I look forward to hearing your traveling-light photo adventures. I've found the more light you have the more you wonder why you didn't lighten your camera load earlier. However, it becomes quite a challenge competing with full-frame gear in low light but it's amazing how much you can accomplish with a superzoom camera if you take the time to explore its capabilities. Good luck.
Thanks for watching. Since making this video a couple years back, I have returned to Nikon for astro photography but kept the Sony for pretty much everything else.
@@NigelBaileyPhotography Hard to beat that full-frame Nikon sensor for low light. I'll have to check out some of your other videos to see what you've been doing with the Sony camera(s).
So amazing, because I am going thru the same transition right now. I bought a used RX100 IV from a friend and love the sharpness of it and the quality from such a compact camera. Can take it with me everywhere. Then I just purchased a new RX10 IV which I have wanted for a couple years. I have always shot with Nikon and shoot a lot with the D7100 and the D500. They have been excellent cameras. But these Sonys are so sharp and AF is fast and crisp and the cameras are so versatile. And just fun to shoot with. I will probably keep the Nikons I have for certain shoots but definitely leaning toward Sony for any new purchases. Thank you for your videos!
Deep Shock! Totally understandable, I have a great chum who is very close to making exactly the same quantum-leap. I'll watch and follow your new adventures with enormous interest Nigel and who knows.....mimicry being the finest form of flattery! Enjoy & good luck.
Can't go wrong with these choices. Great zoom on one, fast glass on the other. Both can fit easily in a bag. High quality photos and amazing features. It covers almost everything one needs in a system.
I'm actually thinking about doing the opposite trip now. I've owned bridge cameras since the Fujifilm I bought in 2003, and currently own the Panasonic FZ1000. But I feel the limitations of the format and want to step up my photography results. I feel that 1" sensor limits me from expressing myself fully, and I really want to advance. SO I am thinking to upgrade to APS-C camera like the Sony A6400. Yet, I'd really hate to lose the zoom capabilities, so I simply think of getting 2 lenses 18-135 and a prime lens 30mm f1.4. I know I'll be giving up some capabilities for other ones. So I was also thinking of getting a 2nd hand RX10iv... But then I'm stuck again with the limitations of the 1" sensor (and it has no timelapse capability nor a rotating screen).
Well what a change, and well done for not being a dinosaur. You’ll find your productivity will increase because of the ease of one of those cameras being in your pocket. Looking forward to a Dartmoor video with some of the Astro stuff thrown in. ATB
Thanks Yarg. BTW - It's not so much about feeling that Nikon/DSLRs are outdated, just that I now need a different solution. In a perfect world, with unlimited funds, perfect fitness and no limits on what my body is capable of carrying, I'd have both systems :-)
I recently did the same thing Nigel, though the Fuji X2 route rather than Sony. I found my heart was sinking at the prospect of lugging my Nikon D810 plus lenses et al plus camping gear up Kinder Scout or a Cumbrian fell, and at least halving the weight of the camera stuff raised my spirits enough to get me out there again - look forward to viewing your further vlogs as always :-)
I recently sold my fuji mirrorless equipment and moved over to Sony. I still wanted a full frame camera for portraits, landscapes and candid portraiture/street. So I bought a Sony A7III, however, I only use prime lenses on it to keep the weight down and quality up. For my everyday photography I bought the Rx100 m7 which is amazing!! I am now thinking of buying the RX10 IV to cover my wildlife and sports photography as that is what I am missing. It is either that or the Sony 100-400mm for the A7III but that will be heavy and more expensive.
Sounds like you have it all sorted ;-) I would love to be able to afford the A7III and a bunch of primes. Trouble is, I would be going round in circles, rebuilding a kit that is once again too extensive to haul up a mountain ;-)
Interesting vlog as always Nigel and I look forward to seeing the results of your work using your new set up. Sounds exciting and I bet you will also appreciate the reduction of weight you will be carrying in the future as well. Congratulations on 100K channel views, a fine achievement indeed, cheers Alan
Nice one Nigel. I couldn't agree more with your choices . Well done making the decision and moving forwards. Sometimes the leap is the hardest bit. 😀 congrats on 100k views. Best wishes .. Steve
Good to see you back Nigel! I'm a fan of the RX100 and RX10. Had the Mk1 RX10 since it came out and now use it as backup camera to a Sony RX7. The RX10 Mk4 will serve you well, just be careful on long exposures, the Sony App works well but does give "jagged" edges, so isnt reliable, using it as a normal LE camera anything over 30 secs will be absolutely full off Sensor noise, and even at 30 secs its pretty bad, so be prepared to switch on Long Exposure Noise Reduction in the menu, and allow the extra time for it to process each LE shot. The other thing with the RX10 and LE's is a filter system like the Lee one will give aweful vignetting at wide angle, the screw-in ND filters give much more manageable vignetting. Have fun! Joe
Thanks Joe - especially for the Long Exp advice - I am partially to long exps, so it will be interesting to see how that works out. Rarely above 30 secs though. I do have a Tiffen variable ND filter for the RX10 iv as well as a range of Lee Filters grad NDs and a Big Stopper. It's going to be fun trying it all out. I plan to use an external remote system for long exposures and as an intervalometer. Don't suppose you know a good intervalometer to use with the RX10 iv?
