I would like to see you expand on the concept of a "base", because it's a little bit nebulous. To me, in the "Is my group safe?" heuristic, a base is just a special sub-case of having eye space, specifically eye space that's orientated towards the edge of the board. Your later analyses make it clear that not all bases are equal either. When is a base considered "safe enough", and when is the threat of an invasion significant enough to diminish the safety of that group? Is the concept of a "base" even valuable in modern AI-dominated Go? Would love to see a video on this.
I think a video exploring the concept of a "base" would be fantastic! I'd also be really interested in seeing another video that covers shapes and techniques that lead to stable groups with two eyes.
@idleist I agree. Often see instructors make a two space jump on 3rd line and matter-of-factly say "black makes a base" and proceeds on like we know exactly what they mean
That was a great video, thank you! You’re very clear and you talked about the concept in a really efficient way - so I might actually remember it properly!
This guy here is the only tutor on your channel that I could listen to (other than the vadim guy) and I haven't bought any of your courses because of that. The others tutors have lets say "idiosyncrasies" that make them hard to listen to. But this guy here is good.
Great video. Thanks for the tips. Btw after watching the first 10 secs, want to say blink twice if you're being held hostage and are being forced to say these things against your will.
For the curious, the first game introduced is on move 35, black has played 18, and white 17 stones, no captures. In very generalized terms, this means the mid-game begins when you've about played four stones to each corner, or two to each corner and each side, respectively.
Thank you for the great video. It was very informative and easy to understand! I'd like to suggest using AI technology that allows someone reading text to appear as if they’re looking directly at the camera. This would make an already excellent video even better.
This is a very.. unrelated question, but what are the size of these stones? They look much bigger than the "standard" 22mm that I have seen. I like the look of them!
From an earlier comment, though not sure you'll get my tag: can @GoMagic speak to the diameter of these stones at all? Are they 22mm, which I've read to be "standard"?
I am curious if you could talk more about the idea of “this group has a clear line to the middle” … I am probably 99 kyu and play daily but I have no mind for strategy, still trying to understand the language of playing effectively.
If I understand correctly, at this stage of the game the middle acts like a lifeline, because it is so big and open, and every stone you play can add four liberties against the one your opponent can subtract, it should be usually be possible to guarantee whatever stones have retreated that way can make life, but at the tradeoff of controlling territory less efficiently to do so. If a group loses a clear line to the middle, that lifeline option is gone, and the group must live or die right where it is
Maybe it's more interesting to talk about leading up to and extending from interesting points in the middle game. Of course you're in the middle game. 4:35 What was interesting was the second line move. Why is that powerful in reducing black's base? What continuations will imply black is struggling and how did Black respond?
Really nice content, and get-up. The only thing I would constructively criticize is the fact, that I personally find it irritating when Chris switches between looking into the cam and slightly to the side (assuming the text is written there). Rehearsing the text more or some jump cuts in between could help with that. But that's nitpicking at a really high level (maybe even 5 dan worthy nitpicking, haha).
Hi, according to my knowledge there is no established consensus on calling one direction or side of the board as south. On the other hand, there is a convention that on the maps south is the bottom. So it is strange, when you call the top direction as south. This is good content, for me a little bit low level, but still a good recap. You have a lot of very simple content. I understand, you want to cover all strenght group. What I would suggest to group your videos according to this, or label them like this, or even put into the title, what is the intended strength of the audience.
Thanks for the video. Your explanation was well presented. I really like your decor as well. If you're OK with some constructive criticism, I recommend pre-viewing a couple of sentences to yourself before each clip starts, then make "eye contact" with the camera when you say it. The editor can edit out when you're reading the lines to yourself, and it'll end up looking like you have the whole script memorized. It was very distracting to see you looking up to your right to read off your script. I think the reading also suppressed your excitement/energy. As soon as you said anything off script, I could see your energy coming out, then drain as soon as you started reading again. Thank you for the video. Its concepts are very similar to lessons I've learned from other dan level instructors as well, such as shygost. Thank you again, go magic, for this video, I love to learn about middle game stuff. It's where I, and I'm sure many others, need the most work. I'd like to see more of Christopher Sagner 5d in the future.
It's a little bit unusual. You have a magnificent beginning from start to 4:27 and then you just jump from one game to another. For every game, you show only short time periods, which are not enought for me. There really were no more interesting moments in Cho Chikuns chuban?
