for the extra rasterization performance.
Extra rasterization?. It is barely faster. In newer games im seeing 4080 is doing better even in raster. Dont care about rt? Y do u care about rasterization also? A lot of the settings hardly make any difference. Rt reflections, gi make a huge difference to visuals. Furthermore dlss upscaling is way better than fsr upscaling. Dlss frame gen is also super helpful. Theres absolutely no point in buying 7900xtx unless u only play cod
@@anuzahyder7185 I don't use upscaling because the image quality is degraded too much even on quality settings. The 7900xtx is definitely faster in most games @1440p which is what I play at. Yes RT makes a big difference, but when enabled it drops the fps too much even on a 4080 so I have no use for it. I don't like playing anything with less than 100fps, and really 150+ is ideal. Also, the 24GB of VRAM is going to hold up in the long term better than 16GB.
Most of the issues you brought up have been resolved as far as I can tell now and it's $950 USD or less now. You definately were a victim of early adoption sadly which really should not happen in 2023. AMD you know better than to release with issues! Oh well they are mostly addressed now. Streaming works great, video editing works with Davinci and Adobe great (HUB confirms), VR is fixed based on several videos last few months, high idle power fixed. These should have been non issues from day 1.
And this is why Nvidia owns 80% of the gpu market! It is not always just about frame rates but the seamless trouble free operation in so many scenarios where Nvidia is just plain dominant over AMD gpu's.
No it's not NVIDIA dominate because of there history and brand not because they always have the best (apple for example are the biggest phone company in the world they don't make the best phones just because a company has the most market share doesn't mean they make the best) people are real quick to forget the whole 20 series of cards and the 40 series is a 30 series refresh. The guy didn't do a fresh install when changing GPU if you switch from NVIDIA to AMD you have to wipe all the NVIDIA drivers off the system before replacing it with the AMD card. But if you want the best you go rtx 4090 if you're looking for the best bang for your buck you go AMD.
@@nathanconnolly395 You stated it yourself "if you want the best you go rtx 4090 " and then " if you're looking for the best bang for your buck you go AMD." Bang for the buck products cost less but do NOT offer the performance of the top products in the market, this is exactly why Nvidia owns the market share they do, they overall build a better GPU that just works better overall which includes features than AMD. Saying otherwise is just wrong, AMD barely is competing with Nvidia currently with Nvidias 2nd tier cards much less the top tier.
@@billwiley7216 not true the Rx 7900 xtx out performs the rtx 4080 the only card that NVIDIA have that out performs the Rx 7900 xtx is the rtx 4090 the only reason to buy NVIDIA over AMD is if you are a video editor or you stream for the vast majority of gamers AMD are better it's just facts look at the data and you'll come to the same conclusion I do find it strange you ignored the fact that the 40 series can't even be categorised as a refresh that's how bad the performance uplift was from the 30 series and how NVIDIA tried to gaslight everyone into thinking 12gb was good enough for a 70ti class card released in 2023 which was crazy.
Seriously, thank you. I believe a lot of what you said isn't being talked about with reviewers and it really annoys me that I did have to spend hours worth of research just to get VR performance and productivity. I almost bought an XTX until I found like the only Unreal Engine development benchmark, Which was barely beating the 2080 Ti. Honestly, I think that I, a consumer, spending over thousand dollars on a GPU shouldn't have a lot of the XTXs issues. Then, waiting for several months worth of driver updates in hopes that these issues are solved. I bought a 4090 for 3D work loads and yet to have any crashes. I would have been angry too if I went with AMD just to find out it can't work loads.
Great video, just note that the 7900XTX significantly beats the 4090 in war-zone and even the 7900XT is faster than the 4090, but this may change in the future and is a major outlier. I'm thinking of replacing my 3080Ti with this GPU once drivers mature enough, but I will wait for a good deal first. I'm not in a rush.
Breh... I have same 3080ti... to gain maybe "few" FPS and spend another 300€+ to get new one after you sell 3080ti... not worth... wait 5000/6000 rtx series or 8000/9000 xtx
@@dawienel1142 obviously, those people don't know what their are doing. F chasers showed these gpu st literally best hw you can get for warzone, check those numbers there. And i say that as a 5800x3d /7900 xtx owner. Not to mention there are locations on the big map where 7900 xtx drops from 220+ to 100 fps because card stops working in those locations lmaoo // Oh my bad, you said hardware unboxed lmao, thats explains it all. Always the dudes that dont know what theire doing 😂😂
You're using streamblabs, which is always late for obs updates, using hevc when you've bought a card with first gen hardware av1 encoder and expecting it not to crash.
Sadly none of the new gen cards are worth the money they cost right now. And if enough people refuse to buy them we will eventually see the prices drop
If your 7900XTX is running hot, change your fan curve. The default is a very low speed. I’ve had mine give a GPU hot warning in MW2 until I change my fan curve. It’s unfortunate, but a nature of the beast. Otherwise I’ve had no issues with mine.
Imagine having to do extra steps out of the box 😂 thank god I sold my 6800xt shit was 105 on hot spot maxed out rt in cp2077 4090 GANG NOW also I’m playing maxed out rt 4k 160 hz and the 4090 stats at 70c 😂 so much of a beast running cooler then your beast
@@minhnguyen96 that's odd I have a 6800xt and play cp2077 ultra setting not useing rt 1440p ultrawide never goes above 70c but then again I'm useing a 4000d corsair pc case
@@Vanity7k I noticed that you didn't mention tuning the card. For whatever reason they have the voltage set too high. You should be able to run stable at 1040 mvs with that particular card. The memory should be stable at 2750 and set the max core frequency to 3100 MHz . It can get to 3200 but it introduces instability. Decreasing the voltage won't reduce the power draw but it will markedly improve the performance. The only way to reduce the power draw is to limit it in Adrenaline or lower the max core frequency. You shouldn't be having artifacts. I never did.
So many comments with people "tinkering" settings and using 3rd party software to get the amd card to work as intended, drivers are still an issue it seems based on the comments. 😐
"again, this looks way worse in headset" need not be said. If I experienced that ONCE in any of my games I'd consider tossing the 7900xtx out! I am someone who really appreciates immersion and good image quality, I am all about that. Good sound and good image quality. I am the type of person who likes to look at views and have my breath taken away, and if any AMD card can't do that for me, It's a no-go. I did have a 5700xt which I believed to be faulty, It was the biggest headache for 2 weeks as I couldn't even run games and videos at the same time!!
Nvida as inferior to AMD the 7900xtx is an Absolut beast of a card and blows the the 4090 away if you have a proper build , also the 7900xtx is a dedicated gaming card , AMD makes this known thats why they have a card that is specifically built for video editing its called the AMD Radeon Pro W7900 . I have 7900xtx and it out preforms the 4090 in every game I play , but then I have proper build that is only reliant on one component , as its the whole system that dictates how good your gaming performance will be not just one component , I tried the 4090 in my system ( which is a proper build and I spared no expense and got the best of the best components ) and it was total crap less FPS on every game I played , the 7900xtx preformed 30% better , anyway raytracing gimmick at best.
Let’s not forget the RTX 4080/16GB is still a cut down xx80 GPU. And only has 256 bit memory bus. For xx80 class card that make no sense at its high price. When normally they at least 320 bit bus or more for xx80 class GPUs. Amd has always struggled at getting good stable drivers out. Hopefully they continue to improve. RDNA 3 imo was bit of letdown. They have improved over RDNA2, but imo it feels RDNA3 was more of RDNA 2+ refresh. RTX 4xxx was a joke consider they all cut down version except the 4090 at high premier price.
Don’t kid yourself, the 4090 is cut down as well. Every gpu in the 40 series is one tier higher than they should be. Sooner or later nvidia will launch the 4090 ti or super with the full fat Lovelace die we should have gotten with the original 4090.
i was in a similar debate after all the issues i had to sort just to get that exact XFX 7900xtx to even work properly.. not to mention the VR driving/racing games i play not even loading and getting driver time out errors every time.. gpu driver somehow locking my ryzen cpu at 1.4v making it idle at 65-70c.. blah blah.. if i pulled one more strand of hair out i was going to send it back and just eat it paying out the rear for a 4090 since i already was at the point if im spending this much im buying the best they offer.. since prices are only going to keep going up with each gen.. needless to say i got things sorted with the 7900xtx and it's an absolute beast on assetto corsa with the graphics settings maxxed out in a full lobby of modded cars online which blew my mind.. like WOW the upgrade from my 5700xt which preformed almost identical to your 2060S is just insane. plus the temps! this xfx runs so cool even under load in the vr sim titles i play it rarely goes over 55c compared to my gigabyte gaming oc(rev.2) triple fan 5700xt seeing mid 80c temps. i also knew about the subpar VR performance prior but figured oh they'll drop a driver fix soon enough.. well they still need to, but for my use case it's getting the job done as expected and i can only hope as the saying goes with amd cards/drivers- it'll age like fine wine. also- i'm running this card on a 10 year old evga 850 G2 with 3 separate 8 to 6+2 pin connectors on an AM4 build. i've been able to overclock without power draw being an issue aswell, but for the sake of longevity i'll keep it at factory settings with just the fan curve edited like my 5700xt.
Assetto Corsa is one of the very few games that runs good on the 7900XTX when in VR, it's actually close to the 4080 and is superior to the 6950XT, so it's like it should be, but the issue is that this should be the normal in all VR games, instead in others it runs them at 50-80% slower than a 4080 and even a 6950XT surpasses it or is close most of the time. It's embarrassing and sad.
RDNA3 has turned out to be a total shit show. I sold my 6700XT and purchased a 6900XT for an amazing price of £575. I'm going to skip RDNA3. I will buy RDNA4 instead.
I'm 2 mins into this video and this guy was literally in the exact position I'm in now. I've got $1000 saved up so far and I'm trynna figure out whether I should go with the 7900XTX or 4080. There's some pros and cons with going either route, but I'm most def leaning more towards buying the 4080. We'll see... I got about a week before I've saved up enough
I wanted to get the 7900xtx originaly. After seeing that the factory water blocked versions were the same price as the 4080 water blocked versions, and most of my high competitive games use DLSS, I went with the 4080. Don't regret it one bit, they're both beasts. Even if the 4080 is a little more price wise, you still get a lot of support in modern games in terms of RTX and DLSS. Stability as well in pretty solid on the 4080 (at launch atkeast). Unless your a video editor/ graphic designer who needs the extra 8 more gigs of VRAM, get the 4080.
I got my XFX 7900 Merc310 Black this week for $999, and didn't have a single problem so far. Also no coil whine or overheating what-so-ever due to custom curves. And factor for me was the pricing of Greedvidia. 1,200 for 4080 (in my country it's more like 1,400) was too much asking price, even tho previously I only had Geforces. So that's my story 😊
so the thing about this card and amd in general, is you actually need to know what you are doing to own one of these cards, I'd recommend doing a little more research as you may find you are one of very few experiencing any of these issues and it's more likely an issue in your setup.
