What these pros don’t understand is that if they don’t make the gameplay entertaining, they won’t have jobs soon. Money stops coming in if people don’t watch. People will stop watching if they’re just using the same 2 stale guns all year. There needs to be more to the game than just mindless run and gunning.
100%. The viewers perspective should be the only thing that matters. Without us there is no CDL. Go have fun playing you “competitively balanced” game for no viewers or cash. That’s the road we’re heading down soon
No they won't . Ppl will still watch . This happens with all sports, rules change and the ppl complain but the numbers keep going up bc now more ppl are talking about it.
Obviously we are not pros but I dont understand at all why snipers are GAd. Not even alittle bit, every time pros talk about snipers it seems to be no valid reason behind the GA from where I’m sitting as a fan.
@@vvemomusic5543 I see where they’re coming from. But what confuses me is they act like it’s super OP, going to be ran every round of Search. It’s not. Can they swing momentum sometimes? Yeah sure. But they’re not OP at all.
The most glaring issue is you’re expecting young adults with no business experience or conversational ability to make educated decisions. The player base is too unreliable and not held accountable for their immaturity.
I think there should be 4 "roles" and they should each be required to run a different gun. Like 1 Model L, 1 XM4, 1 Jackal and 1 Saug. Actually give some parity and have incentive for certain players to have certain roles.
most braindead take ive ever heard😭 y tf if im being paid to win a tourney openly except using a worse weapon then other people thats just dumb and how u kill the league from the players side bc thats just not competitive at all
3:50 It sounds like it's a systemic issue, jp is right; there's a reason they're dubbed "mandatory," EVERYONE should be there to give their personal input & come to a majority consensus & make the game as playable as possible. Think about all the guns, streaks, tactical & equipment we've missed out on bc hella players aren't showing up to the a couple of meetings that define the entire year
its almost funny how stupid the GA situation is, you wouldn't think these are grown men competing for salaries and 6 figure prizes. banning guns which seemingly haven't been (sometimes substantially or thoroughly) tested, hardly typing in the official chats, saying one thing online and another in private, you start to wonder if some pros even think about the game in a numbers or theoretical sense whatsoever? or if they just play 8 hours a day (if that) and call that good practice.
I wanna see a team say full fuck all those GAs and snipe and run the saug anyway😭 I’d prolly root for them cuz they wanna actually play cod not shooting simulator
Again, using these “pro” players logic, they should just ban the jackal. It’s obviously broken. Like what it’s such a bias friendship league it’s sick. Leave everything in besides the xm4. 4 xm4s on the map is clearly a problem. But then again that was a week into the game and have since nerfed the shit out of it. Make it make sense man
Snipers should be in it more strats available (skill and knowledge) plus a smoke is far more enjoyable as views and makes the pros showcase why they are pros in a sense…. I mean if your a top player and can’t out play a sniper are you really a top player 🤔 No attachments and only the lw3 would be viable
@bigbobbyjhonson6415 still the same point, they are complaining about the maps and not having counters to it. So if there's only 1 team with a sniper then there's no counters to it (the reason it's banned in the first place)
we need to go back to bo2 rules and let the pros run whatever they want. If I get a chopper gunner against another pro team I’m using it. Don’t be ass and you won’t get punished. Limiting the “pros” is horrible imo.
It seems like what the Pros are doing is GA'ing things that will give their team a competitive advantage. Which isnt the point of a GA. GA's are for removing things that give an unfair advantage if all players dont have that option, or make the game so cheesey that it makes it unfun to even play. I think if snipers are overpowered, dont straight up ban them, make it so only one person per team can have one. If that sniper can hold down a lane, cool. You know you cant peak that lane and push the flank. I also think banning specific guns is good, but that can cause a map to be nothing but 3 different guns. Which becomes stale to watch. I think of Ghosts competitive. You had three options of SMG(m-tar, vector, and bison), 3 options of AR(remmington, ak, and f2000), and a sniper. It made the game interesting. How this is going its going to be 1 ar and 1 smg.
