I worked from the mid 50's to the mid 60's as a projectionist in a theater in Tennessee that .. at first .. used Simplex projectors and mercury vapor rectifiers ( DC power for the arcs). Later that put in "new" Century projectors with Strong arcs and solid state power supplies. Early on, the sound was Western Electric sound .. about 25 watts on a good day. This was at an old vaudeville house with over 300 seats. Optical sound with tubes of course! The speaker was electro-dynamic so two cable runs to the screen .. one for the sound and the other to power the magnet that was also used as a filter in the power supply for the sound amp! I was lucky enough to visit a projection booth at the Cinerama theater in Kansas City in the late 50's or early 60's. Three projectors and a sound machine. As I recall there were three people keeping it all running .. and no platters just big reels. Last year, I ran into an identical Century projector that was being used as a prop at a bar in Thailand. Still remembered how to thread it!
Platters couldn't be used, before we get rid nitro footage. Because of nitro, we had pretty short reels and to change over. Switzerland was lazy about safety, so it was usual to have a movie on two reels and play it on one projector. Audience was used, that after 45 minutes the show paused and they walked to the lobby as they do in theaters.
I remember as a kid always having my eye on the black cue mark on the top right corner of the screen. I wish film could stay alive. It’s more rewarding than digital.
Yep, platters are the thing that made multiplexes possible. Can't have more than two screens per projectionist when you're running changeover, and even that is a stretch. With platters, one projectionist can handle at least 10.
@@KingdaToro I was handling 16 by myself actually, and believe it or not, I probably could have handled around 20 total during the busy hour for shows, I had to train people as well and it was fun watching them start to panic as all the shows were finishing at the same time and had a small 20 minute turn around time, there was only one time I had to tell a trainee they werent cut out for the job lol
I was never a projectionist professionally, but always wanted to be one. In junior high, my science teacher would always let me thread up the movie projector to watch educational films. Had to make sure the pin holes were engaged properly and also had to make sure you put in slack before AND after passing thru the lens assembly.
Just a recommendation: I would Form the upper loop 3 to 4 perfs smaller, usually runs quieter and sometimes even picture steadiness is better on Kinoton FP20/30/.. when the looper isn't that huge.
Interesting way of threading that C shape below the gate. I will try that next time I hope your print was a little better than ours. We got it 2nd run on 9 reels. There were several small stratches that showed up on screen, as well as 1 continuous vertical scratch. Still, it was such an amazing experience being able to inspect and project a Tarantino print. I've been a fan since I was a teenager.
Lucky you with the 6k reels, I had to do the 2k Goldberg crossover reels between two early 90's Simplex Century's for our 35mm first run and then a followup, "in case you missed it", fall second run. My total 35mm projection screenings was over 110. One hell of a ride. You have a beauty of a setup there, nice and clean. Thanks for sharing the process, always interesting to see other configurations and executions.
I saw "Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood" at the JBFC on Saturday night opening weekend. Sold-out screening! It's a cool thought that you may have been the projectionist.
Lucky you gets to thread 35 again, I miss those days at AMC threading Simplex projects. But noticed your letting the film touch the floor. Maybe thats a bit harder to avoid when there is no platter but when I did it I always threaded up the projector, literally!
@@sascharollI was taught if the film touches the floor, it will not be long before your projecting the booth floor along with the film for all to see. Plus if you get some larger particles of dirt stuck in the film gate, you up the odds of scratching the print which is valued at over $2,000. I wonder if he sets his bluray discs on the floor before playing them?
It looks much more interesting than pure digital cinema (which also is interesting in a way) and I've got so many questions. What purpose has that box with "Kinoton Digital" label that looks like it scans the film with laser? And how is the projectors change-over synchronized and how time critical it is? Is there some scene overlap on both reels or is the change made sudden in a cut between two scenes? When are the lamps turned on and off during the process?
Absolutely amazing! 👍 I saw this film some days ago, but not in 35mm. I found a theatre in Berlin, which plays the film in 35mm, and next week I will go there and watch again.
Thats interesting. How the film comes out in multiple reels rather than one huge reel. But its great to see you work in action. Its really like a dance trying to set up each projector for the start and every change over that follows.
At 1:28, brings back so many memories. Used to work with Strong 35mm projectors. Always remembered giving a generous loop for the intermittent sprocket just before shutting the gate. Thanks for sharing this rarity.
The "running projector" will project two cues in the upper right of the screen. The first is about five seconds before the film runs out. When it appears you start the "starting projector" which you have threaded on the film leader at 8. By the time the second cue appears, this projector will have run thru it's leader film and be at the start of movie frames. So you then hit the changeover button. Typically, this would be a new scene so it just looks like a scene change.
