Hey something feels off about this vide-I FORGOT THE FUCKING INTRO whatever, I'm not reuploading it because of that but I already know it's going to bother me
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 I'm honestly not big on MMO's and don't know anything about WoW but if someone requested a match I find interesting I'd at least think about it.
@@rane932 me neither, I merely read the novels about the two and peeked in on my sister playing WoW xD I feel they are well comparable with any high level DmC or FF char that matches thematically
I feel like Edward would win due to him coming up with his own creative way that not all assassins would do. And that is using his pistol sword and his flint rock pistols as a combination, Edward made his own strategy that the assassins don’t use while Shay is used to taking out assassins that have used tactics in the Brotherhood. Also correct me if I’m wrong but,you missed how Shay has a sense ability that allows him to detect sneak attacks. Also great way to end season one with a bang
Fair points but Shay has dealt with Pirates before and would be familiar with their tactics too, Still it would probably throw him off guard at first. As for Shay's sense I didn't forget, I just didn't think it would play enough of a role against Edward to be worth bringing up especially in a ship environment. But now that I think about it I should have at least mentioned it.
mcharleau you have plenty of good points why Edward would win, in the end both of them would take a beating before the other went down, but I would side with Edward due to him making up his own rules so the ways of the Assassin’s would work for him instead of being molded into the Brotherhood.
Before I get to watching this video, I'm going to predict that Edward Kenway would win. The thing with Shay as a combatant is that his fighting style is based primarily towards Assassins, whose approaches are mainly in stealth. Edward, however, is the complete opposite, as he's spent a great deal of his life dealing with other opponents and engaging them in open combat, making him far more inclined to engage in close-quarters. In other words, to cite Brian from 3TopicsGamer as a source, while other Assassins like Ezio adhered to the traditional standards the Brotherhood stood by, Edward instead took the Assassins' methods and made them work specifically for him in physical combat. In my opinion, this approach to a fight is what would put Shay Cormac in some serious trouble.
My two favorite assassin creed creed protagonists, damn you for this awesome match-up/video xD Pre-watch call: this apears to be the AC version of Darth Vader (Shay) vs Exar Kun (Edward), with this dynamic mirrored my bets are placed on Edward Kennway.
Physical condition i give to kenway beacuse he probably had harsher training than assassins gave being trained by pirates weapons i also give to kenway with him having 2 swords and shay only having a sword and knife Ships definetly goes to shay has better weapons in a lot of aspects stradegy i give shay an edge being trained in all aspects battle: before shay assassinated kenway, kenway said better luck next time thats a huge hell no with kenway if kenway knows this is gonna be touph he is gonna take him out fast he would never make that mistake but what you did not mention is their quatermasters this definetly goes to kenway beacause adwale being an assassin also is way better than shays quatermaster since his has almost no combat winner is kenway in my opinion
This was amazing love it. In my opinion I say that Edward wins slightly more is because he fights pirates, the templates templars for a living and he fought assassins for a little while so he has just as much knowledge to take all three down and Edward only died due to some random guys. Also Edward kills pirates for a living so any pirates that shay killed Edward can kill to, shay may had more training and experience but for the most part they both have been in the same fights so I say it would be a evenly matched but Edward have fought people that have the amount of training as shay did and Edward won those fights. So I say Edward win slightly for that reason.
Bro I know I'm late respond but shay had also fought pirates and if you actually listened to the video you would that shay killed a pirate captain at the age of only 15.
Edwards equipment are far superior, and even thatch once mentioned that Edward fights like a devil. Also Edward is far more versatile. Edward wins. Shay is nothing compared to Edward. I’m not saying Shay Is weak but Edward is more superior and far more versatile.
I cannot agree with you.Shay maybe an assassin hunter,but edward also fought with the assassins at first.He is more experienced with more pirate combat.And most importantly Edward has 4 pistols,whereas shay has only 2.And if you put them with their strongest armors,then Ed would win easily.Except all of these,edward has more healthbar than shay.He survived rifle bullets,survived axe-attacks on head.So without doubt Edward James Kenway would win.
I will state that edward has an eccentric fighting style but so does shay. They both have experience fighting pirates but shay has more experience fighting trained and conditioned fighter...he literally hunts assassin's. I mean shay is an absolute monster who killed every assassin he fought, and all the assassin's who tried to assassinate him while ed, Edward was killed by two mercany. In every category shay has the edge, it will be a good fight but shay outclasses him.
Shay has dealt with gunmen before just using sword for example when doing the first mission you can see shay take on four gunmen guns change nothing four shots can be missed it comes down to who’s the better fighter
@@Godisgoodalways7777 cause he didn’t even train yet he uses two swords and wielding two swords at the same time is not easy lmao but it’s very effective in combat if well used
Dude this is amazing and yay mine won. Spoilers. The next one a Persona Three vs Free for all THATS GOING TO BE CRAZY JESUS I CANT WAIT and I can't wait to find out more about these epic looking characters. Respect rane keep up the epic work 😃👍🏻.
