5 Things Guitar Players GET WRONG | Real Guitar Talk
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- As guitar players, of course we ALWAYS get everything right. Except these 5 things... what do you think? Let us know in the comments! Obviously many of you know these things, so please forgive the video title. I elaborate in the video.
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Immediately thought of #2. Guessing there's some confusion because people use the word "tone" both to descirbe the unique characteristics of a player as well as describing sound. Because of that, someone asking "How do I get the sound from the solo on song X" often is met by at least one person being extra unhelpful saying "It's in the fingers". Great video.
If the tone was in the fingers we wouldn't need big muffs,blues breakers, and tube screamers to get those tones.
We wouldn't even need guitars. Just wiggle your fingies. Like The Wiggles.
I'm glad you tackled that "tone is in your fingers" thing. I never bothered to figure out why the saying bothers me. 👍
It's not entirely untrue, but it's very dismissive and misleading. And people mostly just say it so that we'll think they're wise and learned sages.
"Less is more" is shorthand for how one approaches songwriting - trimming the fat, serving the song instead of one's ego, leaving some space in the composition/recording so it's not lacking in dynamics - and so on.
I learned that when writing songs and demoing them back in the 90s. We had a great little pop song but had included an extended solo section. I realised it was weighing the tune down so I excised it completely. Hey presto! There was my 3min pop song ready to go. Our lead player said "but you got rid of the best bit" so I played him the 6min version then the 3min and it was like the scales fell from his eyes. "Ohhhh...I get it" he said.
Later that night he told me "today I learned something important about Pop music". He went on to become a great Jazz virtuoso, a working guitarist. I stayed the Indie band route but changed tack later in life. So did he - we ended up closer to each other in many ways while remaining singular in our respective aesthetic visions.
You live, you learn.
Btw I completely agree about there being objective values in the arts. A good shorthand to getting folks who believe all art is "subjective" to grasp this point regarding objective goods, even just intuitively, is the concept of "so bad it's good" or "guilty pleasure".
Obviously there's a subjective element being expressed in both statements, *and* they both imply - or even directly state - that there's an objective side to the work in question.
Why "guilty"? Because one knows that it's *objectively bad* - but "pleasure" points towards subjective enjoyment.
Ditto "so bad it's good".
Bad *how* ? Good *how* ?
Objectively bad, subjective enjoyment of the "good" (enjoyment itself) in the appreciation of something so objectively bad it provides subjective enjoyment - usually in the form of great mirth, amusement, even pathos!
Just watch an Ed Wood film and tell me I'm wrong (I'm not ;) )
Btw "Kindness" is both objectively good and, in my case, subjectively enjoyable.
Kudos.
It's funny because I actually believe "Less is More" is generally wise advice, its just that when it becomes a platitude, it becomes stupidly simplified and dismisses any alternative.
@@JackFossettagreed 💯!
Great video Jack 👍🏻 1/ Sold my tube amp to buy my Quilter for better tone. 2/ I can get good tones at low volume. 3/ I find 10's stay in tune longer than lighter gauges. 4/ Tone is in the equipment, dynamics are in your fingers. 5/ Platitudes are generally nonsense.
Platitudes are just a way people can pretend to be wise and experienced without any actual brain thoughts. It's like a subscription based belief program.
I used to play with a singer who once brought in this killer guitar riff. The guitar player and I (bass player) couldn’t play it with the same sloppy rhythm that the singer played it with - but that was what gave it its character, so we just asked her to play it.
That wasn’t quite a “less is more” or “tone is in the hands” situation but it really made me think that sometimes personality and how you play something, with all your rhythmic quirks and individual accents, is as important as the notes you’re playing.
Great vid. I always enjoy watching your stuff. Hope you all are getting some sleep with the new arrival!
Thank you! She's our seventh - I haven't slept in over a decade...
Excellent reflections, thanks for sharing. Always great content in your work videos! Cheers
Enjoyed that - was cathartic to hear those counter arguments to the usual cliches. Ps love my Fender 9 bullets
Here's one. It seems to me that everyone wants to be a shredder and strive to be a lead guitar player. Online at least, I dont read much about wanting to play rhythm and supporting the band to make the music sound better. Yes, that's me in nutshell. Maybe it is assumed that most , not all, great guitarist pay their dues by playing rhythm.
The talent, dedication and musicality of a great rhythm guitarist should not be underestimated. In fact that’s very much in line with the rise of the guitar as a modern instrument in the pre and post war era.
Check out Eric Haugen. He's the antidote to all that Shredder stuff. He's super chill, similar to Jack in his approach but perhaps closer to the Indie thing and less Rootsy. There's crossover tho -- that's why I'm a follower of both!
@@JackFossettI always say, if you can keep a steady groove and have your basic chordal stuff locked in (nothing fancy, just a degree or three of the CAGED approach will suffice, or even open chords with basic Barres) - if you can do that, you can go out and play.
I did it for 8 years. Before I learned anything "serious" and had the time of my life. Even made a few $ here and there.
Love to watch the fender reverb amps specificaly the twin most every night to go to sleep. Not that it's boring but the fact that it's smooth.
Oh but the pedal guys always wake me back up with the the loud intro when they always come up next. The fender shootouts are cool as well. Have a blond twin myself.
I like the Vox mini Super Beatle with the new tube technology, the sound is good.
Good video and a "Big Smile" here. This very much sums up a big chunk of the narcissist guitar player cohort.