@@techy5025 Cues are roughly 8 seconds and 1 second, besides that you are right. But there are actually quite a few films that have reel changes mid scene, sometimes even in Dialogue.
I heard about a projectionist, who wants to take a nap. When rolling the movie to the reel, he placed a coin one minute before the end, so the falling coin fell into the fire proof drum, makes a noise, wakes him up for change over.
The Distributors have decided against bringing in even a couple of 35mm prints let alone 70mm for NewZealand cinemas who still can screen film... even when a group of cinemas offer to pay for freight...
If the film is shot digitally at least 1 or 2 film prints are struck for alternative preservation methods sometimes they’re made at the request of the producers or director most of these newer prints never see the light of day in a theater but sometimes arthouse theaters get lucky to see them.
Also a few directors got together with Kodak since they're the last ones to make the film and they sign some sort of agreement Quentin Tarantino was one of those directors along with Spielberg and Christopher Nolan
Scott Luther depending on the quality of the film stock used a single frame of film has a native resolution of 8K with 70mm film stock having a native resolution of between 16-20K depending on the quality. But yeah I believe 8K will probably be the last time the industry try’s to sell resolution as a must have cause at this point it’s just adding pixels for pixels sake at least for the home market it’s pretty much overkill. Unfortunately I just don’t see shooting on film being around much longer the industry is so personally invested in digital at this point the war to allow artists to film how they want to is pretty much gone.
Trapped In Time yeah I remember that deal basically a fleet of artists ensured that at least for the rest of their careers they wouldn’t have to be told to shoot digitally. It’s weird we don’t tell painters to paint with a tablet but the film industry is so quick to tell an artist how their work should be filmed. It’s a bummer.
amazing,here in argentina we lost 35mm film,is all digital crap.the only film is old super 8mm movies in my home.I miss film in cinemas,today I watch all movies in home.theaters are no longer live in my life since film missing. film is real cinema,digital is for loosers.
Esa falsedad digital que la que mencionas dependerá enteramente de los técnicos del cine y la calibración que le den al proyector, he visto proyectores qué se asemejan bastante a la calidad de una cinta de 35mm si están bien calibradas. Sólo por ser digital no significa que sea una abominación hacia la magia del cine y esas cosas al fin de cuentas es entretenimiento XD
Thanks for sharing this! Love real film prints. Funny how things changed. A few years ago digital was considered better, now film is the real thing. I agree with the latter. Film (a quality print that is) is simply gorgeous to look at, as it should be.
Yeah mostly General Managers and Other Movie Theater higher ups or just anyone making some kind of money preferred Digital lol. They get bigger bonuses and save money. Not sure what the future will be like with movie theaters during the shutdown but the digital technology will remain. In the 2010s we saw the very tail end of film and it just decreased. Now in the 2020s that fad I think is over with(Well in mainstream theaters of course). If you want to see film only art houses probably. Sorry long response lol
Digital is only better in the sense of cost and convenience. 35mm film is roughly equivalent to 4K, which digital has reached, but the larger film formats have no digital equivalent.
I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a movie on the big screen projected in film! I’ve always wanted to though. Only problem, No theater where I live does any of that.
So cool to see how it's done. What a maze that film has to go through. Keep up the content! I wanna know more trade/tech stuff. Is the film projector bulb brighter than the digital one? Do you have to adjust focus in-between movies? Also that repetitive noise can't be good for you in the long run :)
Looks just a little bit more complicated than my old 1970's Bell & Howell Super 8 projector! LOL., Thanks very much for sharing this video with us! Take it ez, Tom in NV
Watching you thread that Kinoton head kind of hurt. I operated 14 of those a day for 10 years. I know the most efficient way to thread one. After running reel to reel and leaving plenty of slack on the take up side, Set the frame in the Gate first, Close the gate. Thread take up path and around the sound house and set bottom loop. Thread feed path last, set top loop. Done.
Yes it was a bit annoying. I only ran those starting in 2019 and realized they have sensetive censors. I unfortunately left that job in 2020 due to the Pandemic.
I was shocked to see fast 8 & IT chapter 1 both shot in 35mm when I saw the movie at my local cinemas here in Australia with my sister I thought film stock got phased out years ago, it's good to know old school techniques are still being used in the art of film making obviously it's cheaper than digital transfer movies
I assume the audio is being read by that white box with the Dolby Digital logo on it (Kinoton?) - how do you sync the audio and video up as there must be a little bit of 'play' in the loops where the film is a little loose?
The sound usually precedes the frame. Both analog and digital audio Because the sound reading head is behind the film gate If the digital reader 5.1 Stay before the film gate Then can set a delay on the sound processor By entering the number of frames from the reader head to the film gate into the sound processor.
