My expectations were low for 8 Gen 3, only expecting an incremental improvement, a squeezing toothpaste, as I was excited for Oryon-powered 8 Gen 4. But goddamn, Qualcomm. god fkn damn.
Qualcomm is using all they have about the arm public core architecture on the 8 gen 3 as it would be no use when their 8 gen 4 with their own architecture comes out
Hello Engineers you have created great content so far but due to the language barrier a lot of people can not access the content of your videos your channel has a huge untapped potential.
Yunfei(Geekerwan's English channel host)was in the US when making this video so the English version can't be released at the first time just wait a few days,he's about to return to China
@@user-vl1yd1hs3k that is true and I am using that. I don't understand Chinese/mandrin. But if the content was in English it would be easier to understand especially the technical stuff.
I'm a Snapdragon 870 user yet, 8 Gen 3 seems to be a good chip, but now I'll wait for Oryon-based chips to upgrade. I really hope Qualcomm bring Oryon cores to a possible 7+ Gen 4, that's the one I would upgrade for.
Real usage its worst than 8gen2. :) 8gen3 its 8gen2 oc, with 3nm+ about 20% better but -40% efficient. Thats why 8gen2 the best. Check power consumption. 😊
@@furieux6742they use newer core designs tho and they added a core to cluster1 while taking one away from the efficiency cores the sd 8 gen 3 performs better than the sd 8 gen 2 but at peak the sd 8 gen 2 can't even reach the power consumption is way higher (similar story with a17)
Apple's MT and GPU leads are gone, all they retain is single core and the margin is narrowing substantially. I wonder if they can ever separate themselves from the pack again, or this is like the Zen moment of CPU convergence where AMD and Intel have just stuck close since.
Imagine this SOC bad boy in a gaming phone like red magic (9) with the great cooling solution. Great work Qualcomm. As an iPhone 15 Pro Max (gaming) user I'm looking forward to the next Apple SOC with great cooling :)
I'll skip the gen 3 and will upgrade to the gen 4. By 2024 the 3nm process is mature enough to bring significant improvements to all 2025 high-end silicons.
@maynardburger they can, it's not hard. Although they will need to redo all of the physical design with N3E library again. But time to market is more important, and TSMC is not ready yet for N3E mass manufacturing at the moment.
The SD8G3 is a great chip. Specially the GPU performance. The Snapdragon X Elite is also a great chip. The Snapdragon X Elite with 12 Oryon cores has a peak performance of 4.3 Ghz during single and dual core boost. If you use more then 2 cores, they will max run at 3.8 GHz. So the single core (4.3 GHz) performance is 11,96 % faster then the M2 Max (from 01.2023). The M3 Max (from 11.2023) performance cores are around 15 % faster then the M2 Max p cores. So the M3 Max is already now faster then Snapdragon X Elite in single core. And the time the Snapdragon X Elite will be released, in the same year (2024) maybe Apple will release the M4 chip family. And why did they not show the multi core performance against the M2 max chip? :) I think it will be a great chip and maybe many people will run Windows on it or linux and having a good time. Saving energy is always a good habit and having less fan noise. And they just wanted to hype it as everyone is doing it on his show. ARM is the future of computing. Have a good time.
每次新手机CPU/soc出来的时候第一时间搜你们的节目看测评,客观准确,没有废话,强!
Thank you so much for adding English subs. You all really are the best tech channel on RUclips
也是bilibili最好的科技频道
太棒了 雖然我是果粉 但很樂見安卓陣營超車蘋果!
不然近幾年蘋果真的都靠著老本一直在擠牙膏
軟體跟硬體都大不如前以外,很多功能也不下放
讓蘋果有危機感他們才會進步!!!
蘋果a系cpu工程師在19年走了,21年開公司,22年被高通收購了。😊
是这个道理,希望苹果有点危机感
可悲果粉只會繼續在ios圈安逸,沒辦法改了,他的功能早已是配屬價值,先不論你在夜店這種低消費層次的社交族群,貴許多的酒店一樣也是滿滿哀鳳,他們是為了炫耀嗎,某個程度上也不是,是因為很大族群的社交圈就是用這類東西,他們不在乎遊戲拍照多強,只在乎我身旁的大家是不是都在用這種「產品」
白話文:當一個品牌價值大於功能的時候,那族群分佈本身就是這個體系的,安卓再怎麼改他們也不會換,而這些族群消費能力剛好有很強,畢竟強消費不在乎CP只在乎VP,這就是消費生態有趣的地方
@@yang62696这是真的吗哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈没想到
感謝極客灣的專業評測,這才是真正的遙遙領先啊!
