Samsung T9 Portable SSD Review: 20GBps, but not on Mac
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The Samsung T9 is a great drive hitting very fast speeds but Mac computers cannot take advantage of the faster speeds because they don't support the USB 3.2 Gen 2 2x2 Standard.
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Damn, I was literally 2 clicks away from purchasing this. Really appreciate the heads up and the recommendation for a Mac-specific drive!
Still a great drive, just gotta pay attention to those port speeds!
I Bought Samsung T9 and excited to transfer a bunch of photos from my iPhone 15pm but every time I transfer photos and videos there's always a copy of IMG file that cannot open and its file size is only 4kb and also has a same file name of the photos that I copied.... could you tell what it is...??? or Do I need to do something... It's really annoying I transfer 1000 photos and there's also 1000 copies of blank files with a file size of 4kb each sorry but I'm not techie hope someone helps... I tried to google it but can't find it...
@adamtalkstech great review and very informative for Mac users. Would the T9 be able to reach close to it's claim speeds on an Intel NUC Pro 13 that has thunderbolt 4 ports or would it face the same limitations? Not sure if the Thunderbolt 4 ports on my NUC are similar to what is on a Mac. I would think the TB4 controller is different but unsure
using the T9 i have riched 3.29Gb/s writing speed and the lowest speed was 1.7Gb/s im impressed that its faster than the speed samsung mentioned 😍😍😍and i started recording and saving videos sent directly to the T9 by using a third party app with s24 ultra thank you samsung for the speed and capabilities you gave us .
T9 is faster than T7 IF you transfer file bigger than 100GB! In my case My VR 4K 60fps file up to 500GB-800GB is 10 Time faster than T7! Now All my T7 is only for long term Storage!
Do u use a MacBook or windows bro ?
sorry my MacBook 2021 m1 has USB 4 up to 40....seems your test have some fails include wrong format of the SSD
Yes it works with usb 4 or thunderbolt 4 but those standards don’t work with usb 3.2 dual lane speeds
I just got the T9 SSD love it
Do we need to do a Software update or will it send notification if needed
I don't get a Pop-up when I plug it it how do we Fix that on W11
I use Microsoft Surface Book 2 15" 1TB
Please Help
I currently have the 2tb T7's. I need another one. The T9 is on sale, cheaper than the T7. So even though I am not able to get the full speeds on my M2 Pro Max, I am still saving money. Adding to my cart. Thanks for the videos.
Totally worth it then!! What capacity T 9 you getting?
@@adamtalkstech the 2Tb was on special so went for that. It’s a nice drive! It feels premium as well.
@@adamtalkstech 2 TEEEE BEEEE
Great video. Perfect timing as I just purchased the T7 Shield & T9 (1T / 1T) about 3 hours ago. I'm testing speeds using the same tool, and using an Apple branded Thunderbolt 4 cable. I'm copying from a SanDisk 1T (800mb/s read) to the T9. But somehow, I'm not transferring anywhere near your claim of 100Gb in ~2mins. Any thoughts or suggestions on what might be the limiting factor here?
My guess is the San disk is slowing you down. For my test I went straight from MacBook hard drive to the t9
@@adamtalkstech still waiting for the 172gb from the Sandisk to finish - then I’ll test that theory with at 67gb local directory! Thanks.
@@koppjoseph that’s crazy. Should not be that slow. Don’t use a thunderbolt 4 cable with usb drives. I’ve had that cause issues before too.
@@adamtalkstech really? I figured with the backwards compatibility, anything above spec is just overkill. Didn’t realize it could be detrimental to transfer speed. Interesting
@@koppjoseph yes I’ve had this issue before. I will test with a tb4 cable and my t9 later and let ya know .
I’m extremely new to PC’s but just bought my first gaming pc from I buy power at Best Buy, will likely exclusively use it for gaming and was wondering is this something you would use to save gaming data as the build I bought only had 1t, I know it’s a silly question but can I store my modern warfare 3 game data on this ?
What do you mean by “due to the dual lane system” ? The thunderbolt 4 ports on the MacBook Pro 2021 14inch have cross/backwards compatibility and is universal with USB 3.0 up to USB 3.2 Gen2 2x2 & even Thunderbolt4, Meaning the mac would easily be able to reach close to the 2000GBps read/write speeds on the Samsung T9 USB 3.2 Gen2x2 ?
Please i beg u to elaborate this dual lane system thing & prove your claims so i make an informed decision
It's backwards compatible meaning the drive will still work, but you can't hit those speeds. It doesn't matter what brand you buy or what enclosure you have. I've had 2x2 San Disk Pro, Samsung, Sabrent, and none of them will do it. Tested on MacBook Pros, Mac Studio, Mac Mini, and MacBook air.
