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I’m also a Survivor of Thalidomide and thought I’m much younger I have had a horrible time managing to get to go to regular school and not being able to work due to my disability and the discrimination of just my physical appearance. I have fought through life to accomplish as much as I could and if nothing else to prove others wrong. I just wanted to thank you for highlighting your mom and telling everyone just what a disabled person can do.
I am also disabled and I think you're an amazing woman. Thank you for sharing this story. I've always been interested in the thalidomide story. Wanted to hear from real survivors. You deserve to have your voices heard.
My mom was offered the thalidomide drug when she was pregnant with me - by then the news of birth defects with the drug were reported and she refused it - I was very young when she told me that story and understood it - this is a moving and inspiring story - thumbs up from Ottawa, Canada 🇨🇦
I'm not from USA, I had no idea what Thalidomide was, I'm 99% certain I'll never meet you or your family in person but I still watched till the end and got really invested in your/your mom's story. This was great, keep up the good work.
Wow. randomly got this recommended and this is really hearttouching. i’ve always heard of thalidomide poisoning but to see that it wasn’t a hinder is amazing. i myself am currently studying graphic design and this is so inspirational! tell your mom hi from us!💜💜
So thankful that the RUclips algorithm brought me here, this is absolutely beautiful and one of the most wonderful gifts you could give to the amazing person who is your mother. She has to be one of the most incredible people I've ever gotten to learn about, and one of the best mothers. As someone who is disabled and doesn't have a good mother (who I haven't spoken with in over a decade,) mother's day is something that's lost meaning to me. It's really healing for me to learn about good parents, especially mothers, who have given their children a loving, supportive upbringing. And your mother did so much more than that; just hearing her adult children speak truly shows what an amazing parent she is and what wonderful gifts she's given to her children. Thank you for sharing this amazing woman with us and please give her a hug for me ❤
This is beautiful. I had to share it around, especially with my own mom. Your mom is a thalidomide survivor, but that isn't ALL she is. She sounds wonderful.
your mom is a star shineing so bright that she lights up the right path for several ppl ... she is so strong and able that im takeing nots for my own life ... your documentation about your mom enabled me to have hope in humans once more .... im sad ... i need to look on things more like her ...
Andy, thank you for this beautiful family story and advocacy for those disabled by thalidomide. I remember that tragic scandal very well. Your mother is remarkable - no wonder all her children are smart, creative and funny. The love you and your family have for your mother is, I think, the centerpiece of this film. Her disability almost disappears in it. You're a superb documentarian. Keep going!
Today you should be 100 times more wary of pharmaceuticals that exist only to get rich. I was 19 when I was pregnant in the 60s. This wasn't unusual. We were young and trusting. Doctors were not working for the money like today. An office visit was $4 if you had it. House calls were common and often free. You could have a baby in the hospital and doctor only charged $200--even for C-section. You can imagine that Doc wasnt seeing paying patients while he was delivering babies, assisting in surgeries, and doing house calls. We had every reason to trust good people who were serving communities for good intentions. We should all be so kind. Certainly these victims should be loved like anyone else. Thanks be for such a good son. He gets it from his mom.
The fact that this came out right after mother's day warms my heart. I know she must feel extremely loved this week you are an amazing son! This is an amazing story that needs to be told and definitely needs more exposure you and your mother are doing special work.
I don't know why RUclips graced me with this video but I'm glad it did. Your mom is so strong and loving.. it shows in your guys' demeanor. I'm going to buy that book, even though I had no idea what Thalidomide was until today.
Like thalidomide, DES also affected not the mother, but the children... I am a DES daughter, but luckily I only had the risks of GYN cancers, but not the cancers themselves. The USA owes an unspeakable debt to Dr Francis Kelsey, in her 1st month as the FDA head, who refused to ok the widespread release of this new drug!!
I was born in 1962 as well. Thank God my mother didn’t use it, but I have FAS bc my mother drank so much. I’m also physically disabled from a rare genetic disease. But I wasn’t diagnosed with either until almost age 60. I live in Oswego, NY, very close to Rochester. I was just there yesterday. Your mom is a rockstar!