敌人的装备遥遥领先有什么值得高兴的呢?
@@zangdahe6913台積電製造的晶片算的人嗎?🤔
@@zangdahe6913敵人? 😂 你的敵人是全世界唷😂
@@zangdahe6913 谁是敌人?小米跟高通互持股份
= =?
Your videos are THE BEST! The Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is crazy impressive!
超有效率的
期待下一部整活測試進一步了解8gen3的極限,也期待紅魔9的評測地表最強的電競手機
星铁估计可以60帧运行了
還有RO G8
@@paulliu5176那时就真正的征服
有內建風扇,溫度牆調高,在高溫環境當然強。高溫度牆設計,沒上風扇,電池很快就壞了。經典之作,1+舊機型7 pro跑原神燙爆又順,電池一年多就鼓包了
@@user-ny5ek5dn5j 👍
省流 這次超車 CPU GPU 都贏了A17PRO
屁拉 單核又沒贏
@@whitesolaYT 試問現在有多少只吃單核的程式?
但銷量還是贏不了蘋果
Cpu中低频并没有超越
@@whitesolaYT笑死,只剩單核
太棒了!十几年苹果老用户了,最近一直在犹豫要不要换安卓,只是我的账号深度绑定苹果实在是不好换,骁龙8gen3出来绝对可以威胁苹果,苹果再也不能自视甚高挤牙膏了!
難怪庫克趕緊賣走自己的股票😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
THANK YOU SIR, THIS CHANNEL IS UNBELIEVABLY HELPFUL! 8GEN3 IS A BEAST!
看完我只覺得,Switch 性能要是有這一半就好了,畫質不至於那麼破🥲🥲🥲
任地獄表示Switch還能再戰3年
我真的無法想像巫師3跟APEX是被砍了多少才能在Switch 跑
这样价格会很高,买的人会更少,所以。。
@@user-cg4pb5ht7g不会,8GEN2的安卓掌机 奥丁2已经1999了,任天堂N64失败以后,一直是垃圾性能卖正常性能的价格(对比索尼和别的电子产品来说)
8gen2跑模拟器玩野炊帧数都比switch强🤣
Damn the 8gen 3 is truly getting the hype they deserve
So damn right
Imagine de 8 gen 4 with oryon cores 👀🔥
fire dragon!
just normal upgrade, more like apple being shtty these years
@@zihechen3111 no they're making apple look like shtt these years 😁
大家做好心理准备,明年一定蹦。好好珍惜今年的大爆发
期待下一代高通自研架構
第一代不用期待肯定不如ARM公版,参考骁龙820
+1+1
牙膏擠爆
會先烙賽 買S24U擋著看戲等他穩ˋ了再換
第一代自研絕對打不贏ARM公版
我從iphone5開始用智能手機 一直都用Apple 今年才剛換了iphone 15 pro max 讓我來說一句︰
打得好啊高通 繼續大大力打下去讓蘋果吃虧了才會好好做事不再擠牙膏
不管在哪個陣營 只要是對平台上有益的增長 對消費者來說都是好的 有競爭才會有進步嘛 廣東話正所謂唔屌唔鬆化 我們一起來看看蘋果是下一個intel還是nokia
苹果如果倒下那一定有划时代的产品推出,它被替代掉
反正你小子不打算用高通😂
yay! English subtitles!!
You're amazing Geekerwan! 😊
Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is truly a BEAST ‼️🤯🔥🔥
Yea trottling and 7h sot😂 not 9-10 on 8gen2.
虽然用mac和iphhone。。。但还是太好了,苹果这么多年只会守着生态圈吃老本,ai热没赶上,硬件也逐渐被迫近,引以为傲的工业美学也十年不变,我自己都记不得用的是13还是14,希望能被逼出来点儿新东西。也幻想下新Switch能有安卓旗舰水平!
只怕蘋果在蹲 其實已經發展出黑科技了 等到GEN3出來他又變出一款性能更強的 之前只是在COSTDOWN等你追上罷了
任天堂的機器不會給你性能的🤣
其實蘋果ai很厲害,像是空間音訊和watch的兩指手勢都是靠著大量機器學習實現的
8Gen3真香,過了幾年好像又可以回來買安卓手機了。
I was looking for your 8 gen 3 review and dound it here in the chinese channel. Good thing this chip wont disappoint us!