The battle between 3 main anime boi. Can't wait. Another great match up Rane I have a question for you. Are you planning to use FF7 characters in your match ups? If so then will you focused on them from the original at least until the remake finished or how will you deal with that? Thank you and can't wait for the finale
Shay in the case of his best guns was the pair of British Percussion Pistols. These Pistols in regards to the weapon stats for the guns outclassed Edward's for stunning opponents on impact by a factor of one and range and damage by a factor of two. His best sword/dagger combination however is The Sword of Altair and its long dagger counterpart of the same design.
Makoto vs Narukami vs Ren?! I thought you said you couldn't do something like that? I mean it sounds cool. Just sounds like THE most difficult fight you'll ever do.
I couldn't do a match like this with the velvet attendants due to lavenza/the twins not having a definitive Persona, a three way fight with them is still not yet possible for me. And I hate to disappoint you but I'm taking the easy route on this one and will unfortunately have to limit these 3 to their starting Personas but maybe when I'm ready I will return and give them the full roster. Even just giving them what they had in the Anime would be too much for me which kinda sucks because I already know it will effect the outcome.
Although Shay has more experience against fighting against stealth techniques, that doesn't mean he's any slouch when it comes to just fighting in open combat. His naval combat is probably on par with Edward's, given their ability to take on legendary ships that probably outgun them 1-3. This also doesn't consider that Shay's Morrigan was also able to take out Adewale's ship in a freaking blizzard. And Adewale had served underneath Edward. His combat against other master assassins also proves that Shay can adapt effectively to combative methods that differ slightly from the ordinary assassin. Finally, he's shown to be just as effective in an open environment, as he has fought in the North Atlantic, densily wooded forests, and even the cityscape of New York. The only real disadvantage in Shay's corner is he's outgunned by Edward 2-1 in terms of pistols and that his age when compared to Edward makes him less physically effective when compared to Edward. This all being said, Edward is unpredictable and would certainly give Shay a run for his money, but I think Shay has just enough to take down Edward.
@@GoodNeutralEvilChaos 2 reasons. 1: it would be an incredibly unbalanced fight. 2: there's not really all that much information to use, sure you can fuse them but none of their stat info is canon
Great video and, omg a persona battle royal is a matchup I've been waiting for someone to do for a long time, talk about ending the season with a bang. (A quick request list) 1. Leon Kennedy vs Jill valentine (resident evil) 2. Solid snake (metal gear) vs agent 47 (hitman) 3.Harley Quinn (dc) vs nora valkyrie (rwby) keep up the good work 👍👍👍
The twin sword being better than a Sword x Dagger isn't fully accurate, as the purpose of the pairing is to subvert weaknesses. A long weapon has more reach, but less maneuverability and accuracy, where as a short weapon is the opposite. I'd say melee weapons are equal for both combatants as they both work for different things. Also, Love the vid, My bet pre-watch was 7/shay 3/edward. I mean, man has a grenade launcher full of berserk gas. Straight up carrying a war crime stick on his back.
Edward would actually win. He has more experience in sailing and naval combat Larger arsenal of weapons Kills a SAGE Has a better crew Doesn’t fight like a trained assassin, thus shay’s knowledge wouldn’t benefit him. Shay is simply out of his element and wouldn’t know how to handle someone like Edward.
Your wrong because Edward wouldn’t make that mistake think about it like how haytham got by Conor same exsact thing but Edward wouldn’t make that mistake chances are really low Edward could have shot him stabbed him with his sword
People saying shay would get defeated just because edwards approach is not like mainstream assasin mainly stealth and things, thats kinda dumb the thing is shay isnt stupid he sneaks up on assasins who are already sneaking 💀💀 he is a full on ghost and as far as people saying edward combat is deadly shay is equally deadly he canonically beat le chasseur without getting hit once shay is just underrated asf
I actually think the equipment is closer than you suggested sword and dagger may technically have slightly less range than two sword fighting it is functionally irrelevant because your second sword will get in the way of your primary sword far more than a dagger. Additionally Shay's grenade launcher can be fired in almost the same amount of tirm as firing a flintlock and it is much MUCH deadlier.
I'm very excited on the Persona matchup! Do you have any interest in using any final fantasy characters? In particular, I think a Dragoon match up would be wicked!
I think edward would have won because he has his rope dart that can be pulled out quickly and be could have used it to hang shay to attack from a distance or to catch shay off guard
Edward vs shay is a very easy answer and the answer is Edward. But if we were talking about naval combat I would say the morrigan over the jackdaw only because rogues technology was more better than black flags technology.