Imagine doing this real old school style with the old carbon lamphouses. I don't know if a carbon lamphouse could run a 6000' reel. 9 reels, a 3 hour movie. Plus the extra task of changing spent carbons.
The80'sDIEHARD Studios That’ll be awesome. I have two films on 35mm, Wild Wild West & The Last Samurai, but would really like to see the format in an actual cinema setting again. Hoping there will at least be a theater in Georgia showing Tenet on 35/70/IMAX.
Rune in terms of quality too. It’s horrible. I think there’s a resurgence in traditional film though. If only they built movie houses that were solely dedicated to projecting 16, 35 and 70 mm films.
Digital is just cheaper. That's it. Film is still just as high quality, 35mm (what you're seeing here) is roughly equivalent to 4K. And this isn't how film was normally run, instead you'd have all the reels spliced together onto a large horizontal reel called a platter. This allows the whole film to run completely unattended, without changeovers or rewinding. In fact, platters are what made multiplexes possible in the first place, when they're used a single projectionist can handle 10+ screens rather than just one or two.
Film has always been shipped on reels, and most of the archives today won't allow their prints to be spliced together on platters, so reel to reel is necessary if you run any older titles.
In multiplexes, yes. They're what allow a single projectionist to run 10+ screens. When a movie is being shown only once or a small number of times, and has a dedicated projectionist, it's not worth the time to splice it together and break it down.
I mean 6000ft. Platter system is more a thing of the past ironically considering we are using reel to reel which is older lol. Platters are no ling used anymore to minimize any severe damages or un needed wear and tear on the film. In terms of cues, unfortunately Once Upon A Time in Hollywood had no lab cues. Every theater that receives this print so no print had lab cues. We used grease pencil. Why we ran on 6k reels as suppose to the normal 2ks was to cut down the amount of changeovers due to other traffic of movies coming through the booth in regards to special shows and q&s with spotlight. We received permission from the studio use 6ks
Anyone see both the 35 and 70mm of the film. I only saw the 70mm print at Cinerama and was wondering if anyone had an opinion as to what the difference is or quality is in comparison.
I did not see the 70mm version. I am sure it will be mi h brighter but the image will be blown up. The movie was shot in the 35mm format you see presented in the video.
There are two cue marks on the film itself that show up on screen. The first is 8 seconds before the end, when you see it you start the projector with the new reel. The second one is 1 second before the end. When you see it, you pull the changeover lever, which simultaneously closes the dowser (blocks the light) on the projector with the old reel and opens the dowser on the projector with the new reel.
@@boahneelassmal No, but it will be close enough. Typically, the break between reels will be at a scene change, in which case it will be indistinguishable if done correctly.
Would seeing this movie on 35mm two weeks after opening night still look good? The reason I ask is because I know the quality degrades every time you run the film print through a projector, I'm just not sure how fast it does. I'm planning on seeing it on 35mm this weekend but just want to make sure the film isn't going to look like shit because the print I'm going to see it on has been running since opening night (I think the theater I'm seeing it at has 3 screenings a day of this movie), and I doubt this theater has more than one print of the movie.
Yeah you would be fine. I mean you cant stop little specs of dirt or a very light base scratch get in the way. All movies before 2010 were on 35mm so you know what you are getting into. Yes theaters today do not have multiple prints of the same movie. Whatever they have that would be it.
@@the80sdiehard Awesome thanks! Haven't seen a movie on 35mm since I was in early high school so I can't wait! Heard watching this movie on actual film is the absolute best way to see it!
There are 2 main loops, upper and lower which are required for proper projection. Any other loops are either fail safes Incase the film breaks or digital sound pick drums. 35mm has 4 soundtracks. (1) A stereo analog optical track. (2) A Dolby Digital track. (3) A 7 channel SDDS Track (4) A time code for DTS sound. Normally each sound track reader has a bunch of loops to maintain proper tension on the film.
@@andrewbarnum5040 I'm amazed that they managed to get three different competing digital sound systems sandwiched between and around the sprocket holes and retain the stereo optical tracks. Somewhere, I have several feet off of a reel of 'Ben Hur" that has the original 50's four channel magnetic sound tracks that were 'printed' on the film. I think three behind the screen and one surround. State of the art for the day!
@@techy5025 technically there are 2 digital soundtracks on the film. Dolby Digital has a QR code type thing between the sprocket holes providing 5.1 dolby digital sound. The second is SDDS which is 7.1 digital sound along with redundant data just incase the film needs to be repaired. Up to 10 frames can be cut out with no sound dropout. The "third" soundtrack is really a time code as the audio is stored on a CD, not on the film. But still amazing they can store 2 digital soundtracks plus the stereo optical track.
