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Комментарии • 472

  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +36

    ▶Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ 💥 USE CODE "TOMCAT15" FOR 15% OFF YOUR ORDER 💥 Until March 24th 2023.
    Thank you for watching, and I'll see you in the next one, Much Love.

    • @rexmann1984
      @rexmann1984 Год назад +1

      *J-20 Mighty Dwagon

    • @johnnyd9992
      @johnnyd9992 Год назад

      f22 VS j20

    • @numberyellow
      @numberyellow Год назад

      F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR plzkthx
      also: NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE plzkthx
      Another idea: SU-57 vs F15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx

    • @rexmann1984
      @rexmann1984 Год назад +2

      @@johnnyd9992 I think he did that one already J-20 got spanked.

    • @johnnyd9992
      @johnnyd9992 Год назад

      @@rexmann1984 shyt i missed it then

  • @benokanruzgar8863
    @benokanruzgar8863 Год назад +381

    I like these realistic scenarios more than one-on-one battles.
    Great episode.

  • @Mcree114
    @Mcree114 Год назад +115

    The F-15s and J-20s looked like musket line infantry shooting at each other with the F-16 acting as a light infantry skirmisher but all on a larger scale.

    • @brandonholmes8485
      @brandonholmes8485 Год назад +3

      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  • @SmokinDave73
    @SmokinDave73 Год назад +103

    Would you be able to do tac view again for big 'furball' missions like this one? Would love to see the grander scope of how things happened since there is a lot of fighter jets we do not see from just your POV. Thanks for the great videos!

  • @andrewrogers3067
    @andrewrogers3067 Год назад +106

    So when can we see YOU fly a J20?!
    You know we’d be down for it.

  • @7gmeister
    @7gmeister Год назад +17

    I really liked the premise of using the F-16 on the side to stalk and kill the enemy fighters.
    Kind of a sniper in the air.
    Seems to be playing to the strengths and weaknesses of the fighters used and sort of gives the US an edge seems like.
    We do have a large enough AF to do things like that.
    Also demonstrates how no matter what anyone says dogfighting is never dead.
    You never know when you’re going to have to enter into a merge with another fighter and it seems like there’s going to be a need in the foreseeable future for fourth gen fighters since dogfighting is becoming less of a priority in the designs of modern fighters.
    I can’t imagine wanting to put an F-35 into that same scenario unless you’re willing to sacrifice them in the process and given their cost and the cost of the loss of a pilot you would more likely use the stealth to keep him out of the fight rather than force the merge in that scenario

  • @pkandy2
    @pkandy2 Год назад +17

    It would be very cool if you could put up a chart with Aircraft that went into combat for each side as well as the losses.
    As always thank you for the great video!

  • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
    @Rose.Of.Hizaki Год назад +12

    **F-15: Laughs** _"I'm in danger"_

  • @ziljanvega3879
    @ziljanvega3879 Год назад +161

    Awesome that you can run bigger missions now with more units, but what happened to the carrier group? Did they prevail?

  • @PhoenixPhenom777
    @PhoenixPhenom777 Год назад +17

    J-20 vs Su-57 would be awesome

    • @dbcannon
      @dbcannon Год назад +4

      I absolutely agree 😅

  • @desperatetogetsomehoes
    @desperatetogetsomehoes Год назад +636

    Would love to see GS flying the J-20 once

    • @Maxthepro1012
      @Maxthepro1012 Год назад +15

      Yee!

    • @wolfshot114
      @wolfshot114 Год назад +9

      Me too

    • @SwingArmCity
      @SwingArmCity Год назад +6

      why? Its no dogfighter. BFM only

    • @andrewrogers3067
      @andrewrogers3067 Год назад +106

      @@SwingArmCity Is that a problem? We’ve had tons of BFM fights.

    • @thatonekull
      @thatonekull Год назад +36

      @@SwingArmCity you clearly havent seen it flying then

  • @personM4N
    @personM4N Год назад +2

    The wing bouncing and flexing at 9:52...sorry, but that level of attention to detail is top tier

  • @LancerKnight00
    @LancerKnight00 Год назад +4

    Hey, Sidewinder finally makes it back home from a mission. Last couple of missions didn't end so good.

  • @kwooshie221
    @kwooshie221 Год назад +8

    I've been waiting for the J-20 for a while now

  • @EmoBirb
    @EmoBirb Год назад +15

    I hope your planning to do a Su-57 vs J-20 match in the future, preferably with you in the Su-57 ^^

  • @23rdGSF
    @23rdGSF Год назад +4

    Epic battle there mate. Look forward to seeing more of these battle scenarios.