Honestly I think that Edward since he can be intelligent if there swords were locked he would angle his blade to the right position where he could take a shot at shay which could weaken him if not kill him meaning if Edward did that Edward could easily get the upper hand
At the start u r incorrect he was a privateer not a pirate a privateer works for the navy/royal family But the rest is mostly100% nice job on the long script u just got a new sub
I feel like it would be VERY close but Shay would come out on top. He was trained by Achilles and the colonial Brotherhood AND trained himself to be the ultimate assassin hunting machine. His equipment is also superior. His custom templar sword and dagger, dual flintlocks, and silenced air rifle outclass anything edward has. Shay is also physically bigger and stronger and more durable, and is able to survive hidden blade assassination stabs up close. Sorry to say but Shay's superior physicality, superior weapons and training from both Assassin and Templar factions just outclass Edward
With all of their equipment and skills shown in their games considered I think it would be a draw but if I had to pick an absolute winner I think Edward would only barely just come out victorious, but barely. Shay has a bit of a technology advantage with basically a grenade launcher with gas and explosive ones, but shay I feel is more equipped to fight traditional assassins which Edward is not, he is more willing to jump into a fight and probably has tricks shay has never seen with him being a pirate, which is why I think Edward would win, I think he has enough not traditional assassins tactics to get him the win but only just enough
Idk man from personal experience the Morrigan can yes deal some damage but I’ve decimated level 60 Man O’ War ships with level 38 frigates (pirate hunter) without losing a bar as the Jackdaw but with Morrigan level 48 Man O’ Wars can give me a fight and pose somewhat of a threat so I know we’re being realistic but idk
@@DoubleFacedThreads yes ezio can lol how y’all don’t know ezio can literally can beat every assassins and Templar’s ezio from Ac revelations is dangerous, he was throwing guards away with his hidden blade and breaking arms, when he fight with his sword he can breaking necks, even lift them up when he stabs through their head lol
@@Kensho-gw5cp and honestly the strongest assassin is more than likely Connor kenway I feel even Jacob could take ezio in a fight and before you disagree watch the way he fights before and then answer honestly
edward is better in my opinion for 2 reasons: he has my name "Eduardo" translated into english Edward and also because he fought for a good cause in my opinion, he conquered great things, and above all, he helped Adéwale a lot to have a great direction in his life, but unfortunately he found his end in his Shay's hands
But here’s the thing Edward also killed assassins and he successfully assassinated the grand Templar of the assassins order not to mention the fact that Edward had a unique style of fighting different from the Assassins the Assassins are more sneaky while Edward likes to go in heavy fact of the matter is Yes Shay has more Experience but that would mean he would expect Edward to fight like regular assassins being sneaky but Edward is aggressive so even though they are about equal I got to give the victory to Edward
@@thebestteammate6528 you have a point but shay has fighting experience from both sides he has the sneaky and the aggressive style plus Shays basterd sword and dagger allows him to do some very unexpected attacks
Shay was honestly more boring that Edward Edward would kick shay ass shay only as 4 damage weapons while edward as 8 damage weapons edward outfits looks better and as more outfit that shay edward as so many suits like the altar suit and the enzo suit and the conour suit shay only as the onward suit that look kida nice on him in asscreed rouge I only use the kenway suit like Conor and Edward in asscreed black flag you had two armoured suits that you have to unlocked the Frist suit you had to unlocked doing tempuler hunt I loved those kissing the suit increase you sword damage and pistol damage by 50 the second suit is like wearing a tank no damage from guns but enemy's 9 damage less to you but the suit does not affect brute so edward would win
I would say Edward Kenway would win due to his accuracy I think in the scene where Edward shoots Shay I think he would just aim at his head and end him there or after that scene he would pull out another gun and just make a well placed shot that would kill Shay or Edward could just get onto the mast spot Shay and use his guns to kill Shay but that’s my opinion what do you think
Nice video but Edward would win shay defeated all his friends by him self but edward did the same edward dud nore fighting then shay if edward as at his normal age in the game rip shay shay does not have most the experience of edward yes shay is called the assassin hunter but what does he got trained by a man that was trained by a solder edward takes thos this hard difficulty
Bruh have u even played rogue Shay detected hundreds of assassins who jumped on him from buildings and countered thrm Why eould it be different with edward As soon as edward jumps he would akready be dead Fight over in 2 mins
@@logiciskey3886 Edward has better weapons and is better in dual wielding and is faster because he doesn't use a long sword like Shay and edward is way more familliar with people like shay than shay is because he never really faught pirates like edward and Edward is more brutal and cunning than Shay not only is he better with swords but he is faster because his swords are smaller and lighter and using a long sword meant for 2 hands in one hand and a dagger isnt a good balance besides Edward has 2 pistol swords and is much more used to sword fights than shay . EDWARD is faster and more ruthless than shay. Ive finished both games multiple times i love them both but Edward definitely comes out on top but Shay would have no problem kicking Ezios ass
@@sean-douglasroberts5150 Edward has a blowpipe shay has an air rifle which is better. Neither assassin uses a long sword Shay is just as familiar with people as Edward Both are literally the same speed In the first few cutscenes you see shay take on four gunmen so doesn’t matter how many guns Edward has and shay has been fighting since he was sixteen He has just a bit more of experience than Edward altogether I think shay wins considering he’s notorious for killing master assassins But you were right about that last part im pretty sure every assassin after ezio is stronger than ezio but I think I understand your opinion too Thanks for the chat
But Edward get his Hiden blades like 1715-1716 and the game ends in 1724 then he have years to train with hiden blades so i just Dissagre it ( bad English sorry)