Although a late reply. I've delt with this back in the mid-late 90's on platter systems. Depending on why/how it broke you can re-splice the film back together really quick. However I have had issues where someone forgot to set the platter to payout to basically feed the film to the projector and it wraps around the center because the platter isn't moving and and breaks. In those cases you typically are cancelling that show, and usually the next one or starting it late to fix the film because you have to take the section that broke off the platter splice it back in, get it rewound back onto the receiving platter, re-splice it back to the where it originally broke, then payout the rest of the film to get it basically back all onto the one platter and threaded back up for the next show.
They've been digital since 2010. Before that, they ran platters. They're big horizontal reels that hold the whole movie spliced together. All you need to do is thread the projector and start it, they completely eliminate changeovers and rewinding.
So Tarantino takes all that time to make a beautiful film, the production company spends all that money to create the prints and the first time the audience sees it your greasy fingerprints are all over it. Well done meatball.
The section of film I am touching is leader. Leader is attached to a film print to allow the projectionist to thread up through the projector and properly secure its run. Every projectionist threads up this way
I worked from the mid 50's to the mid 60's as a projectionist in a theater in Tennessee that .. at first .. used Simplex projectors and mercury vapor rectifiers ( DC power for the arcs). Later that put in "new" Century projectors with Strong arcs and solid state power supplies. Early on, the sound was Western Electric sound .. about 25 watts on a good day. This was at an old vaudeville house with over 300 seats. Optical sound with tubes of course! The speaker was electro-dynamic so two cable runs to the screen .. one for the sound and the other to power the magnet that was also used as a filter in the power supply for the sound amp!
I was lucky enough to visit a projection booth at the Cinerama theater in Kansas City in the late 50's or early 60's. Three projectors and a sound machine. As I recall there were three people keeping it all running .. and no platters just big reels.
Last year, I ran into an identical Century projector that was being used as a prop at a bar in Thailand. Still remembered how to thread it!
very good sir ! amazing job
Platters couldn't be used, before we get rid nitro footage. Because of nitro, we had pretty short reels and to change over.
Switzerland was lazy about safety, so it was usual to have a movie on two reels and play it on one projector. Audience was used, that after 45 minutes the show paused and they walked to the lobby as they do in theaters.
Thank you for sharing!)
Look at you double checking everything to make sure it runs perfect. Thanks for creating the best experience possible for those viewers.
Just saw this at the Oriental Theater in Milwaukee on 35mm. it was the absolute best way to see it.
Did you see the guys from Red Letter Media? ☺
@@AngrySilence I didn't but I wouldn't be surprised if they were there. We showed up pretty early and it really filled in afterwards.
I’m happy we still have a few directors shooting on film. Just the best experience to watch a movie
I remember as a kid always having my eye on the black cue mark on the top right corner of the screen. I wish film could stay alive. It’s more rewarding than digital.
The 35mm shows I did were on huge platters that eliminated change overs, your vids bring back so many memories from my 9 years as a projectionist
Yep, platters are the thing that made multiplexes possible. Can't have more than two screens per projectionist when you're running changeover, and even that is a stretch. With platters, one projectionist can handle at least 10.
@@KingdaToro I was handling 16 by myself actually, and believe it or not, I probably could have handled around 20 total during the busy hour for shows, I had to train people as well and it was fun watching them start to panic as all the shows were finishing at the same time and had a small 20 minute turn around time, there was only one time I had to tell a trainee they werent cut out for the job lol
Wow. Very interesting. Just found your channel. Never knew it was that much work. You got yourself a new subscriber. Keep up the good work.
I was never a projectionist professionally, but always wanted to be one. In junior high, my science teacher would always let me thread up the movie projector to watch educational films. Had to make sure the pin holes were engaged properly and also had to make sure you put in slack before AND after passing thru the lens assembly.
YES WANTED TO DO THIS JOB MYSELF ,,,, JAWS TEESHIRT ,,,, CLASSY DUDE
Yes! Thank you for the upload!
Just a recommendation: I would Form the upper loop 3 to 4 perfs smaller, usually runs quieter and sometimes even picture steadiness is better on Kinoton FP20/30/.. when the looper isn't that huge.
Interesting!
Nice work! I shot something similar for my channel this weekend, can't wait to run this movie when it's released over here!
I always love all of your videos. Like other people have noted, seeing you doing the final check with your hand is great.
Lovely work, and a nice bio. I worked part time a s a projectionist till digital kicked us all out, but I still run my FP20 at home. Film forever!
Thank you. I love this stuff. So much, I run a Vic 5 in one of my bedrooms. The screen takes up my living room wall.
fantastic to see this...thank you for posting....keep up the passion and faith
Interesting way of threading that C shape below the gate. I will try that next time
I hope your print was a little better than ours. We got it 2nd run on 9 reels. There were several small stratches that showed up on screen, as well as 1 continuous vertical scratch. Still, it was such an amazing experience being able to inspect and project a Tarantino print. I've been a fan since I was a teenager.