  • @charleybell8203
    @charleybell8203 Год назад +16

    With the multi threading it'd be nice to see some more complex SEAD missions

    • @Eis_
      @Eis_ Год назад +1

      A blown SEAD operation would be fun. Basically just trying to take down as much as they can while also trying to escape fighters and SAMs.

  • @grumpyguardsman6161
    @grumpyguardsman6161 Год назад +16

    Would love to see some tacview for these larger fights at the end too.

  • @ExitEnergie
    @ExitEnergie Год назад +15

    Hey, big Fan of your content. Especially the dogfights. The new cinematic features you implemented are the cherry on top. With these bigger missions, is it possible that you would do one with older, WW2-Era planes? As much as I can enjoy modern fighter jet, I think that these older air battles had something chivalric. So if you would be interested in this idea, I would gladly watch it.
    Nevertheless thank you for you enthusiasm of planes and your videos. Keep it up.

  • @_SGR_
    @_SGR_ Год назад +6

    You should try to make a bvr fight between a F35 and a J20, I think that could be a real life scenario

  • @mustafaarsalan4951
    @mustafaarsalan4951 Год назад +15

    I'm early today so I just wanted to say that regardless of political affiliation I love seeing GS fly new jets and as a wanna be aerosnautical engineer it warms my heart seeing so many different well made machines in combat.

  • @rickyquinteros7100
    @rickyquinteros7100 Год назад +2

    0:28 Okay that’s a pretty scary sound just hearing multiple sonic booms

  • @kentchristen6048
    @kentchristen6048 Год назад +43

    As a HVAA crewmember who's flown at Nellis during large force exercises, the words "Wall of Eagles" never engenders confidence.
    Every time we hear 'Wall of Eagles," we know at least one HVAA asset will probably die during the next go.

    • @greenmagic8ball198
      @greenmagic8ball198 Год назад +1

      What is HVAA

    • @caseypayne5138
      @caseypayne5138 Год назад +1

      @@greenmagic8ball198 High Value Airborne Asset -- like a J-20 or other 5th gen fighter

    • @CasualEmily
      @CasualEmily Год назад +9

      ​@@caseypayne5138 I thought HVAA are Tankers and AWACS?

    • @kentchristen6048
      @kentchristen6048 Год назад +6

      @@greenmagic8ball198 High Value Airborne Asset.
      Airborne Without A Clue (AWACS), JSTARS, Rivet Joint, etc.

    • @kentchristen6048
      @kentchristen6048 Год назад +4

      @@caseypayne5138 yeah, no, that’s not right. Fighters are not HVAA

  • @pedrofaberllecorrea6945
    @pedrofaberllecorrea6945 Год назад +12

    You should try the same scenario but with a F-22 flying low to see if the J's can detect you

  • @shahriarkhan1220
    @shahriarkhan1220 Год назад +16

    Losing that first wave of J20 so easy and so fast is kind of frustrating

    • @arieldario3849
      @arieldario3849 Год назад +12

      Yeah agree. Doesnt have any sense...

    • @jameshughes6078
      @jameshughes6078 Год назад

      Sounds like the f15s basically kamikazed themselves to do it though

    • @yulfine1688
      @yulfine1688 Год назад +1

      @@arieldario3849 j20s are reduced visibility not true stealth...they're also nothing special for a 5th gen fighter..

  • @fletcherjohnson539
    @fletcherjohnson539 Год назад +2

    tomcat vs j-20 would be fire, you flying the tomcat of course

  • @Crit.Happens
    @Crit.Happens Год назад +2

    "We're gunna have to make it work" Proceeds to win against gen 5s with gen 4s. Next you're gunna see him bring a squadron of mustangs against a flight of gen 6s and win.

  • @CivisMilitarum
    @CivisMilitarum Год назад +1

    Lol Mighty Dragon reminds me of the scene in Tropic Thunder "This is Flaming Dragon..." 😂

  • @PhillipChalabi
    @PhillipChalabi Год назад +1

    Proof that the high low mix can still work against stealth enemies. Much more costly, but still viable for at least a few battles.

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 Год назад

    Nice mixed bag. The ground crew is gonna be busy decorating your fuselage.

  • @mrmaybe819
    @mrmaybe819 Год назад +4

    I love you man you got me into dcs and now i finally bought the F/A-18 a few days ago

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +4

      Much love brother glad you’ve joined the DCS community, always nice to get new
      guys in here.

