😂😂😂 First thing i thought too😂 Thank goodness they did over the cabin.. Big Bear needed sanitising BIG TIME. Meanwhile... as we shall see.. Sheila and James will be WORSE than Taylor and James🤢
I loved Thorne and Macy but what annoyed me was that there always seemed to be scenes missing from their storylines. Like when Macy collapsed and we got no follow-up the next episode, and then suddenly she was on a plane doing okay. That would never have happened if Brooke had fainted.
Its hard for me to belive that stephanie and eric would be depending on James when they could send a private eye to Genoa city with a picture of Sheila to investigate 😒
It's interesting how the side characters are often wiser and more insightful than the main players they act as support to. Saul's interpretation of the Thorne/Macy relationship is so sensitive and moving. If demonstrates why characters like Saul and Kevin deserved so much more than what they got during their runs on the show.
Sad scenes with Thorne and Macy!! Knowing Macy realy needs Thorne but sends him away to spare him because she believes she has cancer and doesn’t want to see him suffer because of that. When is she is going to think about her own needs first instead of his needs? Such good acting again with these two❤️. They are ALWAYS believable together! And also loved how Saul talked about Thorne and Macy’s story and how they are soulmates.
Yes, Macy says she is "making perfect sense" but she's really not. I think what's driving Macy to do this is her guilt about her alcoholism - she keeps talking about how much she let Thorne down in the past, and how much pain she caused him. Back then she was ill and it was difficult for Thorne, and now she doesn't want to burden him with her illness again.
Sheila and brooke bat their eyelashes at the men but are ruthless to any woman standing in their way so forgive the old fool he doesn't know any better
❤❤❤ " ... We had it all!" Macy echoes my thoughts about her and Thorne's "one magical night ... the greatest moment of her life." Macy and Thorne were truly connected. They made it! They had it all! For a moment! Macy delivers her lines so bravely, so firmly fluent, so structured. It's really heart wrenching, yet beautiful and fulfilling. Angel/Trinidad. ❤❤❤.
Did Mike call James a "genius" at getting ppl to reveal secrets? 😂😂😂 Which James is he talking about?? Certainly not Warwick... It's been months and he hasn't gotten anything out of Sheila. The writers really are trying to sell us a bill of goods about James, just like they try hard to sell us the star crossed lovers of Brooke /Ridge.
Macy is not thinking straight. I think she's still feeling guilty about her alcoholism and she doesn't want to burden Thorne now that she has another illness.
@@annieo6527 My husband did the same to me when he had his liver transplant and then years later with lung cancer and their was no way I was leaving him and I totally understand why he was trying to protect me and our kids and I thank god he made it and in remission now thank god
I loved Jeff and Bobbie as Thorne and Macy. I always thought the way Saul said to Sally, that they are like Romeo and Juliette. I wish the writers kept Jeff as Thorne, and had them continue their singing career, and had them have a child together, thereby solidifying their love! The show never should have replaced Jeff with Windsor Harmon as Thorne.
I agree. I keep wondering how their storyline would have continued, if Jeff would have stayed as Thorne. I can't see the Thorne & Darla or Thorne & Brooke story happening, if Thorne would have still been portrayed by Jeff.
I wish in exactly the same way that the B&B writers kept Thorne and Macy's storyline alive, faithful and do more poetic justice for all following years. As Thorne, Jeff is an incredible singer, and Bobbie's voice as Macy came from an essence of purity and childlike, so great.... their music together were like an unstoppable romantic force you can listen unlimitedly from a jukebox.
I agree that those storylines involving Darla and Brooke would not have worked with if Jeff stayed on as Thorne. Jeff is my favorite Thorne all day long! @@Nathalie_0305
@@annieo6527 I stopped watching when Jeff and Bobbie had left the show and Thorne was like a completely different person since WH took over. Like you said, the couple Thorne & Macy didn't exist anymore after Jeff left the show.
Stephanie is actually correct about Sheila. Stephanie already knows Sheilas hyper and her unstable side. She already knows how tense sheila can be. Stephanie is right about jays death. Sheila had something to do with it. I wonder if it ever comes to light what Sheila did there. Eric than needs to appologize big time to Stephanie. Eric the forever idiot.