好厉害,希望苹果也努力
My expectations were low for 8 Gen 3, only expecting an incremental improvement, a squeezing toothpaste, as I was excited for Oryon-powered 8 Gen 4. But goddamn, Qualcomm. god fkn damn.
Qualcomm is using all they have about the arm public core architecture on the 8 gen 3 as it would be no use when their 8 gen 4 with their own architecture comes out
@user-iv4dh7zp7s nope. They could put a beefed-up cache like 8MB or 4MB.
I was thinking of upgrading to 8Gen3 but knowing Oryon is coming next year I don't know what to do now
@@lasue7244你们都能看懂中文吗😂通过图表还是翻译
@@copycat8227翻译成英文字母不就行了
非常期待明年的驍龍8Gen4的安卓新機!😊
我也是,8gen4是口碑之战
刚换了7+ GEN2, 估计7 Gen3降频版8 GEN 2性能爆炸好,能效更好完后价格1500左右,到时候1000级别得手机都是骁龙870的水平了,普通手机消费者一下子体验变得特别好
7gen2本来就超过870了啊,7gen2现在最低的价格在1100
性能体验不是可口可乐,美国原浆生产,全世界一个味道,手机性能体验好不好是华为说了算
普通手机消费者的体验就SOC来说早几年就够了,根本不需要到870级别,微信抖音快手就是广大普通消费者的使用场景。
7+ GEN2已經是888的水準了,7 GEN3真的很值得期待,尤其是功耗,我朋友說7+ GEN2真的很省電
@@zengachoo78867 + gen 2 is even better than 8 gen 1, slower but not hot and efficient
Thank you for the excellent review 👏
13:31 我們可以大膽猜測12年後手機會有4090性能的GPU
沒啥不可能,但半導體材料難題要先解決
架構不同很難說,而且手機完全沒有驅動可言,就算理論性能達到4090應該也無法被充分利用
散热和电池是大问题,最主要是电池,现在真的缺一个新电池的诺贝尔奖的得主
显卡是16090
@@user-iq4xz4pd2p 主要是電池沒找到更好的新材料,不然真的能得諾獎
終於等到極客灣的8g3影片了!
Imagine a overclocked SD 8Gen3 in a gaming phone with proper cooling 😮
高通終於來了,只要緩存在拉高,軟體上適配更好再來就要換天了
換天還是很難 大多數人買手機都不會看規格的 都是無腦蘋果
就像電腦一樣 amd現在足夠強 還是一堆人只會買intel
@@jjjj88521 AMD是用來逼Intel好好升級,和不要買太貴
挺好的,照这么下去未来可以去干M芯片。
这次为了c口换的17promax,但苹果这些年挤牙膏,真感觉不出来哪里不一样,不像安卓机迭代那么有新鲜感。
骁龙X Elite的性能CPU性能和能耗已经强于苹果M2 max了
Hello Engineers
you have created great content so far but due to the language barrier a lot of people can not access the content of your videos
your channel has a huge untapped potential.
Yunfei(Geekerwan's English channel host)was in the US when making this video so the English version can't be released at the first time
just wait a few days,he's about to return to China
@@user-ji7kr2cj7j thnx. But how did u get this information??
我记得油管有字幕,可以自动翻译成英文,极客湾也有英语频道
@@user-vl1yd1hs3k that is true and I am using that. I don't understand Chinese/mandrin. But if the content was in English it would be easier to understand especially the technical stuff.
@@Yossef_M for god sake, caption exist, though there are 20 percent mistranslation
高通自研构架的CPU看着着实有点太美好了,这个他们会给测试机一类的吗,好期待极客湾能测一测看看实际情况到底如何
I'm a Snapdragon 870 user yet, 8 Gen 3 seems to be a good chip, but now I'll wait for Oryon-based chips to upgrade. I really hope Qualcomm bring Oryon cores to a possible 7+ Gen 4, that's the one I would upgrade for.
7 gen 5 in 2025 or 2026 for poco f7 or f8 more relaistic
@@INTJ791 yeah, maybe.
