I'm wondering why no one is talking about Q. Giving two names instead of one? Q felt invalidated by Plane Jane earlier. Yet, she did the same thing to Xunami. Later on in the episode. It's giving hypocrite vibes. Especially, seeing as Q. Didn’t seem to get why. Xunami was feeling the way, she was feeling. Which is perfectly justifiable. Unless, it gets addressed in this week's episode 🤷♂️
i'm really glad you brought up that megami mentioned the queens aren't allowed to move from the back of the stage during eliminations because i was watching mirage cry and thinking why no one was doing anything 😭😭
yeah same. I was like can anyone go hug her? There seems to be some weird rules on the production, I think it would be better if it was a bit more free and natural. Seems a bit formulaic.
I’m tired of ppl outing ppl, or telling people how their story should be told. It’s their life, their story, let them share it how they feel comfortable sharing it. Not all men are the same, not all women are the same, nor are trans women. It’s toxic to tell anyone you are not straight enough, gay enough, or fem enough.
Even straight cisgender people deal with this when our behavior or interests don't match gender expectations. I went through full blown identity crisis because of it and I know others who did as well. Sad reality.
So far I’m feeling like Nymphia has the edge. Really strong sense of identity but isn’t pigeonholed by it, has a ton of strengths which she keeps to herself, pushes weird boundaries like having her drag iconography be themed around a phallic fruit, like, she’s a lot of fun to watch. Fun personality, very personable with the other queens, a chaos gremlin. Love it!
Hearing you read Bob's lyrics has me HOLLERING. Its giving AI assistant. I didnt plan on listening to Bob's diss anyway, so thank you for sharing the reads!
The Maddie and Bob "drama" was hilarious. Also I dont know why everyone is having on Megami. She wrote Nymphias verae, helped Geneva with hers, and helped with some of the choreo. She's been in my top 4 since pre-season and I can't wait to see her other comedy performances.
Honestly, I've completely fallen in love with Megami. She's so talented, *hilarious* and has such a nice energy about her. She doesnt get nearly enough credit from the show. Her presence at Roscoe's really solidified how much I adore her.
"I'm not very political and I don't follow politics." Plane Jane ---- did you not see the reception Gigi Goode got after saying that on s12? The 5 G's for sure 😅🤦♀️
Right !...to not acknowledge the most hate filled party to the LGBTQ+ community only shows they are not really an ally to the whole community. I mean how can they not know about politics in America. Especially what happened on jan6th. He should really think on that statement. Plane Jane don't be a trump, you know a lying idiot.
it's also not fair to force your opinions onto other people. It really rubbed me the wrong way the entitlement of telling someone that they aren't doing enough and should do better.
@@amcuevas it comes with the territory sure but we all have free will. So she isn't required to do anything that she doesn't want to do. It's not cool to try and force someone to do something they might not want to do
I dont really dont understand why people tell trans people how to be trans. Im cisgendered, gay, and white so i dont have any leg in this race but i do have empathy for my fellow trans siblings. Everyone has their own journy to being their authentic self. Just because someone transitions doesnt mean they have to conform to the social gender norms. Just do what makes you feel happy and confident. And respect peoples journey and who they identify as. Its really not hard to do.
I'm a 43 yr old trans woman who has transitioned fully and I can tell you that didn't happen until I was 37. It took many years of gender dysphoria and therapy to finally make that choice. Everyone's journey is different and for anyone to claim Amanda isn't trans enough is just plain disgusting. She doesn't owe any of us an explanation either and it's her choice to come forward when she's ready which she has done now. I wish her nothing but the best and I support her 100% 🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵
I understand but it just seemed intentional to me to come on one of the biggest platforms a queer person can have at this point and not acknowledge your trans until after and Then Start your hormone journey seems intentional. Like Amanda is just an ok drag queen but with them not being trans all of a sudden there considered Heroes and their faults within the artform seem less important. It’s just giving very much that some queens that come on the show now realizing to use this to they’re advantage
Yay for you! I think its extra sad and frustrating when the illegitimate hate comes from within the LGBTQ+ community too. If anyone should know better, it should be us in the community but of course that's not how it works. Willful ignorance is truly a plague in America and way too many other countries.
I feel like they left out the shut up stupid to protect Ross. The fandom really don't care for him on the show. His critiques are often times idiotic, nonsensical and stupid. We'd probably be cheering Amanda more for calling Ross out if it was aired.
I had never heard that the queens themselves chose what episode to appear at Roscoe's. It makes total sense, though. I wish I had been able to see the interaction, if there was any, with Amanda and Jane!
I don’t buy it tbh. Maybe that changed recently but up to two-three seasons ago that was week by week accurate that the guest was going home. Only now they started to be more cautious.
@@wirusptasiejgrypythe queens agents basically ask if they wanna go to Roscoe's when they get eliminated or if they wanna do a different episode, which is why some weeks have two queens from the season. Most say yes to their elimination episode so they can get a positive response from the crowd
I watched the pit stop, and I, so were all of the audience and Trixie and Maddie in the episode as well, waiting for Bobs response bc you know it would come. So then two days later I just see that Maddie has a planned video with some diss track for Bob and I was screaming! Then I watched both of their respective videos back to back and that was such a good thing! That pit stop, to then those two power diss tracks were just the highlight of my weekend! But I’m not as active on ig and stuff, so didn’t see the other queens reactions, so I’m screaming and living for all of their reactions!! Being acknowledged by THE verse royalty Bob, then the other queens just living for Maddie and Coco - best thing ever! 😂👏🏽👏🏽
It’s so great that you do these videos, we appreciate you! Love that I can watch your (excellent) summaries for a fun and concise recap of so many events! You’re very skilled, and I love your vids! Thanks!