I use the Formatt-Hitech Firecrest screw-in filters (Polariser, ND4 ND8 ND16) with a magnetic mount system, easy peasy putting them on and taking them off for recomposing etc. I found Firecrest to be much better than Lee. I use the stock cheapo Ebay intervalometer on my A7R, havent ever tried it on the RX10 but no reason it wont work fine, the Sony release is expensive and does almost nothing. Very tempted myself to switch out my A7R for the RX10 3 or 4, but I have found the A7R paired with the Sony 24-240 is almost like a bridge camera on steroids, so I just carry the one camera and lens for everything. If you dont get on with the RX10 (but I am sure you will!) a great alternative is using that Sony full frame 24-240 lens on an A7x, doesnt weight much more in total than the latest RX10, and does everything full-frame, I do 8 minute exposures with no sensor noise. Am very interested to see your journey switching to the RX range, you will miss some stuff I am sure, but the small size, low weight and having everything with you every time you shoot does make an enormous difference.
I find it difficult to compare the D800 with these little cameras. I think you are making a big mistake but only you can know that. I would like to hear your thoughts after a few months of use and a follow up video. All the best Nigel!
Thanks for contributing to the conversation. So far, I'm loving the new gear. The only thing I am missing is being able to set up a deferred time for a series of shots on the D800's intervalometer. Being able to set a timer for astro shots to start at 1.00 am was luxury. My plug in intervalometer doesn't have the option of setting a start time. May have to invest in a better one. But, image-wise, very promising so far.
DSLR Life - Nigel Bailey Glad you are enjoying it. I would like to hear your thought on a follow up video after a few months of use. I guess I am one of those people who cannot be convinced yet to give up my dslr. Thomas Heaton did a similar video recently on the same matter and he was not really convinced either. Some of his arguments I believe in them too. Anyway, the most important thing is to enjoy your new gear and enjoy photography. All the best as always. 😀
Hello from Kyiv. Interesting video but I understand exactly what you are saying. I am a Sony shooter. I shoot fashion models and portraits in general but I do like street photography and wildlife in my resting time. I have the A9, A7 III with lenses and lighting equipment. For me in my work it is not so bad to carry the gear I need for a shoot on location. My work is different. But I also bought the RX10 MK4 as a walk about camera. Something I can keep next with me always. I am amazed and I continue to be amazed by this camera. Excellent for street photography, travel, wildlife and I even experimented on a photo shoot with a model. The results were great that the company which I shoot for wanted the shots from the RX10 MK4 to use as a part of the portfolio I was hired to shoot. One thing I will say is to use this camera a lot to learn how to work around situations. When you are used to everything about this camera you can really push it to get the professional results. It is a hard to describe camera. It is not full frame and has one card slot. It is a bridge camera and a lot of pros give it a bad write up but I do not think they even tried to use it. It performs and performs very well. It is not a pro camera but at the same time it is not a beginners camera. Some people say it is a point and shoot bridge camera but it has so many pro features that it would be hard to see a family man getting the full use from this on a holiday with his family. I bought it as a carry it everywhere with me camera when I do not want my gear with me and I will say I get more shots with this than my pro gear because I do not need to change lenses and so on. I bought a Cokin grad filter set and a Tiffen variable ND filter for this camera. So far excellent. By the way you will need some batteries for it. I bought these from here www.duracelldirect.co.uk/digital-camera/sony/oem-pno/np-fw50.html#tab-content_1_VP-JQ333Y. I bought a dual charger from eBay made by Powerextra which is small and very compact. You can buy 4 batteries and the dual charger for just a little more than one Sony OEM battery. You will be very happy with your choices and I do recommend this camera as the only one of its kind in the world at this time. Regards
Hi - thanks for such a comprehensive comment. As I get to know the RX10 iv I find myself more and more impressed with it. Thanks for the accessory tips. I bought a good supply of batteries and a dual charger and have a good range of Lee Filters already; I did, however, add a Tiffen variable ND to my kit.
That's very interesting as i'm thinking of getting the RX10 iv and the perspective of a professional photographer is valuable to me in helping to make the decision.I've been flip flopping between buying/not buying but the 24-600mm option on such a relatively lightweight camera is very tempting ! Thanks for your input.