Great video man. I too bought 7900xtx, it is my first time having amd card, and i am not very happy with that First 2 days my gpu was crashing very hard, blue screen here and there, that made me really regret moving to amd, try to fix evreything from bios and it worked, but as life goes on u fix one thing and break onother, i updated my gpu and my windows crashed, reinstall windows. Then i install game pass pc, out of 10 games i downloaded amd recognize one, monster hunter and it think it is resident evil ,they even got the wrong name, these issues never happened to me on nivida cards and i think nividia makes you life easier, amd needs to step up thier game to get to a point where they please evreyone, i don't care about RT or VR and i am still affected by my experince with amd.
Get rid off it as fast as possible. The problems Will persist. Or they Will last a long time. Thats amd. The payed reviewers Will never tell you that. Because they are bought.
I had none pal... NONE. Did you DDU your install for the AMD card? Probably not... here you go. Another tech illete3rate who can't install drivers properly. Safe Mode --> DDU --> Unplug Ethernet --> Restart and Install --> FFS... noobs everywhere
AMD were shooting their mouth off that RDNA3 is 1.7x more performant than RDNA2, but if you look at the benchmarks for the 7900XT it is only 15-20% faster than the 6900XT.
@@Bunta1987qwerty Its just the 7000 Series that have Major issues with VR at the moment. The 6900 XT ist often faster than the 7900XTX in VR. People in the AMD Forums are gathering Informations. - Wireless VR Headsets seem to have issues with clarity - Enabling any AA in VR can quickly turn down the performace over 50% - MWR Headsets seem to have uniquie different Issues... I also was juust about to order the XTX, when I found out about the VR Issues... I really want at least 20 gb of VRAM but not want to spend much more than a grand for it... For now I think I wait with my 5700xt and get a 7800x3d first. Hoping they might have fixed their stuff until then.
I hope AMD stops making video card so we can all pay $1500 for an RTX 4050 4GB. i'll just stop playing games all together and laugh at you all going without food for Nvidia.
Update bios? Remove all nvidia drivers? Would probably have fixed the issues not sure haven't had amd yet but ive been strongly considering it for the future league vanguard killed my 2080
I have never really had any of these issues with amd I must just be l lucky I ran a hd 7970 cross fire then a fury fallowed by a Vega 56 n now a 6800 xt son always been Nvidia he's now on amd too 6700 xt other son still on gtx 1080 fingers crossed 🤞 they sort it for people having them 🤞
My first ever pc had a 380x, at the time it ran well for 1080p 60fps gaming. But since then all my cards have been Nvidia. But i buy all my Nvidia cards used and saved 100s of dollars over the years
The "finewine" argument doesn't hold any water with me. I don't care if the card becomes stable and beats the same-gen nvidia card after 3 years of driver updates. I'm buying the card now, and in 3 years, I'll have upgraded already.
Was a proud owner of rx 5700XT ... Check this out, at that time Assassins creed odyssey was my go to game and i couldnt play the dlc because an AMD card would just get stuck at the intro and checked on reddit, people had the same error for a year. Didnt play what i paid for cuz 5700XT. Then rx 6900xt, perfect card actually. Just one issue - exceed power limit slightly or play something like cyberpunk ...crash. Oh is that scene intense, why are you copying and downloading at the same time = crash. At the release of rtx 4000 series, i just had to get an rtx 3090ti and i have never....i repeat never had any of the above issues at all. Two cards had issues but i stayed with them and thought it was the norm until now.
Good & honest video. I've always used Nvidia cards and supported them... Lately though, their pricing is ridiculous on high end. Things like RT/VR/Rendering Apps aren't a big deal to me so I don't feel the price gap is worth it. Anyways thanks for your effort into this video I appreciate it!
VR is a big reason why I need a GPU which costs at least a grand. AMD once again disappoints! It is just RTX 4080 is priced very badly. It needs to be 200 dollars less while current pricing should be taken by RTX 4080 Ti. I would buy RTX 4080 Ti for current day RTX 4080 price.
I’ve been at Nvidia fan for a long time. But was thinking about switching to AMD cards because of the price. Paying $1500 for my 3080 TI is ridiculous. but I’m glad I watch this video. I will stick with Nvidia cards for the stability.
Its not a gimmick, but how its been implemented can be considered gimmicky. Raytracing is just another name for Path Tracing, which is the method we use for professional renders in arch visualization, movies, game cinematics...etc. It actually cuts down on development time, where as baking everything down is time consuming and requires more "tricks" to give the illusion of a path traced render. It kills framerates because its doing a lot more computations. This in turn forces hardware makers to push better hardware, otherwise they don't have as much incentive to push it more than they need to.
While i have a 4090 i also have plenty of amd gpu’s. The 5700xt had some small issues at first but its been perfect for years on my end. But I haven’t had much problem with either nvidia or amd just a couple black screen crashes with the xt at first. I think amd’s cpu division is much stronger than its radeon gpu division. I wrote this before watching so Im wondering if you had the bad driver that messed with windows 11 with your xtx. (Gonna watch now)
So apparently the driver issue was caused by updating amd drivers while a windows update was going on in the background. This has caused bricking and instability.
@@LudwigHorsecock Ye they are aware of this and now when you try updating the AMD Drivers it won't allow you to select the "Factory Reset" option as this is what caused the bricking of OS's
My experience... because you sir, know how to handle your hardware and maintain your OS with their drivers... but some people on the internet clearly dont... like the maker of this video.
I'm into flightsims and wanted to upgrade to Intel's latest NUC that supports discreet GPUs, so my requirements were: Max 750W, tons of VRAM, high-end GPU, must fit in the NUC. Due to the power draw I bought the 7900 XT and not the XTX. I am very happy with my choice and the performance. I'm 'VR-curious', but not in a rush so I'm pretty OK at the moment. VR in DCS with out-of-the-box-settings (SteamVR and all that jazz) was not good, so later down the line I'll try again. Check the settings, use OpenXR and stuff like that. But for now with my ultra-wide screen and TrackIR I'm more than happy.
Every reviewer in existence : I've tested the ** Every reviewer in existence 1 month afterwards : I ended up returning it and buying a ** but still gyus, BUY AMD, it KICKS ASS ! It's just...not for me... BUT IT KICK ASSES I SWEAR ! Every reviewer each and every year : WHY NVIDIA GPU KEEPS GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE ?????!!!!!111!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1 People should buy AMD GPUs more, Nvidia greed is out of control !
I just got this exact card for $999 with free 5 month payment plan on Amazon. I don’t do VR or productivity so that won’t be an issue. Hoping I don’t get bit with idle power draw, tho it also looks like under volting these cards drastically lowers the power consumption while not hurting performance too much. Guess we’ll see, assuming I can get the thing into my case. Case spec says: This chassis fits full length standard ATX power supply, two large CPU/GPU liquid coolers up to 240/280 mm, and long graphics card length up to 345 mm (with front 20 cm fan removed). GPU spec says: 13.54 x 5.04 x 2.24 inches, (and my case has the motherboard flat horizontal so the GPU sits vertical and I won’t need the bracket.) Google says: 345 millimeters = 13.583 inches So it should fit with 0.04” to spare… gonna be a tight fit (that’s what she said).
@@Vanity7k - I don’t think wires will be an issue since the cables plug into the top which is not the tight fit dimension. My first worry is twisting it in. My second worry is that those measurements aren’t apples to apples on how they were taken because I have no margin for error. Hopefully will find out this weekend when I have time to swap the PSU and put it in.
@@Vanity7k whelp…. It didn’t fit. But it didn’t end too badly. I had a new gpu (kind of the point), and had to upgrade the PSU anyway because the old one was “only” 600 watt, so I had that, and I now have to buy a new case, and I had an SSD laying around, so I ended up just selling the old computer with old GPU to a friend for “close enough” to what it’s gonna cost to replace my amd 3950x/b550/128gb ddr4 with an amd 7950x/x760e/128gb ddr5. So now to wait for the Amazon fairy (again), and do some part swapping (I am keeping my data drives and the rgb hardware so I do still have to pull some stuff out of the old system).
Used AMD, they have so many driver issues / qc issues. I bought a 5700xt thing was terrible. Even if on paper the nvidia cards aren't cost effective the quality of life is superior. I can't tell you how many things I did only to never resolve my issues with the card. You did the right thing by returning.
That's probably the only bad amd gpu in recent history. If one experience dictates what you buy then that's on you. Keep supporting a company that rips you off.
huge regret with this card. Driver issues making the card unusable even for light tasks on a flagship model even months after release is ridiculous, not happy with my expensive paperweight.
I have a 7900xt(not xtx) and it is great at everything it just has a slight annoying coil whine. Haven't used VR. Even ray tracing i still got high FPS while using it.
I'm prepared to cut AMD some slack, I'd be gobbed smacked if 30% of the buggy behaviour isn't due to coders not being overly familiar the quirks (all coding stacks have them) of the AMD driver stack, whereas Nvidia dominance for the last decade (and not always by fair means) means by default they get the best compatibly testing, and that Devs are well versed in the bug and performance quirks of Nvidia dev/driver stack. IT Hardware is one of few IT areas where an (mega) underdog (AMD - still a multi billion dollar company) still stands a chance in competing, I know it sounds hard to believe at ~$1000, but we are lucky the 7900XTX exist, as I'm pretty sure XTX hardware despite is smaller chip die size, costs more to make with its 8GB more VRAM for less than competition. If it wasn't for the XTX the RTX 4080 would probably be $2000 and the 4070 Super etc would still be "sporting" 12GB RAM (anything but 16GB for longevity).
even if you dont do that, terrible drivers and high temps/power usage will be issue, trust me i had amd gpus in past, its nightmare you always afraid of new drivers, but you need to instal them cause older ones has issues that are as old as amd itself... just pay 5 -10% more for nvidia and relax dont care about drivers issues etc
@@NostalgicMem0ries "terrible drivers" We still doing that song and dance? I have it for around 3 months now after being a nvidia user for 10 years... what terrible drivers are you on about?
@@NostalgicMem0ries Maybe if you took your head out of the sand, or your ass. You would realise AMD's normal driver issues are not prevalent in the new lineup.
I waited out the bug fixes with OBS and AMD Drivers. Now the 7900XTX wipes the floor with the 4080 and in most titles, beats the 4090. UR 5.2 will make Ray tracing Obsolete soon anyways, so i do not even consider RT performance. I wished I had waited for the 8000 series as it is going to have massive 50%+ gains over the 7000 series due to an all new architecture. Higher density CCD's and more efficient CCX's with stacked cache.. NVidia will not be able to compete in performance and will flat out lose in price. Not a theory, just facts in Manufacturing limitations.
I wrote elsewhere about my experiences with my laptops that have both AMD and nVidia gpus, and there were those guys who vehemently wanted to convince me that I must be mistaken or that I didn't know of which I was talking... It was my experiences since 2020 and I always have problems installing AMD drivers and have to restart everything for it to recognize the drivers. Just installed the newest nVidia drivers: didn't even need to re-start my laptop and no problems during installation.