I think they'll invite Amanda back like Vanjie and Shangela. She deserves it, she's funny and talented, her drag now is just not that polished but that can be fixed in a year no problem.
How ? I’m not going to lie i I feel like the only reason people like her is because she came out as trans because she didn’t give much to the show in terms of looks why wild somebody who was justifiably eliminated get the probity to come back .
@@cushe83i liked her on the show and honestly didn't know she came out as trans until this video since I'm not an active social media person. I liked her bc she showed shes quick and she's witty, and not a pushover standing up for herself against plane who wanted a target to give herself the villain edit. Plus she's a pretty fucking good dancer. Idk she has natural charisma. With more time and money to push to the aesthetics, I can see her do well
@@yikesman2717 yeah but that didn’t always translate to consistent work and a a consistent fanbase when you leave the show. Like I said without the trans arch Amanda is an ok drag queen so I’m not stories if people are keeping Clips in the chamber to make the tenure on the show more memorable after and it’s a little …I don’t know. But you’re not allowed to say anything
Thanks for including the still of Roscoe's. Chicago relatives were so impressed when I mentioned I had visited Roscoe's the evening before to see some favorite performers. Since we were in my Oregon home at the time they were surprised. 😁 They had been to Roscoe's but knew nothing of the watch parties or about Drag Race either. She had never heard of RuPaul. She's eastern European but went to school here. Attorney. Too busy to bother with pop culture. Her hubby, my Chicago born nephew, was more aware. He knew who RuPaul is but hadn't heard about Drag Race. They had fun at Roscoe's.
there's something really off about plane jane imo. and to hear she came to roscoe's on amanda's night? lowkey sounds like intimidation or something idk its weird.
Is funny how people keep beating around the bush with plane Jane were it’s obvious they’re a bully but noone is willing to use that Word when it comes to them. I’ve never seen someone come on this show with the intention of being a villain and not get a villain edit. #Privilege
Im also starting to wonder if Jane has a crush on Amanda and since she is Russian, the toxicmasculinity that was instilled as a child is still "hanging in there" and thus she ends up bullying Amanda. Like a kid with a crush pulling on their crushes hair but now that theyre adults it comes out in verbal attacks. Jane did for real compliment Amanda out of drag about her gorgeous bone structure and face. Not saying this makes it okay but could be a reason why. Ooorrr Janes ego is just out of control and she saw Amanda as "weak" and has to feed that ego.
Due to working way too many hours, I have not watched the latest season of Canada's drag race nor the current US season. However, I did see the pit stop episode with Maddy as well as both dis tracks. Each track is hilarious and I hope they each do one more.
Ok, the part of Plane being in the audience when Amanda was there was pretty weird (and also a little bit creepy). Like if she was there only so Amanda wouldn't expose too much of her opinion on Plane or something like that. That's kinda wild. It gives me a little of stalker behavior ngl
Was Plane Jane there to intimidate Amanda? Like has she just become a straight up stalker now, because Amanda had the audacity to call her out? Haha, like that is kinda dubious to me. Production is very opportunistic on Drag Race, but they focus too much on narrative and not on meaningful conversation. What Megami said her and PJ said really deserved to be shown to us, but I guess they didn’t see a point in bringing any depth to either of them when they’re making Megami a filler queen and Plane is happily being a horrible person. I watch Valery on RUclips and am disappointed in this. The gatekeeping of the trans experience is really nasty and, when Amanda explained herself, she should’ve backed off as opposed to continuing with the gatekeeping and locking an apology behind a “Well I’ll acknowledge my wrongdoing if she wants me to.” Haha
How tacky of that RUclipsr. It’s so lowly imo when content creators use these antagonistic methods targeting artist to get them to respond to get engagements.
Amanda has served consecutively subpar performances and looks throughout the show. Yes, she can dance well and choreograph, but that ain't enough. We love a villain and I support Plane Jane's desire to be a massive bitch. Like... no one said you have to be nice? It's TV.
Roscos need to be more careful with the queens spoiling the season. It’s not only the people who get eliminated, is other eliminated or win the episode. This week Megami won the episode. Last week, Mirage was eliminated. That’s what happened last season too. It’s so frustrating. They know what they’re doing
Roscoe's isn't part of production, if they let the queens pick, they have no way of knowing whether they're spoiling anything or not. If anything, the queens are spoiling their own eliminations.
Amanda comes off as being very petulant and terrible at being criticized in basically every venue. You are a media personality now, girl. Grow a spine.
Of all times to go to Roscoe's why does Plain gotta go the day of Amanda's appearance? Idk, maybe they actually hung out afterwards...but seeing them on tv, it kinda feels like she was there to be messy... but whatta i know
If Amanda did yell at Ross, she should because he's so insufferable and mean to the contestants by giving sassy and unhelpful comments. This is opposed to Carson who doesn't help, but doesn't degrade and is funnier.