Lucky you with the 6k reels, I had to do the 2k Goldberg crossover reels between two early 90's Simplex Century's for our 35mm first run and then a followup, "in case you missed it", fall second run. My total 35mm projection screenings was over 110. One hell of a ride. You have a beauty of a setup there, nice and clean. Thanks for sharing the process, always interesting to see other configurations and executions.
I saw "Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood" at the JBFC on Saturday night opening weekend. Sold-out screening! It's a cool thought that you may have been the projectionist.
Lucky you gets to thread 35 again, I miss those days at AMC threading Simplex projects. But noticed your letting the film touch the floor. Maybe thats a bit harder to avoid when there is no platter but when I did it I always threaded up the projector, literally!
Exactly - Film never touches the floor. (Very easy on changeover operation)
@@sascharollI was taught if the film touches the floor, it will not be long before your projecting the booth floor along with the film for all to see. Plus if you get some larger particles of dirt stuck in the film gate, you up the odds of scratching the print which is valued at over $2,000. I wonder if he sets his bluray discs on the floor before playing them?
It looks much more interesting than pure digital cinema (which also is interesting in a way) and I've got so many questions.
What purpose has that box with "Kinoton Digital" label that looks like it scans the film with laser? And how is the projectors change-over synchronized and how time critical it is? Is there some scene overlap on both reels or is the change made sudden in a cut between two scenes? When are the lamps turned on and off during the process?
awesome equipment indeed!
I’ll gladly move out to Cali if I could do that for a living.
Absolutely amazing! 👍
I saw this film some days ago, but not in 35mm. I found a theatre in Berlin, which plays the film in 35mm, and next week I will go there and watch again.
So, did you visit us at Filmrauschpalast and did you enjoy the show? 😎
@@sascharoll Oh, no, it was another theatre (I forgot which one it was)! But due to the Corona-Pandemic I could not watch it....
Thats interesting. How the film comes out in multiple reels rather than one huge reel. But its great to see you work in action. Its really like a dance trying to set up each projector for the start and every change over that follows.
At 1:28, brings back so many memories. Used to work with Strong 35mm projectors. Always remembered giving a generous loop for the intermittent sprocket just before shutting the gate. Thanks for sharing this rarity.
How do you sync the change over?
The "running projector" will project two cues in the upper right of the screen. The first is about five seconds before the film runs out. When it appears you start the "starting projector" which you have threaded on the film leader at 8. By the time the second cue appears, this projector will have run thru it's leader film and be at the start of movie frames. So you then hit the changeover button. Typically, this would be a new scene so it just looks like a scene change.
@@techy5025 Cues are roughly 8 seconds and 1 second, besides that you are right. But there are actually quite a few films that have reel changes mid scene, sometimes even in Dialogue.
Whatever happened to Projectormatic - auto changeover system?
I heard about a projectionist, who wants to take a nap. When rolling the movie to the reel, he placed a coin one minute before the end, so the falling coin fell into the fire proof drum, makes a noise, wakes him up for change over.
@@robfriedrich2822 I heard that in a episode of Columbo, I think the name of the episode was Double Exposure.
Love watching this, thanks
The Distributors have decided against bringing in even a couple of 35mm prints let alone 70mm for NewZealand cinemas who still can screen film... even when a group of cinemas offer to pay for freight...
I had no idea newer movies still came on film. I thought it was all basically glorified streaming these days. Lol.
Nope still making it and a few film directors needed film to make there films
If the film is shot digitally at least 1 or 2 film prints are struck for alternative preservation methods sometimes they’re made at the request of the producers or director most of these newer prints never see the light of day in a theater but sometimes arthouse theaters get lucky to see them.
Also a few directors got together with Kodak since they're the last ones to make the film and they sign some sort of agreement Quentin Tarantino was one of those directors along with Spielberg and Christopher Nolan
Scott Luther depending on the quality of the film stock used a single frame of film has a native resolution of 8K with 70mm film stock having a native resolution of between 16-20K depending on the quality. But yeah I believe 8K will probably be the last time the industry try’s to sell resolution as a must have cause at this point it’s just adding pixels for pixels sake at least for the home market it’s pretty much overkill. Unfortunately I just don’t see shooting on film being around much longer the industry is so personally invested in digital at this point the war to allow artists to film how they want to is pretty much gone.
Trapped In Time yeah I remember that deal basically a fleet of artists ensured that at least for the rest of their careers they wouldn’t have to be told to shoot digitally. It’s weird we don’t tell painters to paint with a tablet but the film industry is so quick to tell an artist how their work should be filmed. It’s a bummer.
