+1 on your sensible advice! I decided to get one special chain in 500 series format for vocals/instrument recording but haven’t attempted to repurpose that single channel for the stereo bus yet! Great idea!
For my fellow LA2A and EQP (pultec) nutters…Klark Teknik brand clones. Just change the tubes if you feel it doesn’t have enough warmth. They’re killer and super budget friendly. You’re welcome. Love ya!
i only recently discovered you not sure when you started doing videos but i get that feeling you watched a few and was like Fuck this let me really help some people no gimmicks
I have a question. So once you plugin and try to mix and master with those. Do you have to re-record your stem with the added mixing from those things? Or do they get added somehow just by tweaking them after the stem has been recorded already?
Got a ART TransX on your recommendation, I use it for mixing post recording (same way you've used it here) and I couldn't be happier with it. Just wondering what you would recommend as an upgrade for the same type of use (mainly on a mix bus)? Cheers
Hello, since I wanna keep the mixing in the box, havin 6/9u (I will buy a desk that can hold some racks in it, and will have 6 or 9u) what you would buy, that sounds pro but, whitout needing a loan? Recording and mastering purposes. I will rec just vocals because I make rap/trap/drill music. Thanks in advance.
Thank you! I needed to hear this. I’m currently in school for audio engineering and building my home studio. I was thinking about going with plug ins first and figuring out what outboard gear i would want/need afterwards. I needed to hear this. Great advice.
My pleasure, glad to help out! Take time and personalize the layout and gear that best fits your workflow. It is a lot of work, but enjoy the process building your studio!
When you are starting I politely suggest you reach for something like Universal Audio or Antelope Audio with their interfaces using modeling of classic gear. Not only will you have an interface with high-quality preamps and excellent converters, but over time you will find out what outboard gear you really need through modeling. Not only will you avoid significant financial investments (and losses in the event of their sale), but you will probably find that, apart from good preamps (and maybe a compressor), these days there is no reason to place hardware processors at the top of the wishlist for your home studio. I wish you many beautiful moments creating and recording music!
Glad you’re enjoying your gear! ART doesn’t spend a lot on promotion (so we don’t hear a lot about their gear), but I have generally found it to be far superior than price would suggest. You can make great sounding music with ART. Cheers!
For mixing, First piece of gear to purchase is a master bus compressor. No doubt. If you do this and think your mix sounds no different id suggest staying in the box with your plugins, your not ready for outboard yet.
i think the point about a compressor is great advice. in a lot of cases, aside the microphone(which should have been #1), its usually the most expensive. if you can save up and get a CL 1B, getting the neve 1073 after wont seem like as big a save. for me, I have my mic and my pre and need a compressor now. I'm just going to have to go hybrid for now with my Telefunken into my 737 and use UAD's comps on the way in.
I’m with you on the microphone. Everything stacks up and you get the best incremental upgrades when you start with a great source. The great thing is that we can all build our rigs up over time adding just the right pieces while taking advantage of just how good plugins have become. I am he first person to admit I love analog gear, but I do have to say that using both UAD on the Apollo and native (plus a few others), I don’t think we aren’t suffering too much with plugins along the way… Cheers!
my first outboard gear was three pream/interfaces! it didn't come together until i bought my 1st compressor, the dbx 1066 - user-controls up the ying-yang!
I'm looking to figure out compressors as a part of my sound design and taming live sound. Rather than incorporating a computer and messing with interfaces, I'm trying to discover what's available whether desktop, rack mount, eurorack, or pedal format. There do seem to be far more (stereo) options in rack mount than other formats. That's ignoring the million mono guitar pedals with only 3 controls.
This was very timely for me and I appreciate the info. I will check some other of your videos and have subscribed. I have been considering a tube headphone amp to function as you did the mic preamp. Do you have any pros or cons for this?
Thanks and I am glad to hear you are enjoying my videos. You can use a tube headphone amp as an insert but the setup depends on the available connections on the amp. Most headphone amplifiers use unbalanced inputs and have either headphone level only or headphone level plus auxiliary unbalanced outputs. Connecting balanced and unbalanced inputs and outputs is not ideal and can result in distortion as can using a headphone output as a line out. ART makes a balanced/unbalanced converter with impedance matching and level control to address this issue. www.artproaudio.com/product/cleanbox-pro-dual-channel-level-converter/ You can also use a 2 channel DI box to convert unbalanced headphone output to a mic level balanced signal to connect back to preamps on your audio interface. Here is an example: www.radialeng.com/product/prod2 If on the other hand, your headphone amplifier does have balanced connections (such as the Monolith Liquid Platinum), you will be able to make the connections. Depending on the input and output connectors themselves, adapters are sometimes required. Hope this helps out!
@@askdrtk Thanks much for the feedback! I will be using it in IO and routing back into my interface. I think the headphone stereo out may do the trick for now. I need stereo and a 2 channel mic preamp is starting to look out of budget for now.
Yes, in this example the TX is the last insert on the 2 bus. Normally I use other hardware after inserting preamps (EQ, SPL Big, and Bus Compressor), but for this demo I wanted the sound of the TX to come across. Cheers!
Thanks for posting. At the end when you demo'd the TransX on the mix bus, was that the difference from just engaging it with everyything set neutral or did you tweak the knobs before engaging? I am looking for my first piece of outboard gear and this piece of kit has peaked my interest. Cheers.
Hi mate, great video! Can you give me a sight of how you do your connections for the masterbuss? Im on cubase as well, but the main problem is to figure out how to connect the inns and outs properly. Thanks a lot for this video 🙏🏿
I have been pleased with my 710 and have thought about swapping it for a 4-710d. The compression on the 4-710d works well with a variety of sources and UA haven't "overdone it" for tracking imo. I haven't tested the conversion on the digital IO, but I would expect it to be good coming from UA. I like that line inputs 5-8 are also provided to maximize the digital IO. TO me the 4-710d is a compelling choice...
Fantastic! I had to get rid of my BAE dual pre and my ISA 440 mkii, but I did keep my 1176 from warm audio. If I'm gonna be on a budget, I choose that tool as the one to be always using on front end. As for mentioning the noncommonality between older units and the function being what really sells them all these years, I was just thinking, I hope he mentions that, right before you said it! In fact, what I just argued with someone the other day was that those older units are more about a workflow than a specific frequency spectrum.
Channel strips are an excellent option (they didn't make my first gear recommendation only due to complexity of controls/cost in some cases) but otherwise I highly recommend them. I look for flexible IO on the channel strip so I can normal all of the insert points through a patch bay which then allows the use of the channel in its entirety or to split up/ combine the various available effects. For an all in one solution (track, mix bus, master) I recommend transformer-based preamp, inductor EQ, and VCA or optical compressor. Tube preamps are better suited to recording vs mix bus use imo whereas a transformer preamp is useful for both recording and mix bus. For mastering, I am looking to bypass the preamp section. Of course there has to be give and take based on cost and flavor you prefer (Neve, SSL, etc.). Channel strip in combination can also be a good option. For example, you can create a pretty nice SSL front end for your DAW with a pair of SSL XLogic Alpha channel strips and then add dynamics with either an SSL bus compressor (clones such as AudioScape and Warm are good options) or even something like an elysia xpressor or as an affordable option, an ART TransY are good options. An SSL front end with preamps, EQ, dynamics, limiting, and harmonic drive all for around $2700 is going to provide great results and you can do about the same if you prefer a for "Neve" like sound. Sorry for the lengthy response, but a few ideas anyways...
@@askdrtk Very helpful and much appreciated! I’m looking at trading a lot of old gear for a Neve Shelford. I know it’s super high end but I think it covers everything.
All good. The Shelford channel is one of the best channel strips for recording available, and a pair (while pricey) would make a fantastic front end. The inductor EQ is outstanding and the input transformer Neve used on the preamp delivers some of the best tone (especially lower frequencies) I have heard. Well worth the upgrade... Let me know what you think when you make the switch.