Carson is a gem and is actually really funny. Always self deprecating, warm and never mean to the queens. He knows a lot about fashion and gives very qualified opinions. Ross Matthews is a dumpster fire of a human being who seems stuck in 2013 when that type of media personality was way too common. He's not funny, I hate his style, he has no track record outside of the show - why should we care. He's this generation's Nick Santino
Hearing another one of the s16 queens say about Jane that they view her as a “co-worker” makes me feel like it’s not just the edit she’s being given bc we know how producers/editors can be. But even so & just from the energy Megami & Amanda have given at these Roscoe’s viewing parties; it seems like she’s a difficult & rude person. Unprovoked, & to ppl it seems like she’s made no real effort to get to know?? I hope the best for ALL the S16 queens but Jane should learn when & with who she should be that c*nty diva with bc it’d be a flat out lie to say at least personally, that I don’t live for a sassy shady queen, but Jane’s comments have just felt mean & with little to no sense of humor to me. I said I felt.
Plain Jane isn’t even that interesting let be honest. She give of high school girl who thinks she looks cute when being rude. Like she’s a cheap version of Katya/Jimbo from Wish lol not even Shein
Okay so Jane being in the audience… for a queen saying whatever comes in her mind left and right, with no regards as to how it may rub ppl the wrong way, she’s awfully concerned about what other queens could say. Like why would you come to roscoes if it’s not to sit with the others on stage or to at least make fun drama as an audience member and reveal yourself. To go there and then wanting them to act as if you’re not there…whilst the queen you had beef with, will probably get questions about you. That’s like a silent threat. Like damn they could have made a thing with Amanda answering and being like: “what do you think, Jane. Since you are here anyways”. When I heard she was there I was like maybe they had some enemies to lovers story going on after the show but yeah of course it’s the creepy silent in the audience. But yeah they should have just talked directly to her or acted as if she wasn’t there. Bc I would be like I dare you Jane, to threaten me with sitting in the audience. Bc as if Amanda can’t say it to her face, when they were literally fighting with each other. But idk 🤷🏽♀️
I hate it when queens get upset for being picked last in this show. That's life, move on and grow up. It makes them look insecure and that is NOT winner behavior.
If someone I care for is collapsed on the floor and bawling her eyes out in front of the cameras, rules or no rules - I would have run to her without any thinking and at the very least would have helped her up and offstage (I mean no offense to the others who didn't). I just don't see the need to prolong the eliminated queen's misery and I'm sure it felt like an eternity to Mirage before she found her legs again. If RuPaul wants to cite anyone for that (should it ever happen) I'd die to hear about it. At least we'd then know if the Queen of Drag has any _genuine_ emotion for the contestants that break down in front of her. It's interesting: RuPaul has stated on many occasions that she'd turned down concepts for drag-based reality competition for years because she didn't want to be a part of something that could genuinely harm someone. She also said that eliminations were very difficult for her the first couple of years. Knowing this, she really succeeded in her breaking that annoying habit. God know she's stone-cold nowadays unless it involves Roxxxy Andrews, a wig reveal, and a Greyhound station, or any combination of the three.
Agree 💯 and I think it's also important to remember the real timeline. We saw Mirage's elimination, an immediate outpouring of love and the start of a potentially great career. But the elimination happened months ago in reality. In all that time, after that horrible experience, Mirage would not have known how the edit would show her or how she'd be received by fans. There's serious potential for harm with the way they treat people. Its really making me re-evaluate my love of the show tbh 😢
I haven’t loved what Megami has been putting out that much but she’s so sweet and lovely it broke my heart she was picked last. Also I don’t think she should’ve gone home. Mihya turned her lip synch into a joke and I feel like it was unfair. Megami also killed the flowers outfit. I mean the fucking vertical pink flowers she had in between the puckers and pleats on the skirt was so cool
IDK about anyone else, but ever since the 1st episode when Dawn was talking about Megami and said she was known for being "the eeyore of drag" i cant help but see that now everytime i see her! Megami really does seem like a debbie-downer from what the show has shown and from what the queens have said themselves. Just my 2 cents noone asked for.
@@Cardboardwater Because she is! Even at Roscoe's, I could just hear the Eeyore voice saying "I was picked last and I had a mental breakdown". Obviously, she feels how she feels, but the way she framed the story at first seems very that.
@@pengwinsRus girl come on being picked last in front of national TV can be very psychologically damaging! God forbid she shares her vulnerabilities and ate up the next episode with a challenge win because she was determined to prove those who doubted her wrong. Debbie downers don’t redeem themselves the way Megami did and I have to respectfully disagree with u
@@Cardboardwater I just disagree that redeeming herself and being Eeyore/Debbie Downer are related or tied together. I also don't thing she needs "redeeming" from being Eeyore; Eeyore is a lovable character in spite of and because of his personality. I'm just saying that when you're a reality television personality, it behooves you to play up positive emotions and control the narrative of your negative emotions better. On the show, of course, you have less control over it because of production, but at Roscoe's for instance it might have been better for her to focus on how determined she was because she had a breakdown rather than to lead with and focus on the breakdown itself.