Well, I've used ATI/AMDs cards since forever and have had no real issues with them. My 3070 gives me BSOD (had 2 today), drivers crashes and some other sh*t I'm tired about. Even the GeForce Experience is pretty bad. Does it mean my experience with Nvidia means they are all the same and eveyone else will have the same problems as I have? No. But all brands have their quote of issues as I know.
I owned all the RDNAs GPUs from AMD... I had ZERO issues. And yeah, all of the time people are mentioning AMD drivers, they are usually shill or tech illiterates.
@@NostalgicMem0ries Oh god, a kid who knows nothing about hardware/systems tells me what should I do. I've been assembling/using PC before they where even AT. Do you know what that is? Go google it.
I have a 6800xt that would only work for non Nvidia games. EVERY game that was Nvidia sponsored (like metro exodus, cp2077, control) the card would black screen within a few minutes of loading into the game world. Not to mention poor performance in VR with Q2. I switched to the 3080ti a few months before the 40’s launched 😢 The 6800xt is sitting on a shelf collecting dust Now I’m really wanting to upgrade to either the 4090,4080, or 7900xtx so I can play the new CP2077 expansion with RT overdrive at 4k 60 or in VR with Luke Ross’s AER mod bit that would likely require the 4090😢 BabelTech Reviews said the XTX was pretty poor performing compared to the top 40 cards when it launched but planned to revisit it later after drivers had matured. Im also on a 5600x cpu😕
Imagine spending $1000+ on a GPU and having to deal with all these issues. If you're going to buy a new GPU you might as well pay a bit extra and not have to deal with issues all the time.
WHY PEOPLE STILL BUY AMD IS BEYOND ME YES ITS CHEAPER BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING IF THERE ARE ISSUE AFTER ISSUE. THEY ARENT NVIDIA AND NEVER WILL BE BUT KEEP THE FAITH.
I’m building my first pc next month after the 7800x3D releases, I don’t play VR, I’m not interested in ray tracing and the only things I do are play games, emulate games on RPCS3 (PS3) and Yuzu (Switch) would you recommend the 7900 XTX or the 4080, would like to save a few hundred if i can
Definitely the 7900 XTX in that case. Apparently some people also have issues with the 4080 drivers, but I haven’t had any issues at all with the 4080. If you’re on the fence, I just uploaded a 4080 review.
@@Vanity7k in the latest nvidia driver there is a bug that consume cpu resource after you cosle a game or after boot the system... check task manager nvidia container process
Just ordered everything for my 7950x3d - 7900 xtx build. My first time away from Nvidia, hopefully it’s a good card people need to start voting with their wallets Nvidia is getting out of hand.
Bought a 7900XTX ASROCK 1200$ Black and white screen/constant crashing MW2 Have done fresh windows everything possible drivers in and out. Total garbage, returning and getting a 4090.
I got the xtx as well. I played with it for a couple of weeks but never pulled out my oculus. Refunded it for a 4080, played with it for 3 weeks, refunded it for a 4090. Sad thing is now I have nothing to upgrade it to lol. I need another hobby 😂
I had the same kinda experience with amd, got a 5700 xt back on release, had loads of issues crashes driver problems, returned it and went back to Nvidia, had many cards since then all Nvidia cards no problems, just had a 6700 xt back to having issues straight away, returned it and got a used 3090 founders edition for 650, no problems at all again, I'll stick with the team that's given me no issues, sad cause amd is good value for money but too many issues.
@@JBrinx18 Random black screen lock ups, crashes when tabbing out of games, drivers randomly just resetting to default settings removing custom fan curve or undervolts, that's on latest drivers wether I was using custom gpu settings or completely default, now had my 3090 for a week not a single issue with my pc at all.
@@UlrichLeland I do remember some custom fan curves resetting on me, and some restoration to default settings on an overclock. Once I stopped messing with those haven't had any issues. The two things on the 3090 that worried me from getting it was the lack of freesync over HDMI, since I plug it into a 4k 120Hz TV, and the high power spikes, which was reported to have issues on my particular 750w power supply. Sorry to hear about your crashes and black screen issues though, sounds crappy
@@JBrinx18 It's annoying, fan curves and overclocking are supposed to be features that you can use without it breaking the drivers, I had those problems regardless of changing anything though, my 3090 just works as I expect it to, overclocking or not, as for the high power spikes, I have mine undervolted to 0.900 MV, power limit maxxed out and memory overclocked by 700 mhz, max power i've seen from it was 380w.
@@Vanity7k I couldn’t resist, ended up ordering the MSI trio XTX for $940. Especially since I saw other models like Powercolor/XFX going back up to $1000< again, I figured i’d lose my chance to grab one for less. Just gonna try sell my 79xt and hopefully make some money back lol. Posted on ebay for $850. My friend said I should’ve got a 4080 but I have faith in AMD to continue to improve the performance of the XTX. Also I wanted a full AMD build. I plan to use the XTX with the 5800x3d
I like tinkering, I'm very much nerd when it comes to performance, so the 7900 xtx has been something I have... Absolutely been eyeing out for, especially the Aorus XTX Elite. Those aren't yet available in EU but should arrive in few weeks. I've heard from others that the card has lots of tiny issues, which ultimately would put most users off due to seeking reliability and stability from their graphics card, and I think it's reasonable to expect that not many users will be willing to compromise it. In this department Nvidia shines almost always with the new releases and out of the box experiences. Intels new 770A is also something to look out for imo. There's a lot of good with in these GPU's, but ultimately from customer standpoint of looking for reliability from the product, I would go with the 6000 series AMD GPU's or Nvidia's offerings. 7000 Radeon is looking to be decent card over time... But that's not a selling point and it shouldn't. I hope AMD gets their drivers optimized, because the card is just fascinating and unique.
@@onomatopoeia162003 That's not a sales pitch, nor something to be taken at face value. They've done a great job at it, but you should never be sold at a promise on something, you're just burning money like 90% of the Kickstarters.
@@Ezz0Clan If you really don't care about RT. Which i would agree in another video I saw recently that it's a gimmick. Just like hairFX was. (When it doesn't hamper the fps) And you don't use CUDA cores. Then why would you want an Nividia. Unless someone is a fanboy. Am I missing something here?
How are the drivers now? They fixed minecraft, and so csgo is their worst game now so im going to wait until cs2 releases before buying it as i want performance in cs2 to be on par with a 4080 or higher
I did a lot of research! Hrs of it... went with the 4080 as I got it on sale and didn't like the issues Id seen on the AMD side. I wanted to be able to use the Nvidia recording, better RT, better power usage and thermals, the dlss3.0, and the better drivers
Hmm you had to make sure to say "better" twice then you leave out all the problems NV 4080 are having. Not everone is having issues with AMD 7900xtx same with Nv 4080. Oooh NV Fan I get it so yeah AMD just tons more issues...just worse I see now. So what NV over priced the the 40 series pffft. And what do all those top known reviewers know about NV overpricing the 40 series .. they were all wrong huh. $1199 fair price..so what NV tried to lie to everyone with the TWO 4080 haha.. now the 4070TI. To show NV how wrong they really were.... people buy NV anyway. Showed them!
@@DosBlade I got mine on sale for a better price. It was over 100% better than my 2070 super and was a better price to performance for what they were asking for 30 series GPUs still. If I hadn't seen it on sale, I probably would have got the AMD cards, but I saw a better deal on the 4080. I hope you feel better though. I better go I'm busy today. Have a good one mate
thank you for this. i am looking at this gpu for my current build (building two PC's and already have the ASRock OC Formula 6950XT for one of them) and it is nice to hear an honest review from an unbiased perspective. your video was straight and to the point, with no fluff... i appreciate that as well!! keep up the good work 👍
You just hit bad luck with your AMD GPU , not sure if you a NVIDIA fan boy , but don't let this one experience put you off AMD GPU's , NVIDIA have their fair share of Fuck Up's but NVIDIA Fan Boys act like NVIDIA cant do no wrong. I have been in the PC Game for a Loooooong Time , and have had many NVIDIA and AMD GPU's and the amount of BULLSHIT Pushed by NVIDIA FAN BOYS about how bad AMD Cards are is a Load of Bullshit. At this point in time AMD and NVIDIA OWE Me , for the amount of money i have thrown at them through the years , Majority of the PC Tech channels Kids were either not around or to young to even know what a PC was when I was in the game , so trust me I have played on Both Sides of the isle , and nGreedia are not the Wonder-full Company the Fanboys love to make out they are. NVIDIA know how to pull the wool over gamers eyes especially their FAN BOYS , I remember when physics X was the new thing and how the NVIDIA Fan Boys would go wild about it , it was just a gimmick just like DLSS , so they drop your resolution so low so the card can pump out more frames then sell you the idea the card is working better with DLSS , just so you know a TV can upscale on the Fly and it don't have a 4080 GPU DLSS is the next Physics X but the FAN Boys are Blind and Dumb. I watch the NVIDIA Fan Boys they claim FSR is not as Good as DLSS but when you watch the videos without bias. You can clearly see the NVIDIA GPU has artifact;s in DLSS , but they will claim that only AMD CARD have artifact in the games or are not rendering as nice as NVIDIA.
I have RX 6600 the driver would randomly crash just by hovering over RUclips thumbnails. But now I think it is a lot better. Instead, my friends with GTX 1660 Ti's can't play Hogwarts Legacy at 1080p low possibly due to driver issue.
i have the rx 6600 sapphire pulse... 0 crash with stock settings 🤣... undervolted and overclocked 2700mhz🤣... i update all Drivers at day 1.. even the optional.. no crash
i have a 7900xt. I can definitely confirm most of what you said. VR isnt that great 90 percent of the time but sometimes works great and i have no clue what cause the difference. Sometimes ill get over 90fps ultra settings on project wingman and other times itll be 40ish and the glass on from the canopy will flicker. Games definitely crash alot when you first play them and less the more you do. Im going to stick to it, like my buddy said it will only get better. Ray tracing is sad but to be honest i can barely tell the difference when its on in game. Guess i dont look at the right spots or something.
It's actually sad man. Look, I'll admit I'm an AMD fanboy, and almost every PC enthusiast leans one way or the other whether they want to admit it or not, but if I had to upgrade my 6800 XT, I would most likely (at least for now) go with a 4000 from Nvidia. Last generation there were way more incentives to go for AMD, but this generation? Not so much. Both are expensive as hell! I even had to deal with the BSOD and reinstalling of Windows after updating my GPU driver. Absolutely unacceptable. That being said, OC potential is crazy, all I do is video editing, coding, 1440p gaming, and therefore all I need FOR NOW is a 6800 XT. We'll see if AMD can improve their 7000 series through updates and such. Great video!
I’m a little confused on the streaming aspect of the video. Are you saying that the 4080 will work better on default settings? Also with the AMD would you have to change settings every time you want I stream, edit, VR, etc?
Nvidia has their NVENC encoder which is better for streaming, with the AMD card I tried a lot of different settings and it works well but I had to mess with it way more. VR at the time I recorded this video performed awful on the XTX, not sure about it now since I got the 4080 for $1015 and haven’t looked back..
