My friend had a turbine powered Maule and this was so true. But boy was it fun while the fuel lasts 😂 To be fair though the plane fit his mission extremely well. He was doing floatplane fishing trips and it was able to get in places where a super Cub would have trouble with less than half the load on a hot day.
@@thomasphillips6818 I think the original power plant was rated at around 250, however this one is closer to 300hp. There are a couple of other variants with one around 400hp and a newer model pushing over 700hp.
He didn’t forget it. He spooled it up without the igniters on purpose. He wanted to Freese the engine with oil, before firing it up. Pilots did that with the 206 as well, especially after maintenance and for the first flight in the morning.😊
For the prop it's because it moves to "Feathered" pos on shut down, ie the blades are flat to the direction of rotation.. The engine stops spinning quickly because the turbine wheels are a small diameter and have very little inertia. I worked on the C20 in the Bell 206.. a few years ago.....ok over 30 years ago lol
I was a Fourwinds aircraft builder before the company was sold and then completely self destructed leaving at least 12 builders totally screwed. It was a great idea that was not totally proven and had a few glitches. I bought a TB 20 Trinidad fell in love and never looked back. If you are married...make a choice, it’s the airplane or your wife but rarely both. I chose my wife and bought a real airplane and I am very happy with both my wife and my airplane.
Daños en estator compresor escalones 2 y 3 producidos por desprendimiento del recubrimiento del plastico. No es un F. O. D. (Foreing out damage), pues el escalon 1 no esta dañado.
Why starting in full feather? Would starting in full fine not reduce starter load,battery load and allow engine to spool up enough to reduce risk of a hot start?
Andrew Wilson no oil pressure returns to full feather. This is in case of failure in flight. Also, prop is connected to lp turbine which is independent of compressor and hp turbine so it does not affect the starter loads.
As others have pointed out the drive turbine is not connected to the primary power shaft so the engine doesn't start under load. Important because this engine was initially designed to be used in a helicopter. This eliminates the need for a starter clutch.
The 250 is a very light engine. Turbines are typically around 1/2 the weight of pistons and produce more power. An A250 B17 eng weighs 202lb but can produce 420hp.
common you know that i'm talking about a drop or a top speed going down. the climb rate should not be that great but a turbo engine bro a mustang can reach mach 1 going down but jokes part was great to talk of planes with someone that understands me cheers!
Really ??????......well....lets do this...go there and when you see the "stationary props" grab them with your hands and them come back and tell us about your experience.
If I ever get a plane, I want to get a small one like this and stick a T-56 in it Who doesn’t think that the C-130 sounds epic and having some of the power of one in a small aircraft is badass?
Five Niner Photography & Videography - Not quite so necessary on a free turbine turboprop. There is a lot of noise before rotation - more noise than the call “clear prop”.
I drove Twotter in Vanuatu in the 90's. Had a local guy in Longana walk into a rotating/feathered prop. He lived to talk about that experience!!??!! (But, damn he ran away fast. He thought he had damaged the engine.) I used that plane to kill 5 chickens one day. (not on purpose, accidental interaction....)
Cessna....looks like a 150 but a turbine is only used to get better fuel efficiency. It does NOT increase HP. The airframe has limits and if you exceed them you WILL die.
+way2sh0rt07grad .... better fuel efficiency? what planet are you from.. better power to weight ratio for sure. 65 gph turbine vs 9 gph is quite a difference.
WTF ???…a Cessna 150 ??????are you out of your mind ???….you have no clue what you are saying,i train in a 150….you don't.If you never train before…SHUT UP !!!!!!
way2sh0rt07grad Better fuel efficiency? Where in gods creation did you hear a turbine having better fuel efficiency over a piston driven? Turbine is used for the opposite, it produces more power and weighs less than the piston counterpart. Thats why its used.
Love the sound!!
that thing is gonna haul ass eventually especially with THAT prop
Excellent film footage and sound.
Allison, what a sweet name. My husband whom passed away in January 2016, that was his NAME❤️
Boy! When that secondary booster turbo kicked in I thought she wouldn take off!