I'm lucky to be able to see this in 35mm next week at the Light House Cinema in Dublin. Can't Wait!
How can I find out where else there'll be 35mm screenings of The Lighthouse? Didn't see anything on A24's website.
@@juanvalenzuela1183 No Light House is the name of the cinema, I didn't mean the film. That film isn't out for a good while yet.
Thanks. @@lukeflanagan1796
amazing,here in argentina we lost 35mm film,is all digital crap.the only film is old super 8mm movies in my home.I miss film in cinemas,today I watch all movies in home.theaters are no longer live in my life since film missing.
film is real cinema,digital is for loosers.
Digital has it's place. But for very large screens and for a big wow factor, you can't match 70mm IMAX and 35mm films.
@@spydergs07 digital is only a big hd tv for home, film look more real and is real cinema,that i think
Totally agree, but i still need that big boy screen... even if i have a projector and a five meter wide wall, that's not enough for me.
True
Esa falsedad digital que la que mencionas dependerá enteramente de los técnicos del cine y la calibración que le den al proyector, he visto proyectores qué se asemejan bastante a la calidad de una cinta de 35mm si están bien calibradas. Sólo por ser digital no significa que sea una abominación hacia la magia del cine y esas cosas al fin de cuentas es entretenimiento XD
Thanks for the insight! always wondered how all this takes place behind the scene.
Thanks for share this!
Man you should come to Italy to the Arcadia Theater to check out the best theatre in Europe that still projects in 35mm and IMAX
Thanks for sharing this! Love real film prints. Funny how things changed. A few years ago digital was considered better, now film is the real thing. I agree with the latter. Film (a quality print that is) is simply gorgeous to look at, as it should be.
Yeah mostly General Managers and Other Movie Theater higher ups or just anyone making some kind of money preferred Digital lol. They get bigger bonuses and save money. Not sure what the future will be like with movie theaters during the shutdown but the digital technology will remain. In the 2010s we saw the very tail end of film and it just decreased. Now in the 2020s that fad I think is over with(Well in mainstream theaters of course). If you want to see film only art houses probably. Sorry long response lol
Digital is only better in the sense of cost and convenience. 35mm film is roughly equivalent to 4K, which digital has reached, but the larger film formats have no digital equivalent.
I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a movie on the big screen projected in film! I’ve always wanted to though. Only problem, No theater where I live does any of that.
Every theater in the world before 2010 was all film. Any movie you saw before mid 2010 was all film, so chances are you saw a bunch projected on 35mm.
Former projectionist here. Interesting sound head. Never seen one like that.
I want it on dvd but we have to wait till it comes out
Weirdman so...did you get it on DVD?
So cool to see how it's done. What a maze that film has to go through. Keep up the content! I wanna know more trade/tech stuff. Is the film projector bulb brighter than the digital one? Do you have to adjust focus in-between movies? Also that repetitive noise can't be good for you in the long run :)
Amazing!!! Love your channel bro!! Always wanted to know how someone becomes a projectionist! Do you have a video on that?
Looks just a little bit more complicated than my old 1970's Bell & Howell Super 8 projector! LOL., Thanks very much for sharing this video with us! Take it ez, Tom in NV
Watching you thread that Kinoton head kind of hurt. I operated 14 of those a day for 10 years. I know the most efficient way to thread one.
After running reel to reel and leaving plenty of slack on the take up side, Set the frame in the Gate first, Close the gate. Thread take up path and around the sound house and set bottom loop. Thread feed path last, set top loop. Done.
Yes it was a bit annoying. I only ran those starting in 2019 and realized they have sensetive censors. I unfortunately left that job in 2020 due to the Pandemic.
Fight Club reference at 7:50 👌
pure magic
I was shocked to see fast 8 & IT chapter 1 both shot in 35mm when I saw the movie at my local cinemas here in Australia with my sister
I thought film stock got phased out years ago, it's good to know old school techniques are still being used in the art of film making obviously it's cheaper than digital transfer movies
thanks for uploading this!
Wow, this is Schneider Krueznach Super Cinelux 2x MC Anamorphic Lens. Now I know where is belong.
Platter systems can be used in might of change overs
Thats a pretty new film to have 35mm of however ive heard Tarantino likes physical film so he probably was happy to release it that way
I assume the audio is being read by that white box with the Dolby Digital logo on it (Kinoton?) - how do you sync the audio and video up as there must be a little bit of 'play' in the loops where the film is a little loose?
The film is running at 90 feet per minute. You don't notice a few sprocket holes difference.
The sound usually precedes the frame. Both analog and digital audio Because the sound reading head is behind the film gate
If the digital reader 5.1 Stay before the film gate Then can set a delay on the sound processor By entering the number of frames from the reader head to the film gate into the sound processor.