Anyone complaining about a 2 gun stale meta is blaming the wrong people. Warzone is entirely to blame for these stale classes. You can modify the best gun to have no recoil aim in fast do whatever is needed because of the attachment system. The only true way to have a multi gun meta is with the pick 10 system which would make different guns viable because the attachments are limited and you can’t build a god gun. Warzone has ruined cod multiplayer. And to the morons saying there shouldn’t be GAs and they should get to use whatever they want….would you really like to 8 krigs on the map at all times because that’s the most optimal gun like?????
I event a year should be dedicated to dropping the GA system entirely. Anything goes. Viewership will soar initially because of the chaos but over time a better GA structure will emerge from the freedom of it.
“Are they grown men?” Had me rolling
I love how smart Dyl is man… so inspirational in a crowd of some pros who r literally children in talks like these
You're a legend for uploading this
Im loving your perspectives and insight, hope you keep up the content JP
Ben is 100% right. That is exactly how professional boards are conducted and for good reason.
10 different people having 10 different conversations at the same time 😅
Bro, JP drawing on Octane and Zoomaa had me crying LMAOO
let me wear sunglasses for this video, bright ahh screen
What these pros don’t understand is that if they don’t make the gameplay entertaining, they won’t have jobs soon. Money stops coming in if people don’t watch. People will stop watching if they’re just using the same 2 stale guns all year. There needs to be more to the game than just mindless run and gunning.
Zero variety everyone running same class same equipment same gun. Lame
100%. The viewers perspective should be the only thing that matters. Without us there is no CDL. Go have fun playing you “competitively balanced” game for no viewers or cash. That’s the road we’re heading down soon
No they won't . Ppl will still watch . This happens with all sports, rules change and the ppl complain but the numbers keep going up bc now more ppl are talking about it.
Obviously we are not pros but I dont understand at all why snipers are GAd. Not even alittle bit, every time pros talk about snipers it seems to be no valid reason behind the GA from where I’m sitting as a fan.
@@vvemomusic5543 I see where they’re coming from. But what confuses me is they act like it’s super OP, going to be ran every round of Search. It’s not. Can they swing momentum sometimes? Yeah sure. But they’re not OP at all.
Honestly this is content the community needs
I have never in my life heard someone say “they want that prac” in reference to practice until Ben.
The most glaring issue is you’re expecting young adults with no business experience or conversational ability to make educated decisions.
The player base is too unreliable and not held accountable for their immaturity.
they dont think the gun is good and got rid of it bc its a dlc gun? these pros are so lost LOL
1:29:01 when kenny says no dlc gun has been allowed is kinda not true due to shotzzy taking out the Grau in MW19 (even if it was for one hill)
That burst rifle in ww2
Ww2 is not cdl
You don’t need a month to decide if something’s OP, also CoD is a 12month game meaning it needs to be implemented as quick as possible 😊
comp cod feels like its slowly gone down the gutter since mw2019
Lmao JP drawing while everyone is talking is fucking comedy 🤣🤣🤣
I think there should be 4 "roles" and they should each be required to run a different gun. Like 1 Model L, 1 XM4, 1 Jackal and 1 Saug. Actually give some parity and have incentive for certain players to have certain roles.
most braindead take ive ever heard😭 y tf if im being paid to win a tourney openly except using a worse weapon then other people thats just dumb and how u kill the league from the players side bc thats just not competitive at all
3:50 It sounds like it's a systemic issue, jp is right; there's a reason they're dubbed "mandatory," EVERYONE should be there to give their personal input & come to a majority consensus & make the game as playable as possible. Think about all the guns, streaks, tactical & equipment we've missed out on bc hella players aren't showing up to the a couple of meetings that define the entire year
This is history
Loony is funny asf😭
Imagine competitive Halo without the sniper… asinine
its almost funny how stupid the GA situation is, you wouldn't think these are grown men competing for salaries and 6 figure prizes.
banning guns which seemingly haven't been (sometimes substantially or thoroughly) tested, hardly typing in the official chats, saying one thing online and another in private, you start to wonder if some pros even think about the game in a numbers or theoretical sense whatsoever? or if they just play 8 hours a day (if that) and call that good practice.