高通近期骁龙能校都非常不錯阿,888 8Gen1除外..看得出來都在追趕著蘋果現在GPU效能整個超越且功耗還低,CPU多核效能終於超越A17 Pro,單核效能則是落後些,看完小米14配8Gen3能校比又比上一代8Gen2好上不少也沒翻車問題且散熱能力又更佳!,看來又會是好評熱賣了~最後還是免不了感謝極客灣的測試介紹~
Real usage its worst than 8gen2. :) 8gen3 its 8gen2 oc, with 3nm+ about 20% better but -40% efficient. Thats why 8gen2 the best. Check power consumption. 😊
@@furieux6742they use newer core designs tho and they added a core to cluster1 while taking one away from the efficiency cores
the sd 8 gen 3 performs better than the sd 8 gen 2 but at peak the sd 8 gen 2 can't even reach the power consumption is way higher (similar story with a17)
hopefully snapdragon 8 gen 5 perform at gtx 1660 laptop level
Nah that's too big of a leap if they can damn.
@@Nico-Lconsidering Qualcomm CPU made by nuvia for snapdragon 8 gen 4, TSMC 3nm, and new adreno 800 GPU series, it's possible for snapdragon 8 gen 5
期待天璣9300的開箱😂
A17p直接陣亡,剛自稱最強遊戲效能、光追,沒過多久直接掛點,米哈該開放120給PC跟安卓了吧,蘋果是真的完全不行呀
開發生態差很多,Apple對開發者是有一定的優勢的
光是從開發過程中有問題詢問原廠有專人回覆這點就差很多
開發Android是沒辦法找固定的Google工程師來問的,只能靠開源生態
而Apple會有固定的窗口負責將問題轉給工程師來回覆,效率上有差
何況適配iOS只要做一次就能適用在三種產品(iPad/Mac/iPhone)
適配安卓還要每家廠商都做一次測試,成本非常的大
@@user-im2fn2wq9y 話是那樣講,但實際上效能不行就是不行,就算你軟體有相關生態,硬體愈來愈不行就不是軟體能救的了,看看N卡在優化相對差的遊戲一樣都跑的順就知道,估計高通的GPU只會繼續強不會弱,至於蘋果大概只能繼續堆疊GPU核心數吧,至於你說的開發者喔,沒什麼呀,基本上就是懶而已,如果你已經長期在某個平台設計,會懶的跳很正常,但當硬體走向開始變化,最後還是會不得不離開原有的生態,高通只要繼續強化下去,那些開發者最後也是不得不跳槽。
順便一提現實是,人家還沒有IOS的專屬優化就已經比他好了,那專屬優化過後呢,蘋果就真的不用打了
Apple's MT and GPU leads are gone, all they retain is single core and the margin is narrowing substantially.
I wonder if they can ever separate themselves from the pack again, or this is like the Zen moment of CPU convergence where AMD and Intel have just stuck close since.
apple fanatics doesnt care. apple is apple😂
Most talented chip designers left 😅
Qualcomm Oryon chip already beats A17 and M2 in single core tests by a good margin and its coming to SD 8 Gen 4 next year.
@@Sand_1995 no its the next after we are not even into next year yet
@@Sand_1995 Doesn't matter, by then the A18 is out and if the M3, released just tonight, is anything to go by, Qualcomm is defeated
驍龍8g3 能效與體驗是第一選擇。好奇 A720x5 對比 天璣 X4 x3的2.85分Ghz, 哪個更勝一籌😅
天機緩存砍的太厲害了,體驗還是略不如高通,當然遊戲效能是遙遙領先
Apple caught sleeping for too long. Now they’re finally defeated!
Waiting for English version of the review.. hope you upload it soon 🤞🤞
There’s eng subtitle
They hv English Channel too
蘋果手機可能要步上個人電腦的後塵了,核心性能僅能勉強追趕,只剩用戶體驗能留住客群😢
笑死!沒有體驗你是要當作業員是嗎?
XDDDDD
@@esterior7198 對呀,所以我用iphone、imac、macbook、ipad😳
😢也就吃准了果子用户不差钱,不然2023年的60帧电子垃圾硬体垃圾咋敢发布
@@user-kx7fd2zc1z 個人電腦不差啊,用起來也很順,工作也方便
苹果手机无线和信号是硬伤
Imagine this SOC bad boy in a gaming phone like red magic (9) with the great cooling solution. Great work Qualcomm. As an iPhone 15 Pro Max (gaming) user I'm looking forward to the next Apple SOC with great cooling :)
Apples optimization is still their strength - these are really only numbers. Without proper optimization, s23 ultra runs some apps at 2fps.