One of your vids randomly popped up on my feed, very weird bc my last name is also Leibowitz!
Pure gold
Wow man! So cool.
Wow. You gotta be on point to have this gig
Not in New York - just a member of the local union.
35mm Came Back :O
fascinating
Awesome
Imagine doing this real old school style with the old carbon lamphouses. I don't know if a carbon lamphouse could run a 6000' reel. 9 reels, a 3 hour movie. Plus the extra task of changing spent carbons.
I believe carbons can do 6000ft reels, but just barely, and you've gotta have the right ones
8:19 - Leonardo DiCaprio Pointing - a Meme born :)
I like to imagine nyan cats doing this every time I hit play on a RUclips video.
thx for this cool video
3:38 l saw Columbia pictures in 1980
Glad to see film again, in India its almost extinct ..
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Will you be showcasing Tenet in 70mm? I have yet to see a 70mm film in action! I missed out on Dunkirk but hopefully I can watch it on 70mm one day.
I have only ran 35mm and IMAX 70mm. Never ran 70mm, but I am sure it is similar to 35mm set up. For Tenet i will most likely be running IMAX 70mm
The80'sDIEHARD Studios That’ll be awesome. I have two films on 35mm, Wild Wild West & The Last Samurai, but would really like to see the format in an actual cinema setting again. Hoping there will at least be a theater in Georgia showing Tenet on 35/70/IMAX.
Gee I wonder why film is dying in favor of digital. What a pain.
Rob Gibson I think digital is extremely cheaper.
Rune in terms of quality too. It’s horrible.
I think there’s a resurgence in traditional film though.
If only they built movie houses that were solely dedicated to projecting 16, 35 and 70 mm films.
It’s convenience over quality.
Digital is just cheaper. That's it. Film is still just as high quality, 35mm (what you're seeing here) is roughly equivalent to 4K. And this isn't how film was normally run, instead you'd have all the reels spliced together onto a large horizontal reel called a platter. This allows the whole film to run completely unattended, without changeovers or rewinding. In fact, platters are what made multiplexes possible in the first place, when they're used a single projectionist can handle 10+ screens rather than just one or two.
So still the film formate is coming for show's?!! Or is it a special show?
I thought all projection was done with platters for the past 20 years.
Film has always been shipped on reels, and most of the archives today won't allow their prints to be spliced together on platters, so reel to reel is necessary if you run any older titles.
New prints nowadays aren’t even shipped on reels, they’re shipped on cores in cardboard boxes
In multiplexes, yes. They're what allow a single projectionist to run 10+ screens. When a movie is being shown only once or a small number of times, and has a dedicated projectionist, it's not worth the time to splice it together and break it down.
Amazing! I'm from brazil, nice job!
I’ve always been interested in the work of a film projectionist. Where does one get a start?
Kenneth Velasquez apply at your local theater
in a time machine
When you say 6K is that in 6K Picture quality or 6000 feet of film? Also why not use platter system. Or just go by change over cues.
I mean 6000ft.
Platter system is more a thing of the past ironically considering we are using reel to reel which is older lol. Platters are no ling used anymore to minimize any severe damages or un needed wear and tear on the film.
In terms of cues, unfortunately Once Upon A Time in Hollywood had no lab cues. Every theater that receives this print so no print had lab cues. We used grease pencil. Why we ran on 6k reels as suppose to the normal 2ks was to cut down the amount of changeovers due to other traffic of movies coming through the booth in regards to special shows and q&s with spotlight. We received permission from the studio use 6ks
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Anyone see both the 35 and 70mm of the film. I only saw the 70mm print at Cinerama and was wondering if anyone had an opinion as to what the difference is or quality is in comparison.
I did not see the 70mm version. I am sure it will be mi h brighter but the image will be blown up. The movie was shot in the 35mm format you see presented in the video.
Do you think this movie is better in 35mm? Cant decide which showing to go to
Yes, laser projectors are always dimmer. This is a bright picture.
icycleragon Without a doubt. See it on film if you can.
Movies should always be seen in the same format they were shot in, if at all possible. This was shot in 35mm.
What Lab Company printed this?
Not sure
I see there's a twist in the film when you rewind it - ever not done that so the film is back to front when projected? :)
The twist is to avoid the film rubbing up against the reel
How does the handover work though. I mean it should be frame perfect though, right? how does one accomplish that?
There are two cue marks on the film itself that show up on screen. The first is 8 seconds before the end, when you see it you start the projector with the new reel. The second one is 1 second before the end. When you see it, you pull the changeover lever, which simultaneously closes the dowser (blocks the light) on the projector with the old reel and opens the dowser on the projector with the new reel.
@@KingdaToro So, there's no guarantee to have it frame perfect?