❤❤❤ Angel & CC appreciates you Saul! Its wonderful to see you supporting and advising Sally. What a big little man! Hats off to Saul.🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗. Angel/Trinidad. ❤❤❤.
It's a case of showing versus telling. Thorne and Macy have been _shown_ to be soulmates, and only now do we hear another character commenting on it because he has observed them the way we have and drawn the same conclusions. By contrast, Brooke keeps _telling_ us that she and Ridge are soulmates but what is actually shown on screen doesn't exactly back up her claim.
Well, Ridge and Brooke were never soulmates in the first place, but Cridge were. Besides, Macy and Thorne have much better chemistry and warmth together in my opinion.
Stephanie is once again (as usual) playing the part of the show's Cassandra - being prophetic and speaking the truth to deaf ears. At this point she should just have a bunch of business cards printed with "I told you so" on them.
It's nice to have Stephanie on the thumbnail every once in a while! The ones with Omar or Brooke should be blurred and marked as "Sensitive Content". 😵💫🥴
Here we have Saul actually explicitly spelling out the Thorne/Macy story arc on the structural level, and in doing so, nearly breaking the fourth wall to speak directly to the viewers. He recaps their entire history, compares them to Romeo and Juliet, talks about their failed marriage and how they have suffered and learnt from it, and that they are soulmates meant to be together. And actually, this is a pretty accurate description of their storyline - the "trial by fire" they are about to face will in fact prove that they *have* matured and learnt from past mistakes, and although the worst is still ahead of them, they will endure and earn their happily ever after in the end. (That is, if you count 1995 as the end point of their original story, which I think is reasonable because the next time Thorne and Macy will have a storyline after that, it will be a year later and Thorne will be a different person.) It's worth noting how out of all the Shakespeare parallels in Thorne and Macy's story that I've mentioned before - Romeo/Juliet, Othello/Desdemona, Hamlet/Ophelia - the show chooses to explicitly reference only Romeo and Juliet, even though the similarities between these characters and Thorne and Macy lie mainly on the outside circumstances, not in the inner psychology (which is often much closer to the Othello/Desdemona dynamic)
That was beautiful and the poignant music underscoring the scene tells the viewer that Saul is being a reliable narrator about Thorne and Macy. And Saul's "feeling" about Macy's tumor is also correct! The only bad read he had was Anthony being a good guy. 😬
@@NewYorkNick0607 actually, I think he'll turn out to be wrong about the tumor too. And the show is trying to portray him as a quasi unreliable narrator by cutting between his narration and the scenes of Macy pushing Thorne away. (That is, although he is actually _right,_ the show is making us _believe_ he is wrong about Thorne and Macy being "meant to be together", in order to add importance to the breakup scenes by making us believe they *are* actual breakup scenes.)
@@NewYorkNick0607 he's adorable! ❤ I thought it was funny how the show didn't even try to conceal that Saul was basically playing the part of the Chorus in Romeo and Juliet.
@@annieo6527 The whole Spectra gang has often served as a Chorus for the show (usually with Sally musing on the goings-on at "La Casa Forrester" honey). Having them talk about Thorne and Macy this way signals Macy's status as half-Forrester.
Wait. Is that an _apology_ I hear from Thorne? An admission that _he_ made mistakes? This has got to be the first time that happens in all the years he and Macy have known each other. Wonders will never cease. (See, there is hope for his redemption yet!)
So I have one question & one comment about this episode. 1-why isn’t Sally at the hospital being with her daughter right before her biopsy? Not sure why she’s at work when her daughter is freaked. Did Macy ask her not to come? 2. How selfish is Eric to go and see Sally on the day that her daughter is doing the biopsy and Sally would be beside herself to talk about Dylan and Jessica’s trial? Eric has no scruples. He’s an insensitive prick
1 - Sally knows that Thorne is there with Macy and probably wants to give them privacy. She'll be going to the hospital later. 2 - I agree wholeheartedly about Eric's selfishness. This is who he is.