I just realized I’ve been in this game so long I’ve gone from hearing “ You may be excited to ditch your analog gear try all these new amazing digital plug ins” to hearing “ You may be excited to ditch the digital plug ins and dive right into outboard analog gear”. It’s literally come full circle 😂😂😂😂😂
Sorry I’m new to this but is it possible to have outboard gear setup for both tracking and for mixing later (as an insert)at once so that I don’t have to change anything?
whats a good starter set of outboard gear for master bus output, I only produce and mix music/beats in the box, dont do much live recording. What would be some nice starter pieces?
Thanks for this vid ! Somehow I didn't understand why you place preamps/compressors on the master bus (daw) if you wan't track/record synths/drum machines for example ?
Glad to help out! The idea behind placing hardware on the 2-bus is to impart the saturation, harmonics, and compression analog circuits introduce into the sound of the digital mixes we create in our DAWs. We use analog hardware when recording for much the same reasons although often more so with microphones vs line level sources like synths and drum machines. That said, using an outboard preamp and compressor with a drum machine can make the recording sound a bit less like a machine if that is what you are going for. In the end it is a creative process as much as a technical one. Plugins are fantastic, but imo the combination of plugins/analog gear is capable of producing the sounds we have been enjoying for years, often with less work than using one or the other. Only my thoughts, but I hope this helps out. Cheers!
@@askdrtk thanks I see, but during tracking process why not an insert channel of each track with it's own parameters of the hardware within the DAW instead of masterbus ? what is a 2-bus ? Thank you!!
Really informative video. So I'm looking to get some outboard gear. I've currently only just got an Art Pro MPA II preamp running through an Auident ID22. I record mainly rap vocals with some singing sometimes, was wondering what compressor would be best just to help it sit in the mix better On the way in and make the vocals pop abit more. Shall I go with an LA2A or 1176 (clones as can't afford the real one). Your response would be appreciated thank you.
Both are great choices but I find the LA2A to be a bit smoother on rap and other vocals (some exceptions for vocals with sharp transients - some metal, etc...) Both the Warm Audio WA-2A and Audioscape OPTO are great choices around the $1k usd price point (both reliable and good audio quality/compression characteristics). Lindell Audio has a new LIN2A clone for $699. Based on my experience with their LIN76, I expect the LIN2A to perform very well but I haven't tested one yet (only thing is it has only 1/4" jacks, no XLR - minor complaint). The Klark Teknik 2A-KT is the most affordable at $379 usd, but I've heard mixed opinions about the output stage being weak (some say all good, others say no headroom). I haven't tried the 2A-KT myself, but I have found other gear of theirs to be considerably better than expected for the price. Hope this helps out.
@@askdrtk Ah you're a legend for replying. I actually ended up getting the GAP COMP 3A as it's abit of 2a and 76 mixed in one sorta say and at a very good price. Can't wait to try it out and again, thank you for your help you've just earned a sub!
That GAP COMP 3A is really nice gear. The main difference between the 3A and 2A is the 3A is solid state vs the 2A is tube based. The 3A has a cleaner / more transparent sound whereas the 2A is a bit more saturated. Otherwise, same opto compression which will work very well on Rap. If you get a chance, let me know what you think once you have a chance to try it out and most importantly, enjoy your new 3A!
@@askdrtk Man, I've been LOVING this thing. 6 months later and it's doing just what I was looking for 😀 . So now.....I'm hungry for more Gear to bring it up a notch haha. Was looking at the SSL Fusion with some sort of bus compressor; ART PRO VLA II or ART TransX. What would you recommend (for mix bus only)?
I use the trans X on my mixbus as well, into the warm bus comp and 2 EQP KT’s. Curious; what impedance are you setting for the pre amp on your mixbus ?
I have the Transx impedance set at 600ohm. It is connected to my interface outputs using a Radial stereo DI box (150ohm output impedance). I also use a set of EQPs, a TK Audio BC501-Ltd bus comp, and finally an SPL Big on my mixbus.
How can I run a LINE LEVEL stereo signal from my mixer master outs through the ART TransX? It only has mic and instruments inputs. If you can help me out I'd appreciate it. 🙏
you either want a direct box to turn your impedance to microphone level or a reamp box to turn your impedance to instrument level. both are handy to have around and some companys make a box that does both.
I got your reply and bought Aphex 230 but I have Issue with it as the noise from out side thru the mic is very load and I turn the Depth down I could not record and if I turn on Depth Nob no good vocal quality I got and there is humming sound I heard .There is no return policy of Reverb so I feel I lost money until I sell it out but very hard to sell. Thanks.
It sounds like a ground loop issue. It could be an internal short (which does happen especially when gear is shipped around), but it could also be external. Does the noise change if you move the your power cables around or when holding them? It may also be worth trying a different outlet. If either of these makes a difference, you may be able to solve the issue with a Hum X or similar isolation power bar.
@@askdrtk Sir, is it advisable to buy the plugin XVOX for better recording? Because I bought Aphex 230 but have an issue so I claim for refund on Reverb. Please help me what is the best way to record means Preamp( but which one? ) or a plugin like XVOX. I want to hear my original Indian-style songs on RUclips “ Jitendrasinh Thakor ( Sisodia ) I am retired 68 years old. I use just use a condenser Neumann TLM 49 and Focusrite 6i6 2nd Generation and Reaper DAW. After listening please suggest what should I do. I watch everyday your videos. Thanks.
I enjoyed listening to your music, your vocals have a very pleasing tone. The combination of the TLM 49 with your voice is very good. While I have not used it, the XVOX channel strip plugin appears to have all of the necessary features to process your recordings. That being said, your microphone will benefit from a superior preamp compared to the built-in preamp in your Scarlett. I would recommend a Neve 1073 style preamp with inductor EQ combination. This will help bring out the best from your microphone and I believe will be a very good fit for your voice. You can then use compression and other effects in Reaper as needed when you are mixing. My first recommendation in a reasonable price range is the Warm Audio WA-73EQ which sells for 799 USD. Another very similar unit that is a bit less expensive is the Golden Age PREQ73 which sells for 599 USD. Both of these preamp / EQ combinations can deliver excellent results from the TLM 49 and will give your vocals a smooth polished tone.
@@askdrtk please send me your Email so that I can send you $25 ( that much I can afford ) as you help me by giving reply all the time. Thanks and I like your Videos.
Great content! question how did you connect the ssl fusion and ssl plus compressor because when I hit the insert button on the ssl fusion my audio goes off can you please help me out? 🙏
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! To use the Bus+ compressor as an insert on the Fusion you need to connect as follows: 1. Connect Line Outs from your audio interface to the Inputs on the Fusion. 2. Connect the Insert Sends from the Fusion to the Inputs on the Bus+. 3. Connect the Outputs from the Bus+ to the Insert Returns on the Fusion. 4. Connect the Outputs from the Fusion to Line Ins on your audio interface. This will allow you to use the Fusion with and without the Bus+ by pressing Insert on the Fusion. Hope this helps out!
I use a 2 channel (stereo) DI box I with line level inputs (the Radial Pro AV2 is a good quality example of this type of adapter). It takes two line level inputs and provides two mic level outputs for your TransX and is transformer isolated to prevent hum. I hope this helps out!
Woah, I totally thought mic preamps were literally just to power and color microphones. I never heard of them being used on a master bus and I have been mixing for almost 8 years.
Yes, I'm seeing more and more of this as hybrid has become more popular. Try a pair across your 2-bus and listen for saturation and natural compression. I use 73s and really like them on rock, alternative, country, etc... Cheers!
which desktop mic preamp is better for voice over? focusrite isa one or universal audio 710? im going to combine that with dbx 286s and senheiser mkh416
The UA 710 is clean on the SS side until you begin to drive the gain anywhere past 5.5 after which noise floor starts to become apparent. The ISA One has more gain available vs the 710 and so you do not have to drive the preamp as much. Any time you need to drive the preamp gain near to its maximum, you will hear considerably more noise compared to only using 50-70 percent of its gain. Comparing the two with gain-hungry dynamic microphones and more sensitive condenser microphones I have found I can get a cleaner signal out of the ISA One, again, largely because the ISA One has more gain available. Another great option is the Cranborne Camden EC1. It is a very clean preamp (cleaner than both the ISA One and 710) and gets a lot of use for voiceover where pristine clarity is important.
