I apologize if I am wrong, but these are nothing like ck3 or just ck in general Most of the time, some players, including me, like roleplay as your own person (character) with many "traits" to be passed into your heir or become an assassin or something. especially right now, where you can be landless from the start or when you lost your own land. The mods will just go crazy from that update.
None of these are even that related to ck3, I got click baited. Two are 4x games and the other 2 are basically city management/builder. Ck3 beats all of them for me.
@@skruffy7790 agreed, none of these compare to CK3 since there isn't any dynasty management, birth/death mechanics and we don't actually embody a character.
These games may "try something new" from time to time but couldn't leave the comfort zone of a basic 4x. If something claims "better than CK3" then it ought to resemble to crusader kings to be even be comparable.
@@angelfernandez9606 What game are you playing? My CK3 takes a minute to start up and then there zero loading times for anything for hours and hour until I turn it off and restart it. Sounds like you're on a crappy comp trying to throw shade at the devs
@@kristiannicholson5893 Crappy pc? The devs don't think so, looking at the minimum requirements established by said devs, i have better cpu, more ram, better graphics card than the minimum to play the game, and it's a common bug that many people have... yeah, buying a rtx 4080 and a ryzen 9 would solve it, but that doesn't mean it's a perfect game with pristine load times
@@Wvavy exactly and the sad thing is that CK3 feels boring in many ways compared to its predecessor although it is much better in graphics and has some fantastic additions in the culture and religion mixing and forming aspects, we are regressing and not evolving in strategy and gaming in general XD
@@kacperszafranski2983 its unfortunately not only them in the strategy genre, however there is hope as we have more and more ambitious indies coming up and punching well above their class, which in turn hopefully makes the bigger studios get off their lazy asses and start innovating again.
a Roman game made by Ubisoft? oh boy can't wait to play as an obscure black roman person who is also somehow the son of Julius Ceasar and is also pansexual and genderfluid
I never considered Civilization series as grand strategy. It's a 4x turn based game. While grand strategy is something else entirely..Paradox is in this for a long time and naturally i feel they are the top dog here. Imperator, HoI 4, EU 3,4 , Stellaris etc. but even among those CK2, CK3 are different. Since Crusader Kings has role play elements. There is nothing quite like it.
Civ 5 is popular till today because of overhaul mods like vox populi. While civ 6 doesn't have that kind of overhaul mod because of the lack of access to the source code.
Good games and looking forward to them but I wouldn't really call them generation defining. Manor Lords is generation defining as it merges two big aspects (city building and military) into one game. At least for me it does not feel like these games are redefining or creating new genres.
I kind of wish someone would make a game combining Conan Exiles type base building and survival with Bannerlord command and combat, where you could rally together a band of survivors to... well, survive, instead of being seemingly the last survivor of whatever apocalypse created the survival setting, or a disembodied voice on high giving commands to people.
@@kristiannicholson5893 Fair enough, though mods aside you can only have one or two backing you up as you explore the Exiled Lands, and they can't really help with the resource gathering aspect of the game. It would be handy to be able to say "Clear cut and mine everything within 50 feet of the base." or such.
"Civ 6 can't achieve that height" I mean if we're talking about player number, it's the most popular Civ game. Even tho the OG Civ fans don't like it as much
Damn when bro said the generation of strategy games is here, he really meant it. I was expecting a video about one game and we got a whole ass generation!
I was addicted to civ 3 and 4. I own 5 and 6 but they never really caught on with me. I hope they can capture the essence of their original formulae with this next game, if they do I will buy but I am going to wait for at least a year and if most of the different nations cost a bunch of extra money it will be a hard pass for me.
Anno is just a city building with some strategy aspects, still the same map size as the old game pretty much. Civilization is just another breath of the franchise and Frostpunk 2 is pretty much what the name says, Frostpunk 2 the follow up. No new Grand Strategy games no new genres.
This isn't a Civilization game, it looks more like Sim City - Skylines with some roaming units, ah well I guess the programmers that created the Gem Civ V have all retired and replaced with kids that weren't even alive when the first Civ Game came out, wont be getting my money.
i less favor with city lbuild game that too stiff (base only on diagonal and horizontal line, square line and cant be build diaognally) for me m,anor lord is the example of a city building with dynamic and freebase building. u cant shape ur town like anything u want.
Nope, CK3 is real time grand strategy and these games are more like city-building strategy games and turn based strategy games, you can’t compare these games each others, and not bigger than CK3
Anno is great game, however I cant seem to enjoy it due to beeing overwhelmed. Too many islands to manage, If there was only one it would be awesome. Civilization is just boring to me, CIV IV was great and its a good start to strategy genre but there are much better in-depth games. Frostpunk is awesome game for one and done playthrough if you looking for a hard and challenging survival game with a great aesthetic, not much replayability tho. But man, nothing even closely touches the games such as crusader kings or stellaris, the RP aspect and replayability with all the mods is unparallel. But hey, everyone has different taste.
