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after finishing 8th and Bottom of the champions league group, Flawless has enough CONCRETE EVIDENCE to not rate that Manchester United team especially Erik Ten Hag !! #TenHagOut
@@OCastaneda16 Ppl kept saying Rudd will make Trashford better, as is Ruud is up front playing himself 🤦
You can't expect a manager to completely change in his 3rd year. He had 2 entire years to play beautiful attacking football.
He's still doing Bruno rashford hoofball.
So Ten Hag is Arteta 2.0 … got it
Champions league finalist Jadon Sancho has to "fight for his place" while Antony gets minutes.
Do you know how bonkers that sounds????
Bro I don't understand why ineos didn't sack him I'm sure it's not about the money there is something weird and strange about this manager
It's obvious he can't manage big clubs he have no tactics no charisma no communication skills no man management what does it take to sack him ?
Facts the whole situation is madness
Deluded
You do realise jadon sancho has been a flop for you. So why do you guys keep pretending he's gonna perform eventually
@@SASMADBRUV7 player fc
EtH is basing his subs on "Who can score a goal for me"...He never thinks or says "How can we play better". He is going to kill Mainoo with this level of incompetence
Wait isn't that what you supposed to do
another thing Rhino, Rashford was ABSOLUTELY RUBBISH the entire time he was on the pitch and was SIGNIFICANTLY worse than amad in the 1st half and rightfully so he got hooked first.
Rashford has been a bench impact player since his 30+ goal scoring season. We just don’t have anyone better on the left apart from sancho who is banished
You didn't get what Rhino was saying.
ETH's 3rd season, We are still talking about playing well in moments.
Cant keep ball for long periods either..or kill a game dead...if you have the ball other team can't score..that's why arsenal and City are dominant and Liverpool to a point as well...arsenal didn't play well today but they kept the ball ans didn't get pinned in their own half/box.. was always one dictating how game was going...we are going to lose many games this season due to this..because we allow sides to pin us in our own box and then it allow opportunities for crosses to come in..or pinball inside Box..we conceded from.2 crosses today because we don't close down cross and we allow sides to push inside our own box...Brighton play risky high line football with dunk...he as slow as maguire...fans excuses as always we can push up because of maguire...even when de ligt came on we sat deep..its instructions from the manager and coaching...fans can't see this..they need help
ERIK Ten Hag is DUSTED!!! #TenHagOut
Rhino... there is a difference between United having a bad first half than United having a bad second half. Reason being is halftime comes you go in the dressing room and can make changes to start the 2nd half of the game.. if your shit in the 2nd half of the game there is a higher probability of you drawing or losing the game and you have no other opportunities to get something out of the game. I can't give credit to the team for being okay in 1st half of a game then imploding in the 2nd. We clearly knew the news of Amad losing his step mother and it clearly affected him but guess what 2nd half came and he had a 2nd chance to improve and he did. HE improved, not the team.. we are still playing individual brilliance football which is crazy to me. the difference between us and Brighton football wise was not fair they looked like not a single pass they made was for no reason or purely out of freestyling it. we couldn't string passes together because that's how we train.
adam ball knowledge is elite. the biggest problems are eth, rashford, bruno and mount. these clueless scrubs. and everyone wants to blame the actual tekky ballers like amad and sancho. but those 4 get millions of chances from these braindead fans.
Bruno Fernandes and Marcus Rashford have a problem at Manchester United for the last years … until they leave the same cycle of mediocrity style of play will continue
Mount got 'millions' of chances? He's hardly played!
Picking Mactrash and Maguire and expect good results is ridiculous
Most United fans have been scapegoating Varane and Casemiro… they DESERVE Maguire and Mctominay for years to come
@@OCastaneda16bro put the fanbase on a side
Why ineos are interfering in the first 11 it's obvious this manager doesn't care about who play better it's all about favouritism for him
This club is so weird and strange why they didn't sack there is nothing good about this manager 600 million of garbage transfers
Facts pal. It’s season 3 of Erik ten Hag and he has to deliver this season
Word
Amen. Those who were blaming Varane and Casemiro deserves McTominay and Maguire.