I did exactly the same thing Nigel about six months ago and I love Nikon gear and wont say a bad word about the D800/810, apart from the weight that is. Unfortunately I didn't get on with Sony gear as personally I found they were not for me. After a few trips aIaway I switched to a fuji X-T2 and fujinon XF lenses, I now love using the fuji gear. As long as you don't want to pixel peep you can achieve great things without the need for a full frame sensor (i know that's against the current popular trend to think so). Hope it works out for you!
Steve Millington thanks for contributing Steve. I confess that I have some reservations about the 1” Sony sensors - especially for astro and low-light event photography use; I’m coming to the view that they are not going to cut it for that. That said, video quality is streets better, and the form factor works well for my current purposes. I shall post updates as my longer term use begins to result in some meaningful conclusions.
@@NigelBaileyPhotography consider trying a star tracking tripod head to overcome for astrophotography, I can get a 4 min exposure at iso200 without star elongation and noise with my small sensor at 16mm, great for the Milkyway. :)
Thanks for that - certainly worth considering. what tracking head do you use? Of course, that works for one-off stills, but not so much for Timelapse I guess.
@@NigelBaileyPhotography I went for the Skywatcher star-adventurer pro but ioptron skytracker pro is just as good, and much smaller. Amazing difference having the night sky at ISO200 instead of 2500+ But yes counter productive for star trails. With my aps-c I now get much better milky way images than I could ever do with my D810, the point being there are ways and means when moving from FX baxk to DX! Keep the great videos coming! :)
Your back will thank you in time! Think of scrambling up a steep slope with a DLSR. Your more flexible being light. Looking forward to seeing how you get on. A waterproof bag might be worth it. The gimbal might not like rain either!
Indeed - durability of all the new kit will be an option. I have copious waterproof bags to keep things weatherproof. The bigger risk is going to be simple breakages through dropping and stuff getting blown over. My old Nikon stuff was bust but still succumbed to physical and weather damage on occasion. Last year I had a big(ish) insurance claim from a busted Nikon D800 and iPhone 6 Plus due to pretty extreme weather conditions on Mam Tor. I learned some important lessons that day...
Nigel I did the same thing. I have a Sony RX 10 iv and Sony RX 100 V. I sold all my Nikon gear and bought a Sony RX 10 iv. I had the Sony RX 100 V while I still had my Nikon gear. I was using the Sony rx 100 v and not using my using my Nikon Gear. Carrying my Nikon gear caused my back to hurt. I am much happier with the lighter load. The Sony cameras take good pictures and do what I need them to do. I am thinking about trading in my Sony RX 100 V for a Sony RX 100 VI. The Sony RX 100 VI looks like the ultimate travel camera. I would still keep the RX 10 for wildlife and Zoo photography.
I'm with you on all of this I'm enroute to a photography seminar in North Carolina and I'm taking my D300 with an 80-200 f.28, plus Sigma 150-600. I'm also taking a couple mirrorless Samsungs (NX1 and NX30) with a full array of lenses. Add the accessory gear, flash, tripod, monopod, etc. and I end up with way more gear than I really want to be bothered with. All the Nikon stuff is going after I up-downgrade to the RX10 IV. I'm keeping the Samsungs. The NX1 is a first rate "C" sensor camera, and the NX30 has been converted for near infrared. The lenses are mostly small and lightweight. Naysayers be damned, I'm ready for lightweight and easy to travel with gear.
Yep - had one of those - nice f/4.0 - I bought one to try it for wide angle astro work but it really just wasn't fast enough for that. Then kept leaving it behind in favour of the 24-70mm f/2.8 :-(
DSLR Life - Nigel Bailey - yes, I went out to Butser Hill just up the road from me last week to attempt a Milky Way shot. It was ok but would have preferred something faster.
Got to say as a longtime Nikon man like yourself - and I can’t bring myself to sell the Nikon yet! - I just love the Fuji - convenience, features eg auto focus stacking etc - quality of images despite reduced pixel count... I’m a convert!
Just curious as to whether you looked at the Panasonic equivalents and what attracted you to the Sony models given their price premium? There's no doubting their capability and I'm thinking of going for an RX10iv myself, and I'm currently using a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000 that I've never really gelled with (having come from a Nikon D90 plus lenses for similar reasons to you). Interested to hear your thoughts, and I hope you're getting on well with the gear changes!
Hi, and thanks for your question. There isn't really a short answer to that. Although the RX10iv and the FZ2500 appear superficially very similar, the Sony out-scores on so many features, especially in focussing, in frames-per-second, high frame rate video, video formats... perhaps the best I can do is link you to a video that sums a lot of this top pretty well that you can find here: ruclips.net/video/8PzHqrl73uM/видео.html&frags=pl%2Cwn
I have a new video going live at 4 pm today, and I hope you'll agree, if you watch it, that the Sony gives some pretty impressive results. I'm sure that the Panasonic can too - the real power of the camera lies in the hands of the user.
