@@jamesthelivingplanet Ridley cannot be a heavy, being lighter than Samus for me automatically makes him not a heavy. If you’re dying before Samus who’s a chick in an armor suit you’re not heavy
Don’t think Ive ever seen the skewer sweet-spot animation in a real match before. Caught me totally off gaurd! One of the best freaking animation in the darn game in terms of evoking emotion, it’s just so raw!
1:40 wait... Incineroar has super armor during his taunt pose after a successful Side B? Been maining him since the beginning of Ultimate and have never seen a situation like this.
@@buttbutt3000 uuh.. Yeah well, it's not really this specific thing that makes him "busted". Beside he's far from busted, he has an incredible moveset and frame data but it is extremely well kept in check with his slow ground and air speeds.
Incin is just so fucking bad. It’s just frustrating to watch. Skyjay better find a new main if he hopes to ever win a major. His obvious talent is wasted on a character like Incin. Sorry if my comment offends anyone.
@@MidianVGC I think inceneroar isn't that bad. If you analyze the match, most of those deaths were mistakes. Also I think Incineroar should be played agressively, but not how skyjay was playing him. Most of the agression I mean should come from fear. Incin has a lot of good moves. Playing slow would benefit Incin greatly. Skyjay tries to make too many hype plays just to please the people watching and ends up paying for it every time.
@@buttbutt3000 you missed the point you're trying to make in your own defense of Incineroar. Incineroar is bad BECAUSE he has to take those risks to take stocks and win neutral. His options are incredibly linear and doesn't have any advanced movement tech to take advantage of. Whereas characters higher on tier lists don't have those big risks in neutral or off stage, have consistent kill confirms, and above all else, SPEED.
Can't count the number of times Skyjay tried to dash attack the roll-away just to get shield grabbed and thrown off stage, which is the worst spot for Incin.
@@HKSilksong Yeah I get that, that's why I said I'm amazed it didn't stop him from doing it. If it did stop him from doing it, then that would be worse conditioning.
Skyjay seem to panic if that makes sense, played way more defensive and didn't as many NAIR, spins, side b or combos. Heck even grabs which Incin is the best at.
Really amazing movements from Skyjay using Incineroar as always!!! I used to use the Back Air only offstage but he uses it almost the entire game. I use more the Side B and Darkest Lariat to ran off situations.
As someone who’s participated in a few low-tier-only things (mostly at my school and battle arenas), I can confirm that they are amazingly fun. Absolute slug-fests and a joy to both watch and play.
what a run. watched every Skyjay set. side note anyone who went to this event, was the projector watchable? on video here it looks like pretty awful visibility 😂
Command Grab suicides like Ridley, Gannon, or Kirby always kill the user first. Nair probably wanted to release Skyjay but was just a tad too late, allowing him to recover.
I hate incineroar. 78% from a SINGLE revenge is crazy. Not to mention he can command grab in the air, spawning a fence in the air while lucario cant with his sideb.
Lol It's interesting how many people seem surprised at the characters for grands in this tourney. Yeah, the meta is much less restrictive at lower levels. Stuff like this can easily happen with low-mid tier players, but it would never happen in a major stacked with top players.
I was a little disappointed as well, seemed like they both flubbed some easy punishes. Maybe they were second guessing themselves because both characters are uncommon match-ups?
If you wanna see a better match between these two just look for the set they played at Smash VERTEX. Easily one of the funniest sets in ultimate's history.
this grand finals is refreshing, as this is definitely some off meta characters.
There’s something so raw about seeing 2 heavies beat the shit out of each other. Super entertaining
Ridley isnt a heavy. Its just a big body
He is a heavy.
Incineroar weight value is 116 while Ridley is 107 under Samus which 108 at the heavy tier
@@jamesthelivingplanet Ridley cannot be a heavy, being lighter than Samus for me automatically makes him not a heavy. If you’re dying before Samus who’s a chick in an armor suit you’re not heavy
Call them big bois so the nerds don't get offended
So weird that actually interesting characters make it to grand finals
My two mains and my two favorite pros
What do you mean Palu number 40000 isn’t interesting lol.
Mexico showing once again that "low tier" and "mid tier" characters don't mean you can't win
Don’t think Ive ever seen the skewer sweet-spot animation in a real match before. Caught me totally off gaurd! One of the best freaking animation in the darn game in terms of evoking emotion, it’s just so raw!
agreeeed
And that rawness makes it so satisfying to land. Just a big ol’ stab in the gut.
Anyone have a timestamp?