I put a lot of work into this video, if you enjoyed it please hit the LIKE button and let me know if you want to see more!!
AMD cant fix drivers since 3-4 years, it started with 5700x lasted 2 years, 6000 series card still have microstutters, crashes, they cant fix it since 2 years and the new gen have the same problem xd, people buy amd and call the drivers fine wine but in reality they just need years to fix drivers.
nimez drivers fixes that i use 6700xt and never had vr issues before wierd
@@tinsterhk i got my 4080 for 1015..
What about gaming only no vr no software nothing basically pc cafe is it worth it ?
@@GFE. the XTX is
I thought the thumbnail was fried chicken on XTX 😅
🤣 this made me laugh out loud
BOMBOCLAAATH 😆
Haha me too
Yeah same lol.
Same lol
The VR support was fixed. It's not the GPU, everything mentioned was fixable bugs. AMD also just released support for ROCm, which is the alternative to CUDA, including the capability to convert CUDA. The power use also got a fix in the driver. I generally think it's incredibly DUMB to buy new AMD products day one with the early drivers, and also scamming people by making click bait complaints about bugs that get fixed, and never following up about the bug fix. This isn't content that should be taken serious, because it's not professional and just click baiting people with FUD.
Amd still has driver problems. Its like a big hit and mis with amd like some people say it works for them some people hate it. And with my money i would rather pay for a NV gpu. They always just work for me. Never had a driver problem. Now with going with amd its a crap shoot
@@DETERMINOLOGYlike which one? Name a driver bug present at this moment with AMD that warrants a brand change?
@@gallieon8718 which one ? amd is amd. There drivers are always second best to nvidia always
@@DETERMINOLOGY just name one then. I'm speaking from a perspective where I work with multiple cards from both brands.
I can confirm that Nvidia has taken the piss with some of the mid to high end 4000 series drivers (we don't work with lower end so I wouldn't know there). Nothing deal breaking but the issues are there. AMD at this date and time is by far more proactive with fixing it's issues as opposed to it's competition. Intel is covering more ground than the both of them, but that's probably because they started off with more problems.
So name one. Just one bug that AMD has today that could warrant a change over to team green. I'll wait.
@@gallieon8718 it’s nothing to name. Amd is always second behind nv when it comes to drivers. We all know this. You must be new
I have serious doubts toward anyone who says he returned an AMD GPU because of "stability and driver issues". I've been using my 6600 XT for the past six months and it's been flawless. I think he just made up an excuse in his own mind because he wanted an Nvidia card.
Lmao, chill, I've built a lot of PCs over the years for customers and friends 9/10 times there was issues with a GPU, it was AMD. Whether it was the driver not wanting to install, drivers resetting settings, etc.
So you're comparing a 6600XT to a 7900XTX? even though they're completely different architecture wise?, for starters one is chiplets (the first one ever) and the other is a normal monolithic die. Everybody knows *the 7000 series has severe driver and stability issues,* even AMD does, is not a secret or something "made up" you can't compare the 6000 series to the 7000 series at all, after all the 6000 series has had 2 years of drivers and are stable, the 7000 series has not.
This weird denial fanboyism isn't healthy.
Nothing wrong with AMD. You have to know what your doing. Running 7900 XTX Gigabyte on a 3900X using a X570 motherboard. I have CSM disabled (All hard drives on GPT so UEFI works), UEFI WIN 11 active, Resize BAR, and Above 4G Encoding enabled (This enables and GPU Smart Access Memory).
Nope I felt the same exact way and got rid of my XTX for a 4080.
@@LeegallyBliindLOL Lmao, chill, I've built a lot of PCs over the years for customers and friends 9/10 times there was issues with a GPU, it was Nvidia. They've caught fire or burned up two generations now.
AMD has done a lot to bring value back to the GPU market. I think their cards favor patient builders. Nvidia is usually out of the box ready to go, but this time around I'm not really sold on the extreme premiums Nvidia is asking. We've all repeated the same thing. But at like $850 for a partner 4070ti with that 12gb GDDR6X and low memory bandwidth. The 4080 and 4090 are the cards that really matter, but I feel like the 50 series will be much the same but they'll be giving us 16gb or 20gb on the cards to suddenly make Nvidia look like the leader again. That's why the 40 series has such low VRAM at the lower end. They want to sell you 4080 and up, and the 4070Ti in 3 years isn't going to be chugging along in 4k high refresh or even 1440p. I'm just gonna wait for the next generation of cards.
Nvidia just try to rip you off.
@@garryli2030 Try? They did.. anyone that bought a 40 series got ripped off. They were way over priced. Has nothing what so ever to do with " I have the money I don't care". They our right tried to say they they had TWO 4080's.
@@DosBlade Show me your money.
Nvidia is cheap because you get a full working year extra for the price. The first year. And that`s why you buy it, is it not.
Besides AMD just never seems to work in productivity.
They want you use DLSS and allow them save some money at VRAM
Thankfully I don't do streaming, or VR. So seems like the 7900xtx is perfect for me.
Same, so far I'm loving mine, no issues, stable drivers surprisingly and cool temps
Or just buy from the NVIDIA price difference a second streaming pc and BOOM you also have a second PC.
VR is fine on the XTX, and the overhead for VRAM, AMD adding frame gen
Your false comparison to 2060 super are just a lie. at 3:52 you are showing the 3080 and 7900 xtx are almost precisely the same in VR performance. So I really think you're a drama queen saying its like a 2060 super.
I"m running the white powercolor version and absolutely love it, should be set for the next 7 years or so. Concerned at first with the power usage but down to 6-9W idle with the most recent 23.72 drivers.
i’m thinking to buy the white powercolor version as well, is there any problems with it and did they update all the issues with it?
Hook up a second monitor and you run on 110watt idle … that’s dumb.
@@MrKBhamm Turn on DLSS because your card is weaker to get more fps...Thats Brain dead!
@@jmangames5562 it wasnt a bad amd good nvidia post. don't get me wrong. i really liked my 7900xtx nitro. The problem was really the power usage. On idle with 2 monitors i had 110watt without doing anything. in games i had 450 watt. with 0,4€ per kwh in germany thats a no go for me. The game feeling and adrenalin was clear better. but i got a 4080 for 50€ less than the amd so i returned it. now i have in the same games without dlss (because i think it looks bad) the same fps but for example in bg3 only 140watt instead of ~400watt capped at 120 fps. if amd gets this idle bug right i will swap next gen.
I have been thinking about getting this exact gpu, however I have heard there is some extreme coil whine with it? Is it really as bad as some others have stated?
AMD fanboys be like;
"But you can just re-paste the card! You can run these third-party programs to patch AMDs firmware! You can just roll back to old drivers if they break! Give them eighteen months, all these issues will be fixed!"
I've been using AMD since 2019 as well. 5700xt to 6700xt (current). Driver issues have always been an issue, and I really don't expect that to change.
Simultaneously using an Nvidia GPU on my secondary PC, I've yet to have any meaningful issues with drivers.
My next build will absolutely have an Nvidia GPU in it. The whole "AMD Fine Wine" longevity gimmick is a double-edged sword, in that you have a 'functioning' graphics card for 6+ years- but you're also spending those years in a love/hate relationship with your PC because of the sporadic issues that seemingly pop-up at least once a month.
Yeah, I could NOT justify keeping my XTX given that I got a 4080 OC for cheaper, and it runs way smoother and performs night / day better in VR
VR got a lot better in recent drivers.
Glad to hear. I am about to get a 7900XTX Nitro + and do a fair bit of sim racing and other games in VR. Has it been stable and performed well?
If you have to buy a High End GPU right now consider the 6900/6950XT, the 2 years I have owned my 6900XT its done nothing but get better and better. I've seen the XFX and AsRock 6950xt going for about 660 US and they average about 90% of the performance of the 800+ dollar cards. I would just skip this generation all together unless prices come way down.
Que te parece la 6800 xt?
I picked up the 6950 XT red devil open box for $571 and its amazing. I found an open box for a Asrock 7900 XTX for $873 and still in the exchange window, should I and would it be much faster?
What makes you think the 7900xtx isn’t gonna get better and better? lol
I ended up exchanging the 6950 XT for a 7900 XTX and it was a huge improvement. BUT I exchanged the 7900 XTX to a 4090 FE and it was a night and day difference.
@@eplugplay8409 Nice man. What psu do u have?
I'm using a PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6900 XT and have never been happier. This card will play any high-end game without breaking a sweat.
This review screams "Paid for by Nvidia."
patience is a virtue. these cards are $950 now and still out performing the 4080
If you are p8ck8ng cards based on raytraycing you are a fool. Raytraicing IS NOT where it should be. Most of the games perform like crap on low raytracing... games are not optimizing for that crap. In 10 years, maybe tech will be advanced enough to have a decent Raytraicing performance. Till then majority of people game with raytracing off. It's just a fact.
I just got my rx 7900xtx and I am in love with it and I got it open box in excellent condition with a 1 year warranty for only 590 dollars and believe me all the problems you mention no longer exist!! She is an excellent GPU that by activating FSR3 and generation of photoramas I go to 500 fps in Warzone!!! wow you should follow your video!!! To clarify, I ventured into the PC world with my 1080ti, beautiful GPU, I still collect it. After that, I bought a 2060, super very good GPU, but for my Nvidia, it started to annoy my life and break my head when I got my 3070, there were errors in drivers, stutters in games. but what I hated the most was when I made the jump to 4070, pfffff, I hated it with all my heart, problems in games, problems in obs, I didn't play for 1 month because I thought my PC had died, I bought the 4070 on day 0 and I said well, maybe it's Driver problem is a new GPU, well it took 6 months to sell it because nothing that was solved lasted 2 months without playing until I made the jump to a 4070ti and the problem was half solved by this point I had already changed the processor board for a better power supply Because I thought it was wrong, I even changed my old Samsung SSDs for 7500mb/s Samsung NVME and nothing solved the problem. The PC worked like a champ for 2 months and after updating drivers, the PC broke again, with everything and ready. to give up the PC I sold my 4070ti for 500 dollars and I kept quiet about an offer of a 7900xtx merc 310 black edition for 590 dollars and I said I'll give amd a chance and one last chance for me to be able to play and believe me everything is solved I'm not complaining about nothing, everything works super well!!!
Sorry you had to go through all that, I know how frustrating issues can be but i’m glad you found what works!!
yea I'm about to return mine because it's overheating though :D the cooling performance degrades rapidly. My card is 8 months old. Hotspot was 85°C in furmark when I got it, right now it's 106°C.
@@TheTimster007 pero hablas de la 7900xtx ??? Que modelo tenías ?
@@thecalagm6435 hello.
Yes, Phantom Gaming XTX
Makes a video explaining his imaturity lool typical nvidia fanboy. The XTX will age like fine wine continue to get better and has 8gb more vram then your 4080 plus smokes it in rater frames in 90% of games. fsr 3 is coming also and will aim to compete with dlss 3.5 if your into fake frames and paying more for them.