Untrue some people might have some things that he might have forgotten about or he might not have known so just saying that people are stupid just because they disagree would be a huge mistake on anybody’s part
This is bias I mean Edward won't make a mistake like that he would just finish shay it feels like u like shay more so u made the whole battle fair but in the the end you screwed Edward
True honestly to me it would be a draw what would happen is Edward fatally shoots Shay but Edward bleeds to death so technically shay beats Edward but Shay ends up dying from his wounds
Most people just be saying Edward would win because everyone hates shay shay hunted assassins and had way more experience than Edward he is better at combat me personally think he is stronger than Edward I just think Edward finally meets his match shay was just freaking crazy
The assisns in rouge are rom a younger time If shay hunted any assins from black flag shay would be dead shay is weak and does not have any more experience then edward edward was trained by a solder
@@whoknows6955 shay fought pirates when young and he defeated adewale and if those assassin's were from a younger time why were the assassin's more advanced than Edward's and adewale was just as skilled as Edward himself
@@whoknows6955 you can’t even spell right and you think Edward wins shay is notorious for killing assassins shay was fighting when he was sixteen he has more experience than you give him credit for Literally the assassins from shays times were stronger than the ones in black flag The moment you heard Edward vs somebody else it’s automatic win . That’s complete and utter bullshit
Meh I doubt shay would even get shot And two if Edward won that wouldn’t be bias Very hypocritical of you Shay who’s adept at taking out gunmen which is shown within the first few cutscenes and known for killing master assassins I think your just attached to Edward and upset he didn’t win
If it's a navel battle Edward wins but if it's a land fight I. Say shay since when he was an assassin he was already master level so with years of templar training he might be the 1st or 2 strongest templar
@@Blake45167 on land and a hand to hand fight shay wins but in a naval battle Edward might. The sea is Edwards territory where he fights the most and spent most of his life on
Shay has more experience shay was trained by assinssans and templars edward kenway only was a assinssans at the end of the game shay killed multiple master assinssans edward did not kill as many powerful characters shay took down the assinssans edward did not take down the templars and besides Rouge had a better storyline
I love you :). You did a thorough research . I'd like to add something , Sword and dagger combo is the best dual wield style. Check out swordsmen reaction videos to Assassin's creed games and witcher .
Y'all only say edward because your more attach him then u are to shay remember shay is very deadly he even was skilled at the age of 16 even killed a pirate captain...
Now rane I’m not here to say your wrong because honestly I love hearing your simulations but some just tells me Edward would see shay coming and Edward is cocky which is usual for a pirate but seeing shay fight would mean that Edward knows he can’t screw around I see shay winning but I believe there is a chance for Edward to get the upper hand to but it’s whatever this is all for fun and honestly love the videos
Hey something feels off about this vide-I FORGOT THE FUCKING INTRO
whatever, I'm not reuploading it because of that but I already know it's going to bother me
I am looking forward to more upcoming videos 👍 are you considering WoW chars? Arthas or Illidan could make for some great match-ups...
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 I'm honestly not big on MMO's and don't know anything about WoW but if someone requested a match I find interesting I'd at least think about it.
@@rane932 me neither, I merely read the novels about the two and peeked in on my sister playing WoW xD I feel they are well comparable with any high level DmC or FF char that matches thematically
@@rane932 you did good
I feel like Edward would win due to him coming up with his own creative way that not all assassins would do. And that is using his pistol sword and his flint rock pistols as a combination, Edward made his own strategy that the assassins don’t use while Shay is used to taking out assassins that have used tactics in the Brotherhood.
Also correct me if I’m wrong but,you missed how Shay has a sense ability that allows him to detect sneak attacks. Also great way to end season one with a bang
Fair points but Shay has dealt with Pirates before and would be familiar with their tactics too, Still it would probably throw him off guard at first. As for Shay's sense I didn't forget, I just didn't think it would play enough of a role against Edward to be worth bringing up especially in a ship environment. But now that I think about it I should have at least mentioned it.
@@rane932 But no pirate could match the skills of Edward.
mcharleau you have plenty of good points why Edward would win, in the end both of them would take a beating before the other went down, but I would side with Edward due to him making up his own rules so the ways of the Assassin’s would work for him instead of being molded into the Brotherhood.
@mcharleau edward wins
@@winter_ghost185 edward wins
Edward died to a woodelf. Shay trained his grandson in 1848. Let's get real. Shay wipes edward on toast just as a warm up
Before I get to watching this video, I'm going to predict that Edward Kenway would win. The thing with Shay as a combatant is that his fighting style is based primarily towards Assassins, whose approaches are mainly in stealth. Edward, however, is the complete opposite, as he's spent a great deal of his life dealing with other opponents and engaging them in open combat, making him far more inclined to engage in close-quarters.
In other words, to cite Brian from 3TopicsGamer as a source, while other Assassins like Ezio adhered to the traditional standards the Brotherhood stood by, Edward instead took the Assassins' methods and made them work specifically for him in physical combat. In my opinion, this approach to a fight is what would put Shay Cormac in some serious trouble.
Are you dumb as well this video explains everything you're only saying that because you're such a fan boy lololololo
My two favorite assassin creed creed protagonists, damn you for this awesome match-up/video xD
Pre-watch call: this apears to be the AC version of Darth Vader (Shay) vs Exar Kun (Edward), with this dynamic mirrored my bets are placed on Edward Kennway.
Good work rane keep it up can't wait for you next match up.