    • @alargecookie
      @alargecookie Год назад +3

      Gotta love that Hornet Howl

    • @mrmaybe819
      @mrmaybe819 Год назад

      @@GrowlingSidewinder forgot to ask you a question before but how do you look around you so easily because when I am in a dog fight for example I use my left hand for looking around and my right hand for my joystick but I am right handed so it is quite uncomfortable

    • @daveh.354
      @daveh.354 Год назад +1

      @@mrmaybe819 Look up the TrackIR 5. Or other head trackers.

    • @mrmaybe819
      @mrmaybe819 Год назад

      @@daveh.354isn’t that quite annoying to use because you have to move your head like 90 degrees but you still need to see the screen

  • @devonsmith1995
    @devonsmith1995 Год назад +1

    Last j-15 *cobra to get not hit the water*: 😮‍💨 “made it”
    F-16: “This is the missile guidance system “

  • @CaptKak1954
    @CaptKak1954 Год назад +6

    Can you do the J-20 vs the Mirage 2000 please? It would be so cool.

  • @17missing
    @17missing Год назад +4

    Was I the only one expecting GS to get hit when he said “if his missile hasn’t hit me by now it’s not gonna hit me.”? 😅

    • @noseyparker8130
      @noseyparker8130 Год назад +2

      GS: Any expression of relief.
      DCS: ssSSSHHHHHH.....BOOM!!!

  • @georgedurrant8419
    @georgedurrant8419 Год назад +3

    Love these videos! Would love to see the number of losses of each side the end

  • @paulybassman7311
    @paulybassman7311 Год назад +3

    Ever wonder about the effectiveness of chaff and flare whilst at super low altitude ( if the jet fires c+f downwards?) As apposed to a jet that has stuff firing atop the Fuselage. ⬆️✅️⤵️❌️

  • @whalehands
    @whalehands Год назад +1

    Visually, watching the dogfight above, this was one of the coolest videos yet

  • @QAnswer
    @QAnswer Год назад +1

    I hope we can see F-16V with AIM120D in the future, this will make pretty good Taiwan Crisis Campaign.

  • @FormerMushroom
    @FormerMushroom Год назад +9

    Me - “no way GS bags a j-20 in an f-16”
    GS - “12:02

    • @Ogg13tube
      @Ogg13tube Год назад

      I live in Taiwan, lol, so if GS can come train the local pilots, that'd be great.

  • @moonage_
    @moonage_ Год назад +3

    Love that we're getting larger-scale content with this multi-threading thing

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan4566 Год назад +1

    Very enjoyable mission - not 100% aware of everything the whole time...
    ...as happens!

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro Год назад +1

    When that Battlefield theme kicks in!

  • @anubhabpaul3654
    @anubhabpaul3654 Год назад

    Yeah!! Another video. Thanks GS❤️

  • @debdulalsenapati1391
    @debdulalsenapati1391 Год назад

    You got yourself a Xmas Festive food plate full of different varieties to food ...... J20, J15,J11 😃😃😃 All thanks to the F15s clearing your way

  • @jamesfortner5323
    @jamesfortner5323 Год назад +4

    I’m not really sure why I like watching your videos. I don’t play dcs or really anything. But I enjoy watching all the videos especially the WWII planes

  • @lordhickory3322
    @lordhickory3322 Год назад +3

    So if I do TOMCAT100 in the store do I get the stuff for free?
    Btw, I love that "tension theme" that always plays when the danger / opponent is being shown (e.g around 1:45 this video). What is it actually called?

  • @slimycheerio4026
    @slimycheerio4026 Год назад +1

    Love the videos, would really love to see p39 il2 Gb gamplay. Keep up the good work❤

  • @eircsun7024
    @eircsun7024 Год назад +5

    The J-20 has over the horizon attack and stealth capabilities,why is it fighting so close to the F-16?

    • @朱古力-x8n
      @朱古力-x8n Год назад +1

      they are coping as always 🤡

    • @smugreptile6695
      @smugreptile6695 Год назад +1

      Because it was previously engaged with a bunch of 15's. Sidewinder's whole plan was to use the 15's above him as a distraction to get in close enough to get a couple shots off. He was playing off the other pilots being to focused on other aircraft to pay him enough mind. And it worked. The plane can only do so much for you.

    • @yulfine1688
      @yulfine1688 Год назад +1

      its not real stealth...its reduced visibility for radar..

  • @alanOHALAN
    @alanOHALAN Год назад +1

    In real world exercise, both American and Chinese stealth fighters were able to have 0 loses while shooting down multiple traditional jets.