I love my 7900xtx no issues , working great, and so glad I finally went team read. My 820 dollar 3070ti 8 gb evga ftw3 is complete trash compared to this 999 7900 xtx powercolor hell hound with 24 GB memory. IT RIPS through games and gives me butter smooth quest 2 vr... unlike the stuttery mess the 3070ti gave me. I love the occulus link cable.
How is the ray tracing and does it fixed vr issue with driver update?
you just compared a 3070 ti to a 7900xtx, comparing a previous gen mid level gpu to a top level current gen gpu? ok AMD cultist, cool story bro...nice inflation on that 3070 ti price too 😜
We got a founders edition for $999 and are extremely happy with it ... purchased in Feb 2023 from NewEgg. GREAT deal, great card ...
Bro got a reference 7000 series 💀💀💀
We get really screwed with VAT here, bought an 7900 xt have had some crashes but no bsod yet. A 4070ti is more expensive by 200$ and dont even ask ab the 4080 800$ more expensive than the new 7900xt i got, i was team green for so long after a bad experience with AMD gpu back in the day, im just not willing to shell out so much on a gpu under no circumstance, a 1800k$ gaming gpu shouldnt have a right to exist.
Wtf are you doing that you can't handle a basic driver install lmfao.
I almost bought the XFX, but went with the ASRock Taichi 7900XTX, and so far it has been okay. I've had some game crashes, but I'm constantly overclocking and undervolting so those could be on me. When I run the card on stock settings it doesn't crash. But I love tweaking my system even if it only garners me 5% more performance.
The main issue I've had is screen flicker in windows. When changing tabs and doing things within a browser the screen will flicker really fast. Like a single frame flicker. It isn't a constant flicker, but just a random one here and there, and it only seems to happen when I interact with the browser. I haven't had this in games though.
It is a power hungry card, especially when overclocking it above 3000Mhz. It will have spikes up to 550w, with averages in the upper 300's.
All in all I can't complain.
I considered the 4080, and was very close to getting one, but I game at 1440p UW, don't use VR, and don't care about RT, so I went with the 7900XTX for the extra rasterization performance.
I tried to make it work, but when I was able to get a 4080 for literally 85 less.. I couldn’t justify keeping the 7900 XTX
@@Vanity7k Makes sense, plus, as you said in the video you use VR a lot, so it makes sense that the 4080 works better for you.
Extra rasterization?. It is barely faster. In newer games im seeing 4080 is doing better even in raster. Dont care about rt? Y do u care about rasterization also? A lot of the settings hardly make any difference. Rt reflections, gi make a huge difference to visuals. Furthermore dlss upscaling is way better than fsr upscaling. Dlss frame gen is also super helpful. Theres absolutely no point in buying 7900xtx unless u only play cod
@@anuzahyder7185 I don't use upscaling because the image quality is degraded too much even on quality settings.
The 7900xtx is definitely faster in most games @1440p which is what I play at.
Yes RT makes a big difference, but when enabled it drops the fps too much even on a 4080 so I have no use for it. I don't like playing anything with less than 100fps, and really 150+ is ideal.
Also, the 24GB of VRAM is going to hold up in the long term better than 16GB.
You call that small issues.
I would call it a disaster.
Thats WhatsApp the matter with amd
Ownrrs think thst the cheapness is worth it.
Most of the issues you brought up have been resolved as far as I can tell now and it's $950 USD or less now. You definately were a victim of early adoption sadly which really should not happen in 2023. AMD you know better than to release with issues! Oh well they are mostly addressed now. Streaming works great, video editing works with Davinci and Adobe great (HUB confirms), VR is fixed based on several videos last few months, high idle power fixed. These should have been non issues from day 1.
Good decision, the 4080 is great...ly overrated garbage.
And this is why Nvidia owns 80% of the gpu market!
It is not always just about frame rates but the seamless trouble free operation in so many scenarios where Nvidia is just plain dominant over AMD gpu's.
75*
@@inqizzo It varies between 75 and 80%, I think the last released numbers I saw was about 78%.
No it's not NVIDIA dominate because of there history and brand not because they always have the best (apple for example are the biggest phone company in the world they don't make the best phones just because a company has the most market share doesn't mean they make the best) people are real quick to forget the whole 20 series of cards and the 40 series is a 30 series refresh.
The guy didn't do a fresh install when changing GPU if you switch from NVIDIA to AMD you have to wipe all the NVIDIA drivers off the system before replacing it with the AMD card.
But if you want the best you go rtx 4090 if you're looking for the best bang for your buck you go AMD.
@@nathanconnolly395 You stated it yourself "if you want the best you go rtx 4090 " and then " if you're looking for the best bang for your buck you go AMD."
Bang for the buck products cost less but do NOT offer the performance of the top products in the market, this is exactly why Nvidia owns the market share they do, they overall build a better GPU that just works better overall which includes features than AMD.
Saying otherwise is just wrong, AMD barely is competing with Nvidia currently with Nvidias 2nd tier cards much less the top tier.
@@billwiley7216 not true the Rx 7900 xtx out performs the rtx 4080 the only card that NVIDIA have that out performs the Rx 7900 xtx is the rtx 4090 the only reason to buy NVIDIA over AMD is if you are a video editor or you stream for the vast majority of gamers AMD are better it's just facts look at the data and you'll come to the same conclusion I do find it strange you ignored the fact that the 40 series can't even be categorised as a refresh that's how bad the performance uplift was from the 30 series and how NVIDIA tried to gaslight everyone into thinking 12gb was good enough for a 70ti class card released in 2023 which was crazy.
Seriously, thank you. I believe a lot of what you said isn't being talked about with reviewers and it really annoys me that I did have to spend hours worth of research just to get VR performance and productivity. I almost bought an XTX until I found like the only Unreal Engine development benchmark, Which was barely beating the 2080 Ti. Honestly, I think that I, a consumer, spending over thousand dollars on a GPU shouldn't have a lot of the XTXs issues. Then, waiting for several months worth of driver updates in hopes that these issues are solved. I bought a 4090 for 3D work loads and yet to have any crashes. I would have been angry too if I went with AMD just to find out it can't work loads.
Glad it helped! Thanks for commenting :)
All of your issues are bios issues. Have fun with the lesser gpu.
Great video, just note that the 7900XTX significantly beats the 4090 in war-zone and even the 7900XT is faster than the 4090, but this may change in the future and is a major outlier.
I'm thinking of replacing my 3080Ti with this GPU once drivers mature enough, but I will wait for a good deal first.
I'm not in a rush.
Thanks! It’s already down to $999 on amazon, but I was able to get a 4080 for $1015
Breh... I have same 3080ti... to gain maybe "few" FPS and spend another 300€+ to get new one after you sell 3080ti... not worth... wait 5000/6000 rtx series or 8000/9000 xtx
@@Smartestfacts i upgraded from a 2060 super.. it made a lot of sense for me to upgrade
4090>7900xtx>7900xt in warzone lmao, what you meant to say is that 7900 xtx scales better with low ass cpus in mw2/bench and a little bit of warzone.
@@dawienel1142 obviously, those people don't know what their are doing. F chasers showed these gpu st literally best hw you can get for warzone, check those numbers there. And i say that as a 5800x3d /7900 xtx owner. Not to mention there are locations on the big map where 7900 xtx drops from 220+ to 100 fps because card stops working in those locations lmaoo
// Oh my bad, you said hardware unboxed lmao, thats explains it all. Always the dudes that dont know what theire doing 😂😂
I personally decided to go with the rx 6950 xt and im glad i did, also thanks for the video...
Thanks for sharing!
You're using streamblabs, which is always late for obs updates,
using hevc when you've bought a card with first gen hardware av1 encoder
and expecting it not to crash.
Sadly none of the new gen cards are worth the money they cost right now. And if enough people refuse to buy them we will eventually see the prices drop
So what’s the best card to upgrade then
@@jaredgable390my personal opinion the rx 6700 xt is probably the best bang for buck rn
i clicked through a few videos for the answer to the VR performance, and you answered it for me. thanks for the vid
Glad to help!
If your 7900XTX is running hot, change your fan curve. The default is a very low speed. I’ve had mine give a GPU hot warning in MW2 until I change my fan curve. It’s unfortunate, but a nature of the beast. Otherwise I’ve had no issues with mine.
I never had mine go up above 64C so it didn’t run hot but it felt like it was so inefficient as I watched the power draw even when doing normal tasks
Imagine having to do extra steps out of the box 😂 thank god I sold my 6800xt shit was 105 on hot spot maxed out rt in cp2077 4090 GANG NOW also I’m playing maxed out rt 4k 160 hz and the 4090 stats at 70c 😂 so much of a beast running cooler then your beast
@@minhnguyen96 that's odd I have a 6800xt and play cp2077 ultra setting not useing rt 1440p ultrawide never goes above 70c but then again I'm useing a 4000d corsair pc case
@@minhnguyen96 u gotta be capping
@@Vanity7k I noticed that you didn't mention tuning the card. For whatever reason they have the voltage set too high. You should be able to run stable at 1040 mvs with that particular card. The memory should be stable at 2750 and set the max core frequency to 3100 MHz . It can get to 3200 but it introduces instability. Decreasing the voltage won't reduce the power draw but it will markedly improve the performance. The only way to reduce the power draw is to limit it in Adrenaline or lower the max core frequency. You shouldn't be having artifacts. I never did.
I have a AsRock 7900 XTX Aqua, I absolutely love it
Nice!
So many comments with people "tinkering" settings and using 3rd party software to get the amd card to work as intended, drivers are still an issue it seems based on the comments. 😐
"again, this looks way worse in headset" need not be said. If I experienced that ONCE in any of my games I'd consider tossing the 7900xtx out!
I am someone who really appreciates immersion and good image quality, I am all about that. Good sound and good image quality. I am the type of person who likes to look at views and have my breath taken away, and if any AMD card can't do that for me, It's a no-go.
I did have a 5700xt which I believed to be faulty, It was the biggest headache for 2 weeks as I couldn't even run games and videos at the same time!!
Seems like we have the same experience with amd cards.. what card are you rocking now?
Especially when your paying 1000 dollars for something that’s does not even work fully.
@@Bigboii7 that’s exactly my thought
Nvida as inferior to AMD the 7900xtx is an Absolut beast of a card and blows the the 4090 away if you have a proper build , also the 7900xtx is a dedicated gaming card , AMD makes this known thats why they have a card that is specifically built for video editing its called the AMD Radeon Pro W7900 . I have 7900xtx and it out preforms the 4090 in every game I play , but then I have proper build that is only reliant on one component , as its the whole system that dictates how good your gaming performance will be not just one component , I tried the 4090 in my system ( which is a proper build and I spared no expense and got the best of the best components ) and it was total crap less FPS on every game I played , the 7900xtx preformed 30% better , anyway raytracing gimmick at best.
What cpu and ram did u pair it with?