Oh my goodness I do hope you can meet this lady and her family. But what does one do when they do not get. diagnosis? How have you managed? You too,have a story to tell. We found out why our lives were so difficult when my daughter went to college. She had always dreamt of being a journalist. Her teachers often told us how gifted she was in the area of writing and yet failed totally in mathematics and when it came to exam time forgot everything. She was a bit different and was bullied a LOT as well. Physically nothing seemed wrong. But at 25 she was guided to a Psychologists who diagnosed her with ADD inattentive type. He said she’d never be able to hold down a job and yes it’s been tough,even though she’s on meds. All through her childhood I did take her various doctors who were concerned and the schools laughed at me when I asked for testing. I also began to read anything I could find. Computers were just coming out and I wasn’t knowledgeable about their use. I also began to realize my husband shared many of the same traits. He was finally diagnosed at about age 65!!! He also had a brain injury we had never known of. Both are so forgetful, messy (hoarders if I had allowed it), unorganized and all that goes with it. My husband has been a successful farmer but I have found the stove left on at least 50 times and now in our 70’s he also leaves the water running. Equipment has been left running all night till they ran out of fuel. We live in northern rural Canada and medical care is sparse. This week alone our ER has been closed 4 days in a row. The next hospital is even smaller,50 miles away. Oops, I’m rambling. What I’m trying to say is that disabilities are not always visible,help is often not available and people are very judgmental. I don’t know why I picked on you, what I hope to get across is please don’t forget about the invisibles who are often forgotten.My daughter is a part time gardener and at 42 had a miracle baby,,,,,,,unfortunately she is autistic with ADHD. We love her.
This was really interesting! Your mom seems awesome (and she has great kids.) Also, people definitely stare at your sister because she's beautiful, lol.
Glad YT recced me this and I hope it gets more recognition and love from others too. Amazing video man, and very insightful. I'm sure your mum is very proud!
Only 10% of “thalidomide” babies survived-90% were either stillborn or died within a week of birth. Tons of research has been done & I believe in 2018 they figured out that it was 1 ingredient that caused all of the damage and they also now know that it only took 1 dose for the damage to happen-it’s kinda mind blowing that a mother didn’t have to take it multiple does nor for a long time. I believe at last count there was only 10k survivors from that 8-9 year period of it being on the market. And most people don’t realize that it affected more than a child’s limbs.
Such a well-done video and I'm so glad to have been given the opportunity to meet your family. It's really a gift to everyone to have this document and it'll be a beautiful keepsake through the years
I'm and Andy P. too! Thank you for sharing your mother's story, I have recently been finding out a lot about Thalidomide because I guess that's what RUclips has chosen to give me in the past few months but I am so glad I saw this. I am now on my way to go watch your mother's documentary. Thank you so much for sharing this video.
Really loved this documentary about your mom and thalidomide in general! When I started watching I didn’t expect to watch it til the end but it was very engaging and I’m amazed by both your skills and your wonderful mom. Your whole family actually seems really great and wholesome. I hope many more people will watch your video, I was actually really surprised by the low viewership compared to the care and effort that definitely went into making it. Love from Germany
What an inspiring woman. Wish her a mother's day from a whole bunch of us here whose mom's aren't physically present anymore. And happy mother's day for all of you mothers and motherly figures. Moms rock!
I didn’t know what thalidomide was until now. Thank you for making this video. You’re mother is such an amazing person! I look forward to watching the documentary!❤
What a REMARKABLE WOMEN with an awesome family and wonderful friends who love her so much. Appreciate that you put together this wonderful video to show case how awesome your mom is. Amazing How God is using her as an instrument that offers hope, love and laughter to so many around the world. GOD BLESS your MOM and Family as HE continue to make your Family a Blessing to all those you have the opportunity to reach out in such a Beautiful Way. Praise GOD for U tube so many worldwide can see what a terrific mom she is as she Celebrates each day sharing GOD'S JOY in so many ways.
i am so, so grateful to have been recommended this video. What a beautiful tribute to an incredible mum. i have chronic illnesses and honestly, i often let my pain and my status as "disabled" define me and what i can do. But your mother is so right; it's about how you look at it. Hearing you guys talk and laugh about her life as a whole, not just focusing on her limitations, was really moving. hoping that the next time i wake up and think "what's the point" when i'm faced with going to a lecture or getting stuck into an art project, i'll think of you guys :) ps. more people should make tributes like these for their living relatives. You can sense so much of the love and inspiration you have for hher from this video ❤❤
your mom is an amazing person who is so inspiring!!! thank you for sharing this with us. Im so surprised I never knew much about this, learning about it is crazy and im excited to see her film.