I haven't been able to find an official definition or answer on it as there's a lot of controversy on if it is the Apple Silicon series chip's fault or if it is Thunderbolt 4s implementation of the USB 3.2 standard. @@ifeanyiubah9131
“Thunderbolt 4’s implementation of the USB 3.2 standard” hmm but if that’s the case, doesn’t that mean that the t7 shield should not also come close to its advertised speeds, as the t7 shield is also not in the ‘USB 3.2 standard’ because the t7 Shield is USB 3.2 Gen 2 (not USB 3.2)
No because USB3.2 Gen 2 works with TB4 just not Gen 2 2x2. Its not the same thing. also the names are dumb.@@ifeanyiubah9131
hi there. I use mostly SamsungT7 for 4k editing with my M1pro MBP 2021...it has worked fine but I don't edit really complicated projects. One or two 4k streams and videos under 90 minutes max..so now I want to try the crucial brand. In another video you suggested the X9pro which is also very fast. But I know that Samsung has now the T9 and Crucial the X10 pro which are twice as fast as the previous generation but use the dual lane and macs cannot use take advantage of the speed..so are we mac users out of luck then? the max we can expect is the t7/crucial x9 pro speeds? still good for 4k - but I can see that for mac you recommend the Sandisk professional G40 which is a bit more expensive but it works really fast on a Mac...hmm
Get the g40. I can tell based on your two comments that you need the extra speed. It does get hot but doesn’t overheat. It’s got aluminum construction and is designed not to overheat. Check my review out for all the info. I’ve been using the g40 as my main external drive since I launched this video. ruclips.net/video/16uDgc6XPMY/видео.htmlsi=SQCXOX1n8VBc293t
Hi Adam, I am in the process of replacing my iMac with a M2 Mac Studio - looking for a recommendation on a fast external SSD that will work well with the M2. Many thanks
Have you experienced any blinking red lights on the indicator with this SSD?
I’m not sure if it’s normal but when my laptop is asleep it’ll occasionally flash blue then red
It seems to run fine while I play games from it but I don’t know if there actually just a underlying problem
I have not had this issue.
Random but do you think the LaCie Rugged Pro Thunderbolt 3 would reach close to it’s top speeds of 2800MBps on the MacPro 2021 14” or No since it’s Thunderbolt 3 standards & not Thunderbolt 4 ?
Yes. It should be right in line with 2000-2800. I haven’t been able to get my hands on one yet though
The LaCie Rugged Pro uses USB 3.1 which means it has only a speed of 5 Gbit/s which means 625 MB/s or am I wrong here? @@adamtalkstech
@@GSLPale there’s a version that uses thunderbolt I think
Didi you test the T9 using a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 cable, or did you only test using the included, slower, USB-C cable? There will be a speed difference .
It's not the cable It's the controller that the drive has. Even with a TB3 cable or TB4 cable you are capped at 950ish on mac.
Oh that sucks... at least it's not slower than the T7@@adamtalkstech
Context - I have used t7’s for years. Usually just the normal version but I have a couple shields. I use them for djing. Keep all my files on there and easily backed up.
I have a MacBook Pro too. M1 Max chip 14in
Is it worth the t9 will I get any upgrade in performance? Even just a bit? Couldn’t tell fully from video. Thanks in advance 🙏🏼
Hey I have a video where I compare the T9 portable to the t7 shield in depth. Basically the answer is no... negligible speed difference if you don't have a USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 compatible computer. This is the drive I really recommend for mac users and is my daily driver: ruclips.net/video/16uDgc6XPMY/видео.html
What if you use USB A, does it change anything
So there’s no way fixing this problem right? I just had my 1TB T9 and realize this problem, and wonder if buying a thunderbolt 4 cable can improve it, can u provide me some information about if that makes a difference? Branded cable are not cheap so I like to save some money if that doesn’t work
No, the cable you change will not do anything because the drive itself has a USB dual lane interface so it will always be limited.
@@adamtalkstech okay cristal clear, thank you for saving my money haha
Once you format the drive, won't the security software installation file be deleted ?
Yes but you can also download the software on Samsung's Website: semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/support/tools/
@@adamtalkstech thanks a lot ❤️
@a2vtech Thanx for such great info
Please if you can help me i just bought a t7 shield and its max speed is 460/read and write 452 checked with crystal DM. Is this a problem with my old laptop its Lenovo g510 with 8 gb ram 1 tb hdd and core i5 4th gen 4200u processor some people say its problem with this ssd but some say its old laptop i also tried turning on cache policy from device manager but couldn't resolve the speed issue
My guess is old laptop can’t handle faster speeds.
@@adamtalkstech is correct, you need a pc with a 10gbit or 20gbit USB A or C port to take advantage of the full speed. The naming scheme manufacturers use to differentiate this is confusing, but its usually referred to USB 3.1 Gen 1 for 5gb (which is the same as what you're getting now) and Gen 2 for 10gb, then Gen2x2 for 20gb
Would my new M2 Pro Mac Mini (four Thunderbolt ports) take advantage of the faster dual lane speeds?
No :(
what about the Macbook M3 Pro? can it use it full speed?
No it cannot.
M3 Max here. Only up to 960 write/885 read in APFS.
I've heard about the Orico m.2 40 Gbps Thunderbolt enclosure as a (faster) alternative. Might wanna look into that :)
I bought this T9 and I thought its very faster than my Lucie 5TB. but its not faster than Lucie. but it's very expensive. I don't why. I have new Mac can anyone tell me why?