Let’s not forget the RTX 4080/16GB is still a cut down xx80 GPU. And only has 256 bit memory bus. For xx80 class card that make no sense at its high price. When normally they at least 320 bit bus or more for xx80 class GPUs.
Amd has always struggled at getting good stable drivers out. Hopefully they continue to improve. RDNA 3 imo was bit of letdown. They have improved over RDNA2, but imo it feels RDNA3 was more of RDNA 2+ refresh. RTX 4xxx was a joke consider they all cut down version except the 4090 at high premier price.
Don’t kid yourself, the 4090 is cut down as well. Every gpu in the 40 series is one tier higher than they should be. Sooner or later nvidia will launch the 4090 ti or super with the full fat Lovelace die we should have gotten with the original 4090.
i was in a similar debate after all the issues i had to sort just to get that exact XFX 7900xtx to even work properly.. not to mention the VR driving/racing games i play not even loading and getting driver time out errors every time.. gpu driver somehow locking my ryzen cpu at 1.4v making it idle at 65-70c.. blah blah..
if i pulled one more strand of hair out i was going to send it back and just eat it paying out the rear for a 4090 since i already was at the point if im spending this much im buying the best they offer.. since prices are only going to keep going up with each gen..
needless to say i got things sorted with the 7900xtx and it's an absolute beast on assetto corsa with the graphics settings maxxed out in a full lobby of modded cars online which blew my mind.. like WOW the upgrade from my 5700xt which preformed almost identical to your 2060S is just insane.
plus the temps! this xfx runs so cool even under load in the vr sim titles i play it rarely goes over 55c compared to my gigabyte gaming oc(rev.2) triple fan 5700xt seeing mid 80c temps.
i also knew about the subpar VR performance prior but figured oh they'll drop a driver fix soon enough.. well they still need to, but for my use case it's getting the job done as expected and i can only hope as the saying goes with amd cards/drivers- it'll age like fine wine.
also- i'm running this card on a 10 year old evga 850 G2 with 3 separate 8 to 6+2 pin connectors on an AM4 build. i've been able to overclock without power draw being an issue aswell, but for the sake of longevity i'll keep it at factory settings with just the fan curve edited like my 5700xt.
Thanks for sharing! Quite the experience you’ve had
Assetto Corsa is one of the very few games that runs good on the 7900XTX when in VR, it's actually close to the 4080 and is superior to the 6950XT, so it's like it should be, but the issue is that this should be the normal in all VR games, instead in others it runs them at 50-80% slower than a 4080 and even a 6950XT surpasses it or is close most of the time. It's embarrassing and sad.
RDNA3 has turned out to be a total shit show. I sold my 6700XT and purchased a 6900XT for an amazing price of £575. I'm going to skip RDNA3. I will buy RDNA4 instead.
I considered doing the same, but decided the deal I got on the 4080 was too good to pass up for the time being
Hmm. I love MY XFX 7900 XTX. Great card for definitely better value than a 4080. 👌🏼
Glad it works for you!
Well if you are into a bad experience and dont mind that you make sense.
I have had mine for two days and it has crashed five times.
I got my 4080 for the same price as an XTX. Was seriously considering the XTX but I just can't do it lol
@@jaren-xd2zp Very good deal. AMD is great on paper but the reality sucks.
I'm 2 mins into this video and this guy was literally in the exact position I'm in now. I've got $1000 saved up so far and I'm trynna figure out whether I should go with the 7900XTX or 4080. There's some pros and cons with going either route, but I'm most def leaning more towards buying the 4080. We'll see... I got about a week before I've saved up enough
Prices are going down on AMD but not on the 4080 that I can see yet
I got the 4080. I play on my LG C1 OLED 4K TV @ 120hz, I have to put the resolution on Apex at 7K to get constant 120fps. I love this card
If they’re the same price wherever you are it’s a no brainier. 4080 if it’s within 100, if it’s nearer a 200 gap…. AMD best bet
I wanted to get the 7900xtx originaly. After seeing that the factory water blocked versions were the same price as the 4080 water blocked versions, and most of my high competitive games use DLSS, I went with the 4080. Don't regret it one bit, they're both beasts. Even if the 4080 is a little more price wise, you still get a lot of support in modern games in terms of RTX and DLSS. Stability as well in pretty solid on the 4080 (at launch atkeast). Unless your a video editor/ graphic designer who needs the extra 8 more gigs of VRAM, get the 4080.
I got my XFX 7900 Merc310 Black this week for $999, and didn't have a single problem so far. Also no coil whine or overheating what-so-ever due to custom curves.
And factor for me was the pricing of Greedvidia. 1,200 for 4080 (in my country it's more like 1,400) was too much asking price, even tho previously I only had Geforces.
So that's my story 😊
so the thing about this card and amd in general, is you actually need to know what you are doing to own one of these cards, I'd recommend doing a little more research as you may find you are one of very few experiencing any of these issues and it's more likely an issue in your setup.
With recent Nvidia price gouging, a RTX 4080 is now $350 more than a RX 7900 XTX.
Great video man.
I too bought 7900xtx, it is my first time having amd card, and i am not very happy with that
First 2 days my gpu was crashing very hard, blue screen here and there, that made me really regret moving to amd, try to fix evreything from bios and it worked, but as life goes on u fix one thing and break onother, i updated my gpu and my windows crashed, reinstall windows. Then i install game pass pc, out of 10 games i downloaded amd recognize one, monster hunter and it think it is resident evil ,they even got the wrong name, these issues never happened to me on nivida cards and i think nividia makes you life easier, amd needs to step up thier game to get to a point where they please evreyone, i don't care about RT or VR and i am still affected by my experince with amd.
Sorry to hear about your issues, I hope they fix their drivers soon
Get rid off it as fast as possible.
The problems Will persist.
Or they Will last a long time. Thats amd.
The payed reviewers Will never tell you that.
Because they are bought.
I had none pal... NONE. Did you DDU your install for the AMD card? Probably not... here you go. Another tech illete3rate who can't install drivers properly.
Safe Mode --> DDU --> Unplug Ethernet --> Restart and Install --> FFS... noobs everywhere
Had this card for a a few days before having to returning it. Now I currently have a 4090 😊 the xtx was a powerhouse coming from a 3080
AMD were shooting their mouth off that RDNA3 is 1.7x more performant than RDNA2, but if you look at the benchmarks for the 7900XT it is only 15-20% faster than the 6900XT.
Didn't Nvidia do the same tho? "2x more raster performance than the the 3090Ti" when In reality the 4090 was only 32% faster.
4090 is 32% faster 😂😂😂. It is 60-70% faster in raster n 80-100% in ray tracing.
Add dlss 3 frame gen n it goes to another level
@@anuzahyder7185 bet you pull your statistics out of userbenchmark lmao.
@@curedanxiety1679 hahahah I guess u did that. To even think 4090 is only 32% faster than 3090ti is downright ignorance
@@anuzahyder7185 yeah sure, userbenchmark is literally the only site that claims a 70-80% raster perfomance uplift, lol, get exposed.
how many of his complaints are solved by amd or have known fixes now that we're heading into 2024?
I want to buy an AMD card, but no VR support is a deal breaker
Same for me, maybe they’ll fix it later but I didn’t want to have payed over 1k for the xtx to have issues with it
@@Vanity7k strange. I’ve been playing vr on my rx 6800 without any issues since it launched.
@@Bunta1987qwerty Its just the 7000 Series that have Major issues with VR at the moment. The 6900 XT ist often faster than the 7900XTX in VR.
People in the AMD Forums are gathering Informations.
- Wireless VR Headsets seem to have issues with clarity
- Enabling any AA in VR can quickly turn down the performace over 50%
- MWR Headsets seem to have uniquie different Issues...
I also was juust about to order the XTX, when I found out about the VR Issues... I really want at least 20 gb of VRAM but not want to spend much more than a grand for it...
For now I think I wait with my 5700xt and get a 7800x3d first. Hoping they might have fixed their stuff until then.
@@Frontline38 Oculus Airlink is still broken on RDNA3...wtf.
I hope AMD stops making video card so we can all pay $1500 for an RTX 4050 4GB. i'll just stop playing games all together and laugh at you all going without food for Nvidia.
Update bios? Remove all nvidia drivers? Would probably have fixed the issues not sure haven't had amd yet but ive been strongly considering it for the future league vanguard killed my 2080
I thought your thumbnail was your graphics card cooking shrimp.
XD
I have never really had any of these issues with amd I must just be l lucky I ran a hd 7970 cross fire then a fury fallowed by a Vega 56 n now a 6800 xt son always been Nvidia he's now on amd too 6700 xt other son still on gtx 1080 fingers crossed 🤞 they sort it for people having them 🤞
So far everyone that’s commented has different experiences, for me I’m glad I got a good deal and that’s why I switched back to Nvidia
My first ever pc had a 380x, at the time it ran well for 1080p 60fps gaming. But since then all my cards have been Nvidia. But i buy all my Nvidia cards used and saved 100s of dollars over the years
Tbh i’ve never bought a used card
The "finewine" argument doesn't hold any water with me. I don't care if the card becomes stable and beats the same-gen nvidia card after 3 years of driver updates. I'm buying the card now, and in 3 years, I'll have upgraded already.
I feel the same! That’s why I returned it
Exactly...
Was a proud owner of rx 5700XT ... Check this out, at that time Assassins creed odyssey was my go to game and i couldnt play the dlc because an AMD card would just get stuck at the intro and checked on reddit, people had the same error for a year. Didnt play what i paid for cuz 5700XT.
Then rx 6900xt, perfect card actually. Just one issue - exceed power limit slightly or play something like cyberpunk ...crash. Oh is that scene intense, why are you copying and downloading at the same time = crash. At the release of rtx 4000 series, i just had to get an rtx 3090ti and i have never....i repeat never had any of the above issues at all. Two cards had issues but i stayed with them and thought it was the norm until now.
Thanks for sharing! There’s some people that seem to be really pressed about this video even though I mentioned that AMD still has potential
Good & honest video. I've always used Nvidia cards and supported them... Lately though, their pricing is ridiculous on high end. Things like RT/VR/Rendering Apps aren't a big deal to me so I don't feel the price gap is worth it. Anyways thanks for your effort into this video I appreciate it!
Hope it was helpful :)
VR is a big reason why I need a GPU which costs at least a grand. AMD once again disappoints! It is just RTX 4080 is priced very badly. It needs to be 200 dollars less while current pricing should be taken by RTX 4080 Ti. I would buy RTX 4080 Ti for current day RTX 4080 price.
I’ve been at Nvidia fan for a long time. But was thinking about switching to AMD cards because of the price. Paying $1500 for my 3080 TI is ridiculous. but I’m glad I watch this video. I will stick with Nvidia cards for the stability.
Ray tracing is a gimmick, it doesnt really add anything to the experience. Baked in lighting is better because it doesnt destroy your framerate.
