Ep.2.17: "Badda-Bing Badda-Behr" with Ira Steven Behr

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
  • Season 2, episode 17 is here. Dominic, Connor, Erica, and Mark have an awesome conversation with rockstar Showrunner, Executive Producer, and Writer for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - Ira Steven Behr.
    We discuss Behr's childhood in the Bronx, his childhood dream to be a horse, pursuing a career as an actor, this thoughts on mentors, running off to deep cleanse in Europe before heading to LA and building his epic writing career. He talks about his stint with Star Trek: TNG, his time on Star Trek: DS9 and his documentary about that time: "What We Left Behind". His unpublished novel and the Spanish Civil War. Wash is looking great. Erica gets some fan questions in, a round of Star Trek Trivia, and we subject Ira to being Stuck on a Deserted Island with Connor Trinneer.” Get your grown up face on because this one pulls no punches.
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Комментарии • 477

  • @thegamingeconomist3831
    @thegamingeconomist3831 Год назад +100

    Holy crap. This is brilliant. I was expecting the usual Holywood love-in about how everyone was so lovely to work with etc etc etc. But Ira is spilling the beans about what really happened behind the scenes - and it's absolutely gripping!

  • @BongoWongoOG
    @BongoWongoOG Год назад +6

    I was incredibly surprised how much I enjoyed this episode. You just don't realise, as a fan, just how much blood, sweat and tears goes into writing, re-writing and sacrificing time with loved ones to produce our beloved shows. Ira has such a varied writing career, and written his own ticket, literally, into theTrek hall of fame.

  • @MKGRFNAGEL
    @MKGRFNAGEL Год назад +53

    I love that you let the conversation naturally go where it wants to go, instead of forcing it down a constricted path.

  • @magicalmystery1964
    @magicalmystery1964 Год назад +95

    And now,DS9 is widely regarded as the finest Star Trek every written! A testament to Ira, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, Ron D. Moore, Rene Eschevarria , and the rest of the writers room! They are the heros of DS9! Ira even reunited with Ronald D. Moore for the first two seasons of Outlander in 2014.

    • @prismpyre7653
      @prismpyre7653 Год назад +6

      It sometimes suffered in some of its' stories from not having any women in the writer's room, but beyond this simple failing it was sublime. I am so, SO grateful that it was generally ignored by the higher-ups at Paramount, even though I know that was hurtful to the cast & crew at the time. But the show would have suffered greatly for their attention... instead they made something that will endure the test of time, and it still found its' audience, little by little, drop by drop... and the drops become an ocean.

    • @magicalmystery1964
      @magicalmystery1964 Год назад +4

      @@miller-joel I thought all the characters had decent development. My one issue with Ira was that he seemed more interested, honestly, in making political points rather than telling a good story. That was really obvious in the What We Left Behind documentary. Fortunately there were other writers, like Ron D. Moore and Robert Hewitt Wolfe to keep him more grounded. The whole dream idea was awful and I am glad Rick Berman nixed it!

    • @magicalmystery1964
      @magicalmystery1964 Год назад +6

      @@miller-joel I did watch Babylon 5. It was ok. The writing on DS9 was superior in my opinion. The characters were awesome and frankly, it was just a more enjoyable show all around.

    • @Bow-to-the-absurd
      @Bow-to-the-absurd Год назад +2

      ​@@miller-joel plenty of character development. From the very first 2 episodes!

    • @Lultschful
      @Lultschful Год назад +4

      @@miller-joel You know what? I'm gonna be that person who says, you know, it all comes down to personal tastes. There is no objective opinion when it comes to art.

  • @colinpartington1562
    @colinpartington1562 Год назад +47

    Ira is right, don’t listen to criticism. I wasn’t online much in the early 90’s and didn’t hear any bad words. All I know, is that me and my mum loved that show. I think we should all take a step back from the hysteria of public opinion and enjoy something as an individual.

    • @joetioeb
      @joetioeb Год назад +11

      @@miller-joel If you pander to the loudest voices among the "fans" then you are a Yes-person... Giving "fans" what they want is like feeding children nothing but candy. Given the examples of the criticism from back in the day which are mentioned in the DS9 doc, I'm glad they ignored it.

    • @krypton7853
      @krypton7853 Год назад

      Agreed

    • @lcd2426
      @lcd2426 Год назад +2

      @@miller-joel Do the show runners of B5 have compromising photos or info on you?