What Mac are you using? Should absolutely crush the Lacie's speed
two days back i bought this , but unfortunately the transfer speed is just around 50mbps 😢, would you please make a video how to increase the speed for transfer , it helps me a lot bro. By the way mine is windows 11
What port are you using on computer and are you using it with the included cable?
As I type this I’m copying 135GB from a soon to be failed internal iMac fusion drive to a new T9 at about 10 GB per hour. I ran Black Magic’s disk speed test on it before hand and only got 190MB/s read and write speeds. I’m using the USB to USB C cable it came with.
I think that Mac doesn’t have the fast ports. What are the specs on that computer?
@@adamtalkstech, the specs online report USB 3 for my model (late 2012 i7 iMac). My System Info shows USB 3 for the (very old) Apple keyboard I have plugged in and USB 3 for the T9 SSD, the rest are USB 2 (FaceTime cam, Bluetooth host controller). So no USB 3.2 here. I'm wondering if I'd get a better result if I bought a ThunderBolt to USB C cable... elsewhere, I've read that isn't likely to be the case, though. I used APFS to format the T9.
Yeah those 2012s have pretty slow ports... I think you need USB 3.2 to get the faster speeds.@@SteveCarroll2011
While you have a point about the lack of Mac support for 2x2, you did not mention the format of the drive, which matters a lot when benchmarking SSDs on the Mac. You probably used ExFAT, which is NOT the format you need to test on the Mac. You need to reformat as APFS and do the Black Magic test again. That will allow you to see the SSD working at the maximum speed possible on a Mac. Even so, if I were in the market for a drive like this, I would go for TB3/4 as it makes a lot more sense for people who want good performance from an external SSD.
Hey James! Reformatting to APFS only slightly improves the speeds. I’ve done some comparisons on various drives recently and the difference in speed has been almost non existent when I’ve reformatted to APFS. In future videos I’ll make sure I do both tests and document for the video.
@@adamtalkstech Thank you!
@jameswages1 bruh, the only way to get fast speeds on an external hard drive on a Mac is to get a thunderbolt SSD drive.
@@BryanMiraflor You are aware all of the comments you and I are making are beneath a video about the T9, which is NOT a TB SSD, right? I think we all know a TB drive is faster, and yet here we are talking about the T9. We each have reasons for considering the T9, despite the fact it isn't TB.
Great video, but most PC does not have 3.2 USB port?
It's not super common on computers
I am having a bad experience with this hard drive on my macbook m2 pro, it causes my computer to experience lagging from time to time. not as stable as Samsung ssd t7 that I used before, maybe I will use my T7 again, sadly though I changed to apfs format
Sorry to hear that. What are you using it for?
I use it to store about 700mb of audio library
can my new m3 macbook air support the T9?
Not at Max speeds, you will get 950MBps
can i put 8tb in the sandisc?
No 8tb models available.
If you put password on the T9 can you remove it
Yup without formatting
@@adamtalkstechwhat if I forget the password can I reset it?
Samsung magician now works with macOS.. 🙃
Mine broke after 1 week of use! It no longer works 🤬
Noooo what happened?
@@adamtalkstech I discovered the problem but have no way to solve it. Basically I was editing an 8k fcpx video project on a T9 4TB drive and it filled up quick to 4TB. The disk utility recognizes it but there is no way to open the file and save the project from this drive to my Mac computer. I think the only option I have is to delete the drive but I cannot lose that important video project
noooo why did I see this AFTER i bought it 😩
Alexa must be listening
So my TB4 / USB 4 ports on my iMac 2021 withM1 chip can't handle the USB 3.2 gen2 2x2 standard? I thought that USB4 would be compatible and provide the comparable speeds. Why are the manufacturers making this so complicated?
"When USB4 ports start showing up in laptops and elsewhere, it promises maximum speeds of 40 Gigabits per second (Gbps). That’s double the maximum of current USB 3.2 Gen 2x2. As with other versions of USB, USB4 will be backward compatible with USB 2.0 and up, and in some cases, those USB4 ports will even work with Thunderbolt 3 gear."
"This means that USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 devices - capable of operating at up to 20 Gbps like the SSDs we discussed in this review - will operate at Gen 2 speeds (10 Gbps) in those USB4 ports that only fulfill the minimum mandated USB 3.2 data speed. In fact, it is confirmed that even the USB4 40Gbps and Thunderbolt 4 ports (that are compliant with USB4 specifications) of the Tiger Lake UP3-based systems will operate these 20 Gbps SSDs only at 10 Gbps."
the main issue is that USB 4 doesn't get those faster speeds by using dual lane. It's super frustrating. Where did you pull those last 2 quotes from? They are great explainers of it.
Is it waterproof?
No waterproofing or water resistance rating on this
it is crazy that macbook cannot support gen 2x2. now is 2024!
Yeah it’s kind of a confusing topic but I don’t think many new devices will support it
only the window desktop can support it. most of the laptop and phone only support gen 2 only. the speed is enough for most of the people. btw, I appreciate you point out this problem.
windows wins here... damn
Only the ones with the 2x2 ports