Eric didn't even care when _his own son_ was in the hospital. Remember when Ridge got attacked outside Pierre's and Eric's chief concern was how it affected Brooke? 🥴
Eric going over to Sally's when he knows Macy could be dying in an to attempt to blow her out over the likes of Dylan and Jessica (I say attempt bc he is so lame even when he's blowing a gasket).. Is typical, selfish Eric. Sally should have pelted him with eggs or something
That mushy storyline with Macy and Thorne is so lame... What is it with the B&B women falling sick all the time? Caroline should never have died from leukemia. She should have remained with Ridge. And of course Stephanie's cancer and her exit from the show.
The writers like to write about nothing for so long that even good storylines lose their strength. I'm glad that Macy's tumor was revealed to Thorne relatively soon, compared to the other storylines. They talk about something rather than let that something happen and let the plot go on naturally
@@babs4848 i mean the Dylan trial should have been tried already, Sheila/Eric/James drags too long already. I get why they drag Taylor coming back to LA , so they can build up and strengthen Ridge/Brooke and the kids dynamic .. but back in the early days the show was very exciting
@@greggel right, but I think that they should have revealed Taylor at the palace. Then they should have used the night at the cabin to split Tridge, or Taylor furious because Ridge remarried too soon and go on with the triangle with Bridget's paternity. There were plenty of ways to make it entertaining for us.
The last weeks have been boring. I see why Days of Our Lives gained more viewers during late 1994. The stories here are not interesting... 1993 was much better.
Sheila: "What do you want, Mike..." She is not satisfied... Sheila, say thank you that you have Mike, that there is someone around you who is interested in you and talks to you, and it is with him that you are impatient...You have a serious problem Sheila, that you are still in the environment that is hostile and rejects you and you are still fighting to be there... Sheila does need urgent psychiatric treatment, but certainly not at James the idiot...
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"Last thing you want is to end up in a blizzard with Dr. Feel Good."
Even Mike's grossed out about what Taylor did with James.
Lol
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😂😂😂
LMAO 😂
😂😂😂
First thing i thought too😂
Thank goodness they did over the cabin.. Big Bear needed sanitising BIG TIME.
Meanwhile... as we shall see.. Sheila and James will be WORSE than Taylor and James🤢
One thing I hated about b&b was how they continually wrecked Thorne and Macy; you just ended up getting tired of them after so many times.
I loved Thorne and Macy but what annoyed me was that there always seemed to be scenes missing from their storylines. Like when Macy collapsed and we got no follow-up the next episode, and then suddenly she was on a plane doing okay. That would never have happened if Brooke had fainted.
Its hard for me to belive that stephanie and eric would be depending on James when they could send a private eye to Genoa city with a picture of Sheila to investigate 😒
Major plot hole.
Love Saul's wisdom
It's interesting how the side characters are often wiser and more insightful than the main players they act as support to. Saul's interpretation of the Thorne/Macy relationship is so sensitive and moving. If demonstrates why characters like Saul and Kevin deserved so much more than what they got during their runs on the show.
Yes, hearing Saul talk about Thorne and Macy like that was moving. He is such a dear old man! ❤
Thorne will never ever abandon macy again...
Future brooke just burst out of laughter😂😂😂😂😂
AND- Taylor AND- Darla
Sad scenes with Thorne and Macy!! Knowing Macy realy needs Thorne but sends him away to spare him because she believes she has cancer and doesn’t want to see him suffer because of that. When is she is going to think about her own needs first instead of his needs? Such good acting again with these two❤️. They are ALWAYS believable together! And also loved how Saul talked about Thorne and Macy’s story and how they are soulmates.
Yes, Macy says she is "making perfect sense" but she's really not. I think what's driving Macy to do this is her guilt about her alcoholism - she keeps talking about how much she let Thorne down in the past, and how much pain she caused him. Back then she was ill and it was difficult for Thorne, and now she doesn't want to burden him with her illness again.
So Eric has never known Sheila to be violent...
Eric has never known Sheila, period.
You got that right as always Annie
Periodtttt
It's how he keeps talking about Sheila like they've been childhood friends or something...
Sheila and brooke bat their eyelashes at the men but are ruthless to any woman standing in their way so forgive the old fool he doesn't know any better
He married a total stranger…
Sheilis was very nice and calm,they kept provoking her.