Ya and shay had 2 pistols why edward had 4 so edward would roast em with 4 pistols yea
Physical condition i give to kenway beacuse he probably had harsher training than assassins gave being trained by pirates
weapons i also give to kenway with him having 2 swords and shay only having a sword and knife
Ships definetly goes to shay has better weapons in a lot of aspects
stradegy i give shay an edge being trained in all aspects
battle: before shay assassinated kenway, kenway said better luck next time
thats a huge hell no with kenway if kenway knows this is gonna be touph he is gonna take him out fast he would never make that mistake
but what you did not mention is their quatermasters
this definetly goes to kenway beacause adwale being an assassin also is way better than shays quatermaster since his has almost no combat
winner is kenway in my opinion
Pirates (historically) weren’t very heavily trained they more used basic brutality which anyone can do but I do think physically Edward wins
The amount of grammar in-corrections is the amount of real likes you have bc ik you liked your comment as well
This was amazing love it. In my opinion I say that Edward wins slightly more is because he fights pirates, the templates templars for a living and he fought assassins for a little while so he has just as much knowledge to take all three down and Edward only died due to some random guys. Also Edward kills pirates for a living so any pirates that shay killed Edward can kill to, shay may had more training and experience but for the most part they both have been in the same fights so I say it would be a evenly matched but Edward have fought people that have the amount of training as shay did and Edward won those fights. So I say Edward win slightly for that reason.
Yes man
Bro I know I'm late respond but shay had also fought pirates and if you actually listened to the video you would that shay killed a pirate captain at the age of only 15.
Edwards equipment are far superior, and even thatch once mentioned that Edward fights like a devil. Also Edward is far more versatile. Edward wins. Shay is nothing compared to Edward. I’m not saying Shay Is weak but Edward is more superior and far more versatile.
@@jasemsaeed5967 how?
@@Godisgoodalways7777 his opinion doesn’t make sense lol altair and ezio can kill shay I’m not sure if Edward could.
Shay is Duncan Walpole without the beard. Like same motives, and looks.
Nowhere near.
Not true in the slightest
I'm FIRST! Muahahahahahahahahah!
Also, your versus series is pretty cool. Keep it up.
I cannot agree with you.Shay maybe an assassin hunter,but edward also fought with the assassins at first.He is more experienced with more pirate combat.And most importantly Edward has 4 pistols,whereas shay has only 2.And if you put them with their strongest armors,then Ed would win easily.Except all of these,edward has more healthbar than shay.He survived rifle bullets,survived axe-attacks on head.So without doubt Edward James Kenway would win.
Shay has more experience.
I will state that edward has an eccentric fighting style but so does shay. They both have experience fighting pirates but shay has more experience fighting trained and conditioned fighter...he literally hunts assassin's. I mean shay is an absolute monster who killed every assassin he fought, and all the assassin's who tried to assassinate him while ed, Edward was killed by two mercany. In every category shay has the edge, it will be a good fight but shay outclasses him.
Edward is very fast with his pistols so he shoots in sight
Yes yes Edward wins
Shay has dealt with gunmen before just using sword for example when doing the first mission you can see shay take on four gunmen guns change nothing four shots can be missed it comes down to who’s the better fighter
@@logiciskey3886 but Edward has more skill
@@mrgame8925 shay started fighting by 15 so how does edward have more skill?
@@Godisgoodalways7777 cause he didn’t even train yet he uses two swords and wielding two swords at the same time is not easy lmao but it’s very effective in combat if well used
Dude this is amazing and yay mine won.
Spoilers.
The next one a Persona Three vs Free for all THATS GOING TO BE CRAZY JESUS I CANT WAIT and I can't wait to find out more about these epic looking characters.
Respect rane keep up the epic work 😃👍🏻.
The battle between 3 main anime boi. Can't wait. Another great match up Rane
I have a question for you. Are you planning to use FF7 characters in your match ups? If so then will you focused on them from the original at least until the remake finished or how will you deal with that?
Thank you and can't wait for the finale
I do have a few match ideas involving FF7 but I'll definitely wait until the remake is done before I even consider using those versions
Shay in the case of his best guns was the pair of British Percussion Pistols. These Pistols in regards to the weapon stats for the guns outclassed Edward's for stunning opponents on impact by a factor of one and range and damage by a factor of two. His best sword/dagger combination however is The Sword of Altair and its long dagger counterpart of the same design.
Makoto vs Narukami vs Ren?! I thought you said you couldn't do something like that? I mean it sounds cool. Just sounds like THE most difficult fight you'll ever do.
I couldn't do a match like this with the velvet attendants due to lavenza/the twins not having a definitive Persona, a three way fight with them is still not yet possible for me.
And I hate to disappoint you but I'm taking the easy route on this one and will unfortunately have to limit these 3 to their starting Personas but maybe when I'm ready I will return and give them the full roster. Even just giving them what they had in the Anime would be too much for me which kinda sucks because I already know it will effect the outcome.
I get it, one little baby step at a time. No big, I'm just surprised you'd do something like this anyway.
Although Shay has more experience against fighting against stealth techniques, that doesn't mean he's any slouch when it comes to just fighting in open combat. His naval combat is probably on par with Edward's, given their ability to take on legendary ships that probably outgun them 1-3. This also doesn't consider that Shay's Morrigan was also able to take out Adewale's ship in a freaking blizzard. And Adewale had served underneath Edward. His combat against other master assassins also proves that Shay can adapt effectively to combative methods that differ slightly from the ordinary assassin. Finally, he's shown to be just as effective in an open environment, as he has fought in the North Atlantic, densily wooded forests, and even the cityscape of New York. The only real disadvantage in Shay's corner is he's outgunned by Edward 2-1 in terms of pistols and that his age when compared to Edward makes him less physically effective when compared to Edward.