@@Nicolas-gy3zf🤡🤡🤡 Keep crying kid just search the sustainable performance and fps in asphalt and genshin you'll know the shi
@@Nicolas-gy3zfcope
@@Nicolas-gy3zfsoftware optimization is the best but hardware optimization (cooling system) is shit
@@Nicolas-gy3zfname those "apps" that runs at 2fps on s23u
已入手小米14,感谢极客湾
啊?还没上市去哪买?
希望能測試看看carx street 雖然說不算大眾,但還是喜歡能看到,畢竟那款也蠻吃效能的。
很期待後續手機廠商們的表演,也很好奇如何發揮這款芯片的全部實力🎉
比較期待rog因為之後想用門號方式來買他
從高通幾季的電話會議來看,他們是為了在手機端跑 Edge-AI做準備,一般手遊已經不需要這麼強大的硬體能力了
想想未來 AI 時代,我們拿著手機就有個個人助理,真讓人興奮 : )
只有ROG能壓榨出所有實力,也因此我希望ROG8頂規版用8+GEN3
高通自研架构之后,如果能效还能提升,估计摄影要全面超越苹果了
@@jonathanchentw 红魔:?
期待早日出小米14和一加12的对比测评
三星默默又流下了眼淚,為什是又呢?
手機部門跟晶片部門拿刀互砍血流成河
剛從安卓陣營跳到蘋果,講句真心話。我有一台還可以的桌機可以順跑2K 3A大作,其實手機怎麼選都沒差。相信大部分果粉也是這樣,我管它這麼多幹什麼,只要用起來爽就完事了,我就算為了他的外觀買又怎樣哈哈。實在接受不了在手機上玩遊戲。
现在游戏移动端市场可比pc端大多了😂,你可以查查游戏公司的营收
照相也可以带索尼,IPHONE 6S适合您
同意,我還在用nokia3310
note20,s24 plus,玩原神順暢又低溫。
不错啊,等看看后续什么机型搭载
First time watching a Chinese video on RUclips. Geekerwan is the best!
即便8G3都測完了,我還是對天機9300很有興趣
傳說中完全不用小核,到底跑出來會長怎樣還是很好奇的
單核性能較低但多核應該會勝過高通😂 至於跑遊戲有可能小輸或差不多(機會不大
摔車吧,聯發科是強在安慰股民的新聞稿而已。
4個x4 都不敢想像那個能耗
簡單阿,CPU 調到比高通跑分高一點,GPU像上代一樣,硬超到跟高通一樣,啊功耗閉口不談,再買幾個RUclipsr幫忙宣傳,就可以割韭菜了,我甚至看過有人留言天璣9200+是世界上最好的手機處理器
應該單核差不多但多核能效更強,最該擔心的還是
現在蘋果A系列處理器機基本上就是M系列的實驗室,蘋果已經對手機上的A系列soc不上心了
首席硅仙人跳槽了,并且制程红利太小了
红魔9:听说你们在等原神1.5k60帧?
Rog phone:
还说1.5 4k走起
@@user-sz2bh1nq7zrog phone就算了,性能释放最好的游戏手机是红魔,rog phone加上散热背夹也打不过有主动散热的红魔
1440p x 120fps 😂
@@user-sz2bh1nq7z紅魔調的比較好,而且還有領先版加持
邊框感覺跟13一樣 只有下巴變窄 但螢幕變好了還是好評!!
小米14还是很值得买的
幹得好,這樣蘋果明年才不會擠牙膏👍期待每年高通都不擺爛,這樣果粉有福了🎉
說到底 蘋果肯在散熱下功夫的話也不會走到這一步😮💨 恨鐵不成鋼
均熱板不過就是兩片銅片而已啊
@@ntr1381 就是那兩片都不肯給才嘆氣😮💨 再好的設計也比不上那兩片來得確實
@@ntr1381連這種基本的東西都不給 問題不夠大嗎
@@szuhanzheng9199 我說散熱的時候用蘋果的人表示你再說甚麼
thanks for subtitles ❤
很開心8Gen3變得如此強悍!但整篇留言幾乎都沒什麼人提到"效能過剩"這種留言,好奇那些人都去哪了?但對我個人而效能是越強越好,能耗比越好看越好,期待為桌邊端的那顆晶片!!!