❤❤❤ " ... We had it all!" Macy echoes my thoughts about her and Thorne's "one magical night ... the greatest moment of her life." Macy and Thorne were truly connected. They made it! They had it all! For a moment!
Macy delivers her lines so bravely, so firmly fluent, so structured. It's really heart wrenching, yet beautiful and fulfilling.
Angel/Trinidad.
❤❤❤.
Did Mike call James a "genius" at getting ppl to reveal secrets?
😂😂😂
Which James is he talking about?? Certainly not Warwick... It's been months and he hasn't gotten anything out of Sheila.
The writers really are trying to sell us a bill of goods about James, just like they try hard to sell us the star crossed lovers of Brooke /Ridge.
😂😂
Macy throwing away her support system is not the reality all cancer victims need
Macy is not thinking straight. I think she's still feeling guilty about her alcoholism and she doesn't want to burden Thorne now that she has another illness.
@@annieo6527 My husband did the same to me when he had his liver transplant and then years later with lung cancer and their was no way I was leaving him and I totally understand why he was trying to protect me and our kids and I thank god he made it and in remission now thank god
@@kchellkat1847 ❤️ glad to hear he's doing okay!
@@annieo6527 Thanks so much ❤️❤️❤️
@@kchellkat1847 I am so happy for you and your husband! My story with mine didn't have that happy ending from lung cancer. I miss him every day.
I loved Jeff and Bobbie as Thorne and Macy. I always thought the way Saul said to Sally, that they are like Romeo and Juliette. I wish the writers kept Jeff as Thorne, and had them continue their singing career, and had them have a child together, thereby solidifying their love! The show never should have replaced Jeff with Windsor Harmon as Thorne.
I agree. I keep wondering how their storyline would have continued, if Jeff would have stayed as Thorne. I can't see the Thorne & Darla or Thorne & Brooke story happening, if Thorne would have still been portrayed by Jeff.
@@Nathalie_0305I can't see Jeff in _any_ of WH's storylines to be honest. In a way, Thorne and Macy's story ended in 1995.
I wish in exactly the same way that the B&B writers kept Thorne and Macy's storyline alive, faithful and do more poetic justice for all following years. As Thorne, Jeff is an incredible singer, and Bobbie's voice as Macy came from an essence of purity and childlike, so great.... their music together were like an unstoppable romantic force you can listen unlimitedly from a jukebox.
I agree that those storylines involving Darla and Brooke would not have worked with if Jeff stayed on as Thorne. Jeff is my favorite Thorne all day long! @@Nathalie_0305
@@annieo6527 I stopped watching when Jeff and Bobbie had left the show and Thorne was like a completely different person since WH took over. Like you said, the couple Thorne & Macy didn't exist anymore after Jeff left the show.
What kind of logic does Shelia have , ‘ it’s either telling the truth to Eric or losing him ‘. Mmmmk
Stephanie is actually correct about Sheila. Stephanie already knows Sheilas hyper and her unstable side. She already knows how tense sheila can be. Stephanie is right about jays death. Sheila had something to do with it.
I wonder if it ever comes to light what Sheila did there. Eric than needs to appologize big time to Stephanie.
Eric the forever idiot.
I call her banana cakes !! 😂😂
Sheila did not push Jay, but she was there when he slipped and fell over the balcony
❤❤❤ Angel & CC appreciates you Saul! Its wonderful to see you supporting and advising Sally. What a big little man! Hats off to Saul.🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗.
Angel/Trinidad.
❤❤❤.
He's the best and I love the relationship that Sally,Darla and Macy have together, that's a real family
Isn't it funny how when Saul talks about Thorne and Macy being soulmates it's moving but when Brooke talks about her and Ridge this way it's annoying?
It's a case of showing versus telling.
Thorne and Macy have been _shown_ to be soulmates, and only now do we hear another character commenting on it because he has observed them the way we have and drawn the same conclusions.
By contrast, Brooke keeps _telling_ us that she and Ridge are soulmates but what is actually shown on screen doesn't exactly back up her claim.
Because Brooke is selfish and talking about HER SELF. Saul is talking about someone else.
@@TarafromToronto and of course when talking about soulmates, Brooke is usually talking about _someone else's husband._
@@annieo6527 Exactly! That's why I've never liked Brooke and don't buy her "I'm just a little girl from the valley" shtick.
