I'm amazed you survived into 2020 without an SSD! I have a different model from mid-2010 and only started retiring it in earnest last year as my daily driver. You may want to look at "OpenCore Legacy Patcher" which allows older machines to run a less archaic version of macOS. Mine's running Big Sur. There's a minimum of faffing about, small bit of reading, and some caveats, but less risky than using an OS that hasn't seen an security update in four years.
@@GadgetUK164 it definitely is the mac mini's. A real shame as I rather like the os of apple but pc's still rule for the less mainstream stuff that we like tinkering with.😊
@@GadgetUK164 SSD and RAM are both soldered on in M1 Macs, but the performance is outstanding. You have to predict what you'll need over the life of the hardware, which usually isn't difficult, but it can be painful with Apple pricing. I have an M1 MacBook Pro and an M1 Mac Mini, and I am probably not going back to Windows for day-to-day work stuff. huge spood beest :D when you solder your RAM and SSD close to where they are needed and shorten the tracks (and thus latency) between CPU and storage.
After you replaced the hard drive the MacBook was still looking for it once you rebooted. That's the reason for the delay you experienced. After a while, it gives up and boots from whatever it finds. Also, are you sure that model only supports 8GB? Apple specs are usually conservative when it comes to the amount of RAM you can actually install. Edit: that model may support 16GB. Finally, you may be able to go higher than High Sierra with a custom installer.
@@GadgetUK164 if I understand correctly you have a mid 2010 with a core duo 2, which should support 16GB depending on the version of the bootrom. Maybe give it a try and if it does not work, return the RAM to Jeffy B?
@@GadgetUK164 My mac mini from that era supports 16gb, Apple says only 8gb so I think you're assumption it only supports 8Gb is wrong too. You can also get at least two 'unsupported' osx versions on it too without perf/driver issues too (It was me that wrote 'Lion Patcher' way, way back in the day it's real simple really, all the patchers usually do is edit and remove one kext (the platform support one in the installer to make it run and the one that gets copied to the hdd so it boots properly).
I work in a recycling facility sorting the electronics. I have taken a couple hundred of these apart because we can't recycle them with the lithium batteries installed, while I'm inside it I pull the sims to be sorted in another bin. When you were being so careful pulling the sims I was telling my screen "no it comes out the same way as the top one, push both clips at the same time!" I don't usually talk to my screen when I'm watching videos. Made me giggle at myself.
If they're driven from the inside they're screws, if they're driven from the outside of the head they're bolts. They're machine screws, not self tapping screws, but still screws. I'm amazed someone's still upgrading these, I did a lot of these upgrades 7-10 years ago. Also sometimes had to swap the motherboard to SATA cable because it was very easily damaged when people had lost a foot on their laptop and sand made it in.
Get rid of that SSD if you value your data, they have absolutely atrocious death/return rates, almost as bad as the old Sandforce controller based SSDs. Some numbers, I know a firm that bought over 50 of them (from different batches) and at least 30 died within two years, not sure about the rest because I left shortly after that.
hi i wanted to do the same to my macbook pro 2010 i cleaned it up and changed the thermal paste and i want to upgrade to 8gb/16gb what is better ? i know more ram faster but will 16gb consume more battery?
Lots of people will tell you the Mac I have (mid 2010) will take 16GB - but... Everything I've read suggests the OS does not support and and may not boot (without the odd hack). So I stuck with 8GB. Hard to consume more than 8GB on a Mac this old anyway tbh lol! I just use it for browsing and iMovie etc.
Correction: This Mac will run High Sierra - I installed it tonight!
I'm amazed you survived into 2020 without an SSD! I have a different model from mid-2010 and only started retiring it in earnest last year as my daily driver.
You may want to look at "OpenCore Legacy Patcher" which allows older machines to run a less archaic version of macOS. Mine's running Big Sur. There's a minimum of faffing about, small bit of reading, and some caveats, but less risky than using an OS that hasn't seen an security update in four years.
Imagine trying to do that on a new Mac. It’s one of the things that always holds me back from buying a Mac over a pc. 😤
Indeed! These days I bet the SSD stuff is soldered on the mobo?
@@GadgetUK164 it definitely is the mac mini's.
