Hobgoblins are very good for splitting into 1 stacks to reach and use up retaliations of the most powerful enemy stacks (e.g. dragons), after which the wolf raiders and behemoths can focus the enemy power stack with impunity.
For me, wulfs are high A tier, especially on Tyraxor. You can do even a black dragon, or behe/bird dwelling at week 1, there is no such a unit in a game that can do it so early. Also, upgrade ogres is so expensive, especially because build path, so usually skip them at all and god for birds and bears. For me, ogres are low tier B at the best, good one if you can find them in a box but also at that case you will be disappointed because is not a bird box...
I would rate Ogre and Ogre Mage in D and C, because they cost too much wood. You will never prioritize them over Thunderbirds and Behemoths and usually the only reason to build Orgre Fort it is, because it is required for Cyclops Cave. Even Orc Chieftans are more utilized than Ogre Mages :D
Regular behe are the fastest t7 to get possible. If U can save them from dying early basically U do not need any other units to conquere the map and to get ahead, but only if you can muster their big numbers = S tier imo. Good Tier list tho...
Thank You! Yea, agreed on the ease of getting them. Imo the speed is a bit of an issue though for the strat you mention. But interesting strat nonetheless :)
I am not playing HotA, but they removed the Crystal requirements for Cyclop? Not being on the building path of Behemots is a minus. For that reason, I would have put Cyclops on C Tier
Pretty nice list overall. In single player and if I am comparing these units to other units of the same tier then I would make some changes here. I think ancient behemoths are not as good as multiple other tier 7 units so S is too much, I can see mid A or low A. Behemoths are pretty lackluster un-upgraded tier 7, one of the worst so I'd say B for them. Thunderbirds while very important for Stronghold and a great tier 5 doesn't quite make the cut for S as it is competing with mighty gorgons and power liches in their tier. Still great, and high A possibly. Rocs can stay in mid A as an early good unit, and it is possibly the best un-upgraded tier 5. Actually maybe that deserves S? Ogre magis are just not good enough for A. They are mid tier 4 units, too low speed to matter in most fights though they are great in big fights and for castle defence. They slow down hero. And it's a bit expensive to get them and to upgrade them. I think B is fine, since they do have tons of hp and good dmg, but their defence is actually a bit low. I more or less agree with the rest.
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
“glass canon without being actually a canon”
I like your phrase structure and accent. where are you from?
@@Whatever-vz2tj Based on the accent I think Finland.
I was rather proud of that :D Thanks for the comment.
@ Greetings from Finland :)
@ Well picked :) Thanks for the comment.
This town's soundtrack is my favorite 🦅🌠🏜️ "ВОЛЯ!"
Agreed, it is great - though I have to admit so are quite a few other themes in the game ;) Thanks for the comment.
Hobgoblins are very good for splitting into 1 stacks to reach and use up retaliations of the most powerful enemy stacks (e.g. dragons), after which the wolf raiders and behemoths can focus the enemy power stack with impunity.
Thanks for the comment. Yea, I guess there the speed will shine :)
Stronghold with early ballista. Muah, nice!
Could be rather nice :) Thanks for the comment.
For me, wulfs are high A tier, especially on Tyraxor. You can do even a black dragon, or behe/bird dwelling at week 1, there is no such a unit in a game that can do it so early. Also, upgrade ogres is so expensive, especially because build path, so usually skip them at all and god for birds and bears. For me, ogres are low tier B at the best, good one if you can find them in a box but also at that case you will be disappointed because is not a bird box...
Thanks for the comment. Yea, a good hero can increase the value of a unit quite a bit :)
I would rate Ogre and Ogre Mage in D and C, because they cost too much wood. You will never prioritize them over Thunderbirds and Behemoths and usually the only reason to build Orgre Fort it is, because it is required for Cyclops Cave. Even Orc Chieftans are more utilized than Ogre Mages :D
Thanks for the comment. Yea, agreed that wood is needed quite a bit :)
Orcs/Orc chieftains are so poor units. They'd deserve no melee penalty at least and/or some other ability/utility.
Fully agreed on that :) Thanks for the comment.
Regular behe are the fastest t7 to get possible. If U can save them from dying early basically U do not need any other units to conquere the map and to get ahead, but only if you can muster their big numbers = S tier imo. Good Tier list tho...
Thank You! Yea, agreed on the ease of getting them. Imo the speed is a bit of an issue though for the strat you mention. But interesting strat nonetheless :)
@@qualityoldhomm-rd3yu that is no problem at all if U start with Terek as a hero :) I should mention that earlier
I am not playing HotA, but they removed the Crystal requirements for Cyclop? Not being on the building path of Behemots is a minus. For that reason, I would have put Cyclops on C Tier
Thanks for the comment. Yea, agreed on the build path. The basic building does not require crystal in HotA :)
Pretty nice list overall.
In single player and if I am comparing these units to other units of the same tier then I would make some changes here.
I think ancient behemoths are not as good as multiple other tier 7 units so S is too much, I can see mid A or low A.
Behemoths are pretty lackluster un-upgraded tier 7, one of the worst so I'd say B for them.
Thunderbirds while very important for Stronghold and a great tier 5 doesn't quite make the cut for S as it is competing with mighty gorgons and power liches in their tier. Still great, and high A possibly. Rocs can stay in mid A as an early good unit, and it is possibly the best un-upgraded tier 5. Actually maybe that deserves S?
Ogre magis are just not good enough for A. They are mid tier 4 units, too low speed to matter in most fights though they are great in big fights and for castle defence. They slow down hero. And it's a bit expensive to get them and to upgrade them. I think B is fine, since they do have tons of hp and good dmg, but their defence is actually a bit low.
I more or less agree with the rest.
Thanks for the comment and detailed grounds for your views :)
Wasnt regular behemoth one of if not the best performing unit for cost?
Thanks for the comment. I think it is. However, imo usually in scenarios growth seems to be the more limiting factor :)
Suomenkielinen "valitse tiedostot" näkyy melkein jokaisessa videossa alareunassa ;)
Täytyy yrittää pitää Suomea jollain tavalla esillä ;D Kiitos huomiosta.
Only really usable units for stronghold: Behemoth, Cyclops, Rocs 😂
Thanks for the comment. I agree about Behes and Rocs but imo Cyclops are rather lackluster for tier 6 :)
Your assessment of orc chieftains seems a little unfair in light of their double attack
That's not orc chieftains, that's the third tier in modded HOMM3
They do not have double attack lol...
Thanks for the comment. I don't think they have double-attack. If they had, I would agree that they are quite a bit better :)