左轉fb會出現一堆效能過剩言論
我就觉得性能过剩,但是续航提升我还是很在意的
我也觉得性能过剩了,但续航很值得期待。
另外,我认为当硬件达到一定程度后,应该更关注软件提升才行,如何在一定水平的性能下依然保持优秀的流畅度,这个我更看重些。如果靠硬件暴力运行,确实能够保障流畅度,但也没有推动软件业的优化工作,大堆大堆的屎山。。。。
遙遙領先!!
現實是所有被人拿來說嘴的產品,質量都沒有過硬,效能都沒有過剩XD
用4nm的高通cpu和gpu雙殺A17pro,重點是不只效能好,能效也好,蘋果你令果粉情何以堪
更期待天璣9300到底是真香?還是個火璣😂
這GPU可以順跑GTA5了吧
跑分跟1050一樣,最低配置應該可以打個佩島
gta5吃CPU,PS4PRO跑GTA5也只有30帧,就是因为CPU烂
人家明明说的是1050ti
@@user-dz6zd1iv3yps4系列的cpu还不如arm的a57,现在的cpu早就够了,是没有厂商优化的问题
厲害, 要是放到VR眼鏡上應該很有潛力?
評測專業度讚
Excited for the dub as much as waiting for an Anime episode
一个小建议 表格的数字列要么右对齐要么居中对齐,最好不要左对齐 (例如 2:46 )
为啥,有什么说法吗
哈哈, 看到了老罗当年的 keynote 特效
9:38 右边打错了,应该是更少调用系统运行库
這麽專業的評測,不出英文版本的實在是太可惜了。感覺英文頻道也很難找到極客灣這個級別的評測内容額
有英文字幕啦😂
有英字,以及极客湾英文频道也会上传英配版
他們有英文頻道直接說英文的
They'll definitely upload this video on their English channel.
Хороший обзор. Спасибо парни!
應該測試下 麥塊(我的世界)的Deferred Technical Preview和戰車世界高畫質+HD PBR紋理
2:51 我印象中當時發展多核的理由,好像是因為一顆核心做太大時,製造的良率很低,結果現在還是把一顆核心愈做愈大,不知道這算不算製程進步帶來的技術變化
其實是有些事情就是大核心來做效率比較高,加上非伺服器超算應用對多核的優化都很慢,因為優化多核其實很貴
1.邊際效應
以intel來舉例 p core的晶圓面積占到e core的四倍 耗電也是數倍 效能卻不到兩倍
2.程式效率
16顆3ghz的核心跟8顆6ghz的核心理論上效能是相同的 但實際執行時因為優化的關係16核低頻那邊會明顯低落 俗稱一核有難多核圍觀 這也是為什麼e5這種多核低頻洋垃圾不適合打遊戲的原因
@@ABABBAB 但過了均衡點後單核太胖也會造成功耗過高能效不佳的窘局,所以不是把單核堆到不能再堆就天下無敵
我想说 今年都这么炸裂 明年恐怕 更加爆炸 还有这个gpu都能达到1050ti那岂不是 刷一个win11 就可以玩3a了 赛博朋克2077 1050ti都能跑40针 期待极客湾整活手机玩2077 强行上究极散热
高通的營運能不能撐下去還是問題
如果很賺錢幹嘛上海跟新竹的研發要裁員?
大公司裁員跟新陳代謝一樣正常,看減員也要看減掉那些人,像蘋果之前走的那批團隊才叫痛。
@user-qq2wo8cw3g 两地的研发中心是做样子的,让消费者更有好感度而已,真正的还是本土,现在台湾有天玑,大陆有海思,效果没那么好了就不装了而已。
@@user-qq2wo8cw3g美國科技公司今年都在裁員,𣎴要那麼無知好吧
now give us the English version!!! also, last time, I felt the English version lacked the technical complexity this version provides...
Use subtitles
i will watch this channel even if i had to read the captions.
能不能评测一下AYN家的掌机奥丁2?
I'll skip the gen 3 and will upgrade to the gen 4. By 2024 the 3nm process is mature enough to bring significant improvements to all 2025 high-end silicons.
The switch from N3B to N3E should be pretty notable. And if Qualcomm can leap from N4(P?) to N3E in one go, that should be quite a leap.