Your mom, what a beautiful woman. I was born in a littlt Mexico/US border town.. I think because we lived so rural and so poor is what saved us from this crime. Best wishes.
I was told about thalidomide by my boss when I was struggling with morning sickness in 1960. Miraculously I decided against taking the medication and my son who was born in March 1961 healthy. I have always had great sympathy for the children and the parents and horrified by the evil treatment of them by the pharmaceutical company firstly for the creation of the medication and secondly by the callas treatment of their victims. The individuals responsible for this evil will not escape God’s wrath on judgement day is a small consultation. My heart goes out to these fantastic people.🥰🙏🏽
I know it as "Softenon" I read a lot about Thalidomide which a know as Softenon, but why do I read nothing about the DES-hormoon. Given from 1947 till 1976. I am a DES daughter I was born in 1950 and ..... as a lot af DES-daughters and sons can not have children because of this medicine given to my mother. I look like a woman, I feel as a woman but ... as I always say ... my factory is empty and can have no children. I am 73 years old now, never ever had my "period" then only a little bit of oestrogene I have Osteoporose and artrose. But .... I am a happy woman and married with a lovely man for 48 year and he said: I am married with you because I love you and not to have children. Sometimes when I look how it is going in de world now, ... I am happy we have no children.
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I’m also a Survivor of Thalidomide and thought I’m much younger I have had a horrible time managing to get to go to regular school and not being able to work due to my disability and the discrimination of just my physical appearance. I have fought through life to accomplish as much as I could and if nothing else to prove others wrong. I just wanted to thank you for highlighting your mom and telling everyone just what a disabled person can do.
Great human being...
Amazing lady one is proud to have for a mother. God bless her.
I am also disabled and I think you're an amazing woman. Thank you for sharing this story. I've always been interested in the thalidomide story. Wanted to hear from real survivors. You deserve to have your voices heard.
My mom was offered the thalidomide drug when she was pregnant with me - by then the news of birth defects with the drug were reported and she refused it - I was very young when she told me that story and understood it - this is a moving and inspiring story - thumbs up from Ottawa, Canada 🇨🇦
What a beautiful Mother and story.......thank you for sharing her💜
Found this on Reddit on the documentary sub. Your Mom (and the other victims) will not be forgotten!
Incredibly moving. This is what a great family looks like.
This was a beautiful video honouring a beautiful woman, thank you for sharing
I'm not from USA, I had no idea what Thalidomide was, I'm 99% certain I'll never meet you or your family in person but I still watched till the end and got really invested in your/your mom's story. This was great, keep up the good work.
It’s more common in Europe than the USA. Esp Germany Great Britain and Australia
Wow. randomly got this recommended and this is really hearttouching. i’ve always heard of thalidomide poisoning but to see that it wasn’t a hinder is amazing. i myself am currently studying graphic design and this is so inspirational! tell your mom hi from us!💜💜
A beautiful, amazing, talented, intelligent, loving woman! I am happy to see this reaching so many viewers. This touched my heart.
Man, you're all so lucky to have such a strong and beautiful mom, bless your family
A remarkable and beautiful woman, thank you for this.
what a lovely and inspiring woman
So thankful that the RUclips algorithm brought me here, this is absolutely beautiful and one of the most wonderful gifts you could give to the amazing person who is your mother.
She has to be one of the most incredible people I've ever gotten to learn about, and one of the best mothers.
As someone who is disabled and doesn't have a good mother (who I haven't spoken with in over a decade,) mother's day is something that's lost meaning to me. It's really healing for me to learn about good parents, especially mothers, who have given their children a loving, supportive upbringing. And your mother did so much more than that; just hearing her adult children speak truly shows what an amazing parent she is and what wonderful gifts she's given to her children.
Thank you for sharing this amazing woman with us and please give her a hug for me ❤
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I agree! ❤
Heart warming to have this family share their lives with us.