Hi, thanks for the reply and the link to the comparison video. I really like the Sony, it's just the price differential that I can't quite get over but there is no question that it's the best camera of its type. Having used it for a while now, do you find it serves your needs well given the kit you had before (I note that you've now got a D700 for the low light / astro stuff). What about IQ compared to what you've been used to with the Nikons? I've never found the IQ from the FZ1000 to be particularly pleasing having come from a Nikon D90, and I'm worried about being disappointed even with the Sony. Many people have made similar changes to you, and so perhaps my worries are unfounded (and I should stop pixel peeping!). Did you try out the Panasonics before purchasing? I do bow to the expertise of those like yourself who've had top end equipment and made the switch to this camera, and perhaps I should stop over thinking about this! There are so many options out there now, it's very difficult to know what to do for the best! Thanks again.
@@NigelBaileyPhotography I look forward to seeing this video later. I think your videos are great, and really bring home the relaxing and rewarding aspects of photography!
soon you will get tired of 1 inch sensor quality and switch to something larger again! a much better choice if you into sony path is a6500 and 2 lens, one zoom and one prime or if you want more lightweight, Olympus M4/3 system!
God I hate mirrorless cameras they are not tough like dslr, having to clean sensor more often due to dust is very annoying. Guess I will stick to dslr. I'm currently saving to move from mirrorless to dslr. People nowadays don't have minds, they are so obsessed with gear. Canon was doing a perfect job, it is just these young generation photographers that really really suck. People who are complaining about video features, first of all, if you're into video work, buy a proper video camera/cinema camera, for business and if you are doing it just for RUclips or vlogging or any casual stuff, then you don't need any features like these, just record and upload. And on the other hand, in photography just buy a dslr like Nikon or Canon and just do your commercial work, I prefer dslr for photography over mirrorless because they can take more beating, and last longer than mirrorless cameras and photos from dslr feels organic, dslr do not have that digital and too sharp look that mobile phones and mirrorless cameras have. And if you are not doing business stuff then your smartphone camera is the way to go. These youtubers know nothing about cameras, they just make you overthink about gear and then you're not even doing any creative work, just gear, gear and gear. Just be confident on what gear you have and make money from it and enjoy and travel more :) forget about everything else. I'm now getting rid of my mirrorless gear and saving up for 5D Mark IV with Canon 35mm f1.4l ii, Canon 70-200mm f2.8l iii, Sigma 20mm f1.4 ART, Canon 100mm f2.8l Macro for photography but for now I create with what I have.
Bilal Ahmed guess I must have hit a nerve there 😉 Durability may we’ll end up being an issue - time will tell. Keeping all the DSLR gear AND buying a video camera and then lugging the whole lot up a mountain is just not realistic for me - so I’m going to give it a go. I’m not worried about whether it has a mirror or not - just the weight and accessibility. Will get zero dust on the sensors - neither new camera has interchangeable lenses. I think this will free me up to concentrate more on composition.
DSLR Life - Nigel Bailey didn't meant to offend anybody, anyway everyone has its own opinion. Do what you like. But even in the age I'm in I don't mind carrying heavy gear (to the top of the mountain or anywhere) for business purpose. The quality I'm getting is totally worth a little hassle. When battery is at the end, I can just turn off dslr and get everything ready and look for the composition of the shot without rushing because of OVF then turn the camera on and take the picture, then turn it off again for the next shot but EVF also come handy from my mirrorless cameras sometimes but it is just me. No offense!
Hi Mike - I think things have moved on quite a bit since the A7R and the A6000. It's early days, but I'm pretty impressed so far. In an ideal world I would keep the DSLR, especially for low light events and astro work. But, as a full-time mature student I can't afford to double up on systems. I think I'm gaining in some areas and losing out in others, but overall the new kit is likely to better suit my current use. Over the coming weeks and months I shall try to give some honest feedback through the channel in the hope that it might help other people in a similar fix. Thanks for contributing. I do hope that you enjoy the Pentax system. Haven't had a Pentax since the early 80s.
I look forward to hearing your traveling-light photo adventures. I've found the more light you have the more you wonder why you didn't lighten your camera load earlier. However, it becomes quite a challenge competing with full-frame gear in low light but it's amazing how much you can accomplish with a superzoom camera if you take the time to explore its capabilities. Good luck.
Thanks for watching. Since making this video a couple years back, I have returned to Nikon for astro photography but kept the Sony for pretty much everything else.
@@NigelBaileyPhotography Hard to beat that full-frame Nikon sensor for low light. I'll have to check out some of your other videos to see what you've been doing with the Sony camera(s).
So amazing, because I am going thru the same transition right now. I bought a used RX100 IV from a friend and love the sharpness of it and the quality from such a compact camera. Can take it with me everywhere. Then I just purchased a new RX10 IV which I have wanted for a couple years. I have always shot with Nikon and shoot a lot with the D7100 and the D500. They have been excellent cameras. But these Sonys are so sharp and AF is fast and crisp and the cameras are so versatile. And just fun to shoot with. I will probably keep the Nikons I have for certain shoots but definitely leaning toward Sony for any new purchases. Thank you for your videos!