@maynardburger they can, it's not hard. Although they will need to redo all of the physical design with N3E library again. But time to market is more important, and TSMC is not ready yet for N3E mass manufacturing at the moment.
GPU可以這樣超頻好爽喔,從865+之後就算用konabess也不能這樣超,因為有硬體頻率限制,超過不給開機。
這顆真的可以買
手機GPU也沒幾款吃重GPU的,超頻就是測試極限而已,超那麼高多半也用不到
@@awesomehuang 不一定,很多遊戲非常吃GPU。等到一支手機用了兩三年後,那時候8 gen 6已經出了,可以透過超頻延續gen 3的生命。這個頻道就不只一次幹過這事,這也是刷機圈很常幹的事情。
@@hsucc
那你還是先找幾款遊戲在跑的時候GPU佔用率能跑到80%以上再來說很多遊戲吃GPU吧😅
另外,你超GPU就想延續生命?那還不是因為CPU還能用,跟GPU根本沒有太大的關係好嗎?
最後,他們說用「特殊方法」超頻上去的,就代表這方法八成是內部測試,甚至還有可能不是小米而是從高通那裡取得測試權限才能使用的,你一般發售的不要想太多啦
@@awesomehuang 不好意思吼,我不知道你是不是吃飽太閒腦袋撞到跑來吵架,但是光是865跑原神原本的587Mhz常常都會飆到90%以上,降壓超頻之後鎖定670Mhz就不會有小卡頓。崩鐵的壓力更高可惜我沒玩,而且除了這些比較有名的遊戲之外也有畫質更好更吃GPU資源的。865都這樣了更不用說我手上另一隻是820。
我不知道Konabess什麼時候支援gen3,但是865難道是我是高通員工所以才可以超頻到905Mhz的喔,不懂就不要吵,除非送測機是ES版CPU,正式版鎖頻率,否則國外一堆大神等他們破解就好。
@@hsucc
笑死,很多遊戲說來說去就是在說崩鐵或原神,其他畫質更好又是哪些?怎麼又不拿主流射擊手遊、moba、或是各種營收或下載數前十名的拿出來啊?
而且再怎麼吃也是相對其他手遊比較吃而已,如果相對於CPU,在多數遊戲上一般解析度都720p甚至以下而已,這才是導致GPU通常不太吃重,而更吃重CPU的原因好嗎
再來,我在說8G3的GPU不太可能可以超,你跟我扯865能超頻幹嘛?就像我說8G2不能超,你又要說你好猛865給你超到900多,好棒棒?還有,他們那隻手機甚至連root權限都沒拿到,還繼續扯你能用konabess超,你影片是雲來的?你是站在什麼基礎在比較?
能改頻率的方法要嘛就小米提前給他們root權限,讓他們去修改,但這樣多半還是會被高通的trustzone限制頻率修改方式,而且他們也說沒root權限了,所以目前來看最有可能的推測就是高通那邊給他們不同的8G3版本和權限去測試,從高通在發表8G3的3DMark跑的數據來看也更像跟這影片有超頻過的數據一樣,所以高通那邊要超頻還是比較有可能的。但終究一句話,將來零售機八九成也會跟現在的GPU一樣,不能超好嗎?
頭香,B站剛看完就上片了
我期待今次8 gen電腦版表現
下回极客湾用千元改造机888干翻8gen3吧?😂
幾乎完勝A17 pro 又是一代神U 真香
繼續做夢吧。
@@JustMockingDontGetAngry 這是事實 別崩潰
@@JustMockingDontGetAngry崩潰了@@? 事實 就是A17被打趴了
@@user-yn7hc8fv6n 否,事實是啄粉以為超越蘋果開始自嗨,結果用起來完全不是這麼一回事。
We need this in your english channel
专业评测的天花板
有点后悔买了iphone 15 pro
我們安卓大家庭歡迎你😆
Melhor canal de test 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
這次的8gen 3也太香了,我還以爲高通出了8gen2就要開始擠牙膏了
Thats what I thought too! My expectations for this generation were low.