Really enjoyed this but still have questions... maybe somebody can help me as I am getting really confused: I want to be able to connect two 19 inch rack pieces of gear, a Compressor and a EQ to my DAW master bus in Ableton through my M-Audio Air 192|6... will I be able to do it with this interface which only has 2 ins (already taken by my Korg Minilogue XD) and 2 outs (monitor outs, already used)... or will I need a mixer? and how to I go about connecting them? daisy chain?... thanks for any help!
Glad you enjoyed my video! To connect outboard gear you will need an interface with at least one pair of inputs and on pair of outputs that are not in use. For mixing purposes you could swap the inputs from the Korg to the outboard gear, but outputs for your monitors are still required, so this is a no go with your interface. A mixer will not help in this situation as you still would need inputs and outputs for routing through your master bus. If you are planning to use both exclusively on your master bus daisy-chaining is a good option as only one pair of available inputs and outputs will be required and only one trip in and out through the converters in the interface will be required. My suggestion is to get an interface with at least 4 inputs and 4 outputs (more if you plan on adding other gear in the future). I also did a video where I went through connecting an outboard compressor to an audio interface in the way you are wanting to do. It is only a single channel compressor and I used a Focusrite Scarlett 4i4 to demonstrate, but it may help give you an idea on the connections. ruclips.net/video/bbslTJU43yA/видео.html Hope this helps out!
@@askdrtk Just one thing... something like the Behringer RX1602 16 chanel mixer will help with providing the necessary inputs - considering I will be adding another 2 synth modules in the next few months - but then I would have to place and daisy chain the 2 outboard units after the Behringer and into the ins of my audio interface right? I just dont want to get another audio interface so thinking of the best setup... thanks!
Yes, you can daisy-chain the outboard gear between the mixer and interface. This approach is for tracking only and will allow you to record with EQ and compression but not make changes later or use the gear when mixing. This will also provide the least latency when recording if you want to monitor yourself with EQ and compression.
Glad I could help out! Those FD312 H2’s are nice sounding preamps. The TransX is one of those pieces that quietly offers a lot of value for the price and may be one of the best values in affordable two channel API style preamps. I’ve never had the opportunity to audition them side-by-side but it would be interesting.
That MPA II is another example of ART gear that far overperforms its price imo. I find ART gear generally doesn't get the attention it deserves, but if you look closely you see it in many studios.
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it! For the demo I am using a 2 channel passive DI box (Radial) to convert signal level and impedance for the TransX’s inputs. Cheers!
ì use mic - pre amp - subtractive eq - fast compressor - slow compressor - additive eq - interface. is this good for vocal recording? would it be better to use an analog mixer instead of they all connected via xlr cable? i sub u bro and like
I suspect you have short cables between your pre, compressors, and EQs, so XLR cables should not be an issue. I would however recommend using a TRS cable between your final additive EQ and audio interface as a precaution so as not to accidentally send phantom power from the interface into the additive EQ. An analog mixer is also a good option, but will likely not have enough built-in effects to match your current chain and if you start using inserts on the mixer to patch-in outboard gear, you might as well stay with what you have now if you have the sound setup the way you like it. I hope this helps out, Cheers!
I pulled out the wire and it bended, but I hope it dident damage the record player, I also forgot to turn on the 48hz button, I stopped playing for almost a year because I dident know what to do😅, but why can’t someone invente a mainstream good quality and affordable wire less things were you don’t have to use any wires, everyone is trying to invente something brand new or sci fi this or that but what about something simple and practical that already exist but that is mainstream and has a good quality were you don’t use wires but it’s simple and affordable to use
Great content! I have been thinking about getting my first analog gear for some time, but still not sure which way to go, maybe 500 series, and for sure a pair of Mic preamps, and compressors sound like the way to start BTW, what would you think about using a "Universal Audio Volt 276" as outbord gear (2 channels, each Mic preamp with a 1176 style compressor)? Could be used as the Input to Record with another Audio Interface (using Line Inputs), or for post-production too... saw someone using this kind of units that way, sounded interesting, these have very lfew controls, and the price is lower than some 500 series, anyway its just an interesting idea Thanks for your videos!
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed my video. 500 series can be a great option for both space savings and value, not to mention the convenience of controls organized in a chain… I had the same thought when I reviewed the 276 and did some testing using the 276 as an insert on a few different tracks (vocals, guitar, drums) at that point. I was able to get some good results and I thought about making a video specifically for that (I just haven’t circled back to it yet…) If you need some basic compression and some vibe, the 276 packs a lot of value.
I really like your informative content on audio production and audio gear! I've been interested in checking out the FMR RNC 1773 as a first analog gear for my set up, my goal with that purchase is to include some compression on the way in when I record vocals, acoustic guitar, and use the compressor within the mix as well to even out dynamics and make the post processing a less difficult Have you had any experience with the RNC 1773? Would you recommend it as a first outboard gear on a budget? I just record straight through my audio interface and I'm looking to implement analog gear
Thanks, I'm glad to hear you have been enjoying my content! I have used the RNC and will say that is is an excellent choice in the affordable category for a first outboard stereo compressor. It can be very transparent when needed but still add some extra crunch when you want. The processing is done in an analog signal path with digital control which makes it very easy to recall settings which is nice to have when you are switching back and forth between tracking and mixing. I will be posting a full review on it, but if you are ready to go I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up. I Hope this helps out, Cheers!
@@askdrtk Thank you so much for your recommendation and sharing your experience I'll gladly give it a go if I have the money to purchase it, more power to your content man!
Peace appreciate the content very informative. I’m a newbie to outboard gear just bought my first two pieces a warm audio wa 2a and wa 76 want to incorporate a mic pre was considering the warm audio wa mpx 2 saw your reply to another comment what you think and what are your suggestions. Thanks again and good info much success to you.
Thanks! You are off to a good start with the 2a and 76, they are the classic go to for serial compression for a good reason... The choice of mic pre depends on the character (if any) you are looking for. The MPX and MPX 2 are some of the best new preamps I have heard this year if you are looking for a warm character with the ability to dial in saturation and harmonic distortion plus the tape circuit rounds off peaks like the analog tape we used back in the day. I recently spent some time with one and will be getting one for my studio. That said, it is a character box and only the right choice if the what I described sounds like what you are looking for. A 73 style preamp such as the WA273-EQ or Heritage HA73EQX2 will provide classic Neve warmth. If you prefer something with more punch, a 312 style preamp such as the WA-412 or BAE 312A Dual are good choices. I hope this helps out with a few options.
@@askdrtk Peace and thank you for the response it’s greatly appreciated you are a God send providing the service and knowledge of information I’ll look into these the reason I mentioned mpx2 is because of the punch it gave to drums it gave them a dirty gritty sound also on bass it gave it deep rich feel that you felt in your soul if you understand what I’m saying. Thanks again definitely will have a zoom meeting with you. Peace and blessings to you my guy.
Refreshing to hear someone being honest about vintage vs reissue vs clone rack gear for a change. Too many gearslutz types sniffing corks for no reason other than to justify the princely sums they spend to themselves. And big ups on the TransX pres, it's crazy the value for money they offer. Those things can go up against anything and hold their own. ART really hit it out of the park with those.