At the start of this stream, Moosa articulated it perfectly in regards to ten hag outers. With every evidence that we are seeing right in front of us, all we want is to be proven wrong.
We have been proven right unfortunately. I have no hope with this manager. I tot he would change. The thing that pisses me off is that he always always picks the wrong team. He has the tools to play more offensively ie more cohesive. Bruno case in middle, kobbie no 10, sancho left amad right ZZ top. But he just doesn't want to.
Sucks balls man
After Ten Haags 10th season in 18th position we will say give him time its not his team yet
United fans will blame the referee and VAR before holding their egg head manager of Ten Hag of ANY ACCOUNTABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY!
Marcel was talking about us winning PLs and CLs with Ten Hag in 10 years. Man must definitely be on the payroll if mans think Ten Hag will last for 10 years. Man will be lucky to be at United by christmas.
United fans always talking about how much arteta has spent but after this summer ETH has spent the same amount of money and at united and look at Arsenal 😂😂😂😂😂
Nothing surprises me with United anymore, a manager collected 7 from our arch rival and he’s still in the job.
Oh my god !!!! Adam is elite ......
Wtf is Rhino talking what a pointless point. His point literally meant nothing
He gets held up on useless niche points
Man gives so many excuses for Hojlund with "he's young, give him time" but want to slander Amad. I know these mans have a agenda against our best players that's why they wanna twerk for theikes of Hojlund, Garnacho, Bruno
He is the only one objective!
Y'all are saying the same things over and over without thinking.
Ck’s way of looking at football is very different, not in a good way. Want Rashford, Hojlund and Garnacho as our front 3… 🤦♂️😵😂 rates Mount… its good with different opinions, but you have to have som ball knowledge to begin with… that would be nice.
And what's this bs about the end of last season we struggled without Bruno and Rashford. Has mans forgotten that these two have been involved in our heaviest and most embarrassing defeats. Both played part of our worse seasons. This statement is so false that these mans just want to prove that when we lose when they're not in the team that means we shit without them. This CK guy is clueless as fuck. Man said that front 3 of Rashford, Hojlund and Garnacho is our best front 3 over Sancho, Zirkzee and Amad. You have a front 3 of haram ball and a front 3 of technical ability but because their stats isn't good it means they're shit. Just waffling these mans are.
People were saying 80 goals between 6 players. 58 goals again incoming 😂🤣🤭
Yh flawless broke it all down and rest of pannel couldn't understand...to score 80 90 goals in attacking 6 players..means they all need to have their best scoring seasons...its unrealistic...
Man need to understand ETH intentionally ignores our midfield especially in the buildup. He just wants runners in midfield for pressing not technical players to control possession. That’s why we overplay the long hall from Onana and the centre backs
This american dude is clueless
United literally lost to a poor Brighton team and here you are twerking for ten hag
Man said before the season Rashford, Hojlund and Garnacho was our best front 3 compared to Sancho, Zirkzee and Amad. This guy is clueless. Just another toxic positivity
Lawd please let this man get sacked cause I can’t take this after every loss. I guess my expectations are lower cause I never thought we’d be challenging this season regardless. Ups and downs is what envisioned. I think it’s still gonna take a few more transfer windows.
The attack has been built around Bruno and Rashford for years. In this time their individual stats as a whole have been good for them, but the team has not scored enough or played well enough. We can’t allow our attack to be built around these guys for another 4 years or we’re only going to fall further behind. I want to see something different
this ck guys has horrible knowledge cant Liebig up Adam always elite knowledge
I just don't see Ten fraud getting the best out of this team.
