STAR GOOSEBERRY and the forbidden art of fruit scrumping.
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Episode: 763 Star Gooseberry
Species: Phyllanthus acidus
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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0:00-0:48 What is scrumping?
0:48-6:22 What does star gooseberry taste like?
6:22-8:51 Pickled star gooseberries (ma-yom)
8:51-12:06 Candied star gooseberries 
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Locals: "Oh you mean trash berries?"
Most people in Thailand don't mind if you take a handful of it. The tree is a prolific fruiter and the plant owner usually doesn't bother harvesting it because the fruit is so sour.
Growing up, I wouldn't pick fruit off a tree, but windfall apples were fair game in my eyes.
It seems like sour fruit should be harvested and cooked with sugar and perhaps spices to make a condiment sauce.
@@chancekahle2214 This tree is the exception. It produces huge amounts of fruit year round, it has no commercial value, and you can't eat much of it. I live in Thailand, and I grow fruit and veggies for my family as a hobby. I wouldn't be too happy if a stranger was taking my papayas or bananas, but mayom (star gooseberry) is fair game. It's impossible for a family to eat the fruit faster than the tree produces.
@@MrBenjigee Absolutely. It's one of those fruits you can give away quite often
Oh my that sounds like "cherry plums" from Northwest America.... we used them for clothing dye... they stained all that the juicy over ripe plums landed on. Kids too loved those sour things.
that is my favorite fruit in the world. I grew up sneaking into abandoned homes to pick them as a kid, and we used to eat them with a mixture of salt and chili powder. You don't get it here in california though. It seems like its not very popular commercially. Its easier if you press the fruit against a dish with salt and chili powder on it rather than trying to balance it on the fruit's surface. The amla has a bitter taste that turns sweet when you drink water, and its astringent in a different, stronger way. the star gooseberry is more sour and not bitter.
Have you checked your asian grocery stores? At least of the one near me has them in the pickled section.
Could you grow them in Cali?
You *could* have it, if you just brought in some [sanitized] seeds. It doesn't seem particularly invasive - but even if it was, if you're planting it in an urban setting, "invasive" just means more likely to survive the stresses of urban living. Plz don't spread a bunch of them in rural settings across the countryside, though...
salt and chili powder? that's like gross mexican candy
Scrumping is how I learned that supermarket apples are already old and that apples taste so different from one another when they are fresh off the tree. Neighbors didn't care or even give a thought about it in the orchard area of Colorado where I walked. The roadside trees shared apricots and plums too!
Imho it isn't stealing. it's called gleaning, and it's allowed
Apples taste a lot different from each other when you buy ones that are not in bags from the grocery store and buy individual, more expensive ones.
@@helixmoore7636 Scrumping and gleaning are two different things. Scrumping is stealing ripe fruit from the tree. Gleaning is collecting the leftovers from a field after harvest. When you say "it's allowed", the landowner will probably have a different opinion on that lol
They are a year+ old at grocery stores
It's legal to "scrump" in Santa Clara County. If it grows over public land or walkway, you can pick it and take it home. Same thing if a neighbor's tree grows over your fence, you're permitted to pick whatever grows on your side.
These are called “mayom” (มะยม) in Thai! It’s usually fine to scrump a reasonable amount of these from a tree here, and we _do_ eat these raw occasionally! At least children do.
scrumptious
Scrumpy is what we in the UK call rough cider (ie Home made /not professionally made) Scrumping = foraging (mainly apples) without permission
May you scrump, safely, forever! 50 points on a fine word choice.
4:05
That was the most satisfying, cartoonish crunch sound I think I've ever heard
"Hello police," "A crazy man is hanging around picking berries of my trees and videoing my bins"
In the US scrimping is legal in most states if the fruit is hanging over public property or property that you own! So if you’re going for a little stroll and see some fruit peeking over a fence above a sidewalk, go for it!
In some warmer cities in the US where there are a lot of fruit trees you can find guided urban foraging tours where they’ll take you around to knock mangos off of trees or pick dragon fruits from cactuses that people use as sidewalk fences.
@@noobkin997it's also legal in Thailand. It's just that the person who planted the tree is just going to be a wee bit annoyed for the day. So, at least be a bit courteous and ask the person who planted the tree for it before you starts picking them here.
I live in a small town. This was in our weekly call log from the police department. Someone called the police on a guy who just wanted some free chestnuts!