I already have the rx100 V... and I plan to do the exact same thing and add the RX10 IV for a simple yet powerful travel combo....primarily video.
They certainly make a powerful combination. Thanks for watching
I look forward to seeing how you get on with the RX100V and RX10IV combo. I’ve been on a similar path of trying to shrink my camera setup for years.
Roo's Views I’ve made a good start and will soon be making a few videos about the experience
Deep Shock! Totally understandable, I have a great chum who is very close to making exactly the same quantum-leap. I'll watch and follow your new adventures with enormous interest Nigel and who knows.....mimicry being the finest form of flattery! Enjoy & good luck.
Thanks Ian - I will be sure to post some updates then.
Can't go wrong with these choices. Great zoom on one, fast glass on the other. Both can fit easily in a bag. High quality photos and amazing features. It covers almost everything one needs in a system.
Quite right - I should be able to cover most of the bases between the two cameras.
I'm actually thinking about doing the opposite trip now. I've owned bridge cameras since the Fujifilm I bought in 2003, and currently own the Panasonic FZ1000. But I feel the limitations of the format and want to step up my photography results. I feel that 1" sensor limits me from expressing myself fully, and I really want to advance. SO I am thinking to upgrade to APS-C camera like the Sony A6400. Yet, I'd really hate to lose the zoom capabilities, so I simply think of getting 2 lenses 18-135 and a prime lens 30mm f1.4. I know I'll be giving up some capabilities for other ones. So I was also thinking of getting a 2nd hand RX10iv... But then I'm stuck again with the limitations of the 1" sensor (and it has no timelapse capability nor a rotating screen).
Well what a change, and well done for not being a dinosaur. You’ll find your productivity will increase because of the ease of one of those cameras being in your pocket. Looking forward to a Dartmoor video with some of the Astro stuff thrown in. ATB
Thanks Yarg. BTW - It's not so much about feeling that Nikon/DSLRs are outdated, just that I now need a different solution. In a perfect world, with unlimited funds, perfect fitness and no limits on what my body is capable of carrying, I'd have both systems :-)
Wow a daring step, looking forward to the results with the sony gear.
Thanks for watching. Hopefully, it won't be too long before I have some results to put up on the channel.
I recently did the same thing Nigel, though the Fuji X2 route rather than Sony. I found my heart was sinking at the prospect of lugging my Nikon D810 plus lenses et al plus camping gear up Kinder Scout or a Cumbrian fell, and at least halving the weight of the camera stuff raised my spirits enough to get me out there again - look forward to viewing your further vlogs as always :-)
I can see something of a theme gathering here in the comments. I'm not alone! How is the Fuji working out?
I recently sold my fuji mirrorless equipment and moved over to Sony. I still wanted a full frame camera for portraits, landscapes and candid portraiture/street. So I bought a Sony A7III, however, I only use prime lenses on it to keep the weight down and quality up. For my everyday photography I bought the Rx100 m7 which is amazing!! I am now thinking of buying the RX10 IV to cover my wildlife and sports photography as that is what I am missing. It is either that or the Sony 100-400mm for the A7III but that will be heavy and more expensive.
Sounds like you have it all sorted ;-) I would love to be able to afford the A7III and a bunch of primes. Trouble is, I would be going round in circles, rebuilding a kit that is once again too extensive to haul up a mountain ;-)
Interesting vlog as always Nigel and I look forward to seeing the results of your work using your new set up. Sounds exciting and I bet you will also appreciate the reduction of weight you will be carrying in the future as well. Congratulations on 100K channel views, a fine achievement indeed, cheers Alan
Thanks Alan. The weight really is a big issue, as is the physical space it all takes up.
Nice one Nigel. I couldn't agree more with your choices . Well done making the decision and moving forwards. Sometimes the leap is the hardest bit. 😀 congrats on 100k views. Best wishes .. Steve
Steve D thanks Steve. I’m really liking the new gear so far
thats great... looking forward to seeing your vids about both cameras. :-)
Good to see you back Nigel! I'm a fan of the RX100 and RX10. Had the Mk1 RX10 since it came out and now use it as backup camera to a Sony RX7. The RX10 Mk4 will serve you well, just be careful on long exposures, the Sony App works well but does give "jagged" edges, so isnt reliable, using it as a normal LE camera anything over 30 secs will be absolutely full off Sensor noise, and even at 30 secs its pretty bad, so be prepared to switch on Long Exposure Noise Reduction in the menu, and allow the extra time for it to process each LE shot. The other thing with the RX10 and LE's is a filter system like the Lee one will give aweful vignetting at wide angle, the screw-in ND filters give much more manageable vignetting. Have fun! Joe
Thanks Joe - especially for the Long Exp advice - I am partially to long exps, so it will be interesting to see how that works out. Rarely above 30 secs though. I do have a Tiffen variable ND filter for the RX10 iv as well as a range of Lee Filters grad NDs and a Big Stopper. It's going to be fun trying it all out. I plan to use an external remote system for long exposures and as an intervalometer. Don't suppose you know a good intervalometer to use with the RX10 iv?