@@pengwinsRus understandable! However I was going off the context of the main comment made where the writer did correlate Debbie downer with being Eeyore 🤷♀️. It’s honestly refreshing to see someone be vulnerable in a humble manner. Not everything has to be super positive
Well, they are there to compete for quite some money. I don't feel Plane Jane is sooooo wrong. If anything, they should all be super competitive and use their strategies. Winning is a big thing, lots is at stake. I would enjoy if everyone was strategic and shady. And I would understand why. This being said, I like the cast this year, there are clearly few standouts but I am glad all these Queens have been picked and got the chance to show us their art. Good luck and warm hugs to all the Queens ❤
So Plane Jane is now out in the community staking and silently bullying Amanda. Nice. If you know you trated Amaca like that how about you don't need to be in the building LOOMING and lurking.
I clearly remember them showing Amanda yelling, “Shut Up Stupid,” during the Cher runway. Am I experiencing a Mandela Effect or what? ETA: I just rewatched the runway and it doesn’t exist! 🤯 But I swear to Peaches Christ that I saw that happen and I even rewound it at the time I was watching it because I was impressed at the quick-wittedness!
Plane is the best thing to happen to Drag Race in years. Hopefully Plane's success will inspire a new generation of queens that rebel against the toxic and hypocritical purist twitter/reddit culture. Just give the middle finger to the moral musings of 14yo America.
What did you think of this week's episode?
you're referring to the new verses? absolute fire.
I'm wondering why no one is talking about Q. Giving two names instead of one? Q felt invalidated by Plane Jane earlier. Yet, she did the same thing to Xunami. Later on in the episode. It's giving hypocrite vibes. Especially, seeing as Q. Didn’t seem to get why. Xunami was feeling the way, she was feeling. Which is perfectly justifiable. Unless, it gets addressed in this week's episode 🤷♂️
Maddy trolling around with Bob while completely ignoring Dax is everything
What happened with Dax 💀
@@jynxthaclown3995oh babe Dax was v mad on twitter and it turned into a whole rant. it wasn’t cute but hopefully just blowing steam
@@ShatanDukeomg why was she mad?
Dax? Not the nerd... (iykyk)
Dax pissed that a straight man is more relevant than her 😢
the shade between maddy and bob is the drag race drama i will stand behind. its lighthearted fun. this is how you are shady in the best way.
It also shows off their talents! If you're gonna get in a feud with another drag queen please show off your charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent.
I need Plane to take notes
“Shut up, stupid,” definitely got left out because they sent her home lmao
they didn’t send her home that episode lmfao
Amanda did go home wdym@@azari_osaka
@@azari_osaka omg so true bestie I’m an idiot 😂
Give Amanda a few more years. I hope she comes back for an AS season and blow us away. Team Nymphia btw! ❤️
#teamnymphia ❤❤❤
Imagine she come back with Selina estties and talk shit to Ross 😶😂😂
@@kelvin54100 the messiness of it all. Haha!
Exactly!!! For both Amanda and Mirage!
I feel she’ll make all stars 12
Honestly….. Maddy ATE
i'm really glad you brought up that megami mentioned the queens aren't allowed to move from the back of the stage during eliminations because i was watching mirage cry and thinking why no one was doing anything 😭😭
yeah same. I was like can anyone go hug her?
There seems to be some weird rules on the production, I think it would be better if it was a bit more free and natural. Seems a bit formulaic.
When Megami cried for being picked last it hurt my heart so bad. Then to see her do so well…I was so happy!
I’m tired of ppl outing ppl, or telling people how their story should be told. It’s their life, their story, let them share it how they feel comfortable sharing it. Not all men are the same, not all women are the same, nor are trans women. It’s toxic to tell anyone you are not straight enough, gay enough, or fem enough.
Even straight cisgender people deal with this when our behavior or interests don't match gender expectations. I went through full blown identity crisis because of it and I know others who did as well. Sad reality.
So far I’m feeling like Nymphia has the edge. Really strong sense of identity but isn’t pigeonholed by it, has a ton of strengths which she keeps to herself, pushes weird boundaries like having her drag iconography be themed around a phallic fruit, like, she’s a lot of fun to watch. Fun personality, very personable with the other queens, a chaos gremlin. Love it!
Hearing you read Bob's lyrics has me HOLLERING. Its giving AI assistant.
I didnt plan on listening to Bob's diss anyway, so thank you for sharing the reads!
The Maddie and Bob "drama" was hilarious. Also I dont know why everyone is having on Megami. She wrote Nymphias verae, helped Geneva with hers, and helped with some of the choreo. She's been in my top 4 since pre-season and I can't wait to see her other comedy performances.
Loved Maddie’s response video. “Clear your sinus’s ” 😂😂
the pics of roscoe's omg. i just figured it was a crowd of standing gays like my local bar. makes sense how the q and a is so organized lol.
😂🤣🤣🤣 everyone is calling plane Jane COWORKER 💀💀💀💀💀🤣😂 lmaoo we all should stick to that nickname to address her
Lol i love this😂
i mean they know you'll get followers, from the titter crowd
We’ll see when the shows finish’s band the real race begins so far I’m living for PJ never disappoints to be entertaining
Honestly, I've completely fallen in love with Megami. She's so talented, *hilarious* and has such a nice energy about her. She doesnt get nearly enough credit from the show. Her presence at Roscoe's really solidified how much I adore her.