This is beautiful. I had to share it around, especially with my own mom. Your mom is a thalidomide survivor, but that isn't ALL she is. She sounds wonderful.
your mom is a star shineing so bright that she lights up the right path for several ppl ... she is so strong and able that im takeing nots for my own life ... your documentation about your mom enabled me to have hope in humans once more .... im sad ... i need to look on things more like her ...
Andy, thank you for this beautiful family story and advocacy for those disabled by thalidomide. I remember that tragic scandal very well. Your mother is remarkable - no wonder all her children are smart, creative and funny. The love you and your family have for your mother is, I think, the centerpiece of this film. Her disability almost disappears in it. You're a superb documentarian. Keep going!
Your mom is a warrior. 🦁
Beautiful lady! Beautiful family!
Today you should be 100 times more wary of pharmaceuticals that exist only to get rich. I was 19 when I was pregnant in the 60s. This wasn't unusual. We were young and trusting. Doctors were not working for the money like today. An office visit was $4 if you had it. House calls were common and often free. You could have a baby in the hospital and doctor only charged $200--even for C-section. You can imagine that Doc wasnt seeing paying patients while he was delivering babies, assisting in surgeries, and doing house calls. We had every reason to trust good people who were serving communities for good intentions. We should all be so kind. Certainly these victims should be loved like anyone else. Thanks be for such a good son. He gets it from his mom.
The fact that this came out right after mother's day warms my heart. I know she must feel extremely loved this week you are an amazing son! This is an amazing story that needs to be told and definitely needs more exposure you and your mother are doing special work.
I don't know why RUclips graced me with this video but I'm glad it did. Your mom is so strong and loving.. it shows in your guys' demeanor. I'm going to buy that book, even though I had no idea what Thalidomide was until today.
Like thalidomide, DES also affected not the mother, but the children... I am a DES daughter, but luckily I only had the risks of GYN cancers, but not the cancers themselves. The USA owes an unspeakable debt to Dr Francis Kelsey, in her 1st month as the FDA head, who refused to ok the widespread release of this new drug!!
Great story and very insightful. Well done 👏
I was born in 1962 as well. Thank God my mother didn’t use it, but I have FAS bc my mother drank so much. I’m also physically disabled from a rare genetic disease. But I wasn’t diagnosed with either until almost age 60. I live in Oswego, NY, very close to Rochester. I was just there yesterday. Your mom is a rockstar!
Oh my goodness I do hope you can meet this lady and her family. But what does one do when they do not get. diagnosis? How have you managed? You too,have a story to tell. We found out why our lives were so difficult when my daughter went to college. She had always dreamt of being a journalist. Her teachers often told us how gifted she was in the area of writing and yet failed totally in mathematics and when it came to exam time forgot everything. She was a bit different and was bullied a LOT as well. Physically nothing seemed wrong. But at 25 she was guided to a Psychologists who diagnosed her with ADD inattentive type. He said she’d never be able to hold down a job and yes it’s been tough,even though she’s on meds. All through her childhood I did take her various doctors who were concerned and the schools laughed at me when I asked for testing. I also began to read anything I could find. Computers were just coming out and I wasn’t knowledgeable about their use. I also began to realize my husband shared many of the same traits. He was finally diagnosed at about age 65!!! He also had a brain injury we had never known of. Both are so forgetful, messy (hoarders if I had allowed it), unorganized and all that goes with it. My husband has been a successful farmer but I have found the stove left on at least 50 times and now in our 70’s he also leaves the water running. Equipment has been left running all night till they ran out of fuel. We live in northern rural Canada and medical care is sparse. This week alone our ER has been closed 4 days in a row. The next hospital is even smaller,50 miles away. Oops, I’m rambling. What I’m trying to say is that disabilities are not always visible,help is often not available and people are very judgmental. I don’t know why I picked on you, what I hope to get across is please don’t forget about the invisibles who are often forgotten.My daughter is a part time gardener and at 42 had a miracle baby,,,,,,,unfortunately she is autistic with ADHD. We love her.
This was really interesting! Your mom seems awesome (and she has great kids.) Also, people definitely stare at your sister because she's beautiful, lol.