Well, Ridge and Brooke were never soulmates in the first place, but Cridge were. Besides, Macy and Thorne have much better chemistry and warmth together in my opinion.
"My options are limited...My hands are tied behind my back" - exactly like what you were saying yesterday, Nick!
Sheila is so kin k y.
@@NewYorkNick0607 😂 Nothing gets by you! 🤣
@@sharonstewart4882 Sheila's got "long and hard" on her mind (2:46)
@@NewYorkNick0607 BRUH 🤣
😂😂😂❤❤
Stephanie is once again (as usual) playing the part of the show's Cassandra - being prophetic and speaking the truth to deaf ears.
At this point she should just have a bunch of business cards printed with "I told you so" on them.
Lol business cards
I would buy a t-shirt with her face and that sentence on it.
Remember that time I said she needed to get that printed on a tshirt 😂
She needed those tshirts in bulk
@@TriniT21 😂
@@babs4848 Me too
It's nice to have Stephanie on the thumbnail every once in a while! The ones with Omar or Brooke should be blurred and marked as "Sensitive Content". 😵💫🥴
Oh Yes. Brooke will do well in Omar's Harem !!! 😂😂
🤣💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@MrCraigblazeSo true
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😂😂😂 y'all are some savages and I'm here for it
Looks like the show dropped the whole "Who killed Dr James Garvin storyline ?? Notice how the show just dropped the whole thing ??
Here we have Saul actually explicitly spelling out the Thorne/Macy story arc on the structural level, and in doing so, nearly breaking the fourth wall to speak directly to the viewers. He recaps their entire history, compares them to Romeo and Juliet, talks about their failed marriage and how they have suffered and learnt from it, and that they are soulmates meant to be together. And actually, this is a pretty accurate description of their storyline - the "trial by fire" they are about to face will in fact prove that they *have* matured and learnt from past mistakes, and although the worst is still ahead of them, they will endure and earn their happily ever after in the end. (That is, if you count 1995 as the end point of their original story, which I think is reasonable because the next time Thorne and Macy will have a storyline after that, it will be a year later and Thorne will be a different person.)
It's worth noting how out of all the Shakespeare parallels in Thorne and Macy's story that I've mentioned before - Romeo/Juliet, Othello/Desdemona, Hamlet/Ophelia - the show chooses to explicitly reference only Romeo and Juliet, even though the similarities between these characters and Thorne and Macy lie mainly on the outside circumstances, not in the inner psychology (which is often much closer to the Othello/Desdemona dynamic)
That was beautiful and the poignant music underscoring the scene tells the viewer that Saul is being a reliable narrator about Thorne and Macy. And Saul's "feeling" about Macy's tumor is also correct! The only bad read he had was Anthony being a good guy. 😬
@@NewYorkNick0607 actually, I think he'll turn out to be wrong about the tumor too. And the show is trying to portray him as a quasi unreliable narrator by cutting between his narration and the scenes of Macy pushing Thorne away. (That is, although he is actually _right,_ the show is making us _believe_ he is wrong about Thorne and Macy being "meant to be together", in order to add importance to the breakup scenes by making us believe they *are* actual breakup scenes.)
@@annieo6527 So he gets the essence right but not the details. Give him a break. The man's a hundred years old. 😂
@@NewYorkNick0607 he's adorable! ❤
I thought it was funny how the show didn't even try to conceal that Saul was basically playing the part of the Chorus in Romeo and Juliet.
@@annieo6527 The whole Spectra gang has often served as a Chorus for the show (usually with Sally musing on the goings-on at "La Casa Forrester" honey). Having them talk about Thorne and Macy this way signals Macy's status as half-Forrester.
Wait. Is that an _apology_ I hear from Thorne? An admission that _he_ made mistakes? This has got to be the first time that happens in all the years he and Macy have known each other. Wonders will never cease.
(See, there is hope for his redemption yet!)
No doctor would mention cancer before a biopsy?!!!! It doesn’t happen!!!! It could be a benign growth?!!!!
So I have one question & one comment about this episode.