Hey, another fun fact about ma-yom. In the past, parents and teachers traditionally used ma-yom branch as a disciplinary stick. The branch flexibility and slim shape made it popular. A hit from this branch is painful but quickly fade.
I remember when you scrumped a sea grape from a little birdie. ;)
Nice. We have them here in Guyana, South America also. We just call them Gooseberry though. It makes a nice jam.
Many people that own fruit trees dont't actually care about the fruits, and if you ask they might give you all, provided you pick by yourself
I actually do mind. If someone asks, I’m almost always willing to share, but I really hate it when people come into my yard and take fruit off my trees. I try to grow as much as possible to feed our family through the year. People commonly stole our cherries, damaging the tree and it became infested with borers as a result of that damage. I lost my tree to borers.
@@shannonrobinson262 Some farmers in my country put up signs saying that stealing will be reported to the police. The farmers don't mean it as a threat, but just to let people understand how serious it is. And most people get the message.
One crab apple owner said he wished I could take the tree! I did too.... he cut it down not long after.
One thing if it's hanging over the street or walkway and dropping fruit (or nuts) into public space, another entirely if you have to walk into someone's yard to get it. I once had a woman send her child up across 10+ feet of our yard to pick some of our meyer lemons. The kid wasn't having much success, so she left whatever she was pushing on their walk at the street level and came up to pick herself. This tree grew right outside our kitchen window, so as soon as she came up and started getting her hands in the tree, I knocked on the window and said hello. She got startled and ran off, but I opened the window and called out "just ask next time!" as they were running off.
Yes, normally a fruit tree will produce more than someone needs, but wandering into someone's yard, for whatever reason, isn't the most neighborly thing. Especially if you then go rifling through someone else's plants.
Gardeners love to share, give them the chance to do it by choice.
Out on the sidewalk, or landscaping in a parking lot? Totally different story
When I was younger, I used to sometimes go on 32-mile walks through my city.
At the northern end of this walk, just before leaving the city limits and getting into the next county, there would be a house with an apple tree that had some branches hanging over the fence, and I'd often grab a rock or windfall apple to throw at the good apples, and knock one or two down for lunch.
Never knew that there was a name for it, but I have to admit that "scrumping" does have a nice ring to it.
Anyway, I think that I might have to look out for the star gooseberry at one of the local Asian or Hispanic markets, as it does sound pretty interesting.
It's a word from England, still used in the countryside here
Hello from Trinidad and Tobago!
We call them sour cherries here, we eat them raw ( not too many at a time) and we make something called a "chow" which is like a seasoned salad usually made with allot of pepper. The "chow " can be eaten either fresh or age (pickled). We pickle it either by leaving the chow in a jar in the sun, for a few days or buried for longer ( 1-2 months). We also candied fruit and jam from it.
sounds great!
@@WeirdExplorer Dude, have you ever tried or heard of false Solomon seal berries?
I didn’t realise people aged chow underground. I love cucumber and mango chow
I live in central NJ and many years ago, (I think it closed in 1994, right when I first moved here when I was eight,) there used to be an apple store called Scrumpy's. It was in Skillman NJ. They had all different kinds of apple stuff that they made like cider and candies. I think they also had an orchard where they grew them. I always wondered why it was called that. I always assumed it must have something to do with making alcohol, even though I'm pretty sure they didn't cell alcoholic cider. Unfortunately, I only got the chance to go there once before it closed. They had this apple gummy or fruit leather type candy that was so good and I wish I could get again. I've never found anything like it anywhere else.
You were right in your assumptions about the relation of the name to alcohol. In the UK (south west, or "West Country" in particular) Scrumpy is the name for homemade, usually quite rough and boozy alcoholic cider. It's usually made from whatever apples are on hand if you have a tree (or could be pilfered from a neighbour or orchard if you didn't, hence the term "scrumping").
I love how you know that you struggle with hot pepper, but you still add chili to fruit.
I’d just add garlic powder instead
Scrumping. Reminds me of the concept of usufruct. There are a lot of common law meanings, implications and derivations but it is generally socially acceptable to scrump fruit hanging over a public place so long as one doesn't cause damage or get too greedy. What a great word.
Scrumping is probably my favorite way of obtaining fruit.
One of my favourite fruits. We used to have this gooseberry tree and an amla tree... It's best with salt and chilli powder and the seed can be chewed and eaten too.