You really got me thinking...do I just want to keep Tracking and Mixing with Nebula...Running everything through 2 API channles $7000 worth the money Your basically getting a Double Mono - Stereo Mixer Channel 2 Pres Double Mono (Stereo 3 Band EQ and 525 API Comps) From A High end point of view just seems esier and less time consuming to use two API Strips
Really great advice here in this video and a solid starting point for sure! Love my Warm Audio WA273 (no EQ version) with my Revive Audio Pro VLA II (modded) and my Audio-Scape EQP-A (pair). They were affordable and I use them all the time for tracking, mixing and mastering so they are used a lot. Can't recommend the Pro VLA II and Audio-Scape enough .... really has been solid.
Thanks, that's a great collection you can get a lot done with! I am very impressed with what Chris and his team over at @AudioScapeEngineeringCo are doing. If they could ever scale up without changing the gear I think a lot of manufacturers would get very nervous...but scaling up is kind of the opposite of what makes their gear so great... Cheers!
Absolutely the first thing to get. I consider this a purchase with the computer and audio interface, but if that was not the case (and I know it often is not) power conditioning is a must before adding outboard. Cheers!
I guet the wa 273 ( so i have the preamps and the Stereo eq and trans for the master bus 😊 great recomendación ) them i have the wa bus comp ( ssl G clone )🎉 thanks for your vídeos...
Absolutely...500 series is a great opportunity to build a recording chain and then mix bus processing. Cost and space efficient, which are always good things in our home and project studios... Cheers!
@@askdrtk your channel is quickly becoming my favorites for audio gear and reviews. I have a lot of gear and have been thinking of starting a gear review channel myself. Thanks for inspiration.
It really depends on your budget. If I were starting out today, I would recommend the Apollo Duet. Use the Unison technology and get a couple of UAD channel strips. Then grab their UAD 1176, La-2A, Studer, Massive Passive, and SSL Stereo Compresser. I use those on every mix and it’ll cost you less than $2,000 if you purchase those plugs when UA puts them on sale on Black Friday. If you really want to get hardware: the BAE mic pre/eq, 2 Distressors, and the SSL Fusion. High end: 2 Shelford Channels and the RNP MBP.
Great video, helped me a lot! Sorry for the (probably) dumb quesion: I want to color my in-the-box mixes with two outboard neve-clones. Which inputs should I use on the outboard modules? The mic ins of the preamps or the inserts of the lunchbox? Does it matter?
Thanks, I'm glad it helped out! You will want to use the line level inputs (if available) and outputs from the clones. Using the insert inputs will bypass the preamp and the coloration it provides - not what you want... Depending on which clones you have, there may be line inputs either separate from the mic inputs or as part of a combo jacks. There may also be a mic/line switch. Using line inputs / the line mode is the preferred method due to impedance of line level signals. If you are unsure, let me know with clones you have and I will be more specific. Cheers.
@@askdrtk Thank you so much for your help. I got the Golden Age Premier Pre Amps and I'm very happy with the results AND it is a lot of fun playing around with different settings. Are you going to make a dedicated video about further considerations for using outboard gear on the 2-Bus/Master Bus? I am currently thinking about what would be the best second step in order to add analog vibe to my digital mixes. Is it an SSL Bus Comp.? Surely not a bad idea, however it is considered to be farely "clean" while I want it to add colour. Is it a Pultec EQ? It is supposed to add a good amount of "vibe". However, due to the very limited number bands I might need an additional 4-band EQ after which I need to rob a bank for. I would love to see a video about your thoughts. Best wishes from Germany, Martin
Hi Martin, Adding 73 style preamps like the GA Premiers was a great choice and I am glad you are happy with the results. Bus compressors, EQs, tape emulators, and more are definitely among the next steps. I will be making many more videos on the subject with a variety of 500 series and rack gear. I have a new 500 series chassis video coming next week. Thanks for the suggestions. Cheers. Todd
The 7:26 long dissertation takes 2 minutes to say nothing, followed by a comment that specific gear wouldn't be mentioned, then goes on to speak of the LA2A and 1176 style compressors.... too vague, mate.
Thanks so much for this video. It was extremely enlightening. After a lot of consideration I ended up going with an API channel strip for my first piece of serious analog gear. So far I love it. Some of the best sounds I’ve ever recorded are coming out of it. At some point I’d like to upgrade my interface so that I have more I/O capability and can really explore the versatility of the unit for mixing purposes.
Love the videos and not here for hate either but a compressor as first outboard gear? I almost thought you were joking! Honestly guys, get a good preamp first. You can compress in the box. Once you get used to it, buy a hardware compressor. Running a studio, a hardware compressor was the absolute last thing I bought.
Glad you’re enjoying my videos. My compressor recommendation is for those that mix only and have been compressing ITB, outboard preamp for anyone recording is my recommendation as well. Cheers!
Wowww you are great, GOD has given you such a awesome gifts of wisdom and knowledge on all this different gear that is amazing i am learning a lot so happy to have met you. Thank you for all work and time you put in to help ALL of us who are watching you..👍
When did he recommend any specific piece of gear? He recommended getting a compressor first and mentioned that many companies make affordable versions of classic gear.
Yes, great analog special unit device can make a huge difference to your boring, dead mix. :)) I bought Steinberg's UR RT 2 audio interface with Neve's transformers and I just drive my raw mix through it for some analog sugar spice destroying that zombie dead digital land ... :))) You have to hit "the sweet spot" for optimum resoult; it can be easily too much ...
buy clones, spending 20k on “the real thing” for your tiny home studio is just stupid, warm audio gear is as good as anything despite what anyone says, if its good enough for pros like joe caroll its good enough for me
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First of all… the mix alone is nice!!!! The preamps added a good lift to what’s already there! Great video!
+1 on your sensible advice!
I decided to get one special chain in 500 series format for vocals/instrument recording but haven’t attempted to repurpose that single channel for the stereo bus yet! Great idea!
Great decision on a 500 series chain! Very good flexibility and room to grow…Cheers!
For my fellow LA2A and EQP (pultec) nutters…Klark Teknik brand clones. Just change the tubes if you feel it doesn’t have enough warmth. They’re killer and super budget friendly. You’re welcome. Love ya!
What tubes would you recommend?
i only recently discovered you not sure when you started doing videos but i get that feeling you watched a few and was like Fuck this let me really help some people no gimmicks
You are on to me…lol! Always glad to help out where I can.
@@askdrtk makes me wana make a dj channel with the same kinda no nonsense setting lol
Super overview. Thank you for taking the time on this :)
Thanks, glad to help out. Cheers!
I have a question. So once you plugin and try to mix and master with those. Do you have to re-record your stem with the added mixing from those things? Or do they get added somehow just by tweaking them after the stem has been recorded already?
Got a ART TransX on your recommendation, I use it for mixing post recording (same way you've used it here) and I couldn't be happier with it. Just wondering what you would recommend as an upgrade for the same type of use (mainly on a mix bus)? Cheers
Hello, since I wanna keep the mixing in the box, havin 6/9u (I will buy a desk that can hold some racks in it, and will have 6 or 9u) what you would buy, that sounds pro but, whitout needing a loan? Recording and mastering purposes. I will rec just vocals because I make rap/trap/drill music. Thanks in advance.
Thank you! I needed to hear this. I’m currently in school for audio engineering and building my home studio. I was thinking about going with plug ins first and figuring out what outboard gear i would want/need afterwards. I needed to hear this. Great advice.
My pleasure, glad to help out! Take time and personalize the layout and gear that best fits your workflow. It is a lot of work, but enjoy the process building your studio!
@@askdrtk i will! Thx again!
When you are starting I politely suggest you reach for something like Universal Audio or Antelope Audio with their interfaces using modeling of classic gear. Not only will you have an interface with high-quality preamps and excellent converters, but over time you will find out what outboard gear you really need through modeling. Not only will you avoid significant financial investments (and losses in the event of their sale), but you will probably find that, apart from good preamps (and maybe a compressor), these days there is no reason to place hardware processors at the top of the wishlist for your home studio. I wish you many beautiful moments creating and recording music!
@@tomulluss thank you for this!
@@YSBG_ U R Welcome. If I can help you Im here.