Notify: High-speed Composites, I bet they will answer even the dumbest of questions.
Nice!!!! But I had a seizure and bit my tongue off just watching that prop.
To do with the camera's frame rate.
Yikes.
@@jetstream454 Good. I was worried it was my heart pulse frame rate.😀
Very Nice! Been searching for an example of putting this engine to use in GA. What type of prop (?MT) are you using? Size?
Good Job Sir.
And its out of fuel......
OMG!!! split a gut
My friend had a turbine powered Maule and this was so true. But boy was it fun while the fuel lasts 😂 To be fair though the plane fit his mission extremely well. He was doing floatplane fishing trips and it was able to get in places where a super Cub would have trouble with less than half the load on a hot day.
Holy shit a apu flys
What high-wing a/c is that? Thanks, great video!:)
Think it’s a Cessna 152
It's a Four Winds. Unfortunately the company went out of business
Love it
Did closing the door help the start??
That thing is going to scoot!
Details, information, HP, burn rate, etc . . .nothing listed
About 420 hp
@@bellidoify I think the B-15 had 250 HP and 20 US gals per hour; but don't quote me....
@@thomasphillips6818 I think the original power plant was rated at around 250, however this one is closer to 300hp. There are a couple of other variants with one around 400hp and a newer model pushing over 700hp.
Oh yeah! This is awesome
Forgot the fuel pump?? No, he forgot the igniters.... Tic TIC Tic TIC TOCK; Checklist anyone??
He didn’t forget it. He spooled it up without the igniters on purpose. He wanted to Freese the engine with oil, before firing it up. Pilots did that with the 206 as well, especially after maintenance and for the first flight in the morning.😊
the igniters were like finger nails on a chalkboard,,,, other than that,,, freakin awesome!
Igniters just make a "ticking" sound.
I love the igniter’s!
Que motor e equipado o allisoc 250
How about the price of this turbine engine ? ( Alison 250 )
What's the airframe ?
why did it stop so fast at the end? can someone explain
For the prop it's because it moves to "Feathered" pos on shut down, ie the blades are flat to the direction of rotation.. The engine stops spinning quickly because the turbine wheels are a small diameter and have very little inertia. I worked on the C20 in the Bell 206.. a few years ago.....ok over 30 years ago lol
After 9 years...is there a video of that plane flying ???????????????
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awesome :D now question being im not knowledgeful on aircraft engines whats it mean by on 4 winds?
@tobagotb10 ahhh Okie sorry that was referring to the engine xD
I was a Fourwinds aircraft builder before the company was sold and then completely self destructed leaving at least 12 builders totally screwed. It was a great idea that was not totally proven and had a few glitches. I bought a TB 20 Trinidad fell in love and never looked back.
If you are married...make a choice, it’s the airplane or your wife but rarely both. I chose my wife and bought a real airplane and I am very happy with both my wife and my airplane.
Who did the electrical system on this plane?
Daños en estator compresor escalones 2 y 3 producidos por desprendimiento del recubrimiento del plastico. No es un F. O. D. (Foreing out damage), pues el escalon 1 no esta dañado.
When can we see it fly?
For everyone asking "what airplane is that?", look at the last two words of the title.
so four winds is an airplane brand? ok i will google that thanks
@@heaven-is-real I also thought it was a location
why does it sound like a jet at the start
Why starting in full feather? Would starting in full fine not reduce starter load,battery load and allow engine to spool up enough to reduce risk of a hot start?
Andrew Wilson no oil pressure returns to full feather. This is in case of failure in flight. Also, prop is connected to lp turbine which is independent of compressor and hp turbine so it does not affect the starter loads.
Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6's start fully feathered as well. Garrett turboprops do not.
@@blampa free turbine ftw
As others have pointed out the drive turbine is not connected to the primary power shaft so the engine doesn't start under load.
Important because this engine was initially designed to be used in a helicopter. This eliminates the need for a starter clutch.
Looks like it will be nose heavy as hell. Any volunteers for that first ride?