I was at this Roscoe's!!! The manager realised I was a fan from England so he gave us a guest list ticket. It was great fun
"I'm not very political and I don't follow politics." Plane Jane ---- did you not see the reception Gigi Goode got after saying that on s12? The 5 G's for sure 😅🤦♀️
Right !...to not acknowledge the most hate filled party to the LGBTQ+ community only shows they are not really an ally to the whole community. I mean how can they not know about politics in America. Especially what happened on jan6th. He should really think on that statement. Plane Jane don't be a trump, you know a lying idiot.
it's also not fair to force your opinions onto other people. It really rubbed me the wrong way the entitlement of telling someone that they aren't doing enough and should do better.
@@randomkid4783comes with the gig, at least in the US. Gotta step up, especially when you're under attack by right-wing policies.
@@amcuevas it comes with the territory sure but we all have free will. So she isn't required to do anything that she doesn't want to do. It's not cool to try and force someone to do something they might not want to do
@@randomkid4783 and she doesn't HAVE to do it, but she should expect the blowback and the side eye.
Ohhh, I thought Roscoe's had mini isolated tables set up like a comedy club. Some seated, some standing. Thanks for that pic. 😂
Same
I dont really dont understand why people tell trans people how to be trans. Im cisgendered, gay, and white so i dont have any leg in this race but i do have empathy for my fellow trans siblings. Everyone has their own journy to being their authentic self. Just because someone transitions doesnt mean they have to conform to the social gender norms. Just do what makes you feel happy and confident. And respect peoples journey and who they identify as. Its really not hard to do.
I totally agree. I don't get it, other than I think it's probably just that hurt, traumatized people hurt and traumatize people.
megami seems like she'd be a good friend if you knew her in real life
Frr
I love megami
She's a great mix of shady and compassionate
I'm a 43 yr old trans woman who has transitioned fully and I can tell you that didn't happen until I was 37. It took many years of gender dysphoria and therapy to finally make that choice. Everyone's journey is different and for anyone to claim Amanda isn't trans enough is just plain disgusting. She doesn't owe any of us an explanation either and it's her choice to come forward when she's ready which she has done now. I wish her nothing but the best and I support her 100% 🩵🩷🤍🩷🩵
I'm really happy for you.
@@joannac.3782 thank you 🥰 I am too, I can't tell you how amazing it is to feel comfortable in your skin. It was a long journey for me!!
Perfectly said!!
I understand but it just seemed intentional to me to come on one of the biggest platforms a queer person can have at this point and not acknowledge your trans until after and Then Start your hormone journey seems intentional. Like Amanda is just an ok drag queen but with them not being trans all of a sudden there considered Heroes and their faults within the artform seem less important. It’s just giving very much that some queens that come on the show now realizing to use this to they’re advantage
Yay for you! I think its extra sad and frustrating when the illegitimate hate comes from within the LGBTQ+ community too. If anyone should know better, it should be us in the community but of course that's not how it works. Willful ignorance is truly a plague in America and way too many other countries.
I feel like they left out the shut up stupid to protect Ross. The fandom really don't care for him on the show. His critiques are often times idiotic, nonsensical and stupid. We'd probably be cheering Amanda more for calling Ross out if it was aired.
I had never heard that the queens themselves chose what episode to appear at Roscoe's. It makes total sense, though.
I wish I had been able to see the interaction, if there was any, with Amanda and Jane!
I don’t buy it tbh. Maybe that changed recently but up to two-three seasons ago that was week by week accurate that the guest was going home. Only now they started to be more cautious.
@@wirusptasiejgrypy Yes, because the queens CHOSE to be there on their elimination episode.
@@wirusptasiejgrypythe queens agents basically ask if they wanna go to Roscoe's when they get eliminated or if they wanna do a different episode, which is why some weeks have two queens from the season. Most say yes to their elimination episode so they can get a positive response from the crowd
I watched the pit stop, and I, so were all of the audience and Trixie and Maddie in the episode as well, waiting for Bobs response bc you know it would come. So then two days later I just see that Maddie has a planned video with some diss track for Bob and I was screaming! Then I watched both of their respective videos back to back and that was such a good thing! That pit stop, to then those two power diss tracks were just the highlight of my weekend!
But I’m not as active on ig and stuff, so didn’t see the other queens reactions, so I’m screaming and living for all of their reactions!! Being acknowledged by THE verse royalty Bob, then the other queens just living for Maddie and Coco - best thing ever! 😂👏🏽👏🏽
Season 16 is probably the season I have enjoyed the most since season 8. I really enjoy this season a looot
The way I love to say "AND DRAMA" together with Matt is so addicted
Plane being in the audience during Amanda's episode is giving stalker vibes. LOL.
RIGHT???? 😅
It’s so great that you do these videos, we appreciate you! Love that I can watch your (excellent) summaries for a fun and concise recap of so many events! You’re very skilled, and I love your vids! Thanks!
I think they'll invite Amanda back like Vanjie and Shangela. She deserves it, she's funny and talented, her drag now is just not that polished but that can be fixed in a year no problem.