@@boahneelassmal No, but it will be close enough. Typically, the break between reels will be at a scene change, in which case it will be indistinguishable if done correctly.
Would seeing this movie on 35mm two weeks after opening night still look good? The reason I ask is because I know the quality degrades every time you run the film print through a projector, I'm just not sure how fast it does. I'm planning on seeing it on 35mm this weekend but just want to make sure the film isn't going to look like shit because the print I'm going to see it on has been running since opening night (I think the theater I'm seeing it at has 3 screenings a day of this movie), and I doubt this theater has more than one print of the movie.
Yeah you would be fine. I mean you cant stop little specs of dirt or a very light base scratch get in the way. All movies before 2010 were on 35mm so you know what you are getting into. Yes theaters today do not have multiple prints of the same movie. Whatever they have that would be it.
@@the80sdiehard Awesome thanks! Haven't seen a movie on 35mm since I was in early high school so I can't wait! Heard watching this movie on actual film is the absolute best way to see it!
Why is there so many loops where the film? Is that for cooling and tension?
There are 2 main loops, upper and lower which are required for proper projection. Any other loops are either fail safes Incase the film breaks or digital sound pick drums. 35mm has 4 soundtracks.
(1) A stereo analog optical track. (2) A Dolby Digital track.
(3) A 7 channel SDDS Track
(4) A time code for DTS sound.
Normally each sound track reader has a bunch of loops to maintain proper tension on the film.
@@andrewbarnum5040 Thank You
@@andrewbarnum5040 I'm amazed that they managed to get three different competing digital sound systems sandwiched between and around the sprocket holes and retain the stereo optical tracks. Somewhere, I have several feet off of a reel of 'Ben Hur" that has the original 50's four channel magnetic sound tracks that were 'printed' on the film. I think three behind the screen and one surround. State of the art for the day!
@@techy5025 technically there are 2 digital soundtracks on the film. Dolby Digital has a QR code type thing between the sprocket holes providing 5.1 dolby digital sound. The second is SDDS which is 7.1 digital sound along with redundant data just incase the film needs to be repaired. Up to 10 frames can be cut out with no sound dropout.
The "third" soundtrack is really a time code as the audio is stored on a CD, not on the film. But still amazing they can store 2 digital soundtracks plus the stereo optical track.
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What happens if the film breaks mid show?
Although a late reply. I've delt with this back in the mid-late 90's on platter systems. Depending on why/how it broke you can re-splice the film back together really quick. However I have had issues where someone forgot to set the platter to payout to basically feed the film to the projector and it wraps around the center because the platter isn't moving and and breaks. In those cases you typically are cancelling that show, and usually the next one or starting it late to fix the film because you have to take the section that broke off the platter splice it back in, get it rewound back onto the receiving platter, re-splice it back to the where it originally broke, then payout the rest of the film to get it basically back all onto the one platter and threaded back up for the next show.
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What happen to the film footage once the movie not showing anymore in theater?
mailed back to the studio. they own the film. the theater just rents the usage.
@@jeffp.9369 Hmmm i see.. So all the theater in the world will send it back to the studio?
I wonder what my theater have to run the movie? Are they complex as this?
Some theaters have went almost full digital.
Some still have a few film rooms. Some still have full 70mm IMAX as well.
They've been digital since 2010. Before that, they ran platters. They're big horizontal reels that hold the whole movie spliced together. All you need to do is thread the projector and start it, they completely eliminate changeovers and rewinding.
Can you help me get the tape unjammed from my VCR?
DONT BREAK THE VCR ,,,,GENTLY CUT THE TAPE ,,,YOU MIGHT HAE TO OPEN THE CASING ,,,
*Plot twist: He inserted a different film in and have his partner lock down all the doors in the room and uses their machine gun on the crowds!*
You need mental help or you need a visit from law enforcement.
spydergs07 why?
@@spydergs07 It's a Tarantino reference, ass clown. Chill out.
Did you ever see the movie
Yes
What's the movie like in 35mm?
Obviously it’s gonna have some grain, but the picture quality is much more crisp than digital projection.
Why does the film need to run through so many rollers?
It keeps the film steady and moving along at the same speed so there isn't any drift.
Be kind, rewind.
Fingers on the film, no gloves? Cmon
It's Leader. You can thread up leader without gloves. Leader goes through wear and tear.
So Tarantino takes all that time to make a beautiful film, the production company spends all that money to create the prints and the first time the audience sees it your greasy fingerprints are all over it. Well done meatball.
The section of film I am touching is leader. Leader is attached to a film print to allow the projectionist to thread up through the projector and properly secure its run. Every projectionist threads up this way
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How about masking
What exactly are you asking about the Masking?
Hate kinoton projectors!