All my equipment for now is ART ... I'm grateful for quality affordable gear
Glad you’re enjoying your gear! ART doesn’t spend a lot on promotion (so we don’t hear a lot about their gear), but I have generally found it to be far superior than price would suggest. You can make great sounding music with ART. Cheers!
For mixing, First piece of gear to purchase is a master bus compressor. No doubt.
If you do this and think your mix sounds no different id suggest staying in the box with your plugins, your not ready for outboard yet.
Definitely can't go wrong with a good bus compressor for mixing! Cheers!
i think the point about a compressor is great advice. in a lot of cases, aside the microphone(which should have been #1), its usually the most expensive. if you can save up and get a CL 1B, getting the neve 1073 after wont seem like as big a save. for me, I have my mic and my pre and need a compressor now. I'm just going to have to go hybrid for now with my Telefunken into my 737 and use UAD's comps on the way in.
I’m with you on the microphone. Everything stacks up and you get the best incremental upgrades when you start with a great source. The great thing is that we can all build our rigs up over time adding just the right pieces while taking advantage of just how good plugins have become. I am he first person to admit I love analog gear, but I do have to say that using both UAD on the Apollo and native (plus a few others), I don’t think we aren’t suffering too much with plugins along the way… Cheers!
my first outboard gear was three pream/interfaces!
it didn't come together until i bought my 1st compressor, the dbx 1066 - user-controls up the ying-yang!
There really is nothing like getting your first outboard compressor! Cheers!
Any recommendations for affordable transformer preamps on master bus? The TransX isn't available anymore :(
I'm looking to figure out compressors as a part of my sound design and taming live sound. Rather than incorporating a computer and messing with interfaces, I'm trying to discover what's available whether desktop, rack mount, eurorack, or pedal format. There do seem to be far more (stereo) options in rack mount than other formats. That's ignoring the million mono guitar pedals with only 3 controls.
This was very timely for me and I appreciate the info.
I will check some other of your videos and have subscribed.
I have been considering a tube headphone amp to function as you did the mic preamp. Do you have any pros or cons for this?
Thanks and I am glad to hear you are enjoying my videos.
You can use a tube headphone amp as an insert but the setup depends on the available connections on the amp. Most headphone amplifiers use unbalanced inputs and have either headphone level only or headphone level plus auxiliary unbalanced outputs. Connecting balanced and unbalanced inputs and outputs is not ideal and can result in distortion as can using a headphone output as a line out. ART makes a balanced/unbalanced converter with impedance matching and level control to address this issue. www.artproaudio.com/product/cleanbox-pro-dual-channel-level-converter/ You can also use a 2 channel DI box to convert unbalanced headphone output to a mic level balanced signal to connect back to preamps on your audio interface. Here is an example: www.radialeng.com/product/prod2 If on the other hand, your headphone amplifier does have balanced connections (such as the Monolith Liquid Platinum), you will be able to make the connections. Depending on the input and output connectors themselves, adapters are sometimes required. Hope this helps out!
@@askdrtk Thanks much for the feedback! I will be using it in IO and routing back into my interface. I think the headphone stereo out may do the trick for now. I need stereo and a 2 channel mic preamp is starting to look out of budget for now.
which daw in this video at 0:29
Studio one
@@gamerscontakt1972it is not studio one for sure
Is the TRANS X ART.. on the final product of this particular track?
Yes, in this example the TX is the last insert on the 2 bus. Normally I use other hardware after inserting preamps (EQ, SPL Big, and Bus Compressor), but for this demo I wanted the sound of the TX to come across. Cheers!
@@askdrtk sounds good! a nice subtle thickness
I can hear the difference with the preamp on the master bus through the speaker on my phone. Wow.
Thanks for posting. At the end when you demo'd the TransX on the mix bus, was that the difference from just engaging it with everyything set neutral or did you tweak the knobs before engaging? I am looking for my first piece of outboard gear and this piece of kit has peaked my interest. Cheers.
could you show us how to route the preamp to the stereo channel?
want to run my final mixes through like you did
Hi mate, great video! Can you give me a sight of how you do your connections for the masterbuss? Im on cubase as well, but the main problem is to figure out how to connect the inns and outs properly. Thanks a lot for this video 🙏🏿
I was thing about getting this Universal Audio 4-710d 4-Channel Microphone Preamp
I have been pleased with my 710 and have thought about swapping it for a 4-710d. The compression on the 4-710d works well with a variety of sources and UA haven't "overdone it" for tracking imo. I haven't tested the conversion on the digital IO, but I would expect it to be good coming from UA. I like that line inputs 5-8 are also provided to maximize the digital IO. TO me the 4-710d is a compelling choice...
Fantastic! I had to get rid of my BAE dual pre and my ISA 440 mkii, but I did keep my 1176 from warm audio. If I'm gonna be on a budget, I choose that tool as the one to be always using on front end.
As for mentioning the noncommonality between older units and the function being what really sells them all these years, I was just thinking, I hope he mentions that, right before you said it! In fact, what I just argued with someone the other day was that those older units are more about a workflow than a specific frequency spectrum.
What are your thoughts on something like a channel strip (or pair of channel strips) for everything: on the way in, on the mix bus and when mastering?
Channel strips are an excellent option (they didn't make my first gear recommendation only due to complexity of controls/cost in some cases) but otherwise I highly recommend them. I look for flexible IO on the channel strip so I can normal all of the insert points through a patch bay which then allows the use of the channel in its entirety or to split up/ combine the various available effects. For an all in one solution (track, mix bus, master) I recommend transformer-based preamp, inductor EQ, and VCA or optical compressor. Tube preamps are better suited to recording vs mix bus use imo whereas a transformer preamp is useful for both recording and mix bus. For mastering, I am looking to bypass the preamp section. Of course there has to be give and take based on cost and flavor you prefer (Neve, SSL, etc.). Channel strip in combination can also be a good option. For example, you can create a pretty nice SSL front end for your DAW with a pair of SSL XLogic Alpha channel strips and then add dynamics with either an SSL bus compressor (clones such as AudioScape and Warm are good options) or even something like an elysia xpressor or as an affordable option, an ART TransY are good options. An SSL front end with preamps, EQ, dynamics, limiting, and harmonic drive all for around $2700 is going to provide great results and you can do about the same if you prefer a for "Neve" like sound. Sorry for the lengthy response, but a few ideas anyways...
@@askdrtk Very helpful and much appreciated! I’m looking at trading a lot of old gear for a Neve Shelford. I know it’s super high end but I think it covers everything.
All good. The Shelford channel is one of the best channel strips for recording available, and a pair (while pricey) would make a fantastic front end. The inductor EQ is outstanding and the input transformer Neve used on the preamp delivers some of the best tone (especially lower frequencies) I have heard. Well worth the upgrade... Let me know what you think when you make the switch.
I just realized I’ve been in this game so long I’ve gone from hearing “ You may be excited to ditch your analog gear try all these new amazing digital plug ins” to hearing “ You may be excited to ditch the digital plug ins and dive right into outboard analog gear”. It’s literally come full circle 😂😂😂😂😂
Great info! Your video & edit look and sound impressive.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Sorry I’m new to this but is it possible to have outboard gear setup for both tracking and for mixing later (as an insert)at once so that I don’t have to change anything?
whats a good starter set of outboard gear for master bus output, I only produce and mix music/beats in the box, dont do much live recording.
What would be some nice starter pieces?
SSL Fusion
great video! thanks for the info
Thanks! Glad to to help out!
Thanks for this vid ! Somehow I didn't understand why you place preamps/compressors on the master bus (daw) if you wan't track/record synths/drum machines for example ?
Glad to help out! The idea behind placing hardware on the 2-bus is to impart the saturation, harmonics, and compression analog circuits introduce into the sound of the digital mixes we create in our DAWs. We use analog hardware when recording for much the same reasons although often more so with microphones vs line level sources like synths and drum machines. That said, using an outboard preamp and compressor with a drum machine can make the recording sound a bit less like a machine if that is what you are going for. In the end it is a creative process as much as a technical one. Plugins are fantastic, but imo the combination of plugins/analog gear is capable of producing the sounds we have been enjoying for years, often with less work than using one or the other. Only my thoughts, but I hope this helps out. Cheers!