    • @Reggie1408
      @Reggie1408 Год назад +1

      @@joetioeb If you pander to the loudest voices among the "fans" you end up with Picard season 3 unfortunately

    • @MozTS
      @MozTS Год назад

      @@miller-joel you need to get feedback from people you respect, problem with george lucas is he didnt respect anyone enough to take feedback. Even Spielberg would be gentle because he knew george would react badly

  • @marcuscochran806
    @marcuscochran806 7 месяцев назад +4

    Star Trek needs this man now more than EVER!

  • @apexapey
    @apexapey Год назад +102

    This was even better than I hoped it to be. You gotta love Ira Steven Behr and his vision for DS9.

    • @WiglyWorm
      @WiglyWorm Год назад +5

      I saw "What we left behind" in theaters.

    • @spiderman101x
      @spiderman101x Год назад +1

      I told my adult sun about it. He and I binge watched Deep Space9 on bootleg DVD’s I’d night so we’d have something else to watch while we were in Italy one summer; he loved the series. When I told him about the doc showing one night only in the local mall in Colonie Center, he wanted to go. It was really good, but a bit long. I’m still hoping that Paramount will take those fuzzy in take shoes, go back to the film originals and remaster and put special effects in in HD or UHD and finally make them available!

    • @joetioeb
      @joetioeb Год назад

      @@miller-joel Haven't watched the DS9 doc yet?

    • @apexapey
      @apexapey Год назад +1

      And also thanks to @RowanJColeman for enabling my 3 day deep dive into his "StarTrek retrospective" Rabbit Hole that was triggered by this podcast episode.

  • @georgesenda1952
    @georgesenda1952 Год назад +20

    This is way off topic but last year I had Covid & my living room & apartment turned into a total mess where nothing got done, nothing got cleaned & last month I got sick again with bronchitis because of all the rain here in Northern California because the rain spreads pollen around & I am allergic to grass and keep getting sinus infections & having breathing difficulties.
    So this morning I finally said "F*ck it. I need to clean up this disaster area ! " and started putting away laundry, throwing stuff out and hanging up shirts & listening to this episode while having my usual breathing issues allowed me to focus while in the background this fascinating writer whom I had never heard of riveted my attention & I thank God that you people created the Shuttlepod.
    This month I turn 71 & at times even getting out of bed can be hard with my physical issues, like 2 fractured kneecaps, vision issues, breathing difficulties and weight.
    I fell on the escalator on BART our local subway 17 years ago and gained 125 pounds because I was on crutches for a year and the medical plan refused to pay for surgery on my shattered right knee.
    Now I will be finally getting both knees replaced, have lost 60 pounds and finally getting an electric mobility scooter because it hurts like hell to walk, go shopping, etc.
    But your video cast allows me to think about what I have to get done and after listening I finally got everything folded, put away or hung up and I really appreciate what you do & how it enervates me & helps me finish until my back and knees tell me its time to take a break.
    Thank all of your for presenting the guests and unlike the other fans, I LOVED Vic Fontaine because I was a friend of Mr. Frank Sinatra (Sr. Can you say that of the Chairman ? ) & the first time I heard Vic sing I thought it was Mr. Sinatra singing ( I never called him Frank and he called me " the Kid " when I was 16 and living in Old '60's Vegas.). I miss the hell out of him.

    • @nunyabizness6595
      @nunyabizness6595 Год назад +1

      Glad to hear you are getting better. I will be 66 in June so I'm right there with you. I've been losing my teeth due to receding gums and stuff like that effects your health. I also need to get a PSA test cause some weird stuff is going on below my stomach. Originally thought it was just a hernia. Now I think it might be something far worse. 😮😮😮

    • @georgesenda1952
      @georgesenda1952 Год назад

      @@nunyabizness6595 Might be an ulcer or your colon. Have that checked out asap. Thanks for the kind words. I had all my upper teeth pulled out and its caused pain problems for my gums too. Hope you will be fine.

  • @ianlassitter2397
    @ianlassitter2397 Год назад +5

    Ira helped bring to life one of the greatest Star Trek shows ever made - DS-9. Thank you so much for holding to your plan and the way you wanted to do it.

  • @ProfessD
    @ProfessD Год назад +26

    thank you for establishing a solid archive of trek history with this podcast. You're all saints.

    • @ShuttlepodShow
      @ShuttlepodShow  Год назад +9

      You are rad. Thank you for the compliment.

  • @anicetune
    @anicetune 10 месяцев назад +3

    You can tell he's a skilled writer. The way he explains what happened in those early TNG days is gripping stuff. Probably the most entertaining guest so far.

  • @justjen139
    @justjen139 Год назад +20

    So glad you got him on. The writing on DS9 was some of the best on television ever. It was a crime that this show didn't get more accolades then it deserved. Fantastic episode!!