Well they are. They have bigger player numbers and while both are good games most players play a lot more hours on a civ game. Agreed not really Grand Strategy. CK3 though is very much a simulation and nowhere near as immersive. (IMHO) 😊😊
Do you understand what a “grand strategy” game is? Anno is a city management/rts. In no way is it a grand strategy game, not comparable in any way with CK3 or civilisation. Feels like you’re just adding random shit
I've never heard of any of these games being called grand strategy. These are city builders and 4x.
I apologize if I am wrong, but these are nothing like ck3 or just ck in general
Most of the time, some players, including me, like roleplay as your own person (character) with many "traits" to be passed into your heir or become an assassin or something. especially right now, where you can be landless from the start or when you lost your own land. The mods will just go crazy from that update.
None of these are even that related to ck3, I got click baited. Two are 4x games and the other 2 are basically city management/builder. Ck3 beats all of them for me.
@@skruffy7790 Thanks for saving my time
@@skruffy7790 agreed, none of these compare to CK3 since there isn't any dynasty management, birth/death mechanics and we don't actually embody a character.
try Old World - that game is like CK3 but more Civ focused it's great
Love strategy games, but I've never been able to get into Civ games
Me neither, and unfortunately I don’t find myself excited for any of these titles. To each their own, though!
@@cocofashosho what's a good game that you're into?
Civ stopped being good after civ 4
@@simonsnowlock5937 so CIV 4 is the game you play? I don't think I've tried that one.
Civ is like EUIV, but for babies.
Timestamps:
0:57 Anno 117
3:12 Civilization VII
5:56 Ara History Untold
7:28 Frostpunk 2
Now with Landless adventurers, CK3 will be unparalled for the next 10 years. Mark my words
These games may "try something new" from time to time but couldn't leave the comfort zone of a basic 4x. If something claims "better than CK3" then it ought to resemble to crusader kings to be even be comparable.
IDK but I know its my favorite roleplaying / strategy game
Unparalled loading times x.x
@@angelfernandez9606 What game are you playing? My CK3 takes a minute to start up and then there zero loading times for anything for hours and hour until I turn it off and restart it. Sounds like you're on a crappy comp trying to throw shade at the devs
@@kristiannicholson5893 Crappy pc? The devs don't think so, looking at the minimum requirements established by said devs, i have better cpu, more ram, better graphics card than the minimum to play the game, and it's a common bug that many people have... yeah, buying a rtx 4080 and a ryzen 9 would solve it, but that doesn't mean it's a perfect game with pristine load times
these are nothing like ck3
Right lmao what the fuck was this guy thinking. CK3 💩 on all of these games quite literally 😂
@@Wvavy exactly and the sad thing is that CK3 feels boring in many ways compared to its predecessor although it is much better in graphics and has some fantastic additions in the culture and religion mixing and forming aspects, we are regressing and not evolving in strategy and gaming in general XD
CK4. Maybe. Hopefully
@@ashamahee I disagree about regressing. Paradox does that certainly, but Paradox isn't the entire industry.
@@kacperszafranski2983 its unfortunately not only them in the strategy genre, however there is hope as we have more and more ambitious indies coming up and punching well above their class, which in turn hopefully makes the bigger studios get off their lazy asses and start innovating again.
Not a single game you mentioned is even a GSG...
a Roman game made by Ubisoft? oh boy can't wait to play as an obscure black roman person who is also somehow the son of Julius Ceasar and is also pansexual and genderfluid
yeah, the wokies hate Rome with a passion, but hey lets wait and see.
I never considered Civilization series as grand strategy. It's a 4x turn based game. While grand strategy is something else entirely..Paradox is in this for a long time and naturally i feel they are the top dog here. Imperator, HoI 4, EU 3,4 , Stellaris etc. but even among those CK2, CK3 are different. Since Crusader Kings has role play elements. There is nothing quite like it.
Translation: "i'm not very smart"
@@larrote6467 I disagree.
Civ 5 is popular till today because of overhaul mods like vox populi. While civ 6 doesn't have that kind of overhaul mod because of the lack of access to the source code.
Good games and looking forward to them but I wouldn't really call them generation defining. Manor Lords is generation defining as it merges two big aspects (city building and military) into one game. At least for me it does not feel like these games are redefining or creating new genres.
I kind of wish someone would make a game combining Conan Exiles type base building and survival with Bannerlord command and combat, where you could rally together a band of survivors to... well, survive, instead of being seemingly the last survivor of whatever apocalypse created the survival setting, or a disembodied voice on high giving commands to people.
You can kind of do that IN conan exiles, the world is full of other 'survivors' you can 'rally' against the purges you summon to fight.
@@kristiannicholson5893 Fair enough, though mods aside you can only have one or two backing you up as you explore the Exiled Lands, and they can't really help with the resource gathering aspect of the game. It would be handy to be able to say "Clear cut and mine everything within 50 feet of the base." or such.
I'm excited to see where the new wave of grand strategy games will take us. I’ve been really impressed with how Immortal Gates of Pyre is shaping up.