要也是兩年後
現在才開始裁員代表自研設計項目已經做了一個段落了
有些廣告會繞過我的小米紅米的音量控制,並將音量強制調到最大。但沒有出現和我其他手機一樣的問題。去年我提交了數十封回饋和投訴。大多數時候他們會忽略它,但在極少數情況下,他們會以標準格式回應要求提交系統日誌。但重點是我在他們第一次回覆後每次都會提交系統日誌。 現在想來,這就是他們逐利的設計。就像電視一樣,廣告時段的音量往往會變大。
速度啊 極客彎 等很久啦 這顆8Gen3確實強大 蘋果在擠牙膏 等被高通超車GPU完全屌打 CPU多核贏了 剩單核了😂
有種當年AMD崛起的既視感
@@Jun03o.o蘋果看起來就像當年的Intel
之前有說,研發團隊換很大
@@realblack177 原來
@@realblack177蘋果a系cpu工程師在19年走了,21年開公司,22年被高通收購了。😊
三星下一代要用自家的核心,想想就很心酸
歐版跟韓版而已吧
@@ians4378還有部分運營商合約機也是三星自己獵戶座cpu
這個是不是台積電晶片的那個版本??
实在没想到啊,2年前A15 GPU 表现堪称外星科技,现在反了,苹果牙膏挤够了没🥹
建议把“遥遥领先”也加入对比列表🤣
這是自取其辱😂
甚麼是遥遥领先
华为@@ntr1381
B站已經看過了,這樣蘋果唯一能吹得cpu都快涼了
遥遥领先屁没有不是一样吹
看來我的9T pro(k20)能換掉了
第一台手機用820,後來懂手機,幹上了賊船
所以新架構推出,我都會等他的改良版
虽然前半节啥也没听懂,但是觉得很厉害😂
8gen3 真的很强啊,Apple 需要努力了!
前幾個月一位朋友還很理所當然的跟我說玩遊戲當然是要拿蘋果的手機
當時我就覺得怪怪 但無奈CPU確實還是輸蘋果
8gen3出來之後終於有底氣嗆回去了 (當然不是真要吵 朋友間打嘴砲而已
玩遊戲不是看gpu的嗎?。其實你朋友沒說錯,很多遊戲都對ios有優化。國產遊戲只對部分國產手機有優化。
苹果最大的问题还是散热,性能其实不是最大的因素毕竟苹果可以逼厂商做优化
日本遊戲的話,拿蘋果這個說法是對的
部分日本遊戲的流暢度,連A12都能虐8Gen2
最近出的鍊金手遊就是一個例子,特效全低幀數30
連A12流暢度優於8gen2;865頻繁閃退,但性能比865弱很多的A11卻能穩定運行
鍊金現在應該算是超越原神的性能測試指標了
M2 ipad Pro也做不到特效全高穩60幀
雖然大家都明白問題在優化上
其實隨便拿個8g2體驗就比蘋果好了,至於IOS優化嗎?你大概沒啥感覺,因為高通的GPU強太多了
@@INSP1213 8gen2的gpu好沒錯,不過問題是目前沒有廠家願意做遊戲或者移植遊戲給安卓來讓8gen2的gpu發光發熱。反觀隔壁蘋果儘管散熱差gpu還沒8gen2好參加還是願意移植3a遊戲給蘋果
看完小米商城的小米14价格,本小米13用户感到了深深的背刺。。同样是12G+256G,去年要4599,今年只要4299了,这还是在现在这个汇率背景下。。。
国内消费力不行了,消费降级不是说说而已
Nice with captions [E]
Thank you
期待ROG PHONE 的新機!!
First time ever a snapdragon beat apple in multi core performance. waiting for oryon to overtake m series
The SD8G3 is a great chip. Specially the GPU performance. The Snapdragon X Elite is also a great chip. The Snapdragon X Elite with 12 Oryon cores has a peak performance of 4.3 Ghz during single and dual core boost. If you use more then 2 cores, they will max run at 3.8 GHz. So the single core (4.3 GHz) performance is 11,96 % faster then the M2 Max (from 01.2023). The M3 Max (from 11.2023) performance cores are around 15 % faster then the M2 Max p cores. So the M3 Max is already now faster then Snapdragon X Elite in single core. And the time the Snapdragon X Elite will be released, in the same year (2024) maybe Apple will release the M4 chip family. And why did they not show the multi core performance against the M2 max chip? :) I think it will be a great chip and maybe many people will run Windows on it or linux and having a good time. Saving energy is always a good habit and having less fan noise. And they just wanted to hype it as everyone is doing it on his show. ARM is the future of computing. Have a good time.