  • @lbricks7631
    @lbricks7631 7 месяцев назад +4

    Ira is just such an interesting person who's pessimistic attitude melds with his genuine passions. He was the best creative head that a film or tv show could ever have.

  • @scottchitwood3022
    @scottchitwood3022 Год назад +37

    It would really be interesting if you could get J G Hertzler on the show. His characters did well.

  • @daveagreg
    @daveagreg Год назад +29

    Hells bells NEVER a dull moment with Ira! Always fresh stories and raw takes from him. Big thanks @ShuttlepodShow! ❤💛💙🤓🖖🏾

  • @germansnowman
    @germansnowman Год назад +9

    Listening to the struggles in the writers’ room and with production in general, it’s a miracle that there aren’t more continuity and canon errors all the time. So glad we can enjoy the fruit of their labor!

  • @Lonestar70blue
    @Lonestar70blue Год назад +21

    “Yesterday’s Enterprise” in my opinion , was the best episode of TNG. It was brilliant. You couldn’t have spent Thanksgiving better.

  • @DavidCDrake
    @DavidCDrake Год назад +18

    Behr bares all. Excellent conversation with one of my favorite (and most stylish) writers!

  • @shaundis2117
    @shaundis2117 Год назад +13

    Love the show and Ira. Being able to hear his take on the inside scoop of TNG and DS9 is a treat . Dom changing the subject from some real interesting backstory on "Sarek" to" sooooo you grew up in the `50`s ?" Was really jarring and strange as we were getting into some really fascinating information on how legends that are now gone worked. Ira has some personal experiences with actors that are now lost to time and i cherish the opportunity to hear first person experiences with them. If those who know don't tell these things no-one will ever know them.

    • @joemiglionico6527
      @joemiglionico6527 Год назад +4

      Dom makes this whole podcast borderline unlistenable. He seems incapable of letting anyone finish a thought before interrupting, talking over and derailing whatever the guest was going to say. It's frustrating as hell. Just shut up and let the guy talk, jesus.

  • @petekwando
    @petekwando Год назад +101

    It's a very lucky cast and crew to have a showrunner as fearless and cool as Ira Steven Behr.

  • @motionpablo
    @motionpablo Год назад +11

    Ira is a genius, sharp, honest, and full of wonderful and inspiring stories. This interview was awesome, Dominc, Connor, Erica and Mark made an outstanding job as always

  • @emstorm1725
    @emstorm1725 Год назад +6

    I've always felt like Ira is the most interesting Producer from any of the trek shows. Love what he brought to DS9 and how he wrote to bring the best out of the characters and the actors. His interviews on the 7th Rule are fantastic. You can tell he cares about the actors and the people he worked with. Wish he had gone on to help with Enterprise and Voyager. They could have used him. A true Trek Icon!

  • @spudfester
    @spudfester Год назад +15

    Love Ira so much because of his work with DS9, hands down my fav series. 18mins in and hanging on every word and praying for him to announce a full HD remaster.

  • @katherinekoza6536
    @katherinekoza6536 Год назад +14

    This is absolutely Brilliant listening to Ira Behr and how he be came to being a script writer ..From one huge DS9 fan .

  • @ShainThomas
    @ShainThomas Год назад +19

    Ira Steven Behr is brilliant. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have him showrunner because he understands what must be done.

  • @anthonytriana4209
    @anthonytriana4209 Год назад +4

    I remember my girlfriend being disrespected in a male dominated industry. I quoted Garak’s lines from DS9 to Ezri Dax about believing in one self and owning who you are. This incredible, strong, and honorable woman I call my wife 19 years later is in a leadership position in the same male dominated industry. She definitely owns who she is now. Boy, do I love love her! The writers and actors of DS9 taught me how to love, lust, worship, and respect strong women. DS9 also has taught me to empower women. Thank you to the writers, cast, and crew of DS9 for that.

  • @fernandogarajalde4066
    @fernandogarajalde4066 Год назад +24

    1:40:16 Yes, we want James Darren (aka Dick Fontaine) ASAP on the Shuttlepod Show so he can get back on Paramount for a DS9 spinoff. Imagine the stories he can tell about both his singing and acting career, maybe share some “Time Tunnel” history with the young ones. 😎

  • @Thedominickeating
    @Thedominickeating Год назад +29

    🎉great show guys!!
    Thanks for tuning in!!
    ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

    • @daveagreg
      @daveagreg Год назад +2

      So much fun Dom! Those stories....... 😀

    • @spiderman101x
      @spiderman101x Год назад +1

      Man, what prompted you guys to create this free form show? I’m digging it more and more with each episode.