@@askdrtk thanks I see, but during tracking process why not an insert channel of each track with it's own parameters of the hardware within the DAW instead of masterbus ? what is a 2-bus ? Thank you!!
Really informative video. So I'm looking to get some outboard gear. I've currently only just got an Art Pro MPA II preamp running through an Auident ID22. I record mainly rap vocals with some singing sometimes, was wondering what compressor would be best just to help it sit in the mix better On the way in and make the vocals pop abit more. Shall I go with an LA2A or 1176 (clones as can't afford the real one). Your response would be appreciated thank you.
Both are great choices but I find the LA2A to be a bit smoother on rap and other vocals (some exceptions for vocals with sharp transients - some metal, etc...) Both the Warm Audio WA-2A and Audioscape OPTO are great choices around the $1k usd price point (both reliable and good audio quality/compression characteristics). Lindell Audio has a new LIN2A clone for $699. Based on my experience with their LIN76, I expect the LIN2A to perform very well but I haven't tested one yet (only thing is it has only 1/4" jacks, no XLR - minor complaint). The Klark Teknik 2A-KT is the most affordable at $379 usd, but I've heard mixed opinions about the output stage being weak (some say all good, others say no headroom). I haven't tried the 2A-KT myself, but I have found other gear of theirs to be considerably better than expected for the price. Hope this helps out.
@@askdrtk Ah you're a legend for replying. I actually ended up getting the GAP COMP 3A as it's abit of 2a and 76 mixed in one sorta say and at a very good price. Can't wait to try it out and again, thank you for your help you've just earned a sub!
That GAP COMP 3A is really nice gear. The main difference between the 3A and 2A is the 3A is solid state vs the 2A is tube based. The 3A has a cleaner / more transparent sound whereas the 2A is a bit more saturated. Otherwise, same opto compression which will work very well on Rap. If you get a chance, let me know what you think once you have a chance to try it out and most importantly, enjoy your new 3A!
@@askdrtk ok will do, should be arriving by next Monday. I'll keep in touch!
@@askdrtk Man, I've been LOVING this thing. 6 months later and it's doing just what I was looking for 😀 . So now.....I'm hungry for more Gear to bring it up a notch haha. Was looking at the SSL Fusion with some sort of bus compressor; ART PRO VLA II or ART TransX. What would you recommend (for mix bus only)?
I use the trans X on my mixbus as well, into the warm bus comp and 2 EQP KT’s. Curious; what impedance are you setting for the pre amp on your mixbus ?
I have the Transx impedance set at 600ohm. It is connected to my interface outputs using a Radial stereo DI box (150ohm output impedance). I also use a set of EQPs, a TK Audio BC501-Ltd bus comp, and finally an SPL Big on my mixbus.
How can I run a LINE LEVEL stereo signal from my mixer master outs through the ART TransX? It only has mic and instruments inputs. If you can help me out I'd appreciate it. 🙏
you either want a direct box to turn your impedance to microphone level or a reamp box to turn your impedance to instrument level. both are handy to have around and some companys make a box that does both.
What do you feel about summing mixers?
..what was the song playing during the demo sequence?? That was a banger.
it was good. i wonder what the name is
Fantastic video. Excellent content
As always, much appreciated. I’m glad you enjoyed this topic.
I got your reply and bought Aphex 230 but I have Issue with it as the noise from out side thru the mic is very load and I turn the Depth down I could not record and if I turn on Depth Nob no good vocal quality I got and there is humming sound I heard .There is no return policy of Reverb so I feel I lost money until I sell it out but very hard to sell. Thanks.
It sounds like a ground loop issue. It could be an internal short (which does happen especially when gear is shipped around), but it could also be external. Does the noise change if you move the your power cables around or when holding them? It may also be worth trying a different outlet. If either of these makes a difference, you may be able to solve the issue with a Hum X or similar isolation power bar.
@@askdrtk Sir, is it advisable to buy the plugin XVOX for better recording? Because I bought Aphex 230 but have an issue so I claim for refund on Reverb. Please help me what is the best way to record means Preamp( but which one? ) or a plugin like XVOX. I want to hear my original Indian-style songs on RUclips “ Jitendrasinh Thakor ( Sisodia ) I am retired 68 years old. I use just use a condenser Neumann TLM 49 and Focusrite 6i6 2nd Generation and Reaper DAW. After listening please suggest what should I do. I watch everyday your videos. Thanks.
I enjoyed listening to your music, your vocals have a very pleasing tone. The combination of the TLM 49 with your voice is very good. While I have not used it, the XVOX channel strip plugin appears to have all of the necessary features to process your recordings. That being said, your microphone will benefit from a superior preamp compared to the built-in preamp in your Scarlett. I would recommend a Neve 1073 style preamp with inductor EQ combination. This will help bring out the best from your microphone and I believe will be a very good fit for your voice. You can then use compression and other effects in Reaper as needed when you are mixing. My first recommendation in a reasonable price range is the Warm Audio WA-73EQ which sells for 799 USD. Another very similar unit that is a bit less expensive is the Golden Age PREQ73 which sells for 599 USD. Both of these preamp / EQ combinations can deliver excellent results from the TLM 49 and will give your vocals a smooth polished tone.
@@askdrtk please send me your Email so that I can send you $25 ( that much I can afford ) as you help me by giving reply all the time. Thanks and I like your Videos.
I feel like at first you said an 1176 compressor or something like one. Then around the 5 and a half or so you said a mic pre..lol. I’m lost
Great content! question how did you connect the ssl fusion and ssl plus compressor because when I hit the insert button on the ssl fusion my audio goes off can you please help me out? 🙏
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! To use the Bus+ compressor as an insert on the Fusion you need to connect as follows:
1. Connect Line Outs from your audio interface to the Inputs on the Fusion.
2. Connect the Insert Sends from the Fusion to the Inputs on the Bus+.
3. Connect the Outputs from the Bus+ to the Insert Returns on the Fusion.
4. Connect the Outputs from the Fusion to Line Ins on your audio interface.
This will allow you to use the Fusion with and without the Bus+ by pressing Insert on the Fusion. Hope this helps out!
@@askdrtk Wow thank you so much I appreciate you. It helped out 🙏
How can I run a LINE LEVEL stereo signal from my mixer master outs through the ART TransX? It only has mic and instruments inputs...🤷♂
I use a 2 channel (stereo) DI box I with line level inputs (the Radial Pro AV2 is a good quality example of this type of adapter). It takes two line level inputs and provides two mic level outputs for your TransX and is transformer isolated to prevent hum. I hope this helps out!
Woah, I totally thought mic preamps were literally just to power and color microphones. I never heard of them being used on a master bus and I have been mixing for almost 8 years.
Yes, I'm seeing more and more of this as hybrid has become more popular. Try a pair across your 2-bus and listen for saturation and natural compression. I use 73s and really like them on rock, alternative, country, etc... Cheers!
which desktop mic preamp is better for voice over? focusrite isa one or universal audio 710? im going to combine that with dbx 286s and senheiser mkh416
The UA 710 is clean on the SS side until you begin to drive the gain anywhere past 5.5 after which noise floor starts to become apparent. The ISA One has more gain available vs the 710 and so you do not have to drive the preamp as much. Any time you need to drive the preamp gain near to its maximum, you will hear considerably more noise compared to only using 50-70 percent of its gain. Comparing the two with gain-hungry dynamic microphones and more sensitive condenser microphones I have found I can get a cleaner signal out of the ISA One, again, largely because the ISA One has more gain available. Another great option is the Cranborne Camden EC1. It is a very clean preamp (cleaner than both the ISA One and 710) and gets a lot of use for voiceover where pristine clarity is important.