I needed to see this today. Thank you so much, your family is amazing :) I cracked up when your grandmother was introduced lol
I so love this woman, what an encouragement to us all!!
a beautiful and well edited video. thank you for sharing her story this mother’s day ❤️ excited to see the documentary!
i cant wait to watch her documentary!!
This was so sweet and beautiful, made me smile several times as I watched it. Thank you!
Glad YT recced me this and I hope it gets more recognition and love from others too. Amazing video man, and very insightful. I'm sure your mum is very proud!
I did a High School report on Thalidomide children. Never thought someone could really survive it. Cool beans.
Many unfortunately didn't survive it but a few did.
Only 10% of “thalidomide” babies survived-90% were either stillborn or died within a week of birth. Tons of research has been done & I believe in 2018 they figured out that it was 1 ingredient that caused all of the damage and they also now know that it only took 1 dose for the damage to happen-it’s kinda mind blowing that a mother didn’t have to take it multiple does nor for a long time. I believe at last count there was only 10k survivors from that 8-9 year period of it being on the market. And most people don’t realize that it affected more than a child’s limbs.
I loved this video,excellently made. And your whole family are wonderful people. You’re so lucky to have each other.
Such a well-done video and I'm so glad to have been given the opportunity to meet your family. It's really a gift to everyone to have this document and it'll be a beautiful keepsake through the years
I'm and Andy P. too! Thank you for sharing your mother's story, I have recently been finding out a lot about Thalidomide because I guess that's what RUclips has chosen to give me in the past few months but I am so glad I saw this. I am now on my way to go watch your mother's documentary. Thank you so much for sharing this video.
Leaving a comment to increase your viewer engagement, great vid
this deserves more views smh, your mom is a wonderful person all around 🥺 and your family seems lovely, what a heartwarming story
beautiful, I'm so happy I watched this to the end.
Really loved this documentary about your mom and thalidomide in general! When I started watching I didn’t expect to watch it til the end but it was very engaging and I’m amazed by both your skills and your wonderful mom. Your whole family actually seems really great and wholesome.
I hope many more people will watch your video, I was actually really surprised by the low viewership compared to the care and effort that definitely went into making it.
Love from Germany
My mom became a nurse in 1963 and I grew up she taught me about all kinds of health issues including Thalidomide.
What an inspiring woman. Wish her a mother's day from a whole bunch of us here whose mom's aren't physically present anymore. And happy mother's day for all of you mothers and motherly figures. Moms rock!
i clicked on this thinking it was an oompaville video haha but i ended up feeling very touched by it! great video
Awestrucked that she is imperfectly perfect. She truly found her life's purpose. Oh my, what a great worrior goddess. Thank you for sharing
im from rochester too:))) this was recommended and i love it, your mom is a strong woman!!
I didn’t know what thalidomide was until now. Thank you for making this video. You’re mother is such an amazing person! I look forward to watching the documentary!❤
Thank you for sharing her story! This was so informative and well edited
Thank you for sharing this story. Your mom is awesome.
This is very beautiful! Very well narrated and put together. I totally enjoyed it. Thanks for the share. Health and blessings to you all.
you should be so proud of your mom, she is amazing. Keep up the good fight.
I love your life stories. Thank you for shariing.
Only a few minutes in but this is genuinely so well done. Thank you for sharing.
im so happy this was in my recommendations
She is a tribute to her parents and her children are tributes to her.
Your mom is so pretty. I’m glad she’s had a good life and a good childhood. And wow, what an amazing artist.
What a REMARKABLE WOMEN with an awesome family and wonderful friends who love her so much. Appreciate that you put together this wonderful video to show case how awesome your mom is.
Amazing How God is using her as an instrument that offers hope, love and laughter to so many around the world. GOD BLESS your MOM and Family as HE continue to make your Family a Blessing to all those you have the opportunity to reach out in such a Beautiful Way. Praise GOD for U tube so many worldwide can see what a terrific mom she is as she Celebrates each day sharing GOD'S JOY in so many ways.