Do a mandatory league wide straw poll overseen by a league rep. Simple.
I wanna see a team say full fuck all those GAs and snipe and run the saug anyway😭 I’d prolly root for them cuz they wanna actually play cod not shooting simulator
Again, using these “pro” players logic, they should just ban the jackal. It’s obviously broken. Like what it’s such a bias friendship league it’s sick. Leave everything in besides the xm4. 4 xm4s on the map is clearly a problem. But then again that was a week into the game and have since nerfed the shit out of it. Make it make sense man
Thats what i said too 😂
“Pro” lolol
They should’ve have banned the Saug. But I also don’t think the Jackal is OP…. At all 😅
Snipers should be in it more strats available (skill and knowledge) plus a smoke is far more enjoyable as views and makes the pros showcase why they are pros in a sense…. I mean if your a top player and can’t out play a sniper are you really a top player 🤔
No attachments and only the lw3 would be viable
They are only top players in sense of gun skill. When it comes to brains non existent
Ong bro it seems like they are complaining because they can’t adapt to a simple sniper… like u said use smokes work around being sniped 🤷🏾♂️
Maybe only a single sniper on the map and if it does come out it has to be on the defensive team
Only defence wouldn't be good, no opportunity for counters and is exacerbating the issue they are talking about
Maybe only on offense then?
@bigbobbyjhonson6415 still the same point, they are complaining about the maps and not having counters to it. So if there's only 1 team with a sniper then there's no counters to it (the reason it's banned in the first place)
Here a crazy idea, stop letting players decide the rules. The league needs to step up and create an actual rule set
1:26:15 kenny joins the call
we need to go back to bo2 rules and let the pros run whatever they want. If I get a chopper gunner against another pro team I’m using it. Don’t be ass and you won’t get punished. Limiting the “pros” is horrible imo.
It seems like what the Pros are doing is GA'ing things that will give their team a competitive advantage. Which isnt the point of a GA. GA's are for removing things that give an unfair advantage if all players dont have that option, or make the game so cheesey that it makes it unfun to even play.
I think if snipers are overpowered, dont straight up ban them, make it so only one person per team can have one. If that sniper can hold down a lane, cool. You know you cant peak that lane and push the flank.
I also think banning specific guns is good, but that can cause a map to be nothing but 3 different guns. Which becomes stale to watch.
I think of Ghosts competitive. You had three options of SMG(m-tar, vector, and bison), 3 options of AR(remmington, ak, and f2000), and a sniper. It made the game interesting. How this is going its going to be 1 ar and 1 smg.
Anyone complaining about a 2 gun stale meta is blaming the wrong people. Warzone is entirely to blame for these stale classes. You can modify the best gun to have no recoil aim in fast do whatever is needed because of the attachment system.
The only true way to have a multi gun meta is with the pick 10 system which would make different guns viable because the attachments are limited and you can’t build a god gun. Warzone has ruined cod multiplayer.
And to the morons saying there shouldn’t be GAs and they should get to use whatever they want….would you really like to 8 krigs on the map at all times because that’s the most optimal gun like?????
Ben’s hockey analogy…..just smh 🤦
At this point let’s ga the pros from playing pubs and ranked because they are too o.p.
Take the power away from players, they are just always going to support what’s going to make their team better. Come on now…
Agreed. Player empowerment ruined the NBA and it sure as hell is ruining COD
We need to bring back ban and protect
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I event a year should be dedicated to dropping the GA system entirely. Anything goes. Viewership will soar initially because of the chaos but over time a better GA structure will emerge from the freedom of it.
Ben has 0 business having any kind of opinion on anything. This dude has the most shit takes on EVERYTHING.
Stfu he cares more than the lazy ass pros
Ben is annoying af
874th
this is complicating things way too much. just let the players vote on shit. they play the game more than anybody
Clearly they can’t be trusted
fIRsT 🤪
Ben should dedicate his time to reading bedtime stories online because God, his voice is so boring.Could literally fall asleep driving.
Your part of the problem of the community ben is making valid point to benefit viewers. Listen to what he says not how he sounds. Brain dead child