This all being said, Edward is unpredictable and would certainly give Shay a run for his money, but I think Shay has just enough to take down Edward.
Question is, will they use their 1st persona, best persona or all personas?
1st only i'm afraid, as much as I'd love to use every persona they used I'm just not ready for a fight that big
@@rane932 thought so. Just curious, why not their ultimate/best persona?
@@GoodNeutralEvilChaos 2 reasons. 1: it would be an incredibly unbalanced fight. 2: there's not really all that much information to use, sure you can fuse them but none of their stat info is canon
@@rane932 fair enough. I look forward to it.
Great video and, omg a persona battle royal is a matchup I've been waiting for someone to do for a long time, talk about ending the season with a bang. (A quick request list) 1. Leon Kennedy vs Jill valentine (resident evil) 2. Solid snake (metal gear) vs agent 47 (hitman) 3.Harley Quinn (dc) vs nora valkyrie (rwby) keep up the good work 👍👍👍
Damn you actually went in depth
The twin sword being better than a Sword x Dagger isn't fully accurate, as the purpose of the pairing is to subvert weaknesses. A long weapon has more reach, but less maneuverability and accuracy, where as a short weapon is the opposite. I'd say melee weapons are equal for both combatants as they both work for different things. Also, Love the vid, My bet pre-watch was 7/shay 3/edward. I mean, man has a grenade launcher full of berserk gas. Straight up carrying a war crime stick on his back.
Will you do Kratos God Of War series vs War or Fury from Darksiders?
True,Shay is more skilled. 👍
Edward would actually win.
He has more experience in sailing and naval combat
Larger arsenal of weapons
Kills a SAGE
Has a better crew
Doesn’t fight like a trained assassin, thus shay’s knowledge wouldn’t benefit him.
Shay is simply out of his element and wouldn’t know how to handle someone like Edward.
I love how you mixed star wars in it bro i was thinking Edward would use juyo though
If I had a nickel for every time Edward was unfairly killed I’d have 2 nickels which isn’t a lot but it is annoying that it happened twice
Would like to see a sequel for either characters from Ubisoft.
Your wrong because Edward wouldn’t make that mistake think about it like how haytham got by Conor same exsact thing but Edward wouldn’t make that mistake chances are really low Edward could have shot him stabbed him with his sword
It wouldn’t make sense
Because Conor killed haytham same way
Edward was cocky and Shay was not
Great video, but you forgot the Jackdaw has heavy shot.
Shay would honestly win
I dont agree with this result at all but each to their own
People saying shay would get defeated just because edwards approach is not like mainstream assasin mainly stealth and things, thats kinda dumb the thing is shay isnt stupid he sneaks up on assasins who are already sneaking 💀💀 he is a full on ghost and as far as people saying edward combat is deadly shay is equally deadly he canonically beat le chasseur without getting hit once shay is just underrated asf
Could you do a Ezio vs Bayek video, if you both want and can?
I actually think the equipment is closer than you suggested sword and dagger may technically have slightly less range than two sword fighting it is functionally irrelevant because your second sword will get in the way of your primary sword far more than a dagger. Additionally Shay's grenade launcher can be fired in almost the same amount of tirm as firing a flintlock and it is much MUCH deadlier.
I'm very excited on the Persona matchup! Do you have any interest in using any final fantasy characters? In particular, I think a Dragoon match up would be wicked!
so dude how do feel about this match up do you think you did good work here
I don't know, my opinion of my videos change as time goes on, for now yeah I think I did alright
@@rane932 so man you have joker in your next vs video
@@zacktaft Yep
@@rane932 and he is against 2 other people so you think has a chance
@@zacktaft oh no, It's a free for all.
I think edward would have won because he has his rope dart that can be pulled out quickly and be could have used it to hang shay to attack from a distance or to catch shay off guard
Shay also has rope darts and is adept at killing master assassins sooo
Edward vs shay is a very easy answer and the answer is Edward. But if we were talking about naval combat I would say the morrigan over the jackdaw only because rogues technology was more better than black flags technology.
Shay wins but he would be on the brink of death
Honestly I think that Edward since he can be intelligent if there swords were locked he would angle his blade to the right position where he could take a shot at shay which could weaken him if not kill him meaning if Edward did that Edward could easily get the upper hand
"GREEDY AHH WELSHMAN VS LEPRICON"
17:46 that’s a lot of ships
Dude ur not counting the fact shay only had 2 pistols and edward had 4 thats enough alone 2 win for edward
No
Nice, can't wait for this seasons finale
At the start u r incorrect he was a privateer not a pirate a privateer works for the navy/royal family
But the rest is mostly100% nice job on the long script u just got a new sub
Edward would be the winner
Are you stupid did you just watch the video no he would not lololo
Shut up Edward meat rider,he already explained everything.