  • @MichaelPrince1954
    @MichaelPrince1954 10 месяцев назад

    I never see you flying the j20 that would be a great video to see.

  • @avalanpenta6944
    @avalanpenta6944 Год назад

    Id love to see some long range groundstrike like with the agm 154 or SLAMs, would be very interesting

  • @somearms2577
    @somearms2577 Год назад +1

    You should make a video like 2(or 3) SU-25's vs a propellor plane of your choice, it might get interesting

  • @jnlcn6
    @jnlcn6 10 месяцев назад

    Great video, but for a more realisitc and fun case, can you do a fight where both sides don't know the exact model of enemy's aircraft?

  • @moorenatc8057
    @moorenatc8057 Год назад +3

    You should do some of the "shittier jets" versus each other (i.e. Su-25T Frogfoot vs. A-4E Skyhawk or something like that)

  • @bobanobahoba1642
    @bobanobahoba1642 Год назад +2

    Love the bigger scale of the fights

  • @jackwolfskin1054
    @jackwolfskin1054 Год назад +1

    and you won without even using differential thrust !!! Amazing!!! 🙂

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Год назад

    And so a Pyrrhic victory to start the day with. You got lucky in your Viper, Growling.
    You should run this again with F-22s as the tip of the spear.

  • @crackone2three
    @crackone2three Год назад

    Realy enjoy this Kind of Videos but still my favorite are the Propeller WW2 Aircraft Fights, less Electronis and Bieping :D

  • @glenncooper3524
    @glenncooper3524 Год назад +2

    OK really cool but fill us in on the final score and navy outcome.

  • @c.shannon3914
    @c.shannon3914 Год назад +8

    Always a good thing when GS drops a new video. Good job bagging a J20 😂😢

  • @koffeekorner4207
    @koffeekorner4207 Год назад

    The Cons is Angel's 25 to 40. When I play MSFS it starts at Angel's 28.

  • @hubble37
    @hubble37 7 месяцев назад

    A J-20 and two J-15s is a very good day in the office!

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 Год назад +3

    Three airframes down. Nice victory.

    • @muzaharsherazi8419
      @muzaharsherazi8419 Год назад

      In reality not even 1 will be down before J20 hit him

    • @tangoprime
      @tangoprime Год назад

      @@muzaharsherazi8419 [citation needed]

  • @PhoenixPhenom777
    @PhoenixPhenom777 Год назад +8

    We need more J-20

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday7149 Год назад +1

    Everything is extremely lethal...... on paper.

  • @RobertHopkinsArt
    @RobertHopkinsArt Год назад +1

    All right. Enough is enough. I’ll buy the F16 this week. 😎

  • @jsshea3847
    @jsshea3847 Год назад +2

    GS you should post download links to the missions/ mods you use to create these videos. Would love to try to scenarios then before/ after the videos.

  • @daveware4117
    @daveware4117 Год назад

    It would be cool for GS to do a video with long shot as his wingman aginst multipul planes

  • @kuryakin2483
    @kuryakin2483 Год назад

    Doug Mastering those guys in the Viper. Love it.

  • @UbiquitousDIY
    @UbiquitousDIY Год назад

    Here's a challenge. 1 v 1 bvr, potentially merge and dogfight. Can't go below 40k ft though.

  • @radiomanned
    @radiomanned Год назад

    He made some shark-fin soup out of those J-15s.

  • @TymaDem
    @TymaDem Год назад +2

    Would love to see F-35 vs J-20

  • @tzeffsmainchannel
    @tzeffsmainchannel Год назад

    HA! What's missing on this channel is *NOCTURNAL AIR-COMBAT! Try THAT!* You'll have a hard time trying to see where your bogey is pointing its nose!!
    Many air skirmishes happen during night - Desert Storm and a few others!

  • @janneskyraider485
    @janneskyraider485 Год назад +1

    Nice fight need more j20.
    Greetings from Germany

  • @CentralStateMower
    @CentralStateMower Год назад +1

    I know you said some F-15's went down. Just wondering how many were lost...

  • @steve390gold
    @steve390gold Год назад

    What no TacView? Great vid!!

  • @mistyken
    @mistyken Год назад +1

    so the screen turns black when g-LOC hit? pretty cool

  • @ilia0wolfskin
    @ilia0wolfskin Год назад

    My man here putting down a low key nowrouz sale.

  • @djpuggs7287
    @djpuggs7287 Год назад

    ello I have a question, Do you use a vr headset or trackIR?
    Great video by the way❤

  • @AhmedIlyas
    @AhmedIlyas Год назад

    lovely j15 arrive when entire j20 fleet is gone. lol. it should be other way around j15 going in first and trying to close in with f15 whiel j20 sneaking closer for PL15 shots from ranges keeping f15 under pressure.