  • @sunspot478
    @sunspot478 Год назад +22

    I could watch ISB talk for HOURS. Respect.

  • @noneed4me2n7
    @noneed4me2n7 Год назад +3

    Just found this podcast but wish to hell my dad was still around he would’ve loved to hear all the inside stories. He took me to a couple of conventions and I’ll always cherish those memories. Thanks for sharing.

    • @ShuttlepodShow
      @ShuttlepodShow  Год назад

      Thank YOU for sharing. What’s your Dad’s name?

    • @noneed4me2n7
      @noneed4me2n7 Год назад

      @@ShuttlepodShow Robert, I lost him during Covid caring for him while he was waiting on throat surgery. He was a complicated person but was a good father and helped me develop my love of music, reading and all things sci-fi. I miss him dearly. Thanks for asking.

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka Год назад +9

    There's so much to appreciate about this interview with the brilliant Ira Steven Behr, but for now I'm just going to comment on one of his Desert Island answers: Bringing a dog as a luxury item is the best response yet!
    _“Dogs are our link to paradise. They don’t know evil or jealousy or discontent. To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden, where doing nothing was not boring - it was peace.”_ - Milan Kundera

    • @annika_panicka
      @annika_panicka Год назад

      @@miller-joel Lol! I figured if he couldn't bring a phone (even one with no service just for solo gaming), he wouldn't be allowed to bring a holodeck/holosuite.

  • @lostinaustralia-dave7802
    @lostinaustralia-dave7802 Год назад +11

    Andrew Robinson was one of my Best Character favorites during DSv9 ( he was a man of different identities) but I am impressed that you both created ShuttlePod to keep it all alive.

  • @NyimaWongchuk
    @NyimaWongchuk Год назад +4

    Great episode. I'd love for you to have him on again and talk more about DS9 and the evolution of the characters and the way the writers fed off of the performances and developed everyone. IT's one of the best television series of all time. Just absolutely brilliant, and this man was at the center of it! I want to hear more!

  • @sigil5772
    @sigil5772 Год назад +10

    BEST EPISODE so far. 2hrs just flew by. Please let your guests all be as candid and carefree as ISB. Joyous. Thank you!

  • @werewolfskinvhs
    @werewolfskinvhs Год назад +18

    Connor, Dom, Erica and Mark - congrats on this weeks awesome episode! What an outstanding get for the Pod! Ira was a really cool guest, very forthright and candid, not afraid to speak his mind. Learning about how he got his start in the world of Trek was really interesting, I can only imagine how nerve wracking his first day on TNG was, being thrown into an unfamiliar pool and being told to start swimming. I quite enjoyed his perspective on fandom as a whole and how he refused cater to them, I'm happy he held firm and wouldn't let them effect the outcome of DS9. Glad he wasn't afraid to admit that he'd made some mistakes when he was on the show, I feel like people who write for big franchises like Trek are less likely to admit when they had shortcomings so I appreciate his honesty in that regard. All in all, another fun episode! I can't wait to see what next week has in store. Happy Shuttlepod Sunday, one and all! ☺🖖💚🍃

  • @brent-z3l
    @brent-z3l Год назад +6

    Ira Steven Behr was ahead of his time. Who did "To be Continued" in the 90s ? Ill tell you who, Ira Steven Fudging Behr and he is a legend for going against the grain. This generated one of the best tv series ever to air

  • @GB00K44
    @GB00K44 Год назад +8

    Ira made DS9 truly great. Great episode as always and looking forward to more! 🖖

  • @startrekmike
    @startrekmike Год назад +8

    This (fantastic) episode really highlights the true power of this podcast's format. Over the years, a lot of mythology has been built up about what happens behind the scenes and it is really nice to see the hosts and guests talk more bluntly and more honestly about the realities both behind and in front of the camera. We as fans need this kind of content. It gives us perspective and lets us view it with a bit more honesty. The fanbase has spent years building up certain convenient, emotionally cathartic narratives and it is good to see those narratives put under the microscope.

  • @gary1632
    @gary1632 Год назад +4

    Awesome interview never a dull moment. Ds9 is the best star trek tv show

    • @ShuttlepodShow
      @ShuttlepodShow  Год назад +1

      Dude’s rad!

    • @wyldelf2685
      @wyldelf2685 Год назад

      ​@@ShuttlepodShow I love his song " Breaking the Law " 🎸🎸🎸😋👍

  • @ShainThomas
    @ShainThomas Год назад +5

    I was onboard with DS9 from the beginning because I could see the series had something special.