I feel like it would be VERY close but Shay would come out on top. He was trained by Achilles and the colonial Brotherhood AND trained himself to be the ultimate assassin hunting machine. His equipment is also superior. His custom templar sword and dagger, dual flintlocks, and silenced air rifle outclass anything edward has. Shay is also physically bigger and stronger and more durable, and is able to survive hidden blade assassination stabs up close. Sorry to say but Shay's superior physicality, superior weapons and training from both Assassin and Templar factions just outclass Edward
With all of their equipment and skills shown in their games considered I think it would be a draw but if I had to pick an absolute winner I think Edward would only barely just come out victorious, but barely.
Shay has a bit of a technology advantage with basically a grenade launcher with gas and explosive ones, but shay I feel is more equipped to fight traditional assassins which Edward is not, he is more willing to jump into a fight and probably has tricks shay has never seen with him being a pirate, which is why I think Edward would win, I think he has enough not traditional assassins tactics to get him the win but only just enough
Idk man from personal experience the Morrigan can yes deal some damage but I’ve decimated level 60 Man O’ War ships with level 38 frigates (pirate hunter) without losing a bar as the Jackdaw but with Morrigan level 48 Man O’ Wars can give me a fight and pose somewhat of a threat so I know we’re being realistic but idk
this is wrong
ezio auditore would beat shay cormac and edward kenway beats ezio so edward kenway wins
No
@@DoubleFacedThreads yes ezio can lol how y’all don’t know ezio can literally can beat every assassins and Templar’s ezio from Ac revelations is dangerous, he was throwing guards away with his hidden blade and breaking arms, when he fight with his sword he can breaking necks, even lift them up when he stabs through their head lol
@@Kensho-gw5cp fighting in rogue is a lot more brutal and agile when compared to revelations
@@Kensho-gw5cp and honestly the strongest assassin is more than likely Connor kenway
I feel even Jacob could take ezio in a fight and before you disagree watch the way he fights before and then answer honestly
@@Kensho-gw5cp literally 3 black flag rogue unity and syndicate protagonist all snap necks it’s nothing special
edward is better in my opinion for 2 reasons: he has my name "Eduardo" translated into english Edward and also because he fought for a good cause in my opinion, he conquered great things, and above all, he helped Adéwale a lot to have a great direction in his life, but unfortunately he found his end in his Shay's hands
Shay is just more experience shay killed multiple master assinssans and edward did almost nothing
But here’s the thing Edward also killed assassins and he successfully assassinated the grand Templar of the assassins order not to mention the fact that Edward had a unique style of fighting different from the Assassins the Assassins are more sneaky while Edward likes to go in heavy fact of the matter is Yes Shay has more Experience but that would mean he would expect Edward to fight like regular assassins being sneaky but Edward is aggressive so even though they are about equal I got to give the victory to Edward
@@thebestteammate6528 you have a point but shay has fighting experience from both sides he has the sneaky and the aggressive style plus Shays basterd sword and dagger allows him to do some very unexpected attacks
Yeah so in other words it would be a tie
Very awesome bring it yay 😃👍🏻.
Shay was honestly more boring that Edward Edward would kick shay ass shay only as 4 damage weapons while edward as 8 damage weapons edward outfits looks better and as more outfit that shay edward as so many suits like the altar suit and the enzo suit and the conour suit shay only as the onward suit that look kida nice on him in asscreed rouge I only use the kenway suit like Conor and Edward in asscreed black flag you had two armoured suits that you have to unlocked the Frist suit you had to unlocked doing tempuler hunt I loved those kissing the suit increase you sword damage and pistol damage by 50 the second suit is like wearing a tank no damage from guns but enemy's 9 damage less to you but the suit does not affect brute so edward would win
Yep 1000 agree and connor
Tf is this man doing using Star Wars in an assassins creed video lol
I would say Edward Kenway would win due to his accuracy I think in the scene where Edward shoots Shay I think he would just aim at his head and end him there or after that scene he would pull out another gun and just make a well placed shot that would kill Shay or Edward could just get onto the mast spot Shay and use his guns to kill Shay but that’s my opinion what do you think
Nice video but Edward would win shay defeated all his friends by him self but edward did the same edward dud nore fighting then shay if edward as at his normal age in the game rip shay shay does not have most the experience of edward yes shay is called the assassin hunter but what does he got trained by a man that was trained by a solder edward takes thos this hard difficulty
No shay did more fighting then edward
I wish Edward Kenway would win but I love him more than shay fucking Cormac
Bruh have u even played rogue
Shay detected hundreds of assassins who jumped on him from buildings and countered thrm
Why eould it be different with edward
As soon as edward jumps he would akready be dead
Fight over in 2 mins
Obviously Edward Kenway wins
Explain your logic if you would kind sir
@@logiciskey3886 ive explained it probably a 100 times before.