I gave this a thumbs up for the mere fact that dude taught me a new word. "Scrump" 😂
I've been watching your channel on and off ever since 2014, when i was 14 (i was born in 2000), and wow, it's apparently been 10 years, how the years fly by! You are the main person responsible for getting me interested in plants and botany, and influencing me to get my degree in biology! thanks!!
scrumpin'
It's scrumpin' time!
It always have been confusing to me if scrumping is OK or not. I feel like it depends on the local traditions... I did it in some places and it was totally fine, but in others, people looked at me weird (I have never been in trouble for doing this though).
Also didn't know that there is an English word for this)
I think the biggest factor is how much you take because taking a single fruit won't bother most people. Though if you can ask that's probably always best.
If a food providing plant is placed near public areas it's likely intended to be shared. Just don't hurt my plants or take all my fruits!
I think it's fine and whiners need shut it. You're not going onto their property. If the fruit is growing past the line then it's fine
@@helixmoore7636 I think my tree costs a lot of money yearly to upkeep and that if you're not going to be respectful of my property then you can get fucked.
This has traditionally been called "gleaning" in English, but gleaning also refers to picking up stuff that is both on and off the property.
Just need to make a Miracle Fruit and Star Gooseberry jam/jelly/all fruit - and you will have an enjoyable fruity experience.
miraculin isn't very stable, but if you had both plants and they happened to be ripe at the same time, it would be great.
Having miracle fruit and a sour fruit at the same exact time doesn't really work. You have to have the miracle fruit first from my experience.
@@gatorbait9385 then plow some stevia onto the product - and that should restrain the majority of the acidity for a sweet and sour experience.
In sweden it is called "palla," I do love that there are separate verbs for stealing fruit...
in our region in the philippines its local name is "karamay". riper ones are yellow and sometimes they are pickled in salt and vinegar.
Here it's called 'ciremai', 'cerme', or 'cermai. '
Would this be a good salsa fruit? Since people are saying to eat it with salt, the next step seems like turning it into a taco topping.
😮 And to think you were going to be my Best man at my wedding, I can not have a wanted criminal at the event 😂😂
I’m from St.Lucia and we make jam with them I guess similar to the candied one and it’s amazing
Noticed the new upload timing this week. Good on you for early rising.
I guess this video is likely to be my only experience with star gooseberries, but it's a good one. Thanks for sharing the wide world with us
Interesting video, love sour foods.. hope i can come across some someday
I've sidewalk scrumped mulberry, sour cherry, apples, and cornelian cherry. Fun times
I stayed in a small town where passion fruit grew all over and people would rarely use it and no one sold it anywhere.
My favorite fruit and the only way I could get it was scrumping. Asking permission got the same reaction as knocking on someone’s door to ask if you could eat their weeds.
This is understandable given passion fruit is the most disgusting thing in the history of ever
I enjoyed this! Thank you
I just discovered this channel and it’s already in my top 10!
welcome aboard
I'll be honest, I'm a dirty filthy scrumper! So many people around me grow fruit that never gets eaten... and somehow it turns out to be some of the best fruit I've ever had! Apples, asian pears, plums, cherries, raspberries, black berries, and even a crazy diverse array of grapes! SO good I'd pay way over the supermarket price for these if I could, but I can't as no one's selling or minding it at all. Mind blowingly good fruit that outshines the best I've ever purchased at a super market.
So instead, here I am with my devious guilty pleasure
What a coincidence, i saw a post related to this fruit yesterday and had googled what it’s called in English. Had this once when i was little. Sour when green. The leaves is similar to “iba” or “kamias”, so i thought these are just circular “iba”.
Yes, these are iba. Looks like he picked them green. Iba get plumper and usually have four sides with two lobes per side. I am from Guam and wonder how you came across iba?
You must have a video on the governor's plum by now already (think that's the name, only know them in Thai). Those are everywhere in the city. Best ones are on rangsit U campus, used to eat them all the time on my way to class.
i found your channel right after i ate my first rambutan in bangkok. (2016-17) still going and well i see.
In here this fruit called as "Cermai", quite a rare find nowadays😢
SCRUMPS! SCRUMPS! A toast for the home! One grander by far then a palace in Rome! Let me fill up that glass! Your glass is all foam! SCRUMPS! SCRUMPS! SCRUUUUMPS!!!!
here in colombia they sell it outside of schools and we eat it with salt and lime, also the same with green mango
I live in Portland Oregon. In this area, scrumping is simply called foraging. Anything overhanging s public access area is free game, as are harvestables on non-private land - like apples in a park.