  • @jesse33cdn
    @jesse33cdn Год назад +109

    .......DS9 FOREVER!.......

  • @ariadnavigo
    @ariadnavigo Год назад +10

    This was such a lovely episode! I can see how ISB's knowledge on the Spanish Civil War (I live in Spain!) and his insights on social issues have obviously influenced DS9! Great, great, great pod 😍

  • @kazzar831
    @kazzar831 Год назад +5

    If you ever get Sidig on, ask him about directing Prophet and Lace. He tells a story about directing it like a serious episode rather than a comedy, because he didn't think it was a comedy.

  • @TheTuubster
    @TheTuubster Год назад +2

    Isn't it mind blowing how many stories are there to tell about the stories of "Star Trek" and its story tellers? Is there any pop culture franchise in which you have so much to talk about? Trek is truly a gift that keeps on giving.

  • @ericstewart5852
    @ericstewart5852 Год назад +6

    Love Steven beher creator of the greatest star trek series ever made don't sweat it guys enterprise is a close second but DS9 is hands down the best written star trek of all time it was definitely ahead of it's time I rewatch it all the time

  • @jeremiah5342
    @jeremiah5342 Год назад +10

    This is one of the best interviews I've seen with Ira Behr.

  • @conorbrosnahan5464
    @conorbrosnahan5464 Год назад +18

    Please get Ronald D. Moore on.

  • @jaiizzie7703
    @jaiizzie7703 Год назад +9

    OMG!!, I love Ira SB , I wanted this interview the minute you guys began, yippee 🎉👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🖖🏿

  • @danibuho
    @danibuho 6 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, I definitely wasn't expecting to hear you guys talk about the Spanish Civil War with the great Ira Steven Behr introducing the topic. You see, apart from being a big Star Trek nerd and a fan of your show, I happen to be spanish.
    Here is a little story I want to share with you regarding the Civil War... I'm from the Canary Islands, a small archipielago next to the west coast of Africa that politically is part of Spain. Once the conflict began, in many areas where Franco's rebellious side had prevailed (as was the case in the Canary Islands) all foreigners were imprisoned. My grandfather was born in Cuba almost by chance because his parents had emigrated there, so he was imprisoned. In prison they put a paper in front of him declaring that he was going to fight voluntarily for Franco's side and ordered him to sign it. My grandfather refused, and after beating him they signed it with an X and indicated that he was illiterate, which caused my grandfather to have to fight in a civil war for a cause in which he did not believe.
    Fortunately, even though the bad guys won, my grandfather survived the war and lived many years.
    I'd love to have the chance to meet you in person! Greetings from the Canary Islands 🖖🏻🇮🇨

    • @ShuttlepodShow
      @ShuttlepodShow  6 месяцев назад +1

      Shout out to Canary Islands!! Woot woot!

  • @KarrGalaxyStudios
    @KarrGalaxyStudios Год назад +6

    Loved this.. Ira.. we need a new trek with you at the helm.. bring back trek with DS9's potency and grit... It is also awesome to hear behind the scenes about just how difficult those shows were to make back in the day. Hopefully we never put actors and crew through those times again.. Also I hope all writers get paid what they should be paid not just the writers guild members... people got to eat and pay bills.. much respect..

  • @cjc363636
    @cjc363636 11 месяцев назад +3

    "Social media is a drug." I love this man!

  • @AlexZenigata
    @AlexZenigata Год назад +10

    I love you all. AND THE TITLES, WHO'S THE GENIUS BEHIND THESE?!

  • @TL-cc8kc
    @TL-cc8kc Год назад +6

    Has been a while since I listened to the last Shuttlepod and I am glad Dom listened to the feedback. He does not interrupt the guests any more. Now I can enjoy the show. Great questions by the interviewers, great stories told by Mr. Behr.

  • @donjackjohn
    @donjackjohn Год назад +14

    Incredible summary after hearing from Armin, Nana, Cirroc, Nikki, Andrew and Michael talk about the atmosphere on DS9, and not really completely explaining it, to have Ira encapsulate it perfectly by talking about the shows handling of Avery Brooks. Dom and Connor have settled into listening and letting it flow. Great job everyone!

  • @Bester76
    @Bester76 Год назад +3

    OMG this was brilliant! Fantastic episode, thank you so much!
    Totally agree with Ira, Casey Biggs was SO good. His character journey was exactly what Gul Dukat's looked like being before they turned him back into a pantomime villain.