Its not a gimmick, but how its been implemented can be considered gimmicky. Raytracing is just another name for Path Tracing, which is the method we use for professional renders in arch visualization, movies, game cinematics...etc. It actually cuts down on development time, where as baking everything down is time consuming and requires more "tricks" to give the illusion of a path traced render. It kills framerates because its doing a lot more computations. This in turn forces hardware makers to push better hardware, otherwise they don't have as much incentive to push it more than they need to.
While i have a 4090 i also have plenty of amd gpu’s. The 5700xt had some small issues at first but its been perfect for years on my end. But I haven’t had much problem with either nvidia or amd just a couple black screen crashes with the xt at first. I think amd’s cpu division is much stronger than its radeon gpu division. I wrote this before watching so Im wondering if you had the bad driver that messed with windows 11 with your xtx. (Gonna watch now)
Thanks for sharing
So apparently the driver issue was caused by updating amd drivers while a windows update was going on in the background. This has caused bricking and instability.
@@LudwigHorsecock Ye they are aware of this and now when you try updating the AMD Drivers it won't allow you to select the "Factory Reset" option as this is what caused the bricking of OS's
My experience... because you sir, know how to handle your hardware and maintain your OS with their drivers... but some people on the internet clearly dont... like the maker of this video.
the rule of thumb of buying gpus is amd for just gaming nvdia for content creation and vr
I'm into flightsims and wanted to upgrade to Intel's latest NUC that supports discreet GPUs, so my requirements were: Max 750W, tons of VRAM, high-end GPU, must fit in the NUC. Due to the power draw I bought the 7900 XT and not the XTX. I am very happy with my choice and the performance. I'm 'VR-curious', but not in a rush so I'm pretty OK at the moment. VR in DCS with out-of-the-box-settings (SteamVR and all that jazz) was not good, so later down the line I'll try again. Check the settings, use OpenXR and stuff like that. But for now with my ultra-wide screen and TrackIR I'm more than happy.
What performance are you getting with the 7900XT ? On what sim and what aircraft? Very few channels do proper flightsim performance reviews for GPUs.
even people with the best gpus struggle to get dcs running in vr smoothly, microsoft flight sim handles it much better
I believe for dcs vr you really need a monster CPU and GPU combo.. Only guys getting vr to run perfectly on DCS nowadays are running it on 4090's
intel nuc is trash lmao stop being a normie
Every reviewer in existence : I've tested the **
Every reviewer in existence 1 month afterwards : I ended up returning it and buying a ** but still gyus, BUY AMD, it KICKS ASS ! It's just...not for me... BUT IT KICK ASSES I SWEAR !
Every reviewer each and every year : WHY NVIDIA GPU KEEPS GETTING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE ?????!!!!!111!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1 People should buy AMD GPUs more, Nvidia greed is out of control !
I just got this exact card for $999 with free 5 month payment plan on Amazon. I don’t do VR or productivity so that won’t be an issue. Hoping I don’t get bit with idle power draw, tho it also looks like under volting these cards drastically lowers the power consumption while not hurting performance too much. Guess we’ll see, assuming I can get the thing into my case.
Case spec says:
This chassis fits full length standard ATX power supply, two large CPU/GPU liquid coolers up to 240/280 mm, and long graphics card length up to 345 mm (with front 20 cm fan removed).
GPU spec says:
13.54 x 5.04 x 2.24 inches, (and my case has the motherboard flat horizontal so the GPU sits vertical and I won’t need the bracket.)
Google says:
345 millimeters = 13.583 inches
So it should fit with 0.04” to spare… gonna be a tight fit (that’s what she said).
The cables might touch and fill that tiny extra space and press up against the case but hopefully you’ll be fine 👍🏽
@@Vanity7k - I don’t think wires will be an issue since the cables plug into the top which is not the tight fit dimension. My first worry is twisting it in. My second worry is that those measurements aren’t apples to apples on how they were taken because I have no margin for error. Hopefully will find out this weekend when I have time to swap the PSU and put it in.
@@jmcminn1076 let me know how it goes!
@@Vanity7k whelp…. It didn’t fit. But it didn’t end too badly. I had a new gpu (kind of the point), and had to upgrade the PSU anyway because the old one was “only” 600 watt, so I had that, and I now have to buy a new case, and I had an SSD laying around, so I ended up just selling the old computer with old GPU to a friend for “close enough” to what it’s gonna cost to replace my amd 3950x/b550/128gb ddr4 with an amd 7950x/x760e/128gb ddr5. So now to wait for the Amazon fairy (again), and do some part swapping (I am keeping my data drives and the rgb hardware so I do still have to pull some stuff out of the old system).
@@jmcminn1076 even better upgrade now!
Sold my 7900XTX for a 4090, Radeons cards just lack too many things.
Used AMD, they have so many driver issues / qc issues. I bought a 5700xt thing was terrible. Even if on paper the nvidia cards aren't cost effective the quality of life is superior. I can't tell you how many things I did only to never resolve my issues with the card. You did the right thing by returning.
Thanks for sharing!
That's probably the only bad amd gpu in recent history. If one experience dictates what you buy then that's on you. Keep supporting a company that rips you off.
huge regret with this card. Driver issues making the card unusable even for light tasks on a flagship model even months after release is ridiculous, not happy with my expensive paperweight.
That and you have 30 days on amazon to return it!! Love amazon and their return policies! Let's me play the latest games, 30 days at a time!
That’s exactly why I bought it on amazon :)
As a day one 6900XT owner it took AMD 18-20 months to fix the drivers. Buy Nvidia.
I have a 7900xt(not xtx) and it is great at everything it just has a slight annoying coil whine. Haven't used VR. Even ray tracing i still got high FPS while using it.
Revierws want you to believe AMD sucks at RT and you cant play lol
I'm prepared to cut AMD some slack, I'd be gobbed smacked if 30% of the buggy behaviour isn't due to coders not being overly familiar the quirks (all coding stacks have them) of the AMD driver stack, whereas Nvidia dominance for the last decade (and not always by fair means) means by default they get the best compatibly testing, and that Devs are well versed in the bug and performance quirks of Nvidia dev/driver stack. IT Hardware is one of few IT areas where an (mega) underdog (AMD - still a multi billion dollar company) still stands a chance in competing, I know it sounds hard to believe at ~$1000, but we are lucky the 7900XTX exist, as I'm pretty sure XTX hardware despite is smaller chip die size, costs more to make with its 8GB more VRAM for less than competition. If it wasn't for the XTX the RTX 4080 would probably be $2000 and the 4070 Super etc would still be "sporting" 12GB RAM (anything but 16GB for longevity).
Good thing I'm not into streaming, 3D editing nor VR thing. Thanks for the video.
True, it sucks at those.
even if you dont do that, terrible drivers and high temps/power usage will be issue, trust me i had amd gpus in past, its nightmare you always afraid of new drivers, but you need to instal them cause older ones has issues that are as old as amd itself... just pay 5 -10% more for nvidia and relax dont care about drivers issues etc
@@NostalgicMem0ries "terrible drivers" We still doing that song and dance? I have it for around 3 months now after being a nvidia user for 10 years... what terrible drivers are you on about?
@@NostalgicMem0ries Maybe if you took your head out of the sand, or your ass. You would realise AMD's normal driver issues are not prevalent in the new lineup.
Yea the AMD sucks with those. It's a joke really
Nothing but problems with the XTX.
I just got the 4090 and that has all but swallowed my 5800xd.
So, now time for a new cpu.......it's never ending
At least the new x3D’s are out 😂
my 5700 served me great for years just ordered my 7900
I waited out the bug fixes with OBS and AMD Drivers. Now the 7900XTX wipes the floor with the 4080 and in most titles, beats the 4090. UR 5.2 will make Ray tracing Obsolete soon anyways, so i do not even consider RT performance. I wished I had waited for the 8000 series as it is going to have massive 50%+ gains over the 7000 series due to an all new architecture. Higher density CCD's and more efficient CCX's with stacked cache.. NVidia will not be able to compete in performance and will flat out lose in price. Not a theory, just facts in Manufacturing limitations.
I would like to buy one, but im going to wait a full year since its release as this is usually the time required for amd to get their shit together
I wrote elsewhere about my experiences with my laptops that have both AMD and nVidia gpus, and there were those guys who vehemently wanted to convince me that I must be mistaken or that I didn't know of which I was talking... It was my experiences since 2020 and I always have problems installing AMD drivers and have to restart everything for it to recognize the drivers. Just installed the newest nVidia drivers: didn't even need to re-start my laptop and no problems during installation.
Well, I've used ATI/AMDs cards since forever and have had no real issues with them. My 3070 gives me BSOD (had 2 today), drivers crashes and some other sh*t I'm tired about. Even the GeForce Experience is pretty bad. Does it mean my experience with Nvidia means they are all the same and eveyone else will have the same problems as I have? No. But all brands have their quote of issues as I know.
@@luisangelini2220 That's it!
@@luisangelini2220 lmao gpu dont give bsod, its your system problems.....ask people who know stuff to test your pc and they will find problem.
I owned all the RDNAs GPUs from AMD... I had ZERO issues. And yeah, all of the time people are mentioning AMD drivers, they are usually shill or tech illiterates.
@@NostalgicMem0ries Oh god, a kid who knows nothing about hardware/systems tells me what should I do. I've been assembling/using PC before they where even AT. Do you know what that is? Go google it.
I have a 6800xt that would only work for non Nvidia games. EVERY game that was Nvidia sponsored (like metro exodus, cp2077, control) the card would black screen within a few minutes of loading into the game world. Not to mention poor performance in VR with Q2.
I switched to the 3080ti a few months before the 40’s launched 😢
The 6800xt is sitting on a shelf collecting dust
Now I’m really wanting to upgrade to either the 4090,4080, or 7900xtx so I can play the new CP2077 expansion with RT overdrive at 4k 60 or in VR with Luke Ross’s AER mod bit that would likely require the 4090😢
BabelTech Reviews said the XTX was pretty poor performing compared to the top 40 cards when it launched but planned to revisit it later after drivers had matured.
Im also on a 5600x cpu😕
Black friday should have good deals this year, I think
Imagine spending $1000+ on a GPU and having to deal with all these issues. If you're going to buy a new GPU you might as well pay a bit extra and not have to deal with issues all the time.
I got a 4080 for $1015 :)
@@Vanity7k used one?
@@armandoarroyo open box untouched, I unboxed it in a video!
WHY PEOPLE STILL BUY AMD IS BEYOND ME YES ITS CHEAPER BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING IF THERE ARE ISSUE AFTER ISSUE. THEY ARENT NVIDIA AND NEVER WILL BE BUT KEEP THE FAITH.
Amd gpus favor the patient soooooooo much. Yeah you gotta fiddle with them sometimes but man you cannot beat the performance for the $.
I’m building my first pc next month after the 7800x3D releases, I don’t play VR, I’m not interested in ray tracing and the only things I do are play games, emulate games on RPCS3 (PS3) and Yuzu (Switch) would you recommend the 7900 XTX or the 4080, would like to save a few hundred if i can
Definitely the 7900 XTX in that case. Apparently some people also have issues with the 4080 drivers, but I haven’t had any issues at all with the 4080. If you’re on the fence, I just uploaded a 4080 review.