Star gooseberry a delightful tropical fruit with a unique tartness that adds a burst of flavor to any dish. Its star-shaped appearance makes it not only visually appealing but also a conversation starter. Growing it in your backyard must be a rewarding experience, as it offers not just fruit but also a touch of tropical charm to your home. Enjoy the bounty of nature's goodness right at your doorstep!my backyard star gooseberry and other fruit garden looks like a tropical paradise! 🌟 Adding a sprinkle of salt and pepper to these tangy treats is a game-changer, enhancing their flavor profile in the most delightful way. Your video content showcasing this exotic fruit is making my taste buds tingle with excitement! If you're ever up for an adventure, I'd love to invite you to visit my backyard fruit garden, where we can explore and taste an array of exotic fruits together. Love from Bangladesh 🍇
Here in the philippines in my village we call that karamay,we eat that raw with or without salt,it can be used for cooking as souring ingredient, my grandmother used to cooked it with little water and sugar to give a sweet and sour taste or soak it with water with salt in a jar
The candied variety was a childhood school snack. We pickle them in vinegar and salt for fish dishes, or just for that tangy sour feel. One of my most favourite fruits. ❤
They sell fresh star gooseberries here at the Cambodian markets in Long Beach with the chile and salt like you ate it with.
Looks kinda like a green Surinam cherry!
Scrumpy is the name of a very popular cider here in New Zealand 👍
There is a beer called Anderson Valley that uses a Gose, which I believe is similar or the same family as the Gooseberry.
Wanted to say this is one of the best beers I’ve ever had due to the sourness from the Gose. And I have grown to hate most of what I used to like in respect to alcohol. But this was worth mentioning to me because it’s an amazing beer. Thanks for the review Jared as always. One of my favorite channels to follow
One of my favorite fruit.
We called it "orboroi" in Bangladesh
As a kid in the UK in the 1960s there was a scrumping season- mostly for apples. Cider in our region is/was known as scrumpy, and cider minus alcohol is called apple juice.
Jared is living the life. Great job man. Never stop. These videos always make my day. Love it.
Where I live, there are a lot of apples, figs, cherries, and plums that are super easy to scrump! So much fun & tasty.
In Vietnam we eat the leaves of this tree by boiling it with a little bit of garlic. Absolutely delicious! Here they call it "rau ngót" it has a mild and slightly sweet taste almost like spinach
It is so hilarious seeing you eat sour fruit
In Puerto Rico, we call them grosellas. Haven’t eaten one since a kid!
Another fruit i love to eat with chilli paste due to how sour it was! I dip it in sauce made from Sugar,Shrimp paste,Salt,Fish sauce, A lot of chilli and Optionally, crushed Toasted rice!
We call these "gindas" in el salvador 🇸🇻 they're really sour I love them
We have them in South India. A lot of us eat it with salt and chilli powder, but pickles are more common
first of your vids that made me sigh and utter, 'oh ffs'
It is also very popular in South America. It is call Grosellla there and my mom loved eating it when she grew up in Ecuador.
There's star gooseberry in the Yucatán Peninsula too, we called it grosella, and people growth it in their home yard and backyard and consume it too: raw with salt and chili and preserved in sugar syrup, at least in Yucatán, we eat a lot of fruits in salt and chili, especially if it is slightly unripped: Mango, Guayaba, nanchen (Byrsonima crassifolia) , ciruela (Spondias purpurea L.) and yes Grosella (Phyllanthus acids) wich apparently is the same from Asia.
Thank you for the another interesting video.
PS. At least here in my home city if someone see a flower or fruit and over the fence of a home they take it as long as they don't damage the tree/plant, or they call the owner of the house and ask permission to take it, almost always people won't reject.
We call it gimbilin ( not sure of the spelling) I love it w salt😊
Called sour cherries in Trinidad and Tobago, used to make various jams or "achar" or "chow" - a type of quick pickle with salt, black pepper, garlic, hot pepper, culantro and an acid like vinegar or citrus juice
as a youth in england scrumping was the favoured participation sport in late summer and autumn.
Cermai!!!!! We had a small tree laden with fruit at school. Once in awhile i scrumped a plastic bag full, went home, washed, chopped some chillies, put them all in a bowl, add soy sauce, take a pestle and roughly crushed the fruit and chillies in the soy sauce.
my local asian grocery stores actually sell the candied stuff in jars. never knew what it was until now
Hey Jared!