I use the Formatt-Hitech Firecrest screw-in filters (Polariser, ND4 ND8 ND16) with a magnetic mount system, easy peasy putting them on and taking them off for recomposing etc. I found Firecrest to be much better than Lee. I use the stock cheapo Ebay intervalometer on my A7R, havent ever tried it on the RX10 but no reason it wont work fine, the Sony release is expensive and does almost nothing. Very tempted myself to switch out my A7R for the RX10 3 or 4, but I have found the A7R paired with the Sony 24-240 is almost like a bridge camera on steroids, so I just carry the one camera and lens for everything. If you dont get on with the RX10 (but I am sure you will!) a great alternative is using that Sony full frame 24-240 lens on an A7x, doesnt weight much more in total than the latest RX10, and does everything full-frame, I do 8 minute exposures with no sensor noise.
Am very interested to see your journey switching to the RX range, you will miss some stuff I am sure, but the small size, low weight and having everything with you every time you shoot does make an enormous difference.
I find it difficult to compare the D800 with these little cameras. I think you are making a big mistake but only you can know that. I would like to hear your thoughts after a few months of use and a follow up video. All the best Nigel!
Thanks for contributing to the conversation. So far, I'm loving the new gear. The only thing I am missing is being able to set up a deferred time for a series of shots on the D800's intervalometer. Being able to set a timer for astro shots to start at 1.00 am was luxury. My plug in intervalometer doesn't have the option of setting a start time. May have to invest in a better one. But, image-wise, very promising so far.
DSLR Life - Nigel Bailey Glad you are enjoying it. I would like to hear your thought on a follow up video after a few months of use. I guess I am one of those people who cannot be convinced yet to give up my dslr. Thomas Heaton did a similar video recently on the same matter and he was not really convinced either. Some of his arguments I believe in them too. Anyway, the most important thing is to enjoy your new gear and enjoy photography. All the best as always. 😀
Very interesting
Hello from Kyiv. Interesting video but I understand exactly what you are saying. I am a Sony shooter. I shoot fashion models and portraits in general but I do like street photography and wildlife in my resting time. I have the A9, A7 III with lenses and lighting equipment. For me in my work it is not so bad to carry the gear I need for a shoot on location. My work is different. But I also bought the RX10 MK4 as a walk about camera. Something I can keep next with me always. I am amazed and I continue to be amazed by this camera. Excellent for street photography, travel, wildlife and I even experimented on a photo shoot with a model. The results were great that the company which I shoot for wanted the shots from the RX10 MK4 to use as a part of the portfolio I was hired to shoot. One thing I will say is to use this camera a lot to learn how to work around situations. When you are used to everything about this camera you can really push it to get the professional results. It is a hard to describe camera. It is not full frame and has one card slot. It is a bridge camera and a lot of pros give it a bad write up but I do not think they even tried to use it. It performs and performs very well. It is not a pro camera but at the same time it is not a beginners camera. Some people say it is a point and shoot bridge camera but it has so many pro features that it would be hard to see a family man getting the full use from this on a holiday with his family. I bought it as a carry it everywhere with me camera when I do not want my gear with me and I will say I get more shots with this than my pro gear because I do not need to change lenses and so on. I bought a Cokin grad filter set and a Tiffen variable ND filter for this camera. So far excellent. By the way you will need some batteries for it. I bought these from here www.duracelldirect.co.uk/digital-camera/sony/oem-pno/np-fw50.html#tab-content_1_VP-JQ333Y. I bought a dual charger from eBay made by Powerextra which is small and very compact. You can buy 4 batteries and the dual charger for just a little more than one Sony OEM battery. You will be very happy with your choices and I do recommend this camera as the only one of its kind in the world at this time. Regards
Hi - thanks for such a comprehensive comment. As I get to know the RX10 iv I find myself more and more impressed with it. Thanks for the accessory tips. I bought a good supply of batteries and a dual charger and have a good range of Lee Filters already; I did, however, add a Tiffen variable ND to my kit.
That's very interesting as i'm thinking of getting the RX10 iv and the perspective of a professional photographer is valuable to me in helping to make the decision.I've been flip flopping between buying/not buying but the 24-600mm option on such a relatively lightweight camera is very tempting ! Thanks for your input.