Thank you for the feedback! We wanted to keep the video dynamic. But we’ll keep this in mind for future videos and try to linger on those instructive moments a bit more. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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What a quality entrance, this is a proper class
This was a fantastic video.
Christopher's voice is soothing and yet not boring. I could definitely watch much more from him.
I would like to see you expand on the concept of a "base", because it's a little bit nebulous. To me, in the "Is my group safe?" heuristic, a base is just a special sub-case of having eye space, specifically eye space that's orientated towards the edge of the board. Your later analyses make it clear that not all bases are equal either. When is a base considered "safe enough", and when is the threat of an invasion significant enough to diminish the safety of that group? Is the concept of a "base" even valuable in modern AI-dominated Go? Would love to see a video on this.
I think a video exploring the concept of a "base" would be fantastic! I'd also be really interested in seeing another video that covers shapes and techniques that lead to stable groups with two eyes.
Thank you for the suggestion, and stay tuned; we may explore this topic in a future video! 😊
@idleist I agree. Often see instructors make a two space jump on 3rd line and matter-of-factly say "black makes a base" and proceeds on like we know exactly what they mean
He’s not expanding because nearly every go source for beginners will answer exactly these questions
Always happy to have a new host
Cool video. I love the graphic animations on the board❤
Thank you so much! 😊
Yo, chris, it's jason. You killed it, man. Great video!
Who are you jason
@myboy_ I've known Chris for approximately 6 years irl. Great guy.
Hey Chris! That was so epic. Love the whole motif and presentation. It was so polished and professional. Well done!
Thank you so much! We're really glad you enjoyed it! 😊
Beautiful Goban, thx for the lesson 🙏🏽
That was a great video, thank you! You’re very clear and you talked about the concept in a really efficient way - so I might actually remember it properly!
Thank you! 😊
This helps a lot! Very clear explanations and useful examples. The graphics were really well done as well!
It’s great to know the explanations and examples clicked for you 👍
This guy here is the only tutor on your channel that I could listen to (other than the vadim guy) and I haven't bought any of your courses because of that. The others tutors have lets say "idiosyncrasies" that make them hard to listen to. But this guy here is good.
I appreciate the compliment! :D
Great content and format! Chris' explanations are always clear and interesting!
We're thrilled you enjoyed it. 🤗
I first became aware of the three points of this list from Yilun Yang at a workshop in 1997.
I was at a YY workshop back then too! I remember “Do you have problems?” “fix them!”
@@cjhoffmn There is a very good chance we were at the same workshop once. I used to attend up to three Yang Workshops in a year.
Wow, that’s awesome! Yilun Yang is such a respected teacher.
Thanks!
😊
Awesome video, he presented the info very well in an understandable way
Great lesson, thanks Chris!
Great video. Thanks for the tips. Btw after watching the first 10 secs, want to say blink twice if you're being held hostage and are being forced to say these things against your will.
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wooo keep it up 🎉🎉
This was great!
Thanks!
Great Stuff! I would like to see more of it. For example, explain a certain move and where are the benefits compared to another move.
Thank you! 😊 We’ll definitely consider adding more of that kind of analysis in future videos.
Great video.
Oh nice, welcome, Chris! :)
For the curious, the first game introduced is on move 35, black has played 18, and white 17 stones, no captures. In very generalized terms, this means the mid-game begins when you've about played four stones to each corner, or two to each corner and each side, respectively.
Amazing content
😊
Great video! I think there's a black stone missing on the board in the 2nd example :)
4:01 - holly cow I thought about this move 😲 But wasn't sure whether playing that fast at second line is a good idea.
Thank you for the great video. It was very informative and easy to understand! I'd like to suggest using AI technology that allows someone reading text to appear as if they’re looking directly at the camera. This would make an already excellent video even better.
Thanks 👍
Nice vid...
please keep going
We will!
this reminds me of shyghost's list too
They have something in common 😜
When will the course available on your site?
We hope to release the course in 1-2 months! Stay tuned 😉
@@GoMagic can you extend my sub till then?
@Krisztián-y7v You can extend it yourself here: gomagic.org/premium/
@ I still have ~70 day magic left, but don't want to miss this one :)
@Krisztián-y7v we'll try to make it as soon as we can 👍
What stones are those?
Slate and shell 10 mm
This is a very.. unrelated question, but what are the size of these stones? They look much bigger than the "standard" 22mm that I have seen. I like the look of them!
i know the thickness is 10mm or 10.5. I think diameter size....not sure. They're Japanese slate and shell.