How ? I’m not going to lie i I feel like the only reason people like her is because she came out as trans because she didn’t give much to the show in terms of looks why wild somebody who was justifiably eliminated get the probity to come back .
@@cushe83i liked her on the show and honestly didn't know she came out as trans until this video since I'm not an active social media person. I liked her bc she showed shes quick and she's witty, and not a pushover standing up for herself against plane who wanted a target to give herself the villain edit. Plus she's a pretty fucking good dancer. Idk she has natural charisma. With more time and money to push to the aesthetics, I can see her do well
@@yikesman2717 yeah but that didn’t always translate to consistent work and a a consistent fanbase when you leave the show. Like I said without the trans arch Amanda is an ok drag queen so I’m not stories if people are keeping Clips in the chamber to make the tenure on the show more memorable after and it’s a little …I don’t know. But you’re not allowed to say anything
Thanks for including the still of Roscoe's. Chicago relatives were so impressed when I mentioned I had visited Roscoe's the evening before to see some favorite performers. Since we were in my Oregon home at the time they were surprised. 😁 They had been to Roscoe's but knew nothing of the watch parties or about Drag Race either. She had never heard of RuPaul. She's eastern European but went to school here. Attorney. Too busy to bother with pop culture. Her hubby, my Chicago born nephew, was more aware. He knew who RuPaul is but hadn't heard about Drag Race. They had fun at Roscoe's.
there's something really off about plane jane imo. and to hear she came to roscoe's on amanda's night? lowkey sounds like intimidation or something idk its weird.
IKR?! Kinda creepy
Is funny how people keep beating around the bush with plane Jane were it’s obvious they’re a bully but noone is willing to use that Word when it comes to them. I’ve never seen someone come on this show with the intention of being a villain and not get a villain edit. #Privilege
i didn’t want to say it but yeah, it’s giving bully
Im also starting to wonder if Jane has a crush on Amanda and since she is Russian, the toxicmasculinity that was instilled as a child is still "hanging in there" and thus she ends up bullying Amanda. Like a kid with a crush pulling on their crushes hair but now that theyre adults it comes out in verbal attacks. Jane did for real compliment Amanda out of drag about her gorgeous bone structure and face. Not saying this makes it okay but could be a reason why. Ooorrr Janes ego is just out of control and she saw Amanda as "weak" and has to feed that ego.
Due to working way too many hours, I have not watched the latest season of Canada's drag race nor the current US season.
However, I did see the pit stop episode with Maddy as well as both dis tracks. Each track is hilarious and I hope they each do one more.
Chaos goblin 💀
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Im dead at that photo of Megamis red carpet devil look with the Staff of Homa from genshin 😭😂
Ok, the part of Plane being in the audience when Amanda was there was pretty weird (and also a little bit creepy). Like if she was there only so Amanda wouldn't expose too much of her opinion on Plane or something like that. That's kinda wild. It gives me a little of stalker behavior ngl
Ya'll think Plane Jane has a crush on Amanda?
We've arrived at the Maddy reigning era
bruh, coco’s full tweet 💀😭😭
The Roscoe’s area where they do the viewings is very small, was shocked the first time I went there.
So small!
I think it's about time roscoes sent u an invite to cover one recap live! I think it would be amazing!!!
Amanda also said on Hey Queen her outfit & the short wig also made her feel dysporic / not confident during the lip sync.
bob and co really need to collect all these tracks and have a collab album
Was Plane Jane there to intimidate Amanda? Like has she just become a straight up stalker now, because Amanda had the audacity to call her out? Haha, like that is kinda dubious to me.
Production is very opportunistic on Drag Race, but they focus too much on narrative and not on meaningful conversation. What Megami said her and PJ said really deserved to be shown to us, but I guess they didn’t see a point in bringing any depth to either of them when they’re making Megami a filler queen and Plane is happily being a horrible person.
I watch Valery on RUclips and am disappointed in this. The gatekeeping of the trans experience is really nasty and, when Amanda explained herself, she should’ve backed off as opposed to continuing with the gatekeeping and locking an apology behind a “Well I’ll acknowledge my wrongdoing if she wants me to.” Haha
How tacky of that RUclipsr. It’s so lowly imo when content creators use these antagonistic methods targeting artist to get them to respond to get engagements.
When Amanda got eliminated my partner and I looked at each other and said ‘oh no.. who’s gonna be plane’s next victim??’ (Eye roll)
Amanda has served consecutively subpar performances and looks throughout the show. Yes, she can dance well and choreograph, but that ain't enough. We love a villain and I support Plane Jane's desire to be a massive bitch. Like... no one said you have to be nice? It's TV.
Mistress deleted her response to Bob, argh! lol i wanna see it again
Amanda was robbed- she killed that lipsync. I clearly saw Q not giving her all.
Lastly, Bob’s verse ATE!
It’s clear that plane Jane isn’t political, when she’s doing ads for starbucks
Can I just say how much I love a nerdy queen❤️ megami was rockin a genshin cosplay piece to match her devil lewk
“where was you on 1/6?” LMFAOOOO
Bob is a savage.
Roscos need to be more careful with the queens spoiling the season. It’s not only the people who get eliminated, is other eliminated or win the episode. This week Megami won the episode. Last week, Mirage was eliminated. That’s what happened last season too. It’s so frustrating. They know what they’re doing
Roscoe's isn't part of production, if they let the queens pick, they have no way of knowing whether they're spoiling anything or not. If anything, the queens are spoiling their own eliminations.