And Erik 7 Fraud is on year 3 and the manager FC fanboys will make excuses for him unfortunately .. they back the manager over the football club
Marcel was talking about Ten Hag will win tons of PLs and CLs in the next 10 years. He's definitely on the payroll. Noway mans can be talking like that about a fraud of a manager. Never in my life supporting United that the likes of Ten Hag and Bruno are highly rated so much like they're Fergie and CR7. I honestly believe these gen Z fans rate these two more than our legends. You always see these mutants compare stats to legends of the game. They were saying Bruno sits on the same table as Kroos and Modric. If he's sitting on the same table with them he better be the waiter serving them food and collecting the bill. It's the same as Ten Hag these mans think he's sits on the same table as Pep, Jose and Don Carlo. When your own countryman don't rate you who fuck is Ten Hag in football. Ruud Gullit told this man your tactics are shit live on Dutch TV. Ten Hag could never last this long at a big club or serious club who has standards outside the PL. His levels is Saudi or back to Eredivisie
people think that we will start controlling games immediately after what happened last season? that is delusion. there were positive signs but the problem is mentality, when brighton scored we had an instant reaction then we cooled off until the equalizer then the manager made mind boggling decisions. we are searching a winner and you introduced mc tominay for bruno??? instead of mainoo who was tired as the game was ending.
As long as we continue with the 4231 we will struggle. Bruno for all his strengths does not contribute to us controlling games in midfield
Rhino just waffles man, always trying to create a pointless debate 🤦♂🤣🤣
Rhino how do you know it was Ten hag’s decision to keep Amad on, it could have been Hake or Ruud
If rhino genuinely believes ten hag rates amad then im genuinely shocked for words😂😂😂
He obviously doesn’t rate him otherwise he would’ve played last season. Guarantee like the panel said if amad doesn’t get a goal or assist next game he’s dropped 100%
If Amad didn't score. It would have been him subbed instead of Rashford
Rhino was waffling MAD. Eth doesn’t want to play him it’s so obvious
Big up Saeed, it’s nice to see the triple digits beside the subscribe button 💯… but united in the mud.. ynwaa we gonna make it 2 loses in a row.. all love Congrats 👑🔥
Saeed congratulations on 100k from the States!! I’ve been here since the early United Central days, love when Adam and Moosa are on, they deliver straight facts! Moosa’s Maguire/bank analogy was hilarious!
Antony is shit no doubt but selling Rashford before Antony does actually make sense. It's no secret Marcus Rashford is my favourite player in Manchester United but he's been at the club for 8 years and never became the player everyone thought he is. He's done out here and needs to be be sold. I have favourites but I keep the same energy with the players when they're shit. The club always comes first.
ERIK TEN HAG OUT !!
No manager is bigger than the football club
#TenHagOut
God bless you Saeed 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻. Well done on the 100k 💙💙💙💙
Let's talk about Eric Ten hag ajax team, who were winning Tottenham,but because Eric Ten hag doesn't and hasn't ever understood what control means they kept themselves open until the inevitable happened,so this is who he is and the earlier the management understands this the better.
Amad redeemed himself but he did not have a good game. Respect for the goal for what it stood for. I wanted him to score. I love the fact that second half he was angry and wanted to redeem himself which he did. We need players who are like that. Overall, no one was outstanding. I understand Rhino. It is no slander to no one.
I must agree with Moosa we are just waiting for ETH to be sacked It is only a matter of time . Every body is going on about the goals we conceded which is fair enough . But our attack is clueless especially in the final third and i do not see it getting any better with ETH as coach .WE knew that Brighton were going to play with a high line in defense and they would be open to be caught on the counter . All we had to do was to make sure that were ONSIDE when we played thru them or over the top . Could they do that no they could not . Did they practice that i doubt that .All we had to do was get that right and we would have won Three Two or maybe even more
Here for the tears. Ten Hag at the WHEEEEELLLLL!!!! 10 more years!
Those players give zero shits under that manager. Literally standing around and letting Brighton go thorough them. I'm a Spurs fan and thankfully have Ange. We have a way to go, but at least they play for the manager.
Training cone united
Aren't you the same team that Ange said "There is something more sinister" when your team laid dead for Man City to win?