1-why isn’t Sally at the hospital being with her daughter right before her biopsy? Not sure why she’s at work when her daughter is freaked. Did Macy ask her not to come?
2. How selfish is Eric to go and see Sally on the day that her daughter is doing the biopsy and Sally would be beside herself to talk about Dylan and Jessica’s trial? Eric has no scruples. He’s an insensitive prick
1 - Sally knows that Thorne is there with Macy and probably wants to give them privacy. She'll be going to the hospital later.
2 - I agree wholeheartedly about Eric's selfishness. This is who he is.
Eric didn't even care when _his own son_ was in the hospital. Remember when Ridge got attacked outside Pierre's and Eric's chief concern was how it affected Brooke? 🥴
Eric going over to Sally's when he knows Macy could be dying in an to attempt to blow her out over the likes of Dylan and Jessica (I say attempt bc he is so lame even when he's blowing a gasket).. Is typical, selfish Eric.
Sally should have pelted him with eggs or something
Well, what's new, it is usually, Eric doesn't see anyone left or right, only himself, a selfish character, a dry radish, devoid of emotions...
Eric only cares for little Eric (the one on his pants)😅
I just love Saul's wisdom.🌹
"Making perfect sense" according to Macy: Risk your life for a man, then break up with him.
Lol yes she was making perfect sense😅
Hollywood has come so far.
Look at this hospital , looks like a bedroom.
Thanks a lot. ❤❤❤
That mushy storyline with Macy and Thorne is so lame... What is it with the B&B women falling sick all the time? Caroline should never have died from leukemia. She should have remained with Ridge. And of course Stephanie's cancer and her exit from the show.
I completely agree this time😊👍
@@susankent6051 Brooke's honeymoon sea--sickness can stay though 🤭
@@susankent6051Well, I'll be damned!
@@sharonstewart4882Brooke can stay gone forever, I could care less about her😂👍
@@sharonstewart4882 😂🤭
Lovely thunbnail !!😂😂
is it me or storylines move very slowly?
The writers like to write about nothing for so long that even good storylines lose their strength. I'm glad that Macy's tumor was revealed to Thorne relatively soon, compared to the other storylines. They talk about something rather than let that something happen and let the plot go on naturally
@@babs4848 i mean the Dylan trial should have been tried already, Sheila/Eric/James drags too long already. I get why they drag Taylor coming back to LA , so they can build up and strengthen Ridge/Brooke and the kids dynamic .. but back in the early days the show was very exciting
@@greggel right, but I think that they should have revealed Taylor at the palace. Then they should have used the night at the cabin to split Tridge, or Taylor furious because Ridge remarried too soon and go on with the triangle with Bridget's paternity. There were plenty of ways to make it entertaining for us.
@@babs4848 i think they wanted Taylor to not lose Ridge cleanly by Brooke. And the storyline changed afterwards when HT left the show for MP
This whole season moving slowly with one episode a day 😒🙄
The last weeks have been boring. I see why Days of Our Lives gained more viewers during late 1994. The stories here are not interesting... 1993 was much better.
So true!! This is why I didn’t watch when it aired.
Very true
Current episodes of B&B showing Eric with signs of dementia 😲😟
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 yes i watched the other day and Eric was acting strange.???
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849where do I start 😝
1994 episodes of B&B showing Eric with signs of dementia...
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 he forgot the name of Sheila's imaginary cat...
Macy wanted to fight death by doing live performances... But eventually in 2003 she will die during a live performance...
Yes, it's ironic that she risked her life for this concert but what killed her was _another_ concert.
Sheila: "What do you want, Mike..." She is not satisfied... Sheila, say thank you that you have Mike, that there is someone around you who is interested in you and talks to you, and it is with him that you are impatient...You have a serious problem Sheila, that you are still in the environment that is hostile and rejects you and you are still fighting to be there... Sheila does need urgent psychiatric treatment, but certainly not at James the idiot...
Stephanie acts classy but she drove away every one of Eric's wives but the one wife that she couldn't drive away is Brooke Logan Forrester
But she was badly abused
@@nofarshaked2954 who are you talking about was abused Stephanie or Brooke
@@victoriaford8449 what did not you understand ?! Stephanie couldn't get Brooke off but she treated her very well, as she deserves...