@@gojira6759 16:35
They both equally know their characters and it’s amazing to watch
i loved this unorthodox grand finals
1:40 wait... Incineroar has super armor during his taunt pose after a successful Side B? Been maining him since the beginning of Ultimate and have never seen a situation like this.
Incineroar is absolutely busted like... I've hated the character even before the buffs
@@buttbutt3000 uuh.. Yeah well, it's not really this specific thing that makes him "busted". Beside he's far from busted, he has an incredible moveset and frame data but it is extremely well kept in check with his slow ground and air speeds.
Even Skyjay wasn’t ready for that lol
@@buttbutt3000 not busted. Slowest character in the game
Wtf? I never see that before even tho I main him too. So interesting
Nair is downright inspirational to watch, a big reason for most ridley mains picking him up
This is extremely unexpected and refreshing seeing a Ridley VS Incineroar Grand Finals in a pro tournament.
First match shows how painful incineroar recovery is, swan diving full speed to his death 😭
Incin is just so fucking bad. It’s just frustrating to watch. Skyjay better find a new main if he hopes to ever win a major. His obvious talent is wasted on a character like Incin. Sorry if my comment offends anyone.
@@MidianVGC sometimes is not about winning and is not like Skyjay is not actually getting results with the character. So yeah.
@@MidianVGC I think inceneroar isn't that bad. If you analyze the match, most of those deaths were mistakes. Also I think Incineroar should be played agressively, but not how skyjay was playing him. Most of the agression I mean should come from fear. Incin has a lot of good moves. Playing slow would benefit Incin greatly. Skyjay tries to make too many hype plays just to please the people watching and ends up paying for it every time.
@@buttbutt3000 you missed the point you're trying to make in your own defense of Incineroar.
Incineroar is bad BECAUSE he has to take those risks to take stocks and win neutral. His options are incredibly linear and doesn't have any advanced movement tech to take advantage of.
Whereas characters higher on tier lists don't have those big risks in neutral or off stage, have consistent kill confirms, and above all else, SPEED.
@@MakoShiruba DID YOU JUST SAY ITS NOT LIKE SKY JAY ISNT GETTING ANY RESUTLS?! WHAT THE HELL look at pg stats doofus
Can't count the number of times Skyjay tried to dash attack the roll-away just to get shield grabbed and thrown off stage, which is the worst spot for Incin.
Over and over and over
That and the neutral get up at ledge, he got punished almost every single time for that
@@joeshort8023 right? Just mix up with get ups and stop using DA often smh
2 awesome underrepresented characters with their respective best players. This is sick
The amount of times Nair did double jump off ledge in disadvantage state and ate a bair is staggering.
He kept getting punished for that, I'm amazed that didn't stop him from trying it repeatedly.
ipodsucksballs It’s a mix up, the opponent doesn’t expect him to keep doing it
@@HKSilksong Yeah I get that, that's why I said I'm amazed it didn't stop him from doing it. If it did stop him from doing it, then that would be worse conditioning.
You can feel the sweat and the precision in each move. These guys are both sick
God hitting an alolan whip after a counter is pure dopamine
This was so wholesome to watch! 2 lowtier characters player by absolut machines! So much better than seeing Pyra/Mythra or Roy the x time
Roy is hype tho
@@pulse3290 Indeed, but not when you see him for the 12th time in the same event!
What's the meta like?
I stopped playing back in 2020 just now somewhat getting back into it.
@@shackerbenashoor4005 nah still hype
Both characters mid
I play Hero, Roy, Seph, Byleth, Joker but I began with Ridley. Love watching Ridley plays
the character diversity this tourney goes hard
Anyone else out there that co-main Ridley and Incineroar?
I do! Ridley is my main and incineroar is probably my #2
Incin is my nr 1 and dark pit is my nr 2 👍
Incineroar and Ken over here
I main Roar
I mained Ridley since the game came out and incin is my favorite mon so he’s my second main.
As someone who plays both of these characters this makes me very happy to watch haha
19:28 can we appreciate how clever is Nair's recovery when Ridley's facing away from the stage? That angled up-b was very smart
Lmao he used his jump to turn around and do a basic ridley recovery y'all gas anything
Take a shot every time Nair jumps from ledge and gets hit by Skyjay back air
take a shot everytime skyjay neutral get up
Awesome Grands! I Love seeing Nair's Ridley
Same, as a Ridley main I approve of this
Man just that first set got me at the edge of my seat
You can tell they were having actual fun.
LETS GO RIDLEY!
Skyjay seem to panic if that makes sense, played way more defensive and didn't as many NAIR, spins, side b or combos. Heck even grabs which Incin is the best at.
Whoever loses, we all won here.