The 250 is a very light engine. Turbines are typically around 1/2 the weight of pistons and produce more power. An A250 B17 eng weighs 202lb but can produce 420hp.
What model is this plane
this plane must reach mach 1 WOW SUCH A MAD START
HAHAHAHA !!!!! agree !!! the climb rate may be higher than a F15 !!!!!!!!!!!!
common you know that i'm talking about a drop or a top speed going down. the climb rate should not be that great but a turbo engine bro a mustang can reach mach 1 going down but jokes part was great to talk of planes with someone that understands me
cheers!
Pedro D I
Was this setup difficult? Who built the engine mount for you?
Price sale ?
optical illusions!!!
The propeller appears stationary when it spins with a speed multiple of the camera's frame rate.
Really ??????......well....lets do this...go there and when you see the "stationary props" grab them with your hands and them come back and tell us about your experience.
Thirsty engines how?
Kids in Japan had seizures watching this video.
That thing will go vertical after 3 yards!
How long is a 'yard' lol? Why not just use metres that every body understands? smh . . .
@@TRPGpilot In 1982 I owned a 1972 Renault R12. I am still mad at France 😂
Please let me know this , knowledge people !
0:50 - 0:58
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Engine is bigger than the airplane.
Bigger engine hits the ground going faster.
Mi god.
Looks like a Cessna 177RG
nopie the 177 cutlass does not have 4 doors.
The RG has Retractable Gear, hence RG. This plane clearly does not....
Isn’t that kinda overkill
When you've got no clue how to start a turbo prop...
what is that supposed to mean? Care to enlighten us?
@@lbowsk He forgot his checklist....
that is airplane name??
Engine name
If I ever get a plane, I want to get a small one like this and stick a T-56 in it
Who doesn’t think that the C-130 sounds epic and having some of the power of one in a small aircraft is badass?
Your gonna need another c130 in the air to instantly refuel the second you take off
Yes’m Yes’m Wow, do they really drink that much fuel?
@@Creeperboy099 The oil capacity for a t56 is probably bigger than the fuel capacity of a cessna
Yes’m Yes’m wow how did I not think of that lmao
See the EAA Web Forum for more information about this aircraft. eaaforums.org/showthread.php?841-Four-Winds-Aircraft
Na turboprops with 3 blades are better, sound an perform better! Why everybody put too many blades than is necessary!
Pilot forgot to say, “clear prop”.
Good thing the guy approaching from the right wing stopped in his tracks.
Five Niner Photography & Videography - Not quite so necessary on a free turbine turboprop. There is a lot of noise before rotation - more noise than the call “clear prop”.
I drove Twotter in Vanuatu in the 90's. Had a local guy in Longana walk into a rotating/feathered prop. He lived to talk about that experience!!??!! (But, damn he ran away fast. He thought he had damaged the engine.) I used that plane to kill 5 chickens one day. (not on purpose, accidental interaction....)
Running it like that its not going to last long...
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Flingwing engine.
Cessna....looks like a 150 but a turbine is only used to get better fuel efficiency. It does NOT increase HP. The airframe has limits and if you exceed them you WILL die.
who said jet engines has better fuel efficiency? btw if you exceed the limits you can still live... -.-
+way2sh0rt07grad .... better fuel efficiency? what planet are you from.. better power to weight ratio for sure. 65 gph turbine vs 9 gph is quite a difference.
WTF ???…a Cessna 150 ??????are you out of your mind ???….you have no clue what you are saying,i train in a 150….you don't.If you never train before…SHUT UP !!!!!!
way2sh0rt07grad Better fuel efficiency? Where in gods creation did you hear a turbine having better fuel efficiency over a piston driven? Turbine is used for the opposite, it produces more power and weighs less than the piston counterpart. Thats why its used.
You should not comment on things you so obviously know nothing about.
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You need a certain N1/T5 before introducing fuel.... And, if your battery is cold in Canadian winter you can 'smoke' the engine.
Fake. Nice indoor echo when closing the door, OUTSIDE.
You are not particularly intelligent are you? Is that genetic or did you learn 'stupid' from your parents?
@@TRPGpilot Look at his name...