Thanks for sharing! I have a quick question if you don’t mind. How about the Yang style’s 野马分鬃? Because it is a left bow stance with a 分 action focus on the left arm, will it be 顺步 or 拗步?
It seems that the body angle with shunbu is just a Yang stylistic preference. Wu Jianquan taiji contain several forms ("Slap face palm", "Turn and slap face") done with shunbu and body turned straight forward.
Technically, Liang Dehua is correct. What you are describing is when your hips are VERY flexible and the angle is made up by your hips and not your feet. That's what is descirbe at 5:09. If your hips are not flexible, you will feel uncomfortable, however if you are knowing what you are doing and doing it on purpose as an exercise to stretch the hips it should be ok, that's the way I am training too because with a sedentary life, it is very very very difficult to train the hips, that's why many people doing "ao bu" are doing it wrong because the hips are still too tense and they are "propulsing" with their rear leg instead of relaxing. Without the flexibility of hips, it is also very difficult to feel the energy of the lower dantian.
@@QuentinKLEau Thank you for sharing your opinion. Mr. Liang Dehua described the important moments very clearly and in details. Your statement regarding hips flexbility - sure, I fully support. 1 hour jibengong, and gongfu is too weak vs 8 hours of sitting "gongfu" )) My message is not at all about incorrectness. For me the details with aobu and shunbu is an interesting issue... But I see that the differences are caused mainly by stylistic differences. (bad connotation... "stylistic" in the meaning of methods, not esthetics.) The key point is feet positioning. In Taiji Zheng Manqin, Huang Shenshyang version, the back foot is turned more inside even with shunbu, and in taiji Wu Jianquan, the foot pointed almost forward... Hence the body position is often (not always) the same (straight forward) with aobu and shunbu.
@@vitalyromas6752 Here I will say something controversial. If your hips are not opened enough and you force yourself to do all techniques with aobu, your are looking for knee troubles. It's not because the master is doing it that way that you have to imitate. This is not about style but common sense.
@@vitalyromas6752 Maybe I did not completely understand your "stylistic" meaning. What I want to say is that the form in not really that important, but the principles you are working inside. Provided your form follows the principles, they all could be considered correct. However depending on your understanding of the principles, your fighting/training experience and physical abilities, the form will follow. In the Yang style for example if you are training a lot of "up/down" without much lateral movement and a smaller frame, you won't need much change in the positioning of the feet as it is less strenuous on the knees. However if you are doing a lot of powerful projection with a wider frame, there is a high chance that you will have to turn more your feet. As a side note elaborating on my previous post, the master of my master was a construction worker who had a right shoulder injury, therefore when doing the form he tended to raise his right shoulder, and many students were just imitating this shoulder rise.
Again, Sifu Liang is discussing and showing things that most Taiji teachers know little of. This is really insightful!
I had not realised the difference in body direction between the two stances. This makes so much sense. Thank you!
Excellent analysis and explanation! Thank you for sharing!👍👍👍👍👍
Amazing! Your teaching and video speaking confidence has increased a lot recently! 🙇
Excellent video. My focus these days is Qi flow and the quality of Qi flow. I would like to see videos about Qi flow for power.
Good insights that you explain very well. Thank you.
Thank you Sifu, great video!
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Always useful !
Great tips! Thanks a lot!
thank you for the study
Thanks for sharing! I have a quick question if you don’t mind. How about the Yang style’s 野马分鬃? Because it is a left bow stance with a 分 action focus on the left arm, will it be 顺步 or 拗步?
顺步
Thanks, Master Liang! 🙏
It seems that the body angle with shunbu is just a Yang stylistic preference. Wu Jianquan taiji contain several forms ("Slap face palm", "Turn and slap face") done with shunbu and body turned straight forward.
Technically, Liang Dehua is correct. What you are describing is when your hips are VERY flexible and the angle is made up by your hips and not your feet. That's what is descirbe at 5:09. If your hips are not flexible, you will feel uncomfortable, however if you are knowing what you are doing and doing it on purpose as an exercise to stretch the hips it should be ok, that's the way I am training too because with a sedentary life, it is very very very difficult to train the hips, that's why many people doing "ao bu" are doing it wrong because the hips are still too tense and they are "propulsing" with their rear leg instead of relaxing. Without the flexibility of hips, it is also very difficult to feel the energy of the lower dantian.
@@QuentinKLEau Thank you for sharing your opinion. Mr. Liang Dehua described the important moments very clearly and in details.
Your statement regarding hips flexbility - sure, I fully support. 1 hour jibengong, and gongfu is too weak vs 8 hours of sitting "gongfu" ))
My message is not at all about incorrectness. For me the details with aobu and shunbu is an interesting issue... But I see that the differences are caused mainly by stylistic differences. (bad connotation... "stylistic" in the meaning of methods, not esthetics.) The key point is feet positioning. In Taiji Zheng Manqin, Huang Shenshyang version, the back foot is turned more inside even with shunbu, and in taiji Wu Jianquan, the foot pointed almost forward... Hence the body position is often (not always) the same (straight forward) with aobu and shunbu.
@@vitalyromas6752 Here I will say something controversial. If your hips are not opened enough and you force yourself to do all techniques with aobu, your are looking for knee troubles. It's not because the master is doing it that way that you have to imitate. This is not about style but common sense.
@@QuentinKLEau This is related but is absolutely another issue.
@@vitalyromas6752 Maybe I did not completely understand your "stylistic" meaning. What I want to say is that the form in not really that important, but the principles you are working inside. Provided your form follows the principles, they all could be considered correct. However depending on your understanding of the principles, your fighting/training experience and physical abilities, the form will follow. In the Yang style for example if you are training a lot of "up/down" without much lateral movement and a smaller frame, you won't need much change in the positioning of the feet as it is less strenuous on the knees. However if you are doing a lot of powerful projection with a wider frame, there is a high chance that you will have to turn more your feet.
As a side note elaborating on my previous post, the master of my master was a construction worker who had a right shoulder injury, therefore when doing the form he tended to raise his right shoulder, and many students were just imitating this shoulder rise.
very good!
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