I did exactly the same thing Nigel about six months ago and I love Nikon gear and wont say a bad word about the D800/810, apart from the weight that is. Unfortunately I didn't get on with Sony gear as personally I found they were not for me. After a few trips aIaway I switched to a fuji X-T2 and fujinon XF lenses, I now love using the fuji gear. As long as you don't want to pixel peep you can achieve great things without the need for a full frame sensor (i know that's against the current popular trend to think so). Hope it works out for you!
Steve Millington thanks for contributing Steve. I confess that I have some reservations about the 1” Sony sensors - especially for astro and low-light event photography use; I’m coming to the view that they are not going to cut it for that. That said, video quality is streets better, and the form factor works well for my current purposes. I shall post updates as my longer term use begins to result in some meaningful conclusions.
@@NigelBaileyPhotography consider trying a star tracking tripod head to overcome for astrophotography, I can get a 4 min exposure at iso200 without star elongation and noise with my small sensor at 16mm, great for the Milkyway. :)
Thanks for that - certainly worth considering. what tracking head do you use? Of course, that works for one-off stills, but not so much for Timelapse I guess.
Oops! Used my personal channel for that last reply :-/
@@NigelBaileyPhotography I went for the Skywatcher star-adventurer pro but ioptron skytracker pro is just as good, and much smaller. Amazing difference having the night sky at ISO200 instead of 2500+ But yes counter productive for star trails. With my aps-c I now get much better milky way images than I could ever do with my D810, the point being there are ways and means when moving from FX baxk to DX! Keep the great videos coming! :)
Your back will thank you in time! Think of scrambling up a steep slope with a DLSR. Your more flexible being light. Looking forward to seeing how you get on. A waterproof bag might be worth it. The gimbal might not like rain either!
Indeed - durability of all the new kit will be an option. I have copious waterproof bags to keep things weatherproof. The bigger risk is going to be simple breakages through dropping and stuff getting blown over. My old Nikon stuff was bust but still succumbed to physical and weather damage on occasion. Last year I had a big(ish) insurance claim from a busted Nikon D800 and iPhone 6 Plus due to pretty extreme weather conditions on Mam Tor. I learned some important lessons that day...
Nigel I did the same thing. I have a Sony RX 10 iv and Sony RX 100 V. I sold all my Nikon gear and bought a Sony RX 10 iv. I had the Sony RX 100 V while I still had my Nikon gear. I was using the Sony rx 100 v and not using my using my Nikon Gear.
Carrying my Nikon gear caused my back to hurt. I am much happier with the lighter load. The Sony cameras take good pictures and do what I need them to do.
I am thinking about trading in my Sony RX 100 V for a Sony RX 100 VI. The Sony RX 100 VI looks like the ultimate travel camera. I would still keep the RX 10 for wildlife and Zoo photography.
Big Al thanks for contributing - the RX10 and RX100 combination certainly cover a lot of bases.
I'm with you on all of this I'm enroute to a photography seminar in North Carolina and I'm taking my D300 with an 80-200 f.28, plus Sigma 150-600. I'm also taking a couple mirrorless Samsungs (NX1 and NX30) with a full array of lenses. Add the accessory gear, flash, tripod, monopod, etc. and I end up with way more gear than I really want to be bothered with. All the Nikon stuff is going after I up-downgrade to the RX10 IV. I'm keeping the Samsungs. The NX1 is a first rate "C" sensor camera, and the NX30 has been converted for near infrared. The lenses are mostly small and lightweight. Naysayers be damned, I'm ready for lightweight and easy to travel with gear.
Hi Nigel. I use the D810 and find it a great camera but as you say, with all the gear it becomes really cumbersome to want to take out..
Very nice camera the D810. I suspect you have some nice ness to go with it too. Thanks for watching.
DSLR Life - Nigel Bailey - I mainly use the 16-35mm for my Seascapes.
Yep - had one of those - nice f/4.0 - I bought one to try it for wide angle astro work but it really just wasn't fast enough for that. Then kept leaving it behind in favour of the 24-70mm f/2.8 :-(
DSLR Life - Nigel Bailey - yes, I went out to Butser Hill just up the road from me last week to attempt a Milky Way shot. It was ok but would have preferred something faster.
Got to say as a longtime Nikon man like yourself - and I can’t bring myself to sell the Nikon yet! - I just love the Fuji - convenience, features eg auto focus stacking etc - quality of images despite reduced pixel count... I’m a convert!
Just curious as to whether you looked at the Panasonic equivalents and what attracted you to the Sony models given their price premium? There's no doubting their capability and I'm thinking of going for an RX10iv myself, and I'm currently using a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000 that I've never really gelled with (having come from a Nikon D90 plus lenses for similar reasons to you). Interested to hear your thoughts, and I hope you're getting on well with the gear changes!