The other cursed appearance is Legacy in Boston. They perform on Thursday then go home on Friday
Jane showed up there to intimidate Amanda so she wouldn’t feel comfortable talking openly about how terrible she is
Yah why is no one talking about this?!?! It’s gone beyond bullying. It’s kinda concerning.
Amanda comes off as being very petulant and terrible at being criticized in basically every venue. You are a media personality now, girl. Grow a spine.
I literally cannot wait to hear monet go off about madeline morphisos eating bob up 😂
NGL…. With ALL respect to Megami…. This audience was wack on this night
Oh it's a shade that you didn't include Dax calling out Maddy lmao
Very clever and enjoyable videos.
Thank you. 🙏😊
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Of all times to go to Roscoe's why does Plain gotta go the day of Amanda's appearance? Idk, maybe they actually hung out afterwards...but seeing them on tv, it kinda feels like she was there to be messy... but whatta i know
Glad that Bob X Maddy "drama" was included! 😂
If Amanda did yell at Ross, she should because he's so insufferable and mean to the contestants by giving sassy and unhelpful comments. This is opposed to Carson who doesn't help, but doesn't degrade and is funnier.
Carson is a gem and is actually really funny. Always self deprecating, warm and never mean to the queens. He knows a lot about fashion and gives very qualified opinions. Ross Matthews is a dumpster fire of a human being who seems stuck in 2013 when that type of media personality was way too common. He's not funny, I hate his style, he has no track record outside of the show - why should we care. He's this generation's Nick Santino
Hearing another one of the s16 queens say about Jane that they view her as a “co-worker” makes me feel like it’s not just the edit she’s being given bc we know how producers/editors can be. But even so & just from the energy Megami & Amanda have given at these Roscoe’s viewing parties; it seems like she’s a difficult & rude person. Unprovoked, & to ppl it seems like she’s made no real effort to get to know?? I hope the best for ALL the S16 queens but Jane should learn when & with who she should be that c*nty diva with bc it’d be a flat out lie to say at least personally, that I don’t live for a sassy shady queen, but Jane’s comments have just felt mean & with little to no sense of humor to me. I said I felt.
Jane in the audience of Amanda’s episode? MAN she is down bad for Amanda eh? Cant get her out out of her head. Kinda stalker behaviour tbh.
I feel for Megami... being picked last always is not a good feeling.
I think Amanda lost a lot of her heart after the bullying by Plane. And that is all it is bullying, not shade.
Plain Jane isn’t even that interesting let be honest. She give of high school girl who thinks she looks cute when being rude. Like she’s a cheap version of Katya/Jimbo from Wish lol not even Shein
@@sandradee4331 it’s an opinion damn people can’t give their opinions on RUclips now ? Lmfao
@@sandradee4331 you literally try to undermine my opinion by saying it wouldn’t matter to Jane lmfao smh got comprehension skills ?
@@sandradee4331 I’m not pressed by her. She would have to be doing something great for me to be pressed but eggggghhhh she’s eghhhhhhh lol
@@sandradee4331 lmfao are you liking your own comments ?
I really think Nympia is gonna win! She’s been doing well so far and I think there’s still lots of time for her to shine
I'm sorry but "the stitching came undone" sounds like a cockamamie excuse.
I live for cocos comment!! 🤞🏽🤞🏽
I've only seen a little of this season but already I could see Plain Jane's backstabbing ways.
I can’t find drag race on my tv anywhere only old seasons sadly 😢😢😢😢
maddie did clear bob
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Plain Jane literally IS season 16💯👑❤️
Okay so Jane being in the audience… for a queen saying whatever comes in her mind left and right, with no regards as to how it may rub ppl the wrong way, she’s awfully concerned about what other queens could say. Like why would you come to roscoes if it’s not to sit with the others on stage or to at least make fun drama as an audience member and reveal yourself. To go there and then wanting them to act as if you’re not there…whilst the queen you had beef with, will probably get questions about you. That’s like a silent threat. Like damn they could have made a thing with Amanda answering and being like: “what do you think, Jane. Since you are here anyways”.
When I heard she was there I was like maybe they had some enemies to lovers story going on after the show but yeah of course it’s the creepy silent in the audience. But yeah they should have just talked directly to her or acted as if she wasn’t there. Bc I would be like I dare you Jane, to threaten me with sitting in the audience. Bc as if Amanda can’t say it to her face, when they were literally fighting with each other. But idk 🤷🏽♀️
Madre ATEEEE
I love Megami so much more now
2:43 is that Staff of Homa from Genshin impact? 😭
yes gawd
I hate it when queens get upset for being picked last in this show. That's life, move on and grow up. It makes them look insecure and that is NOT winner behavior.
Lmao it’s Fayetteville Arkansas 😂
Plane Jane could be a superstar but not with that attitude. If you have nothing nice to say, keep it to yourself.
Are we all believing that Jane really didn't want to pull focus in the audience? Nobody else thinks she didn't want to get the hate?
