Eley are really popular here in UK, one of their most popular loads I can think of is known as Eley “Alphamax.” It’s a 2 3/4” 36gram No.4 and is the go to cartridge here for fox shooting.
Great video! Bournaghi still makes paper shells, somewhere I have a few 10rd boxes of "Paper Pigeon" 7.5 shot, they are orange and they are high brass. I don't recall the velocity but they are heavy hitters and pattern really good. I got them from Able Ammo.
@theshotgunscientists yes they are. My wife's shotgun patterns # 7.5's better than #4 shot and with a turkey choke she has knocked alot of squirrels out of high altitude oak trees with those Paper Pigeon shells. Keep doing your thing man, there's alot of people interested your content. 👍🏻
Winchester heavy and mag loads still used those type wads well into the late 90's maybe early 2k's I don't remember, but they always had the paper soda crown gas seal followed by hard and soft cards of required thickness. I don't know about British shells, but vintage American shells had a smaller battery cup primer. When I started loading shotshells there were three American sizes of battery cup primers still on shelves and there was of course no standard primer size until they got together and standardized the 209. You could have a primer that was the exact size of 209, but had a different number too. I still have a few boxes of non standard primers that I bought many year ago and some old hulls as well.
Can you do a video on short barrel shot guns...whats your opinion, whats the good and bad. What/how does length affect spread, power and range? My want/wish is for the tac14 for example to reach yards, with a 2-3' spread using BB or BBB. Something that would stop a large bird, moving at high velocities. Is that possible?
Longer barrels only effect velocity, not patterns. They can help slug accuracy too just due to having a longer sight radius. Will will do a video on long vs short barrels but it’ll be 10 gauge because I have a 36” barrel and a 23” barrel for the same gun and they have exactly the same choke size.
Judging by the age and how the birdshot is oxidized I’d sayThe dill pickle smell is most likely a result of the primer and powder breaking down over time.. I’ve never experienced dill but have smelled some strong strange odors from old powders.
If it was possible I would send old stuff to you guys. But I better not even try. Just got a box of 410 ammo and I just destroed it and collected the shots from them.
At 2:05 I said paper hulls, I meant plastic.
Eley are really popular here in UK, one of their most popular loads I can think of is known as Eley “Alphamax.” It’s a 2 3/4” 36gram No.4 and is the go to cartridge here for fox shooting.
Wish they were available here
Eley was once owned by ICI (Imperial Chemical Industries) and they are the initials by the wavy part on the bottom of the cartridge.
Thanks for the info
Huh, I didn't know Eley loaded shotshells. Only really thought of them for precision rimfire stuff. Great video bud!
Eley makes even 8 and 4 gauge to this day. Really cool company.
@theshotgunscientists huh, good to know.
Great video! Bournaghi still makes paper shells, somewhere I have a few 10rd boxes of "Paper Pigeon" 7.5 shot, they are orange and they are high brass. I don't recall the velocity but they are heavy hitters and pattern really good. I got them from Able Ammo.
Paper shells are so cool
@theshotgunscientists yes they are. My wife's shotgun patterns # 7.5's better than #4 shot and with a turkey choke she has knocked alot of squirrels out of high altitude oak trees with those Paper Pigeon shells. Keep doing your thing man, there's alot of people interested your content. 👍🏻
Winchester heavy and mag loads still used those type wads well into the late 90's maybe early 2k's I don't remember, but they always had the paper soda crown gas seal followed by hard and soft cards of required thickness. I don't know about British shells, but vintage American shells had a smaller battery cup primer. When I started loading shotshells there were three American sizes of battery cup primers still on shelves and there was of course no standard primer size until they got together and standardized the 209. You could have a primer that was the exact size of 209, but had a different number too. I still have a few boxes of non standard primers that I bought many year ago and some old hulls as well.
All true info there.
The headstamp says ICI = Imperial Chemical Industries, a company that was founded in 1926 and ceased to exist in 2008. Definitely a vintage shell.
There’s an answer I was hoping to get.
Awesome vid man.. have you done a break down on one of them old 6c SuperSpeed W’s yet??
Sure did
Can you do a video on short barrel shot guns...whats your opinion, whats the good and bad. What/how does length affect spread, power and range? My want/wish is for the tac14 for example to reach yards, with a 2-3' spread using BB or BBB. Something that would stop a large bird, moving at high velocities. Is that possible?
Longer barrels only effect velocity, not patterns. They can help slug accuracy too just due to having a longer sight radius. Will will do a video on long vs short barrels but it’ll be 10 gauge because I have a 36” barrel and a 23” barrel for the same gun and they have exactly the same choke size.
@@theshotgunscientists thanks
To me nothing smells as good as a fired paper shotgun shell.
Truth
Judging by the age and how the birdshot is oxidized I’d sayThe dill pickle smell is most likely a result of the primer and powder breaking down over time.. I’ve never experienced dill but have smelled some strong strange odors from old powders.
Powder actually smelled fine really strong black pepper smell
It is illegal over here to have ammunition i yoy dont have a gun for it.
Some laws are pretty ridiculous
Put it back together and fire it!!🎉🎉
I’m keeping it
If it was possible I would send old stuff to you guys. But I better not even try. Just got a box of 410 ammo and I just destroed it and collected the shots from them.
How did you destroy them