  • @allenmurotake-fujikura9974
    @allenmurotake-fujikura9974 Год назад +11

    I always love watching! DS9 being my favorite shows of all time not getting hit on Bajoan Religion is actually pretty fascinating and surprising to me.

  • @livenbelieve4819
    @livenbelieve4819 Год назад +5

    Profit and Lace was endearing! I adored it. So, if that is the regrettable one, nothing to regret at all! 🧡🦁🧡Quark n Odo on the mountain episode, ending lines to each other “I still hate you” … perfect …then just great… Little Green Men was sweet. Super interview as Always!
    Bestest Fun 🧡🦁🧡

  • @DonaldSubert
    @DonaldSubert Год назад +3

    I rewatched the 3-part season 2 intro again, after watching this interview ("The Homecoming," "The Circle," "The Siege"). Those were fantastic episodes. Great character moments; great action. It felt consequential, even though it was about "Bajoran Politics," lol. Some of the best episodes to come out of the early seasons. Great job, Ira, and everyone involved.

  • @terryloh8583
    @terryloh8583 Год назад +7

    WONDERFUL! Love hearing things from the writer's perspective. Another great guest. Can't wait for Manny Coto to be on the show.
    I have to agree with Ira 100% Social media has been a real bummer where it comes to shows. I've said this many times, that if TNG was premiered today, it never would have made it past the first season. To be fair, fan ire is fairly earned when the source material to a beloved property has been thrown out or changed so much that only the names remain. That being said, as the tremendous success of the MCU has shown (or the James Bond films for that matter), you can change a LOT about a character in a way that is fun, surprising, yet remains true to the character. I think if more studios shared Ira's belief that a writer needs to give the audience what it needs, rather than what it wants, films and shows would be better for it.

  • @klongyawseven9118
    @klongyawseven9118 Год назад +13

    I was not a fan of DS9 on first viewing,but after revisiting it in syndication I realized what a gem it actually was...nothing is without flaws,and there were a few things that I wish they had not done in the storyline,but all things considered for me I would place it in my top 3 sci-fi series of all time along with Babylon 5 and Stargate SG-1....

    • @prismpyre7653
      @prismpyre7653 Год назад +1

      you had to be REALLY committed to follow it or of course you wouldn't enjoy it-- in my area it was only syndicated at like 2pm and 11pm and sometimes they would play stuff in the wrong order or cut the end of the last season off... I had to pirate on Napster with dial-up internet to follow the story-- each episode took me well over a week to get.

    • @RA10H56
      @RA10H56 Год назад +1

      ​@PrismPyre I was lucky that it was syndicated at 630 on Sundays after it moved from the weeknights...I think it was Wednesday at 9. I had to record them on the old VHS timer! Mom still has them in her basement, she still holds on to them just in case the internet "explodes" and we can't stream anymore and we go back to "tapes and regular TVs"

    • @RA10H56
      @RA10H56 Год назад +1

      And he'll yeah to B5! Now that show struggled with time slots! The third season came out when I was a freshman in college and I made my buddy I played football with join me and watch it at the comic shop in there big TV!!! Needless to say it was epic and he liked it and we watched it often together. I recorded lots of the episodes of season 1 and 2 on VHS and we watched the back episodes episodes

    • @fotomaton7852
      @fotomaton7852 Год назад +1

      @@prismpyre7653 In my country, DS9 never even aired! Luckily one video rental store imported VHS copies from the UK. There were two episodes per tape. I had to literally pay a small fortune to watch the first couple seasons. Eventually I managed to get Sky on satellite (which was in itself almost mission impossible) which aired DS9 and by season 7 I was finally in college in the States so could watch in real-time. We were only two DS9 geeks in the entire dorm and would meet up religiously every week to catch the show. Yeah I'm a pretty hardcore DS9 fan, when there is a will there is a way !

  • @daniel385
    @daniel385 Год назад +4

    Ira's got so much talent it's just incredible. I hope to see many more interviews with Trek producers and writers. They've all got so many great stories to tell.

  • @JaysonBumbalough
    @JaysonBumbalough Год назад +4

    Great episode. I love how the shows aren’t just about Trek but the business in general and how each person found their way to Trek.

  • @Allen2saint
    @Allen2saint Год назад +5

    Holy! The Master Himself telling tales!!! Thank you!

  • @louisea966
    @louisea966 Год назад +12

    fabulous interview. ISB is such a fabulous guest

  • @vernicesyers5021
    @vernicesyers5021 Год назад +4

    Another great show. Another fascinating guest.
    Yes, JAMES DARREN.