@@BigGuapo3000 That's history.. we move forward :)
We were very good with Eriksen and Case as double pivot and Sancho in 9 in preseason
I had to leave Nuru show early because those man were didn’t watch the game and we’re just ready to sympathize
Ive argued ten hag football has gotton worse as he has gotten more involved..remember we came 3rd in hes 1st season..because most of the players wasnt hes and we played park the bus counter football...now he has at least 12 players of hes..and we look terrible...people are saying we look better than last season...we dont look better we just have substituted an attacker for another midfielder and we look bit more secure in in our shape..but creating in past 2 games has been awful..and the football is horrendus..nothings changed at all...i told people buying de ligt and mazraoui and ugarte wont make us play better football..it has to come from the coaching on the training ground..we are just buying good players and putting them into a dead system...look at the long balls we played today...i counted about 10 that gave possession back to brighton...its not just bruno its everyone...its being taught....the way we play as a team will win games..but consistently it wont..and thats why we are battling for 5th-8th again...to many teams footballing wise are better than us...
Buying good players is never a bad thing. The manager is replaceable.
29:22
Rhino
Garnacho is only on the beach rn because he didn’t play in pre-season, as soon as the manager believes he’s ready to start, he will.
Amad is only playing because the club want him to sign a new deal
Yes, he was bad 1st half, and he’ll probably get dropped for that but how many players (Garnacho, Rashford and Bruno) play shit for so many games in a row and not get dropped, he needs to be allowed a bad game once in a while so he can cement his place and be relaxed in his play, otherwise he’s gonna be too tense and won’t perform, players like him and Sancho need faith in them to perform
Like Neil Warnock said, in 2011 he was gona play Adel Taraabt in every game, no matter how shit he was because he was the player who would get them promoted… Amad and Sancho are that calibre, they can win you a game with or without G/A… Rashford and Bruno can’t, their only use is G/A
(If used right, Sancho and Amad can get G/A btw)
I’m not necessarily agreeing with the statement that ten hag doesn’t rate Amad, I’m just tryna understand the points of view.
Yh idk what rhino was trying to argue
Same old United, why are ppl surprised, said 2 seasons ago, ten hag is not it. These teams and coaching are getting better!!
United fans will be living in the shadows of Man City for the next 50 years 😂 HOLD DATTTTTTTT!!!!
Why's Rhino going after Amad? Isn't this the same guy who defends Hojlund for his shit performances all of last season because "Give him a chance, he's young, he's not getting chances" but wants to attack Amad for a poor half but for Hojlund man was fighting the mandam like Rants and Trapz defending that scrub. Just because he's his favourite have the same energy. The only reason Amad is in the team because Wilcox wants him to play but this fraud wants to play Garnacho. If it wasn't for Wilcox Amad wouldn't had got game time near the end of last season. This guy is waffling he will be on defense when Hojlund has another stinker of a season
Adam’s ball knowledge and analysis is top tier 👏🏽 💯
sometimes. he has agendas now.
Obviously I come from outside of your everyday watcher/subscriber/member of the panel.
Oiii, you are all or majority of you subjective with players, you definitely have favorites and don't judge objective.
That guy Rhino was right. And then the other one as well. Amad and Mainoo did have a horrendous game, why can't they say that without some stupid member of the panel coming with 'Yeeah, but Rashford too!!'
Yeah, Rashford was shit also, so?
Yesterday, Amad did what Garnacho does a lot of times. I heard you before "This Garnacho guy plays shit all game, comes with a goal and they all praise him", member of this panel said this in the past about Garnacho.
Now, that Amad does it, everyone is silent.
At least be consistent and objective.
That Rhino guy was saying how it is and suddenly the holy defence was quick to saying him he was wrong.
If someone has to say something negative (and true) about Sancho, they have to say something like "Obviously, I like Sancho but I think he'll have to go", or "Obviously Sancho is my favorite but he has to go", otherwise he would be crucified by this stupid panel.
Do you realise the lack of democracy here? The fear on some of these guys to be objective with their opinions.
They said rhino was wrong because he said ten hag rates amad which isn’t true and if you genuinely believe that then in the politest way possible you’re just wrong
@@ayaanlatif2296 Mate, there are lot of things that can be said.