A real shame as I rather like the os of apple but pc's still rule for the less mainstream stuff that we like tinkering with.😊
Yup both ram and ssd are directly soldered on all M series Macs, I think the Mac Pro and the Mac Studio still use proprietary ssd modules though
@@GadgetUK164 SSD and RAM are both soldered on in M1 Macs, but the performance is outstanding. You have to predict what you'll need over the life of the hardware, which usually isn't difficult, but it can be painful with Apple pricing. I have an M1 MacBook Pro and an M1 Mac Mini, and I am probably not going back to Windows for day-to-day work stuff.
huge spood beest :D when you solder your RAM and SSD close to where they are needed and shorten the tracks (and thus latency) between CPU and storage.
Love the outtakes on the end.
Love a good spood beast. Nice work again, Chris!
LOL!
After you replaced the hard drive the MacBook was still looking for it once you rebooted. That's the reason for the delay you experienced. After a while, it gives up and boots from whatever it finds.
Also, are you sure that model only supports 8GB? Apple specs are usually conservative when it comes to the amount of RAM you can actually install. Edit: that model may support 16GB.
Finally, you may be able to go higher than High Sierra with a custom installer.
Yeah, I am sure it only supports 8GB!
@@GadgetUK164 I'd give it a try because forums say otherwise (can't paste links).
@@bufordmaddogtannen Aren't you thinking of the later one from same year? Because that did support 16GB...
@@GadgetUK164 if I understand correctly you have a mid 2010 with a core duo 2, which should support 16GB depending on the version of the bootrom. Maybe give it a try and if it does not work, return the RAM to Jeffy B?
@@GadgetUK164 My mac mini from that era supports 16gb, Apple says only 8gb so I think you're assumption it only supports 8Gb is wrong too. You can also get at least two 'unsupported' osx versions on it too without perf/driver issues too (It was me that wrote 'Lion Patcher' way, way back in the day it's real simple really, all the patchers usually do is edit and remove one kext (the platform support one in the installer to make it run and the one that gets copied to the hdd so it boots properly).
This was the time when Apple allowed you to upgrade and repair your computer, those days are long gone.
I work in a recycling facility sorting the electronics. I have taken a couple hundred of these apart because we can't recycle them with the lithium batteries installed, while I'm inside it I pull the sims to be sorted in another bin. When you were being so careful pulling the sims I was telling my screen "no it comes out the same way as the top one, push both clips at the same time!" I don't usually talk to my screen when I'm watching videos. Made me giggle at myself.
These macs hold up impressively good after many years. I have a 10 year old Air. Still soo good. But the battery is gone
It's crazy how capable these old machines still are. I'll take my hand-me-down 13" 2011 MacBook Pro running Catalina over a Chromebook any day.
This MAC stuff is all foreign to me (MS/PC fan boy). Incredible a 2010 machine can still be useful/productive though.
Is a spood like a spork where the spoon is the actual food ;)
LOL!!!
Upgrade it to Mac OS 14 Somoza with open core legacy patcher it works really well on these old macs
If they're driven from the inside they're screws, if they're driven from the outside of the head they're bolts. They're machine screws, not self tapping screws, but still screws.
I'm amazed someone's still upgrading these, I did a lot of these upgrades 7-10 years ago. Also sometimes had to swap the motherboard to SATA cable because it was very easily damaged when people had lost a foot on their laptop and sand made it in.
Get rid of that SSD if you value your data, they have absolutely atrocious death/return rates, almost as bad as the old Sandforce controller based SSDs. Some numbers, I know a firm that bought over 50 of them (from different batches) and at least 30 died within two years, not sure about the rest because I left shortly after that.
hi i wanted to do the same to my macbook pro 2010 i cleaned it up and changed the thermal paste and i want to upgrade to 8gb/16gb what is better ?
i know more ram faster but will 16gb consume more battery?
Lots of people will tell you the Mac I have (mid 2010) will take 16GB - but... Everything I've read suggests the OS does not support and and may not boot (without the odd hack). So I stuck with 8GB. Hard to consume more than 8GB on a Mac this old anyway tbh lol! I just use it for browsing and iMovie etc.
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