Hi, and thanks for your question. There isn't really a short answer to that. Although the RX10iv and the FZ2500 appear superficially very similar, the Sony out-scores on so many features, especially in focussing, in frames-per-second, high frame rate video, video formats... perhaps the best I can do is link you to a video that sums a lot of this top pretty well that you can find here: ruclips.net/video/8PzHqrl73uM/видео.html&frags=pl%2Cwn
I have a new video going live at 4 pm today, and I hope you'll agree, if you watch it, that the Sony gives some pretty impressive results. I'm sure that the Panasonic can too - the real power of the camera lies in the hands of the user.
Hi, thanks for the reply and the link to the comparison video. I really like the Sony, it's just the price differential that I can't quite get over but there is no question that it's the best camera of its type. Having used it for a while now, do you find it serves your needs well given the kit you had before (I note that you've now got a D700 for the low light / astro stuff). What about IQ compared to what you've been used to with the Nikons? I've never found the IQ from the FZ1000 to be particularly pleasing having come from a Nikon D90, and I'm worried about being disappointed even with the Sony. Many people have made similar changes to you, and so perhaps my worries are unfounded (and I should stop pixel peeping!). Did you try out the Panasonics before purchasing? I do bow to the expertise of those like yourself who've had top end equipment and made the switch to this camera, and perhaps I should stop over thinking about this! There are so many options out there now, it's very difficult to know what to do for the best! Thanks again.
@@NigelBaileyPhotography I look forward to seeing this video later. I think your videos are great, and really bring home the relaxing and rewarding aspects of photography!
I will forward a self addressed box:-0)
All the best.
Use it up, Wear it out, Make it due, Do without.
soon you will get tired of 1 inch sensor quality and switch to something larger again!
a much better choice if you into sony path is a6500 and 2 lens, one zoom and one prime
or if you want more lightweight, Olympus M4/3 system!
You may well be right there. I'm going to give it a go for a while and see how it works out.
*Sony Alpha* = Apple iPod
*Nikon Z* = Microsoft Zune
God I hate mirrorless cameras they are not tough like dslr, having to clean sensor more often due to dust is very annoying. Guess I will stick to dslr. I'm currently saving to move from mirrorless to dslr. People nowadays don't have minds, they are so obsessed with gear. Canon was doing a perfect job, it is just these young generation photographers that really really suck. People who are complaining about video features, first of all, if you're into video work, buy a proper video camera/cinema camera, for business and if you are doing it just for RUclips or vlogging or any casual stuff, then you don't need any features like these, just record and upload. And on the other hand, in photography just buy a dslr like Nikon or Canon and just do your commercial work, I prefer dslr for photography over mirrorless because they can take more beating, and last longer than mirrorless cameras and photos from dslr feels organic, dslr do not have that digital and too sharp look that mobile phones and mirrorless cameras have. And if you are not doing business stuff then your smartphone camera is the way to go. These youtubers know nothing about cameras, they just make you overthink about gear and then you're not even doing any creative work, just gear, gear and gear. Just be confident on what gear you have and make money from it and enjoy and travel more :) forget about everything else. I'm now getting rid of my mirrorless gear and saving up for 5D Mark IV with Canon 35mm f1.4l ii, Canon 70-200mm f2.8l iii, Sigma 20mm f1.4 ART, Canon 100mm f2.8l Macro for photography but for now I create with what I have.
Bilal Ahmed guess I must have hit a nerve there 😉
Durability may we’ll end up being an issue - time will tell. Keeping all the DSLR gear AND buying a video camera and then lugging the whole lot up a mountain is just not realistic for me - so I’m going to give it a go. I’m not worried about whether it has a mirror or not - just the weight and accessibility. Will get zero dust on the sensors - neither new camera has interchangeable lenses. I think this will free me up to concentrate more on composition.
DSLR Life - Nigel Bailey didn't meant to offend anybody, anyway everyone has its own opinion. Do what you like. But even in the age I'm in I don't mind carrying heavy gear (to the top of the mountain or anywhere) for business purpose. The quality I'm getting is totally worth a little hassle. When battery is at the end, I can just turn off dslr and get everything ready and look for the composition of the shot without rushing because of OVF then turn the camera on and take the picture, then turn it off again for the next shot but EVF also come handy from my mirrorless cameras sometimes but it is just me. No offense!
Honestly, no offence taken - I enjoy the debate and see that both sides have a point. Thanks for contributing.
Hi Mike - I think things have moved on quite a bit since the A7R and the A6000. It's early days, but I'm pretty impressed so far. In an ideal world I would keep the DSLR, especially for low light events and astro work. But, as a full-time mature student I can't afford to double up on systems. I think I'm gaining in some areas and losing out in others, but overall the new kit is likely to better suit my current use. Over the coming weeks and months I shall try to give some honest feedback through the channel in the hope that it might help other people in a similar fix. Thanks for contributing. I do hope that you enjoy the Pentax system. Haven't had a Pentax since the early 80s.
Lol some people are like dinosaurs... Never had an issue with my cameras but I dont use them as hockey pucks. Time to evolve, grandpa