My point is, this panel is not objective.
Imagine, just imagine the disallowed goal when the ball touched Zirkzee's knee.
Imagine the reaction this panel would have if that was Rashford, or Garnacho, or Mctominay. They would yell for 3 hours at lacking football IQ and so on.
When someone is shit, they should have the liberty of saying it. They don't, a lot of them are afraid of backlash. A lot of them are just muppets perpetuating the same pre-installed opinions.
They should try to invite sometime someone from outside of their circle to see how deep in their cult they are.
Invite Flex for example.
EDIT: Whatever happens, this group will always need someone to hate and someone to compare. We could be champions with a treble, do you trust me when I say, they will cry about some player that he's not good enough and another one should play? 100%
Not September yet and its crisis emergency meetings settings 😅😅😢😂
Shout out to football people on this panel. You know who you are. Keeping us sane with clear, concise breakdown and wordsmith retort. ✊🏾
It's lonely at the top, I heard 😮...?!!!
Lets all laugh at united. Hey sayeed where's that swagger and smile from last week.....😂😂😂😂man actually thought united were gonna have a good season with a clown side and a clown manager....united is a circus
How ten hag wants Amad out when he is literally playing Amad over his boy Antony. Amad earned that spot. These okes kill me.😂
The game changed the moment we took off Bruno and they brought in Baleba ! At the end they wanted the win and you can see it with there subs all attacking players and pinned us down ! It was just matter of time for them to score
Ahhh my favourite time of the week. It's fast forward the Americans when speaking video 😊
Liverpool are beating united
I thought this wasn’t an Emergency Meeting😂😂😂
We missed Eriksen pulling the strings in midfield
People go on like he’s a soccer aid player. He can do a job for 15-20mins passing the ball around I’m sure
Year 3 of ten Hag you know..
@@G-fd5ug load of crap. He played with case in preseason for nearly full game. He played for Denmark the same way
@@G-fd5ugthat’s a soccer aid player 20-10 min ten hag football could literally kill the man😊
@@G-fd5ugthe problem is he's a 10. He was never a DM. He should never be defending.
This combined with the open midfield makes him look worse.
Sell Rashford, Bruno, mcssuce, Maguire, shaw cus those represent agony and misery that we witnessed in the last 10 years
How on earth can Adam say the manager is falling out with Amad and by design? That's totally made up rubbish. He's been picking Amad to start all the games. So if he gets subbed (like any other player can be), that now means the manager is falling out with him? Nonsense! Its just football. Dont create stories that are not true. If he didnt like Amad he just wouldn't pick him and instead play Rashford, Garnacho or Antony as wide's forwards. Now, im not a fan of Ten Hag, but i call things fair, dont make up narratives
Ugarte wont do anything cos this silly manager wont play him! It doesnt matter if we got the best ball playing midfielder because this doughnut of a keeper will keep lumping it up front n give the ball away!
Awesome Quality Passionate Man United Chat
The REAL question is... if Ten Hag got beaten by a 31 year old, can he get beaten by a 13 year old ? I think he will get beaten...
United fans easy to buy propaganda
There is not enough power or energy in this team
I thought this game was pretty good, should have won tbf. First half pressing was strong with Mount. But i agreed about some starters and subs. Just start your best 11, come on.
Same old united is exactly what we want😂
Every time you blame the attack you can win game 1:0 ask better why you get 2 goals
Preach Traps Preach 👏🏾😭
C'mon guys... don't talk shit about the best team ever , the greatness of this team is so high, that no one can challenge United, G.O.A.T. of this world, universe and dare I say, of all the multiverse ❤.