@@logiciskey3886 Edward has better weapons and is better in dual wielding and is faster because he doesn't use a long sword like Shay and edward is way more familliar with people like shay than shay is because he never really faught pirates like edward and Edward is more brutal and cunning than Shay not only is he better with swords but he is faster because his swords are smaller and lighter and using a long sword meant for 2 hands in one hand and a dagger isnt a good balance besides Edward has 2 pistol swords and is much more used to sword fights than shay . EDWARD is faster and more ruthless than shay. Ive finished both games multiple times i love them both but Edward definitely comes out on top but Shay would have no problem kicking Ezios ass
@@sean-douglasroberts5150 Edward has a blowpipe shay has an air rifle which is better. Neither assassin uses a long sword
Shay is just as familiar with people as Edward
Both are literally the same speed
In the first few cutscenes you see shay take on four gunmen so doesn’t matter how many guns Edward has and shay has been fighting since he was sixteen
He has just a bit more of experience than Edward altogether I think shay wins considering he’s notorious for killing master assassins
But you were right about that last part im pretty sure every assassin after ezio is stronger than ezio but I think I understand your opinion too
Thanks for the chat
Also shay was at sea too pretty sure he fought pirates along the way
But Edward get his Hiden blades like 1715-1716 and the game ends in 1724 then he have years to train with hiden blades so i just Dissagre it ( bad English sorry)
This is fact if people disagree they must be stupid
Untrue some people might have some things that he might have forgotten about or he might not have known so just saying that people are stupid just because they disagree would be a huge mistake on anybody’s part
Give me Connor vs Shay
This is bias I mean Edward won't make a mistake like that he would just finish shay it feels like u like shay more so u made the whole battle fair but in the the end you screwed Edward
Your opinion is bias as well
@@logiciskey3886 very true
True honestly to me it would be a draw what would happen is Edward fatally shoots Shay but Edward bleeds to death so technically shay beats Edward but Shay ends up dying from his wounds
Most people just be saying Edward would win because everyone hates shay shay hunted assassins and had way more experience than Edward he is better at combat me personally think he is stronger than Edward I just think Edward finally meets his match shay was just freaking crazy
I am sorry Edward killed asssins6in havana shat ain't more experience
The assisns in rouge are rom a younger time If shay hunted any assins from black flag shay would be dead shay is weak and does not have any more experience then edward edward was trained by a solder
@@whoknows6955 shay fought pirates when young and he defeated adewale and if those assassin's were from a younger time why were the assassin's more advanced than Edward's and adewale was just as skilled as Edward himself
@@dakalodk2874 I have played rogue trust me edward takes the w
@@whoknows6955 you can’t even spell right and you think Edward wins shay is notorious for killing assassins shay was fighting when he was sixteen he has more experience than you give him credit for
Literally the assassins from shays times were stronger than the ones in black flag
The moment you heard Edward vs somebody else it’s automatic win . That’s complete and utter bullshit
Yeah you can think what you want but shay would easily lose. You can’t survive that many shots so stop being biased and make a good unbiased video.
Meh I doubt shay would even get shot
And two if Edward won that wouldn’t be bias
Very hypocritical of you
Shay who’s adept at taking out gunmen which is shown within the first few cutscenes and known for killing master assassins
I think your just attached to Edward and upset he didn’t win
Guts (Berserk) vs Conan (there can be only one Conan, duh)
If it's a navel battle Edward wins but if it's a land fight I. Say shay since when he was an assassin he was already master level so with years of templar training he might be the 1st or 2 strongest templar
The morrigan is way stronger than the jackdaw
@@Blake45167 the ship yes but the daws crew is more experienced and has 2 assassin's on board.
@@xytech7432 but shay is a master assassin killer he’s killed multiple masters
@@Blake45167 and edward is a pirate more then a assassin. He fights differently and fights a lot more dirty
@@Blake45167 on land and a hand to hand fight shay wins but in a naval battle Edward might. The sea is Edwards territory where he fights the most and spent most of his life on
Shay would win because he makes his own luck no arguments guys😂
This is bullshit we all know Edward wins
Shay has more experience shay was trained by assinssans and templars edward kenway only was a assinssans at the end of the game shay killed multiple master assinssans edward did not kill as many powerful characters shay took down the assinssans edward did not take down the templars and besides Rouge had a better storyline
I love you :). You did a thorough research . I'd like to add something , Sword and dagger combo is the best dual wield style. Check out swordsmen reaction videos to Assassin's creed games and witcher .
Y'all only say edward because your more attach him then u are to shay remember shay is very deadly he even was skilled at the age of 16 even killed a pirate captain...
True but Edward has a unique fighting style and Edward could use his sword guns to shoot Shay if they were in a sword lock
0:45 duncan ba duncan
All hail Shay Patrick Cormac 😊
Now rane I’m not here to say your wrong because honestly I love hearing your simulations but some just tells me Edward would see shay coming and Edward is cocky which is usual for a pirate but seeing shay fight would mean that Edward knows he can’t screw around I see shay winning but I believe there is a chance for Edward to get the upper hand to but it’s whatever this is all for fun and honestly love the videos
Is shay the only templor that can DEFEAT ALL THE ASSASSIN'S 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😱😱😡
Shay i make my own luck
this video is so poorly made
And if Edward won it would been amazing then huh 🧐
Cut the damm cap
If there in there prime pour pour shay if edward didn't die pour pour Shay
Edward wins
15:52
This is some BS
100% Edward wins.
Edward was honestly a boring character compared to Shay
Id say shay is more boring
I say that shay was more boring than connor
Edward will beat shay ass
@@thatboisway8220 edward would defeat all assians expect for Conor
@@whoknows6955 ezio would only just beat Edward I think, conor is the best at h2h combat I think tho
Assasens cred ruog 🥰🤩🤩🤩😍
in a legit fight, 3 years is really nothing
Edward wins