If someone I care for is collapsed on the floor and bawling her eyes out in front of the cameras, rules or no rules - I would have run to her without any thinking and at the very least would have helped her up and offstage (I mean no offense to the others who didn't). I just don't see the need to prolong the eliminated queen's misery and I'm sure it felt like an eternity to Mirage before she found her legs again. If RuPaul wants to cite anyone for that (should it ever happen) I'd die to hear about it. At least we'd then know if the Queen of Drag has any _genuine_ emotion for the contestants that break down in front of her. It's interesting: RuPaul has stated on many occasions that she'd turned down concepts for drag-based reality competition for years because she didn't want to be a part of something that could genuinely harm someone. She also said that eliminations were very difficult for her the first couple of years. Knowing this, she really succeeded in her breaking that annoying habit. God know she's stone-cold nowadays unless it involves Roxxxy Andrews, a wig reveal, and a Greyhound station, or any combination of the three.
Agree 💯 and I think it's also important to remember the real timeline. We saw Mirage's elimination, an immediate outpouring of love and the start of a potentially great career. But the elimination happened months ago in reality. In all that time, after that horrible experience, Mirage would not have known how the edit would show her or how she'd be received by fans. There's serious potential for harm with the way they treat people. Its really making me re-evaluate my love of the show tbh 😢
I haven’t loved what Megami has been putting out that much but she’s so sweet and lovely it broke my heart she was picked last. Also I don’t think she should’ve gone home. Mihya turned her lip synch into a joke and I feel like it was unfair. Megami also killed the flowers outfit. I mean the fucking vertical pink flowers she had in between the puckers and pleats on the skirt was so cool
IDK about anyone else, but ever since the 1st episode when Dawn was talking about Megami and said she was known for being "the eeyore of drag" i cant help but see that now everytime i see her! Megami really does seem like a debbie-downer from what the show has shown and from what the queens have said themselves. Just my 2 cents noone asked for.
U really had to call her a “Debbie downer” after completely redeeming herself and getting shit together ☹️☹️☹️
@@Cardboardwater Because she is! Even at Roscoe's, I could just hear the Eeyore voice saying "I was picked last and I had a mental breakdown". Obviously, she feels how she feels, but the way she framed the story at first seems very that.
@@pengwinsRus girl come on being picked last in front of national TV can be very psychologically damaging! God forbid she shares her vulnerabilities and ate up the next episode with a challenge win because she was determined to prove those who doubted her wrong. Debbie downers don’t redeem themselves the way Megami did and I have to respectfully disagree with u
@@Cardboardwater I just disagree that redeeming herself and being Eeyore/Debbie Downer are related or tied together. I also don't thing she needs "redeeming" from being Eeyore; Eeyore is a lovable character in spite of and because of his personality. I'm just saying that when you're a reality television personality, it behooves you to play up positive emotions and control the narrative of your negative emotions better. On the show, of course, you have less control over it because of production, but at Roscoe's for instance it might have been better for her to focus on how determined she was because she had a breakdown rather than to lead with and focus on the breakdown itself.
@@pengwinsRus understandable! However I was going off the context of the main comment made where the writer did correlate Debbie downer with being Eeyore 🤷♀️. It’s honestly refreshing to see someone be vulnerable in a humble manner. Not everything has to be super positive
Okay but Legacy in Boston had the girls before they went to Roscoe’s 🤪
at some point no care about who is winning bc we all know who is winning between wind and crystal bu they so chill and the rest are the real drama
Well, they are there to compete for quite some money.
I don't feel Plane Jane is sooooo wrong.
If anything, they should all be super competitive and use their strategies.
Winning is a big thing, lots is at stake.
I would enjoy if everyone was strategic and shady.
And I would understand why.
This being said, I like the cast this year, there are clearly few standouts but I am glad all these Queens have been picked and got the chance to show us their art.
Good luck and warm hugs to all the Queens ❤
I think Megami (and her group) did great this challenge and after having previously kind of slept on her, she’s in my rooting-for category!
If you are picking teams someone will inevitably be picked last and no one wants a whiner on their team...they want winners.
So Maddy is actually becoming the new Trixie Mattel🧐?
As Widow Von'du once said the youtuber didn't apologize she apololied
Wow roscoes is tiny. I always assumed it was a huge bar!
So Plane Jane is now out in the community staking and silently bullying Amanda. Nice. If you know you trated Amaca like that how about you don't need to be in the building LOOMING and lurking.
MIB was not... Men in Black? 👁👄👁
Mistress Isabelle Brooks
I clearly remember them showing Amanda yelling, “Shut Up Stupid,” during the Cher runway. Am I experiencing a Mandela Effect or what? ETA: I just rewatched the runway and it doesn’t exist! 🤯 But I swear to Peaches Christ that I saw that happen and I even rewound it at the time I was watching it because I was impressed at the quick-wittedness!
???? HELLO WHY DO I REMEMBER THIS TOO
Plane is the best thing to happen to Drag Race in years. Hopefully Plane's success will inspire a new generation of queens that rebel against the toxic and hypocritical purist twitter/reddit culture. Just give the middle finger to the moral musings of 14yo America.
Pretty sure they didn't air the politics conversation with Plane because production is protecting her
Megami's not going to win. But it'll be a nice experience for her to look back on.
Honestly this makes me like Amanda so much more and makes me HATE Plane Jane with a burning passion