OMG,, Where did you find that WA73-EQ, I have the same unit, however, mine has white buttons, I would love to have had one with the black buttons.
A bit of “custom magic” for YT… Cheers!
Really enjoyed this but still have questions... maybe somebody can help me as I am getting really confused:
I want to be able to connect two 19 inch rack pieces of gear, a Compressor and a EQ to my DAW master bus in Ableton through my M-Audio Air 192|6... will I be able to do it with this interface which only has 2 ins (already taken by my Korg Minilogue XD) and 2 outs (monitor outs, already used)... or will I need a mixer? and how to I go about connecting them? daisy chain?... thanks for any help!
Glad you enjoyed my video! To connect outboard gear you will need an interface with at least one pair of inputs and on pair of outputs that are not in use. For mixing purposes you could swap the inputs from the Korg to the outboard gear, but outputs for your monitors are still required, so this is a no go with your interface. A mixer will not help in this situation as you still would need inputs and outputs for routing through your master bus. If you are planning to use both exclusively on your master bus daisy-chaining is a good option as only one pair of available inputs and outputs will be required and only one trip in and out through the converters in the interface will be required. My suggestion is to get an interface with at least 4 inputs and 4 outputs (more if you plan on adding other gear in the future). I also did a video where I went through connecting an outboard compressor to an audio interface in the way you are wanting to do. It is only a single channel compressor and I used a Focusrite Scarlett 4i4 to demonstrate, but it may help give you an idea on the connections. ruclips.net/video/bbslTJU43yA/видео.html Hope this helps out!
@@askdrtk thank you so much! Really appreciate your time. I will check and decide soon!
@@askdrtk Just one thing... something like the Behringer RX1602 16 chanel mixer will help with providing the necessary inputs - considering I will be adding another 2 synth modules in the next few months - but then I would have to place and daisy chain the 2 outboard units after the Behringer and into the ins of my audio interface right? I just dont want to get another audio interface so thinking of the best setup... thanks!
Yes, you can daisy-chain the outboard gear between the mixer and interface. This approach is for tracking only and will allow you to record with EQ and compression but not make changes later or use the gear when mixing. This will also provide the least latency when recording if you want to monitor yourself with EQ and compression.
@@askdrtk Got it, thanks again!!
Was actually exactly wondering today what would TransX sound on a mixbus... Since seing Capi Heiders.... Thanks!
Glad I could help out! Those FD312 H2’s are nice sounding preamps. The TransX is one of those pieces that quietly offers a lot of value for the price and may be one of the best values in affordable two channel API style preamps. I’ve never had the opportunity to audition them side-by-side but it would be interesting.
@@askdrtk I have the pro MPA II for a couple of years now, I use it alot on different things, it's nice on accoustic guitars and bass
That MPA II is another example of ART gear that far overperforms its price imo. I find ART gear generally doesn't get the attention it deserves, but if you look closely you see it in many studios.
Great video! I'm curious... Did you use some sort of external pad when running a line-level mix bus signal through the ART TransX preamp? Thanks!
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it! For the demo I am using a 2 channel passive DI box (Radial) to convert signal level and impedance for the TransX’s inputs. Cheers!
@@askdrtk Awesome - thanks for the reply!
@@askdrtk Is it possible you can make a video how to actually connect and setup the DI box to the preamp? 🙏🙏🙏
Will do!
i have all my analog recording gear connected with xlr cables from my mic. is this good?
ì use mic - pre amp - subtractive eq - fast compressor - slow compressor - additive eq - interface.
is this good for vocal recording?
would it be better to use an analog mixer instead of they all connected via xlr cable? i sub u bro and like
I suspect you have short cables between your pre, compressors, and EQs, so XLR cables should not be an issue. I would however recommend using a TRS cable between your final additive EQ and audio interface as a precaution so as not to accidentally send phantom power from the interface into the additive EQ. An analog mixer is also a good option, but will likely not have enough built-in effects to match your current chain and if you start using inserts on the mixer to patch-in outboard gear, you might as well stay with what you have now if you have the sound setup the way you like it. I hope this helps out, Cheers!
Anyone ever used a pair of tb12 on the master channel before?
I pulled out the wire and it bended, but I hope it dident damage the record player, I also forgot to turn on the 48hz button, I stopped playing for almost a year because I dident know what to do😅, but why can’t someone invente a mainstream good quality and affordable wire less things were you don’t have to use any wires, everyone is trying to invente something brand new or sci fi this or that but what about something simple and practical that already exist but that is mainstream and has a good quality were you don’t use wires but it’s simple and affordable to use
Great content!
I have been thinking about getting my first analog gear for some time, but still not sure which way to go, maybe 500 series, and for sure a pair of Mic preamps, and compressors sound like the way to start
BTW, what would you think about using a "Universal Audio Volt 276" as outbord gear (2 channels, each Mic preamp with a 1176 style compressor)?
Could be used as the Input to Record with another Audio Interface (using Line Inputs), or for post-production too... saw someone using this kind of units that way, sounded interesting, these have very lfew controls, and the price is lower than some 500 series, anyway its just an interesting idea
Thanks for your videos!
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed my video. 500 series can be a great option for both space savings and value, not to mention the convenience of controls organized in a chain… I had the same thought when I reviewed the 276 and did some testing using the 276 as an insert on a few different tracks (vocals, guitar, drums) at that point. I was able to get some good results and I thought about making a video specifically for that (I just haven’t circled back to it yet…) If you need some basic compression and some vibe, the 276 packs a lot of value.
@@askdrtk Thanks, and it would be great to see your video about using the 276 as an insert or even a mic preamp input with another interface 🙂
I really like your informative content on audio production and audio gear!
I've been interested in checking out the FMR RNC 1773 as a first analog gear for my set up, my goal with that purchase is to include some compression on the way in when I record vocals, acoustic guitar, and use the compressor within the mix as well to even out dynamics and make the post processing a less difficult
Have you had any experience with the RNC 1773? Would you recommend it as a first outboard gear on a budget? I just record straight through my audio interface and I'm looking to implement analog gear
Thanks, I'm glad to hear you have been enjoying my content! I have used the RNC and will say that is is an excellent choice in the affordable category for a first outboard stereo compressor. It can be very transparent when needed but still add some extra crunch when you want. The processing is done in an analog signal path with digital control which makes it very easy to recall settings which is nice to have when you are switching back and forth between tracking and mixing. I will be posting a full review on it, but if you are ready to go I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up. I Hope this helps out, Cheers!
@@askdrtk Thank you so much for your recommendation and sharing your experience
I'll gladly give it a go if I have the money to purchase it, more power to your content man!
Peace appreciate the content very informative. I’m a newbie to outboard gear just bought my first two pieces a warm audio wa 2a and wa 76 want to incorporate a mic pre was considering the warm audio wa mpx 2 saw your reply to another comment what you think and what are your suggestions. Thanks again and good info much success to you.
Thanks! You are off to a good start with the 2a and 76, they are the classic go to for serial compression for a good reason... The choice of mic pre depends on the character (if any) you are looking for. The MPX and MPX 2 are some of the best new preamps I have heard this year if you are looking for a warm character with the ability to dial in saturation and harmonic distortion plus the tape circuit rounds off peaks like the analog tape we used back in the day. I recently spent some time with one and will be getting one for my studio. That said, it is a character box and only the right choice if the what I described sounds like what you are looking for. A 73 style preamp such as the WA273-EQ or Heritage HA73EQX2 will provide classic Neve warmth. If you prefer something with more punch, a 312 style preamp such as the WA-412 or BAE 312A Dual are good choices. I hope this helps out with a few options.
@@askdrtk Peace and thank you for the response it’s greatly appreciated you are a God send providing the service and knowledge of information I’ll look into these the reason I mentioned mpx2 is because of the punch it gave to drums it gave them a dirty gritty sound also on bass it gave it deep rich feel that you felt in your soul if you understand what I’m saying. Thanks again definitely will have a zoom meeting with you. Peace and blessings to you my guy.