  • @sessions1617
    @sessions1617 Год назад

    That last kill was bitchin.⚡️⚡️

  • @u4ia_fubar_75
    @u4ia_fubar_75 Год назад

    Have you ever reenacted the fight between the 2 TomCats v 2 Floggers? I was watching the video for it the other day.🤟

  • @adamtheninjasmith2985
    @adamtheninjasmith2985 Год назад

    It's so awesome you did this video. I previously commented on a modern redesign of the F-16 with a focus on dogfighting and then you just reiterated how good it still is in dcs anyways💪👍

  • @davidfognini8526
    @davidfognini8526 6 месяцев назад +1

    J20 are much better than any USA fighters TODAY 😢

  • @genkideguire
    @genkideguire Год назад +1

    It's easy for the F-2 to lock on to a J-20 and chase it out of Japanese airspace. So F16 shouldn't have a problem.

  • @paulybassman7311
    @paulybassman7311 Год назад

    Awesome dude! J20 vs Eurofighter?😉🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @JohnDoe-vr6yw
    @JohnDoe-vr6yw Год назад +3

    Great fight ! Would have loved to see tacview debrief on that one.

  • @heatblast876
    @heatblast876 Год назад

    Growling sidewinder can you do the BVR match to dogfight between 1 SU57 vs 3 Euro fighter jet with AWACS.

  • @onurguardian9004
    @onurguardian9004 Год назад

    Whats the ending scene soundtrack? is it a kind of battlefield 1942 soundtrack or? do we have a link for it i wish i listen it an hour long :)

  • @zeroomicron4821
    @zeroomicron4821 Год назад

    Where can you get some of the advanced missiles? Like the hypersonic missiles for example I have seen GS use in other videos?

  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue Год назад +6

    How can J-20s lose to F-15s?
    J-20 should have good stealth, yes we've all heard of the canard argument
    but the canards are edge aligned to other control surfaces, which means they present no additional angles of detection.
    So the J-20 should be very hard to track by the AMRAAMs.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +4

      If the F-15s can jam the j20s, they can bring them in close enough to maybe see them on radar/negate their stealth/engage them.

    • @obsidianstatue
      @obsidianstatue Год назад

      @@GrowlingSidewinder ah, thanks for the explanation.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 Год назад

      @@GrowlingSidewinder as far as we know the PL15 has home on jam ability.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад

      @@hughmungus2760 home on jam guidance is inefficient and can be easily defeated.

  • @anotherHelldiver
    @anotherHelldiver Год назад

    You said that the F-15 jammers were helping.
    Is that a new thing with the EX variant,or have I just not heard about it much?

  • @plex2109
    @plex2109 Год назад +1

    You should do an Rafael vs J-20 dogfight

  • @FrostByte112
    @FrostByte112 Год назад

    Please, this was last Thursday at LAX.

  • @ingoos
    @ingoos Год назад

    Rule #1 remain calm, don't panic! Rule #2 fast learn rule #1

  • @david1234lee
    @david1234lee Год назад

    An early summer dream talk !

  • @miguelangelback2047
    @miguelangelback2047 Год назад

    F-16 Fighting Falcon! - LETHAL WEAPON!

  • @chrisdiehl5903
    @chrisdiehl5903 Год назад +2

    Wondering what the ME 163 with today's technology would be like against either of these. Better turning, plus better speed, durability, ect. Would like to see possible fight between them all.

    • @chukuma4760
      @chukuma4760 Год назад

      No better speed or durability in the 163 against any of these, and probably not even any better turning

    • @chrisdiehl5903
      @chrisdiehl5903 Год назад

      @@chukuma4760 explain; when the technology then VS. now has jumped 10 fold.

    • @chukuma4760
      @chukuma4760 Год назад

      @@chrisdiehl5903 wouldn't that mean stuff now is better? (My point)

  • @kendrellgriffin3592
    @kendrellgriffin3592 Год назад

    I was wondering if you could do an interesting fight between a F-15 VS J-20 ( you flying the F-15)

  • @codychild2665
    @codychild2665 Год назад

    GS in da house! Wondering what the final jets that were killed? Did all the Eagles get splashed?

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +1

      most of them yes, but they did kill the J-20s

    • @codychild2665
      @codychild2665 Год назад

      @@GrowlingSidewinder thanks, man. Keep up the good work.