2 of my favorite characters to play with reach grind finals 🥰
He was not taking advantage of Ridley constantly pushing shield. That grab choke slam is incin’s best move
What an awesome Grand Finals!
yeah! No pythra’s or anything, only hype.
What a slugfest. Now THIS is Ultimate.
Game 2, Nair would have won that game if he didn't go offstage altough Skyjay had lost his jump
Really amazing movements from Skyjay using Incineroar as always!!! I used to use the Back Air only offstage but he uses it almost the entire game. I use more the Side B and Darkest Lariat to ran off situations.
7:45 what is that hitbox
King from Tekken vs Xenomorph from Alien
I want to see low-tier tournaments in Ultimate. I wonder how Ultimate works when the power level is low
As someone who’s participated in a few low-tier-only things (mostly at my school and battle arenas), I can confirm that they are amazingly fun. Absolute slug-fests and a joy to both watch and play.
Rise n Grind did have an official low-tier side of things last week. Was pretty interesting to see different characters play
one of my favorite sets of all time
Ridley Nation, let our names be known
Ridley is mid tier, but Nair don't care he makes it work, good matches
I thought the thumbnail was clickbait, this actually happened wtf lol
what a run. watched every Skyjay set. side note anyone who went to this event, was the projector watchable? on video here it looks like pretty awful visibility 😂
Projector video always turns up terrible on camera, don't worry
^^^ had a feeling that was the case
Love Skyjay's games, when it's good it's great! But his performance is sooo inconsistent!
Blessed grand finals
two low tiers in the grand finals. exciting!
What low tiers?
@@willycheez7218 incin and ridley
@@hackercop188 They're mid
Nair played so good!
These are my 2 favorite pokemon. wonderfull matchup
Finally one of the few Smash Ultimate sets without Pokemon Stadium 2
Big cat vs. big bird.
yes Ridley bird
Que buen tiro, puro talento mexicano
Mexico has the best players lol
Dang!! No pythra or Roy? Dats crazy.
Could’ve grabbed twice the end. Nope. Keep dash attacking the shield lol
RIP - a-fro’s mic set up. Pour some out for the homie.
Who tf is skygirl? No way that thing is a girl?!?!?
Incredibly entertaining matchup. Someone explain to me what happened at 7:21 though--how did Nair die first?
maybe footstool
Command Grab suicides like Ridley, Gannon, or Kirby always kill the user first. Nair probably wanted to release Skyjay but was just a tad too late, allowing him to recover.
Skyjay mashed out of the side B and footstooled
Ist smub or ^nair the best Ridley Player?
Nooooooooooo Skyjay why!!!!!!
7:47 What is that hitbox? Lulz
¿Incineroar no le puede hacer spike?
16:33 Don't forget to get your cat neutered.
POWER
Damn the last two dash attacks were just sad lol
Let's go nair
Woah
I love these goober sets
im sorry i dont mean to be rude but we need a ridley main to commentate this match, so much good gameplay and these guys complaining about a skewer
I hate incineroar. 78% from a SINGLE revenge is crazy. Not to mention he can command grab in the air, spawning a fence in the air while lucario cant with his sideb.
Skyjay coulda won I guess but you need a secondary. The bracket reset was extremely painful to watch. Incinerar off stage is easy pickings.
so 2 low tiers made it huh
No way
Lol It's interesting how many people seem surprised at the characters for grands in this tourney. Yeah, the meta is much less restrictive at lower levels. Stuff like this can easily happen with low-mid tier players, but it would never happen in a major stacked with top players.
Nair actually defeated Sparg0 in Smash world tour Lol, and Skyjay defeated Fatality, and in his last tournament in US defeated Chag and t3 Doom
Mexican power full low tier
Jajajaja que payasos
Lmao the wackest GF characters in a bit
True. Both characters are decent tho, not really any bottom tiers.
There was a tournament on VGBootcamp a few days ago where Grand Finals was Wii Fit versus Duck Hunt...
The gameplay here was really lacking. Neither player played too well, the level of play difference between this and any nonlocal tournament is HUGE
I was a little disappointed as well, seemed like they both flubbed some easy punishes. Maybe they were second guessing themselves because both characters are uncommon match-ups?
I thought that Nair’s creativity in the final 2 matches was phenomenal. Debatable that his fluidity won him the title.
If you wanna see a better match between these two just look for the set they played at Smash VERTEX. Easily one of the funniest sets in ultimate's history.
I mean they're both top 100 players and the best representatives of their respective characters. Not exactly randos.
Nair defeated Sparg0 a few months ago and Skyjay defeated fatality, t3 doom and chag so this are not their best sets but still world top level players
Still wearing masks lol
yea?