  • @kerirek
    @kerirek Год назад +16

    actually loving the spanish civil war discussion

    • @richardparker989
      @richardparker989 Год назад +1

      When he got choked up over it. Really means he would have done that thing justice.

  • @MajrPayneNurAss2714
    @MajrPayneNurAss2714 Год назад +10

    I surely would have thought that after Andrew Robinson graced us with his presence,that Mark Alaimo would have followed.

  • @imzadi66642
    @imzadi66642 Год назад +9

    Great episode! Very different than all the others. New perspective. Not an easy industry. Thank you!

  • @Vulcanerd
    @Vulcanerd Год назад +9

    Trip may be a Lt Cmdr and Malcolm may be a lieutenant... but, Mark is our Nerd Lord! All Hail His Majesty Mark, my liege!

  • @mafnoor
    @mafnoor Год назад +8

    Awesome guest and awesome discussion -- thanks @Shuttlepod Show !

  • @stevencoardvenice
    @stevencoardvenice 11 месяцев назад +2

    Our job is to "give the fans what we think they need, not what they want," is a brilliant line by Behr. As a fan, I can respect that. I guess we (reasonable) fans just want to know that the writers and creators appreciate and like the genre, and aren't here just to deconstruct and destroy. Trek is one of the few intelligent and moving things on TV. Like Shakespeare set in the future. and we don't want to lose that. I have found several episodes of Stange New Worlds to be hilarious, thought provoking, intelligent, and moving. Particularly the episode where Pike realizes the importance of Spock. Great acting by both Peck and Mount in that scene. So the spirit of Trek seems alive and well

  • @tomroberts2135
    @tomroberts2135 Год назад +2

    Thank you Steven!!! These stories shed SO much light on certain episodes all the way back to TNG. And DS9 is still my absolute favorite ST for its consistent quality and challenges to we the viewers.

  • @davidminnick356
    @davidminnick356 Год назад +8

    Another wonderful episode ....keep them coming.....Ira is so cool

  • @BeatrixKiddo198
    @BeatrixKiddo198 Год назад +3

    I've just recently discovered the channel and I'm enjoying going back to older interviews. I love all Trek and can't wait to see who else will show up here...LLAP 🖖

  • @tonyshane1
    @tonyshane1 3 месяца назад +1

    Some tough love from this episode. Very well done! Giving us the Trek we need is as important as the Trek we want.

  • @RA10H56
    @RA10H56 Год назад +6

    Hey all what a great interview! You guys have a real skill at this, and you get better with every new show. And PS I got Paramount + so I could watch Picard season 2 and 3. But you know what? I found myself watching Enterprise all over again. Seeing the cast on screen for the first time in at least 5 years, besides the couple of episodes I have on DVD and watching clips on RUclips, its like going to a family reunion, seeing old friends, and wishing I could interact with them. GOD bless you all on the shuttlepod show.

  • @chrisgavin3330
    @chrisgavin3330 Год назад +5

    Great show folks👌✅🤘 looking forward to next week!!

  • @charlessmyth
    @charlessmyth 2 месяца назад +1

    Much better than expected. Hard to imagine DS9 without Quark :-)

  • @KorbinX
    @KorbinX Год назад +2

    Thank you ISB and the whole crew of Shuttlepod Show! Great to see his insights on making trek.
    Great interview and I can't wait for the next one ^-^
    Cheers!

  • @leptonsoup337
    @leptonsoup337 Год назад +7

    Another great show everyone! Really scored a great catch with Ira!

  • @deepstonecostco
    @deepstonecostco Год назад +8

    Always cool to see Mr. Behr!

  • @carloc88
    @carloc88 Год назад +3

    A MUST watch for any DS9 fan, very intriguing stuff!

  • @mikeisdepressed
    @mikeisdepressed Год назад +1

    Ira helped create one of the truly great Trek series with DS9. So happy to be able to revisit his work whenever I want for inspiration. Thanks for the interview

  • @ashwb1
    @ashwb1 Год назад +10

    Best interview with Rob Halford ever..😂

    • @milivojbunjevac1894
      @milivojbunjevac1894 Год назад +3

      Yeah, I saw the thumbnail and I thought to myself: Rob Halford on Star Trek? But it would be really, really cool, though.

    • @23skidoo78
      @23skidoo78 Год назад +1

      @@milivojbunjevac1894 Same here. And as someone who has seen Priest live over a dozen times, Ira's interview was as good as anything Halford (a true god of music/metal) has done.

  • @ktravers
    @ktravers Год назад +4

    Fantastic show. Great guest with real gems of insights and stories.