And reminds me of what we all see on Josh Scott's amp when he does demos on the JHS Pedal RUclips channel. (He is so subtle and often tongue-in-cheek in his demos). Just under the "on" light on the front panel of his demo amp, you can read:
"LOUD IS MORE GOOD"
Your video made me smile and think of the demos on JHS Pedals
Big strings just pull the neck and an old guitar will buzz less.
"Less is more" reminds of the late great Johnny Winter. "Less is more" never applied to that guy! He's the player famous for ALWAYS sending a paragraph to do the work of a sentence in in his style. I can't handle a steady diet of his playing, but it sure is glorious when it works!
I 10:11 a teacher and .. have always told my students it is ok to study other guitar players techniques everyone learns from someone else ,stealing ..
that is ok..to a point ..
I remember years ago late 70s we got a steady weekend gig at a club and I remember the club owner say play you own version of songs ,if I wanted exact copy I would just play the juke box..
I loved that I could have hugged the guy.. that's the whole point that the band I was in wanted to do is to have the freedom to play our version or style of a song instead of a perfect note for note copy..
Other gigs we always snuck in one or two originals, which was great ,it is nice to get a compliment on an original...
Another thing I have learned is don't waste a lot of your time learning a song that nobody can sing... ww tried a few Rush songs but
Geddy has a unique voice and had a hard time pulling it off ...
I liked the comment someone made about Johnny Winter. Less is more
Evidently, he didn't get the memo..lol
But it worked for him that was his language
Too many on RUclips wanting to be SRV or Eddie V and they are very talented players.
Like copying someone else homework .. be unique, don't be afraid to test the waters... music is an art
.some are going to like what you create and some won't, and that's ok..be yourself...
There is such an advantage these days to learning
When I was a kid I saved my school milk money so I could run by the 5 & and Dime store to get a new needle for my record player..
That's how I had to learn by listening and training the ear..
Mr. Fossett makes too much sense for us.
Although what he says is undeniable, we can't believe it because... it is based on rationality and long-term experience. We must dogmatically stick to what we think we know for wondering outside our beliefs is far too much to bear.
Playing loud to get good tone has more to do with fletcher Munson curves of the human ear. But microphone’s don’t work the same, so you can get great recorded tones at lower volume.
The way (skill) you mix and apply your colours to a canvas affects the resultant tone! You can't argue that picking technique hasn't got a huge impact on the tonal characteristics of a note!
I loved every second of this video
My friend Jack, if I were asked to judge this presentation with 5 stars being the highest score, you would get a 7 at least. I agree with all that you've said. I have an '87 Fender Red Knob "The Twin" that I bought used years ago. I like it, but when the volume is over 1.2, it's too loud, even for outdoor venues. I keep it because it keeps chugging. I later bought a new Fender Twin Supersonic that I kept for about a year and a half because it was blistering loud when the volume control was bumped above "off". Later I bought a Fender Princeton Bordeaux which was beautiful and manageable. Last summer I bought a Fender Tone Master Super Reverb Amp with 4x10's. Because the Tone Master sounds so great and is so versatile and easy, I quit using the Princeton for months, so I sold it to help pay for a new Takamine Santa Fe guitar loaded with turquoise.
Being an acoustic electric guitar/harp/vocals solo gigger for three decades, I only used the tube amps for practice at home with my Gibson SG. Sorry for the "what I did on my summer vacation" here, but your tubes/digital comments put those things into focus for me. The rest of the story is that I listened closely and agreed 100% with everything you said. I don't think that I could have verbalized it as well though, and I am a retired high school English teacher. I just went along with what you said, but what you said should be valuable information for all beginners. Thank you, kind sir.
Tube amps are over-priced and you don't always get quality builds. Also, not everyone has the place where you can get loud. Look at sales the last few years and digital has already replaced tube. About the tone, a good amp will make a bad guitar sound good if you have the skill.
I find that particularly true with lower end tube amps. They're frequently not as good as solid state or digital amps that cost the same or even more - but people buy them because "tube amps are better"
Anyone checked out the Yamaha Revstar?
GREAT guitars. Just ask Chris Buck.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day also tomorrow is my friends birthday also my birthday Jack ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Back in college, my guitar instructor once said: "the 'sound' we want comes from our gear. Our 'tone' comes from our fingers. Our personal 'sound' is our feel, pocket, and what we bring to the music"
I do.
@@InjectBleach-em9tghe cares about you! You could use some love it sounds like. Ask someone for a hug and I hope you feel better soon!
Don’t ever change.
5. Tube amps ARE better. 4. Louder IS better, until it ain't. 3. Heavier low E, A, and D clearly sound better...my CS loves 52-10. 2. Having fingers can't hurt. 1. Natural talent is real...wish I had some. Good one, CornPop...umm...Jack.
If you're running a solidstate amp into an analog board you're playing through tubes. The board is an amp. Six of one, half dozen the other. But you knew that
don't forget," 6) stay away from the heroin, and 7) know who your friends are.
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life in america feel so temporary,
but I thought of something that might enhance my appreciation of african culture.
If we could have permanent african cultural exhibits, where their breeding faster than the food grows is represented by a very real deprivation of nutrients.
Then other people could witness how they work that out with each other, when they run out of food.
Of course the rest of us are not going to be sure that’s anything we would want to discard our cultural norms for…..so of course we are not going to want any audience participation oportunities until we understand it better.
so we could establish safe zones for spectators, when spectators could purchase concessions and beverages, and that would reimburse the expense of setting up for the cultural education.