@@iamwishfordan Can @GoMagic speak to the diameter at all?
Size 36
Thank you
From an earlier comment, though not sure you'll get my tag: can @GoMagic speak to the diameter of these stones at all? Are they 22mm, which I've read to be "standard"?
they should be standard or very close to it, maybe .5 mm larger if at all
Hi. They are.
I am curious if you could talk more about the idea of “this group has a clear line to the middle” … I am probably 99 kyu and play daily but I have no mind for strategy, still trying to understand the language of playing effectively.
If I understand correctly, at this stage of the game the middle acts like a lifeline, because it is so big and open, and every stone you play can add four liberties against the one your opponent can subtract, it should be usually be possible to guarantee whatever stones have retreated that way can make life, but at the tradeoff of controlling territory less efficiently to do so.
If a group loses a clear line to the middle, that lifeline option is gone, and the group must live or die right where it is
@@ambion19yes! Exactly this!!
Maybe it's more interesting to talk about leading up to and extending from interesting points in the middle game. Of course you're in the middle game. 4:35 What was interesting was the second line move. Why is that powerful in reducing black's base? What continuations will imply black is struggling and how did Black respond?
Thanks for the idea-exploring these moments more deeply would make for a great video topic! We'll think about it.
Go!
i always forget to deffend my self and go direct to big moves. so now i'll remember, hope. jajajajaj
Really nice content, and get-up. The only thing I would constructively criticize is the fact, that I personally find it irritating when Chris switches between looking into the cam and slightly to the side (assuming the text is written there). Rehearsing the text more or some jump cuts in between could help with that. But that's nitpicking at a really high level (maybe even 5 dan worthy nitpicking, haha).
Thank you for the kind words and thoughtful feedback! 😊
5-dan worthy nitpicking is 👍 - constructive critiques like yours are what help us improve!
Clossi approach is also useful to keep in mind. Similar to advice given is this video. Great examples though, thanks!
Fun fact: the clossi approach is derived from the list! Clossi did a live stream with shygost where they talk about that :)
It’s great to know you enjoyed the video.
It took me a while but is this Raven from Shyghost's channel?
Yes it is :)
@@iamwishfordan Bro I was about to call plagiarism
@@alexweavers5599 xD
hehe
Hi,
according to my knowledge there is no established consensus on calling one direction or side of the board as south. On the other hand, there is a convention that on the maps south is the bottom. So it is strange, when you call the top direction as south.
This is good content, for me a little bit low level, but still a good recap. You have a lot of very simple content. I understand, you want to cover all strenght group. What I would suggest to group your videos according to this, or label them like this, or even put into the title, what is the intended strength of the audience.
During the video edit, we rotated the picture, which accidentally put the south on top-sorry for the confusion there! 😅
@@GoMagic :)
Thanks for the video. Your explanation was well presented. I really like your decor as well.
If you're OK with some constructive criticism, I recommend pre-viewing a couple of sentences to yourself before each clip starts, then make "eye contact" with the camera when you say it. The editor can edit out when you're reading the lines to yourself, and it'll end up looking like you have the whole script memorized. It was very distracting to see you looking up to your right to read off your script. I think the reading also suppressed your excitement/energy. As soon as you said anything off script, I could see your energy coming out, then drain as soon as you started reading again.
Thank you for the video. Its concepts are very similar to lessons I've learned from other dan level instructors as well, such as shygost.
Thank you again, go magic, for this video, I love to learn about middle game stuff. It's where I, and I'm sure many others, need the most work. I'd like to see more of Christopher Sagner 5d in the future.
Thank you so much for the thoughtful feedback and kind words-it really means a lot!
TIL Michael Scott retired to play Go
It's a little bit unusual. You have a magnificent beginning from start to 4:27 and then you just jump from one game to another. For every game, you show only short time periods, which are not enought for me. There really were no more interesting moments in Cho Chikuns chuban?
Thank you for the feedback! We wanted to keep the video dynamic. But we’ll keep this in mind for future videos and try to linger on those instructive moments a bit more. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Why not use ELO rating
Well, many players find the kyu/dan ranking system more comfortable and intuitive.
@GoMagic most videos I see 9d 9d 9d 9d everyone is 9d
Well, in this case, Chris should be able to make a very pleasant difference with his 5d 😄
very nice