Refreshing to hear someone being honest about vintage vs reissue vs clone rack gear for a change. Too many gearslutz types sniffing corks for no reason other than to justify the princely sums they spend to themselves. And big ups on the TransX pres, it's crazy the value for money they offer. Those things can go up against anything and hold their own. ART really hit it out of the park with those.
You really got me thinking...do I just want to keep Tracking and Mixing with Nebula...Running everything through 2 API channles $7000 worth the money
Your basically getting a
Double Mono - Stereo Mixer Channel
2 Pres
Double Mono (Stereo 3 Band EQ and 525 API Comps)
From A High end point of view just seems esier and less time consuming to use two API Strips
6:41 that quality i can hear it through the youtube compression
Glad the difference translates well.
@@askdrtk it sounds amazing i meant to say i can even hear it with the crappy youtube compression this is the type of quality i want
Really great advice here in this video and a solid starting point for sure! Love my Warm Audio WA273 (no EQ version) with my Revive Audio Pro VLA II (modded) and my Audio-Scape EQP-A (pair). They were affordable and I use them all the time for tracking, mixing and mastering so they are used a lot. Can't recommend the Pro VLA II and Audio-Scape enough .... really has been solid.
Thanks, that's a great collection you can get a lot done with! I am very impressed with what Chris and his team over at @AudioScapeEngineeringCo are doing. If they could ever scale up without changing the gear I think a lot of manufacturers would get very nervous...but scaling up is kind of the opposite of what makes their gear so great... Cheers!
@@askdrtk Agreed!
Warm audio is piece of shiit
Power switching/conditioning?
Absolutely the first thing to get. I consider this a purchase with the computer and audio interface, but if that was not the case (and I know it often is not) power conditioning is a must before adding outboard. Cheers!
Thanks for making the video!
My pleasure, glad to help out!
I guet the wa 273 ( so i have the preamps and the Stereo eq and trans for the master bus 😊 great recomendación )
them i have the wa bus comp ( ssl G clone )🎉 thanks for your vídeos...
Nice chain on your master bus! Glad you're enjoying my videos!
The 500 series is a great start also...rnd 511 for like 699... great preamp.
Absolutely...500 series is a great opportunity to build a recording chain and then mix bus processing. Cost and space efficient, which are always good things in our home and project studios... Cheers!
@@askdrtk your channel is quickly becoming my favorites for audio gear and reviews. I have a lot of gear and have been thinking of starting a gear review channel myself. Thanks for inspiration.
It really depends on your budget.
If I were starting out today, I would recommend the Apollo Duet. Use the Unison technology and get a couple of UAD channel strips. Then grab their UAD 1176, La-2A, Studer, Massive Passive, and SSL Stereo Compresser. I use those on every mix and it’ll cost you less than $2,000 if you purchase those plugs when UA puts them on sale on Black Friday.
If you really want to get hardware: the BAE mic pre/eq, 2 Distressors, and the SSL Fusion.
High end: 2 Shelford Channels and the RNP MBP.
great video. thank you sir
Great video, helped me a lot! Sorry for the (probably) dumb quesion: I want to color my in-the-box mixes with two outboard neve-clones. Which inputs should I use on the outboard modules? The mic ins of the preamps or the inserts of the lunchbox? Does it matter?
Thanks, I'm glad it helped out! You will want to use the line level inputs (if available) and outputs from the clones. Using the insert inputs will bypass the preamp and the coloration it provides - not what you want... Depending on which clones you have, there may be line inputs either separate from the mic inputs or as part of a combo jacks. There may also be a mic/line switch. Using line inputs / the line mode is the preferred method due to impedance of line level signals. If you are unsure, let me know with clones you have and I will be more specific. Cheers.
@@askdrtk Thank you so much for your help. I got the Golden Age Premier Pre Amps and I'm very happy with the results AND it is a lot of fun playing around with different settings. Are you going to make a dedicated video about further considerations for using outboard gear on the 2-Bus/Master Bus? I am currently thinking about what would be the best second step in order to add analog vibe to my digital mixes. Is it an SSL Bus Comp.? Surely not a bad idea, however it is considered to be farely "clean" while I want it to add colour. Is it a Pultec EQ? It is supposed to add a good amount of "vibe". However, due to the very limited number bands I might need an additional 4-band EQ after which I need to rob a bank for. I would love to see a video about your thoughts. Best wishes from Germany, Martin
Hi Martin, Adding 73 style preamps like the GA Premiers was a great choice and I am glad you are happy with the results. Bus compressors, EQs, tape emulators, and more are definitely among the next steps. I will be making many more videos on the subject with a variety of 500 series and rack gear. I have a new 500 series chassis video coming next week. Thanks for the suggestions. Cheers. Todd
@@askdrtk Hey Todd, fantastic, can't wait to hear your thoughts!
The 7:26 long dissertation takes 2 minutes to say nothing, followed by a comment that specific gear wouldn't be mentioned, then goes on to speak of the LA2A and 1176 style compressors.... too vague, mate.
Thanks so much for this video. It was extremely enlightening. After a lot of consideration I ended up going with an API channel strip for my first piece of serious analog gear. So far I love it. Some of the best sounds I’ve ever recorded are coming out of it. At some point I’d like to upgrade my interface so that I have more I/O capability and can really explore the versatility of the unit for mixing purposes.
Glad you enjoyed it and solid choice on the API strip! Great IO on the channel strip, adding more interface IO is a natural for this... Cheers!
Good stuff!
good video. Sr thanks! good points here!!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Love the videos and not here for hate either but a compressor as first outboard gear? I almost thought you were joking! Honestly guys, get a good preamp first. You can compress in the box. Once you get used to it, buy a hardware compressor. Running a studio, a hardware compressor was the absolute last thing I bought.
Glad you’re enjoying my videos. My compressor recommendation is for those that mix only and have been compressing ITB, outboard preamp for anyone recording is my recommendation as well. Cheers!
@@askdrtk Happy Holidays keep up the work!
very well done
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Wowww you are great, GOD has given you such a awesome gifts of wisdom and knowledge on all this different gear that is amazing i am learning a lot so happy to have met you.
Thank you for all work and time you put in to help ALL of us who are watching you..👍
Recommending a 5 thousand dollar compressor as your 1st piece of outboard gear is wild and outrageous. This is not for the average viewer.
When did he recommend any specific piece of gear? He recommended getting a compressor first and mentioned that many companies make affordable versions of classic gear.
Exactly, this is for the Sound Engineer/producer, people who take their career seriously.
First compressor
Fairchild
😂
@@maxatoriumeven then
Warm audio
Distressor covers so much in comp.
One of the most flexible options available…everywhere for a good reason. Cheers!
Yes, great analog special unit device can make a huge difference to your boring, dead mix. :)) I bought Steinberg's UR RT 2 audio interface with Neve's transformers and I just drive my raw mix through it for some analog sugar spice destroying that zombie dead digital land ... :))) You have to hit "the sweet spot" for optimum resoult; it can be easily too much ...
The beauty of transformers...they affect audio in ways that do not happen in the digital domain! Cheers!
Great content!!!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Sounds better and cleaner without the Trans X
Very Very less subs on this great channel !!!
Much appreciated!
Wow the difference
you did not show us how to
This is not for your average viewer.
The truth is that most outboard gear is fading out to ITB.
Why not just mix properly ITB? A 400$ preamp (+ stereo DI and other things you don't mention) will not make or break a mix.
yo wtf why does he barely blink?? hahaha
buy clones, spending 20k on “the real thing” for your tiny home studio is just stupid, warm audio gear is as good as anything despite what anyone says, if its good enough for pros like joe caroll its good enough for me
Like it
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Dude giving a whole lesson. Why do they do this. Get to the info
I don't know how to say this well, but the audio in this video makes my head hurt. I'm sorry, I can't listen to it.
Want an informative video. Just a lot of talk about NOTHING
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