Thank you for this - I’d love to see the documentary. Your mom is a firecracker! Glad she was able to nip bullying in the bud ❤
This is the best and most inspiring video on RUclips
Thanks for sharing
Interesting parallel: I was born in Dayton Ohio in 1961 and then moved when my dad started working in New York City in 1971.
i am so, so grateful to have been recommended this video. What a beautiful tribute to an incredible mum.
i have chronic illnesses and honestly, i often let my pain and my status as "disabled" define me and what i can do. But your mother is so right; it's about how you look at it. Hearing you guys talk and laugh about her life as a whole, not just focusing on her limitations, was really moving.
hoping that the next time i wake up and think "what's the point" when i'm faced with going to a lecture or getting stuck into an art project, i'll think of you guys :)
ps. more people should make tributes like these for their living relatives. You can sense so much of the love and inspiration you have for hher from this video ❤❤
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What an amazing woman!
Thanks for sharing this story, very well produced and informative. I had no idea about Thalidomide.
I remember it well. I was devastated for the kids & parents.
Ty for telling your story. It is important!
This video is truly inspiring, along with your mother,who seems like such an amazing person.
This is absolutely beautiful!! My heart is full!!
Wow, what a wonderful video about your mother. What a great woman. I definitely learned a bunch today :)
This was a great video I’m surprised your channel is still small.
I loved this. I am so glad you chose to make this.
Amazing
Good video. Now I feel like such a slacker. Amazing to see people for whom just moving around is a struggle but they do so much.
your mom is an amazing person who is so inspiring!!! thank you for sharing this with us. Im so surprised I never knew much about this, learning about it is crazy and im excited to see her film.
Thalidomide poisoning and it's effects are so sad. Hope your mom is doing fine though
Your mom is truly an amazing woman!
She is amazing and so pretty. All of your family are good looking people.
Like many, im not sure how i got here but I'm glad i did. Wonderful story. Wonderful family. Your mother is amazing.
What a remarkable woman and family.
I really enjoyed watching this & learning about these beautiful humans ❤
Thank you!!
I think that your journey thru your life, is a hope for the rest of those who are handicapped. Thank you for sharing. 35:22
commenting for exposure ❤ god bless you guys
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I took something in 1975 for morning sickness that caused the same problem. I only took one pill for morning sickness. goodness ❤❤❤
What a wonderful video
What a great way to honor your mom.
Thank you for this story❤
Your mom, what a beautiful woman. I was born in a littlt Mexico/US border town.. I think because we lived so rural and so poor is what saved us from this crime. Best wishes.
I love this video!!!!!!! WDYM it only has 889 views what the fuck it' so good, so inspiring!! Your mom is AWESOME
So beautiful
I was told about thalidomide by my boss when I was struggling with morning sickness in 1960. Miraculously I decided against taking the medication and my son who was born in March 1961 healthy.
I have always had great sympathy for the children and the parents and horrified by the evil treatment of them by the pharmaceutical company firstly for the creation of the medication and secondly by the callas treatment of their victims.
The individuals responsible for this evil will not escape God’s wrath on judgement day is a small consultation.
My heart goes out to these fantastic people.🥰🙏🏽
I am 68 this year and I remember this talked about and pictures. Never got Covid and I never took the vac’s wonder why?
You seem like an awesome guy. Don't curse yourself.😮
Their is a God. We all have hope. God is good. What a beautiful life of a beautiful woman with a disability.
This is amazing man, badass but going after Disney is low as sin so I respectfully ask yourself to take a long walk off a short pier fresh boy
Oopsie
Surprised to discover thalidomide is still used for some conditions. Not for pregnant people.
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What a world tragedy! I knew Dr. Helen Taussig who was the first MD to say that it was dangerous and caused birth defects.
I know it as "Softenon" I read a lot about Thalidomide which a know as Softenon, but why do I read nothing about the DES-hormoon. Given from 1947 till 1976. I am a DES daughter I was born in 1950 and ..... as a lot af DES-daughters and sons can not have children because of this medicine given to my mother. I look like a woman, I feel as a woman but ... as I always say ... my factory is empty and can have no children. I am 73 years old now, never ever had my "period" then only a little bit of oestrogene I have Osteoporose and artrose. But .... I am a happy woman and married with a lovely man for 48 year and he said: I am married with you because I love you and not to have children. Sometimes when I look how it is going in de world now, ... I am happy we have no children.
I was offered this drug ,as I suffered morning sickness for 9 months , I chose to reject it ,