"Civ 6 can't achieve that height"
I mean if we're talking about player number, it's the most popular Civ game. Even tho the OG Civ fans don't like it as much
Yes go back and check numbers and CIV 6 easily wins.
@@skulbowd4312 by a mile!
I am worried about Civ 7 but hopeful. Anno looks nice as always. Ara looks really interesting; I will definitely be watching that one.
it sounds a little like they dumb civ down.. you know, for the wider audience.
@@bugfeatures How can you dumb Civ down more than it already is? Haha
@@FordHoard i think we all know how low AAA-Studius can think. Maybe it will have mobile game "complexity"
Here's what made me pissed is that you put bigger than ck3 yet where is there any family dynasty element on these games you put on the video
Total war games will always be the GrandStrategy kings,
If you're interested in such games, I might recommend keeping an eye on Ymir
The only game better than CK3 will be,
CK3 +total war,war mechanics and sim.
Nothing else!
Damn when bro said the generation of strategy games is here, he really meant it. I was expecting a video about one game and we got a whole ass generation!
I was addicted to civ 3 and 4. I own 5 and 6 but they never really caught on with me. I hope they can capture the essence of their original formulae with this next game, if they do I will buy but I am going to wait for at least a year and if most of the different nations cost a bunch of extra money it will be a hard pass for me.
Humankind was an amazing RTS that should have become king of the genre tbh.
> Ubisoft
> Next gent strategy games better than CK3
LMAO
Combine Eu4 ck3 and Total War to make a complete Ultimate Grand game
What a waste of Internet. Neither of these are CK3 materials. I learned nothing new.
Anno is just a city building with some strategy aspects, still the same map size as the old game pretty much. Civilization is just another breath of the franchise and Frostpunk 2 is pretty much what the name says, Frostpunk 2 the follow up. No new Grand Strategy games no new genres.
i would love to see an anno game where you can make a greek colony before the roman empire
Since when every style of games became "grand strategy"?
I dont recognize any of those 3 games being a grand strategy game...
Still waiting for the Grand Strategy list
Give me an actual new Alpha Centauri game and we can talk.
This isn't a Civilization game, it looks more like Sim City - Skylines with some roaming units, ah well I guess the programmers that created the Gem Civ V have all retired and replaced with kids that weren't even alive when the first Civ Game came out, wont be getting my money.
CK3 is a RPG more than a grand strategy game tho...?
These boardgames got nothing on Paradox kino
stream line CIV gameplay ? never thought they could damn down civ gameplay even more
Damm these are all civ styled tho
i less favor with city lbuild game that too stiff (base only on diagonal and horizontal line, square line and cant be build diaognally)
for me m,anor lord is the example of a city building with dynamic and freebase building. u cant shape ur town like anything u want.
You forgot EU 5 or project "Caesar" i think😂
Meh. My biggest hope for this genre was Grey Eminence. Superior to all other gsgs in almost every aspect(from the dev diaries).
“Grand strategy” != micromanagement
CK3 IS UNMATCHED
Still waiting for Rise Of Nations 2😢
Give me Anno: The Bronze Age!!
Tis the season of remakes
Let's face it, the only good Civ game was the first Call to Power.
Anno 117 💆🏾♂️
Anno Pax Romana looks like a waste of money, it’s like a mod really
Nope, CK3 is real time grand strategy and these games are more like city-building strategy games and turn based strategy games, you can’t compare these games each others, and not bigger than CK3
But why are you using AI generated image for thumbnail?
If you hate tile based games, there's nothing of value here.
Civ etc.has nothing to do with grand strategy.
❤
Anno is great game, however I cant seem to enjoy it due to beeing overwhelmed. Too many islands to manage, If there was only one it would be awesome. Civilization is just boring to me, CIV IV was great and its a good start to strategy genre but there are much better in-depth games. Frostpunk is awesome game for one and done playthrough if you looking for a hard and challenging survival game with a great aesthetic, not much replayability tho. But man, nothing even closely touches the games such as crusader kings or stellaris, the RP aspect and replayability with all the mods is unparallel. But hey, everyone has different taste.
Dude I don't understand at some points what you saying
None of these games are Grand Strategy.
None of these are grand strategy
Bro, did you just say a CIV game would be better than CK3? Wtf are you smoking? Please tell me. Also, explain how these are "grand strategy" 😂
Well they are. They have bigger player numbers and while both are good games most players play a lot more hours on a civ game. Agreed not really Grand Strategy. CK3 though is very much a simulation and nowhere near as immersive. (IMHO) 😊😊
These are not grand strategy games.
None of these are grand strategy games😂
These games are nothing like CK3. You have no idea what you're talking about.
These are not grand strategy games. 🤦
This guy is always exaggerating. Talking out of his arsse
Resonant fell off hard
unsubbing because this is NOT GRAND Strategy!!!
These are all trash
None of those are a grand strategy...
Do you understand what a “grand strategy” game is? Anno is a city management/rts. In no way is it a grand strategy game, not comparable in any way with CK3 or civilisation. Feels like you’re just adding random shit