  • @fotomaton7852
    @fotomaton7852 Год назад +1

    I just finished rewatching DS9 (hadn't since it originally aired). I won't lie, Picard season 3 really gave me the urge to revisit with all the ties to the Dominion war. The show was always and will remain by far my favourite and I've watched every single episode of every single Trek show ! And while I love what Terry Matalas did for Picard Season 3, you gotta commend Ira for not doing any type of fan service on DS9 and creating totally original storylines that stood on their own. I guess Discovery kinda tried that in season 1 but totally dropped the ball to the point of cancellation. And what an interview here, so much respect for Behr, his vision, his drive, his integrity, his passion. He not only changed Trek, he changed Television. GOAT

    • @brandon.brooks4872
      @brandon.brooks4872 Год назад

      "Trials and Tribble-ations" was DEFINITELY some fan service...but it was also an anniversary episode, and (like most of the rest) a DANG great episode!

    • @fotomaton7852
      @fotomaton7852 Год назад +1

      @@brandon.brooks4872 Yeah that was a one off tribute to TOS for the 30th anniversary. I was obviously speaking of the overall characters and narrative, nothing much was recycled (aside from Worf entering S4 but that was a Rick Berman decision, and even then DS9 gave him more depth than he ever had on TNG). These days, fan servicing is everywhere. And while it can be well executed (Strange New Worlds) its a slippery slope and can often lead to lazy writing, recycled ideas. DS9 broke new ground and remains the only Trek show centered on a station not space travel, hence the looking in not looking out reference.

  • @DS-gc7vg
    @DS-gc7vg Год назад +5

    Another great episode; I thought I may be the last person left to use the word "jive" in regular conversation. lol

  • @scottchitwood3022
    @scottchitwood3022 Год назад +6

    Excellent show! One of your best guest !

  • @dalypso2903
    @dalypso2903 Год назад +7

    Star trek forever 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @federationmedia9117
    @federationmedia9117 Год назад +3

    💭4 letter words! Exclamation!
    Like Tarantino wanted to be. A sailing tack to starboard, from the franchise's mainsail position port, and legacy, for the better.
    Sisko's (Avery Brooks')outcome still sits with me. His jazz with Shatner lingers in my mind🎹.
    For the prophets: Ro Laren Lives!
    Thank you, Mr Behr.

  • @ww321
    @ww321 Год назад +1

    Ok finally all caught up with all the podcasts. Thank you everyone for doing these. It's really enjoyable getting to know the real actors and participants. 😊

  • @RobertJHamilton
    @RobertJHamilton Год назад +1

    I've pretty much seen all the Star Treks, and Deep Space Nine is by far the most rewatchable of them all. Ira is the best!

  • @fehlbrandschwele
    @fehlbrandschwele Год назад +1

    OMG! Ira is the greatest! I love The things we left behind, I wish he would be in charge of some new trek or some new instance of DS9 like the did on the documentary... I have so much respect for him, DS9 is and will always be THE BEST TREK!!!

  • @Audiomarkj
    @Audiomarkj Год назад +9

    This man put Bill Mumy into the Trek Universe. Lol !!! I would love to meet him and have a non-trek conversation. Wonder why it is that, so far, everyone I meet named Ira is cooler than the ice caps of Pluto !! Ahahahaha !!

  • @alrice8302
    @alrice8302 7 месяцев назад +1

    Another great show, love to watch you all. 🎉

  • @micahmcelroy572
    @micahmcelroy572 Год назад +2

    Great interview with such an interesting guy! I would've loved to have known more about what Ira thinks about more contemporary Star Trek, especially with references to DS9 in Picard.

  • @emanuelelombardi9824
    @emanuelelombardi9824 Год назад +1

    Hello Mr Behr. DS9 is my favorite star trek series. In large part for your operating at the helm of the series. I have watched the entire series many time over the years and I like to read Tolkein regularly. It didn't hurt that you had an incredible group of artists working on the show. I place ds9 among the greats of science fiction. It didn't hurt that I had an enormous crush on Nana Visitor, but the series is wonderful.

  • @beesod6412
    @beesod6412 Год назад +1

    This was phenomenal! Thank you so much to the entire TSS crew!

  • @ForgottenArmy1944
    @ForgottenArmy1944 Год назад +4

    Referring to TNG as the 'Connecticut of Star Trek' is amazingly apt. Love TNG! But it's true 😂

  • @captain4053
    @captain4053 Год назад +1

    Love DS9 watching it as a child while it aired with my family was awesome. one of the best parts of the 90's for me.