42:41 Stop it!!, Rashford is dusted at 26. 😂😂😂 he's finished
why dont we talk about the catalogue of errors our attack made? we love to talk shit about the defence but the attack is to blame! why is it in every game when we should be dominating the game to get the goal we are the ones on the defensive foot? is the defence at fault when we cant keep the ball in midfield and apply pressure down the other end? when your defence is getting peppered youll concede goals! how does everyone think Leicester won the league? you think it was robert huth and danny simpson?lol... it was vardy, mahrez and kante! they applied pressure down the other end and were fuckin clinical!!
all of his visions based on his Ajax glory days but failed mentally tactically in united even didnt bring at half level of ajax philosopy in 3 seasons proved he need more funding than quality
He didn't do anything at Ajax in terms of football. Ajax have their own football philosophy as a club. The only reason this fraud is relevant is because of a CL run beating Madrid and Juve and then bottling the semi final. Ten Hag was lucky to have ballers compared to the others. He just another Frank De Boer but with ballers. Ten Hag was being exposed by Ruud Gullit on Dutch TV about his tactics and he got rattled by him. He exposed that 3-1-6 why before we saw this 3-1-6
It's so obvious that mainoo is a ten
He hasn't got the legs for eight
Until we accept that we will always get ran through
He needs a break
If ten hag doesn't get 5th & better football/decisions + a cup then im not willing to be ten hag in
5th😂😂😂 how the mighty have fallen, you lot fell straight through the earth and landed in another dimension 😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-yn1ww9cs1j Welcome to utds reality 🫣
14 loses last season🤔
Why is Saeed wearing a wig?
Hahahhah
Rashford has been poor because of Bruno and Mount and fans can’t even see it this is crazy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
F me is that what rashford stans are doing now. Always someone else’s fault never his
Bruno was on the pitch when he went on that purple patch 2 seasons ago can’t be blaming Bruno now
@@ayaanlatif2296 listen I don’t rate rashford. Sancho should be starting on the left but you can’t rewrite history. he scored 30+ goals when Bruno wasn’t playing up front and Mount wasn’t in the squad
@@JackMasters-w2w oh I thought you meant Bruno playing in general. Thats fair but that’s on the bum manager in charge then
@@ayaanlatif2296 it’s on All the bums left in the squad that have collectively gotten us to this point (the manager,Bruno,Mount,mctominay,Garnacho,maguire and Shaw )
@@JackMasters-w2w this bruno thing is so weird. when i ask people why we should sell bruno, they yap about ball retention when kdb has a lower passing accuracy and gives the ball away more frequently, then they talk about how we've been awful since bruno has come to united (we have like a 10% win record without bruno + 4-0 palace). Instead of going after the one world class player we have, how about we talk abt the manager's tactics and the 20+ underwhelming signings we've made since we brought bruno.
😂
We can still get third tho 🙄
Third from bottom
This is so reactionary it’s mad. I think ETH made mistakes in his subs, especially Bruno for Mctominay. But you can clearly see that ETH is developing the patterns of play and the pressing. We controlled most of that game. The manager doesn’t train Harry Maguire to leave the ball or the full black to leave his man free. Things will fall into place. Anyone going mad is just acting like a child.
Do all these & you clowns realise it took Fergie 4 years to win his 1st trophy & 7 years to win his 1st title & 25 years & won 2 champions leagues & believe me the football was awful up till Cantona arriving & the class of 92,Fergie was very lucky early in his reign.
Rename your channel to Sancho F.C
Sancho is a Manchester United player and is actually a better baller than both Rashford and Garnacho fella.
@@OCastaneda16😂 He may as well be better than both of them, ability wise but his attitude is unbecoming for a player of the club like United. The same fanbase would fume if he starts the next match and deliver disappointing performance.
@@dominrina1943 Do you know him? How do you know about his "attitude" ? Its utter nonsense. All I know is Ralf Ragnick and Edin Terzic only had great things to say about him.
You’re the type that rates passion cheerleaders like Mctominay / Maguire over pitch performance/ football ability 😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍 got it
@@StandardsFC Are you seriously defending his off field antics? 😂 , there is no iota of doubt in his abilities and it's fair to say that he is better than both the players but the very same cohort of fans are going to turn the back against him if he fails to deliver. Needless to say Ragnick and terzic are not part of United, so their praises towards him are downright futile.
So glad it’s week 2 and these frauds are back crying again already!!!! 🥹😂😂