The 5 o'clock shadow doesn't look bad on you. Have you ever tried letting it grow out? Maybe get a bit of goatee action going? Or perhaps an evil twin stache? Might be fun for a video or two. ^_^
The Norwegian term for scrumping is "slang", usually combined with apples, as in "epleslang". And the Swedish term is "palla", which is just a slang term for stealing in general.
In Southern California it seems everyone has fruit trees in their yard and the many of those branches would carry across property lines. It was routine and expected that one would taken an orange, lemon, avocado, apricot, apple, figs, pears, etc. Honestly, as kids we would often use hard avocados as "baseballs" and smash the heck of them with aluminum bats! Can you imagine??? We also had a neighbor who grew cheremoya which we thought was "weird" and would avoid them... now they are among my most favorite fruits and among the most expensive to buy!
Oh i remember eating those as a kid. Cant remember where i scrumped them from though.
You saved that fruit's life!!
I have a couple of these growing from seed I got in Waimea Kauai. They pickle them. Just like Bilimbi.
Here is an idea. Dry some out and then make a homemade vinegar out of it. Raisins make a great vinegar so who knows this might as well. Thanks for the video!
Great idea!
If you ever get the chance in Thailand, one of the best preparations in my opinion is in Som Tum, it's delicious and really leverages the tartness
I'm a fruitcake fan, so I might enjoy the candied version. There are a few very large pan-Asian supermarkets in my area. Perhaps one of them has some of these candied gooseberries. Thanks for taking one for the team on the pickled version. So sad. I'm sure they are delicious when pickled without all the preservatives.
Nice video and person
Scrumping is a great past time.
We call it ceremai here in indonesia . Usually we boil it with sugar to make a candy
Sounds like it would make a nice jam or something... something with a lot of sugar to offset the sourness anyway :)
Have you tried comparing banana varieties? Back in the 1990s, I ate a banana, variety unknown, straight from a tree growing in Florida. Wow. The most complex flavor I have ever tasted in any fruit. Unbelievable. Way, way more complex than a typical banana from the store.
Could be good for soup.. In Philippines there is a thing called bilimbi (I would also call “pias”) and use it in soups
I despise the Mayom tree my girlfriend has planted in the front yard of the house. At the end of the rainy season it drops 90% of its leaves and small branches , making a mess for me to clean up. I've been successful in removing all of the high maintenance plants from our property but she will not even discuss removal of the "Good Luck" tree. 😢
Can definitely say that title has never been used on youtube or anything else before
Hmmm... Interesting. That's what I say to my wife. "Let's scrump!" 😂
Gooseberry sounds kinda crunchy, the ones we have here are very sour, crunchy, and grassy tasting when unripe, but become progressively sweeter as they ripen. The star ones might be the same.
One day, when you run out of edible fruits to try, you could begin exploring the world of inedible ones. Taste but don't swallow it. Forbidden fruit series 🤣
Today I learned what scrumping is lol
I'm from Trinidad and grew up eating these.
In the U.S. you see the the Thai pickled Star Goosberries in West Indian stores, but I've never tried them.
I also grew up eating another fruit that kind of looks similar but is botanically completely unrelated called Acerola [Cherry] (Malpighia emarginata).
I believe both are candied, my family usually candied the latter and made 'chow' with the Star Gooseberry. (Salt, hot pepper, garlic, culantro [bandhaniya, recao etc.)
There's another fruit that looks similar too called Suriname Cherry but is also unrelated (Eugenia uniflora).
If you can reach it feom the sidewalk without going through a fence, or over a wall, to me it's fair game. I've seen people pick my apples, my quince, my figs from the sidewalk and it never bugged me. Have a fresh fruit! Why not?
scrumping is the word of the day
I have a papershell pecan tree and people come take them all the time. I don't mind.
Where I live, it's legal to take fruit from someone else's plant if it's hanging over the sidewalk or other public property.
Used for sour fruit sauce for fish.
Look like you eating young not fully ripe yet also that sour one , it had the sweet too . These are my childhood fruits in viet nam 30 yrs ago
i used to harvest these by the handful as a kid and my brother and i used to have a competition for who would pucker the first
I use to scrump apples, peaches, plumbing, pairs, cheries.. lol if it's in reach, it's my peach!