@@Vanity7k in the latest nvidia driver there is a bug that consume cpu resource after you cosle a game or after boot the system... check task manager nvidia container process
@@saafff5465 i saw that! It hasn’t affected me yet, however, it could be that I haven’t noticed any issues with it yet because I have a 5900x..
Gpu dont matter its more cpu based for emulation
Just ordered everything for my 7950x3d - 7900 xtx build. My first time away from Nvidia, hopefully it’s a good card people need to start voting with their wallets Nvidia is getting out of hand.
Bought a 7900XTX ASROCK 1200$
Black and white screen/constant crashing MW2
Have done fresh windows everything possible drivers in and out.
Total garbage, returning and getting a 4090.
Sorry to hear you also had a bunch of issues, hope you enjoy the 4090!
I bought my XTX for $770 after tax 💀
Niceee, where from?
@@Vanity7k South Africa
I got the xtx as well. I played with it for a couple of weeks but never pulled out my oculus. Refunded it for a 4080, played with it for 3 weeks, refunded it for a 4090. Sad thing is now I have nothing to upgrade it to lol. I need another hobby 😂
Must of had a bad card - I do all those things and have no issues
I had the same kinda experience with amd, got a 5700 xt back on release, had loads of issues crashes driver problems, returned it and went back to Nvidia, had many cards since then all Nvidia cards no problems, just had a 6700 xt back to having issues straight away, returned it and got a used 3090 founders edition for 650, no problems at all again, I'll stick with the team that's given me no issues, sad cause amd is good value for money but too many issues.
Yeah I wish AMD had their shit together
What kind of issues did you have on your 6700xt? Mine has been solid for me for over a year. Actually just sold it to step up to the 6950xt
@@JBrinx18 Random black screen lock ups, crashes when tabbing out of games, drivers randomly just resetting to default settings removing custom fan curve or undervolts, that's on latest drivers wether I was using custom gpu settings or completely default, now had my 3090 for a week not a single issue with my pc at all.
@@UlrichLeland I do remember some custom fan curves resetting on me, and some restoration to default settings on an overclock. Once I stopped messing with those haven't had any issues. The two things on the 3090 that worried me from getting it was the lack of freesync over HDMI, since I plug it into a 4k 120Hz TV, and the high power spikes, which was reported to have issues on my particular 750w power supply. Sorry to hear about your crashes and black screen issues though, sounds crappy
@@JBrinx18 It's annoying, fan curves and overclocking are supposed to be features that you can use without it breaking the drivers, I had those problems regardless of changing anything though, my 3090 just works as I expect it to, overclocking or not, as for the high power spikes, I have mine undervolted to 0.900 MV, power limit maxxed out and memory overclocked by 700 mhz, max power i've seen from it was 380w.
I deadass thought he put fried chicken on a GPU
so now XTX’s are going for $930-$999. Are they worth it? I have a boxed 7900xt that I bought last November for $989……now XTX are low as $932 🤦♂️
At the prices that they are rn.. i’d say the XTX is worth it. This video was made months ago before the drivers were fixed, prices had dropped, etc
@@Vanity7k I couldn’t resist, ended up ordering the MSI trio XTX for $940. Especially since I saw other models like Powercolor/XFX going back up to $1000< again, I figured i’d lose my chance to grab one for less. Just gonna try sell my 79xt and hopefully make some money back lol. Posted on ebay for $850. My friend said I should’ve got a 4080 but I have faith in AMD to continue to improve the performance of the XTX. Also I wanted a full AMD build. I plan to use the XTX with the 5800x3d
@@_N4VE_ thanks for updating me, hope all goes well!
I like tinkering, I'm very much nerd when it comes to performance, so the 7900 xtx has been something I have... Absolutely been eyeing out for, especially the Aorus XTX Elite. Those aren't yet available in EU but should arrive in few weeks. I've heard from others that the card has lots of tiny issues, which ultimately would put most users off due to seeking reliability and stability from their graphics card, and I think it's reasonable to expect that not many users will be willing to compromise it. In this department Nvidia shines almost always with the new releases and out of the box experiences. Intels new 770A is also something to look out for imo. There's a lot of good with in these GPU's, but ultimately from customer standpoint of looking for reliability from the product, I would go with the 6000 series AMD GPU's or Nvidia's offerings. 7000 Radeon is looking to be decent card over time... But that's not a selling point and it shouldn't. I hope AMD gets their drivers optimized, because the card is just fascinating and unique.
Agreed
They do age like fine wine though :)
@@onomatopoeia162003 That's not a sales pitch, nor something to be taken at face value. They've done a great job at it, but you should never be sold at a promise on something, you're just burning money like 90% of the Kickstarters.
@@Ezz0Clan If you really don't care about RT. Which i would agree in another video I saw recently that it's a gimmick. Just like hairFX was. (When it doesn't hamper the fps) And you don't use CUDA cores. Then why would you want an Nividia. Unless someone is a fanboy. Am I missing something here?
It was $975 for me and the xt was like $789, I ordered the xt first but then wanted the extra 20 fps so got the xtx
How are the drivers now? They fixed minecraft, and so csgo is their worst game now so im going to wait until cs2 releases before buying it as i want performance in cs2 to be on par with a 4080 or higher
I did a lot of research! Hrs of it... went with the 4080 as I got it on sale and didn't like the issues Id seen on the AMD side.
I wanted to be able to use the Nvidia recording, better RT, better power usage and thermals, the dlss3.0, and the better drivers
Hmm you had to make sure to say "better" twice then you leave out all the problems NV 4080 are having. Not everone is having issues with AMD 7900xtx same with Nv 4080. Oooh NV Fan I get it so yeah AMD just tons more issues...just worse I see now. So what NV over priced the the 40 series pffft. And what do all those top known reviewers know about NV overpricing the 40 series .. they were all wrong huh. $1199 fair price..so what NV tried to lie to everyone with the TWO 4080 haha.. now the 4070TI. To show NV how wrong they really were.... people buy NV anyway. Showed them!
@@DosBlade I got mine on sale for a better price. It was over 100% better than my 2070 super and was a better price to performance for what they were asking for 30 series GPUs still.
If I hadn't seen it on sale, I probably would have got the AMD cards, but I saw a better deal on the 4080.
I hope you feel better though.
I better go I'm busy today. Have a good one mate
@@GregoryShtevensh I really like how you dealt with that guy trying to gaslight you into a pointless argument created by him. Mad respect sir.
@@AJ-po6up haha thanks
absolutely no problems with quest 2 VR . all my pc games at 1440p run ultra 200 fps butter smooth temp no higher then 55 c merc 310 7900xtx
thank you for this. i am looking at this gpu for my current build (building two PC's and already have the ASRock OC Formula 6950XT for one of them) and it is nice to hear an honest review from an unbiased perspective. your video was straight and to the point, with no fluff... i appreciate that as well!! keep up the good work 👍
Much appreciated!
do not buy amd, its such a fkin head ache im exchanging my 7900xtx for 4080
You just hit bad luck with your AMD GPU , not sure if you a NVIDIA fan boy , but don't let this one experience put you off AMD GPU's , NVIDIA have their fair share of Fuck Up's but NVIDIA Fan Boys act like NVIDIA cant do no wrong. I have been in the PC Game for a Loooooong Time , and have had many NVIDIA and AMD GPU's and the amount of BULLSHIT Pushed by NVIDIA FAN BOYS about how bad AMD Cards are is a Load of Bullshit. At this point in time AMD and NVIDIA OWE Me , for the amount of money i have thrown at them through the years , Majority of the PC Tech channels Kids were either not around or to young to even know what a PC was when I was in the game , so trust me I have played on Both Sides of the isle , and nGreedia are not the Wonder-full Company the Fanboys love to make out they are. NVIDIA know how to pull the wool over gamers eyes especially their FAN BOYS , I remember when physics X was the new thing and how the NVIDIA Fan Boys would go wild about it , it was just a gimmick just like DLSS , so they drop your resolution so low so the card can pump out more frames then sell you the idea the card is working better with DLSS , just so you know a TV can upscale on the Fly and it don't have a 4080 GPU DLSS is the next Physics X but the FAN Boys are Blind and Dumb. I watch the NVIDIA Fan Boys they claim FSR is not as Good as DLSS but when you watch the videos without bias. You can clearly see the NVIDIA GPU has artifact;s in DLSS , but they will claim that only AMD CARD have artifact in the games or are not rendering as nice as NVIDIA.
I have RX 6600 the driver would randomly crash just by hovering over RUclips thumbnails. But now I think it is a lot better. Instead, my friends with GTX 1660 Ti's can't play Hogwarts Legacy at 1080p low possibly due to driver issue.
That’s unfortunate
I’m playing Hogwarts Legacy on my 1660 ti laptop with frames averaging above 90fps at 1080p at High settings with FSR 2.0 turned to Quality.
@@ALiLSpiderr 1080p Ultra 80-90 fps on my RX 6600. No FSR.
i have the rx 6600 sapphire pulse... 0 crash with stock settings 🤣... undervolted and overclocked 2700mhz🤣... i update all Drivers at day 1.. even the optional.. no crash
@@saafff5465 what's so funny?
i have a 7900xt. I can definitely confirm most of what you said. VR isnt that great 90 percent of the time but sometimes works great and i have no clue what cause the difference. Sometimes ill get over 90fps ultra settings on project wingman and other times itll be 40ish and the glass on from the canopy will flicker. Games definitely crash alot when you first play them and less the more you do. Im going to stick to it, like my buddy said it will only get better. Ray tracing is sad but to be honest i can barely tell the difference when its on in game. Guess i dont look at the right spots or something.
Yeahh, still a good card and i’m sure they’ll fix the issues later on
I have the same Card and its running fine with no issues. Your Card must be faulty, my temps arent to o crazy as well.
Glad it works for you! I’m happy with my 4080
It's actually sad man. Look, I'll admit I'm an AMD fanboy, and almost every PC enthusiast leans one way or the other whether they want to admit it or not, but if I had to upgrade my 6800 XT, I would most likely (at least for now) go with a 4000 from Nvidia. Last generation there were way more incentives to go for AMD, but this generation? Not so much. Both are expensive as hell! I even had to deal with the BSOD and reinstalling of Windows after updating my GPU driver. Absolutely unacceptable. That being said, OC potential is crazy, all I do is video editing, coding, 1440p gaming, and therefore all I need FOR NOW is a 6800 XT. We'll see if AMD can improve their 7000 series through updates and such. Great video!
Thanks for sharing, much appreciated!
I’m a little confused on the streaming aspect of the video. Are you saying that the 4080 will work better on default settings? Also with the AMD would you have to change settings every time you want I stream, edit, VR, etc?
Nvidia has their NVENC encoder which is better for streaming, with the AMD card I tried a lot of different settings and it works well but I had to mess with it way more. VR at the time I recorded this video performed awful on the XTX, not sure about it now since I got the 4080 for $1015 and haven’t looked back..