Proper Winter tires... The usual comment of: "We only have snow a couple of days per year" does not matter. Winter tires are better than Summer tires when temperatures go below +7 degrees celcius.
HotelGolf82 exactly most of November to March is not 'a couple of days' and it saves your summers tyres My BMW Z4 with winters runs circles around Chelsea tractors with summer tyres
***** my car is rwd so wouldn't be able to go anywhere in the snow with summers and I need it to get to work, I don't get paid if I'm off, so my winter tyres will pay for themselves
HotelGolf82 Winter tyres are better grip, but completely uneconomic and a uneccesary most the time. Even when it gets icey roads are normally gritted fine so you don't need them in UK. A less you need your car in bad weather its much more economic to take one day off every few years....
@@Dosedmonkey Absolutely agree. Why pay out for an extra set of tyres for a couple of days a year? And not even that some years. Like winter 2019-2020.
That's the best seat in the house during a snowstorm. Your own living room window with a hot cup of Joe enjoying the show, better than a NFL game. I live in New Mexico East of the Albuquerque area and I mounted BF Goodrich all season snow rated tires on my Ram pick up. Its overkill but if y'all in the UK can get em do it. You can go anywhere.
Winter tyres effectively cost nothing as you can only wear out one set of tyres at a time. A spare set of wheels really don't cost much compared with the cost of the car. They should be mandatory from November to March.
Azureecosse WINTER tyres are certainly NOT just for snow. They are significantly better on snow, slush, ice, mud, wet roads and indeed ANY time it is cold. They are much softer rubber and therefore work far better than summer tyres which are hard rubber. BUYING SENSE: If you buy winter tyres in the winter you must obviously expect to pay full price. If you buy them in the summer you should get about 30% discount - I did. I have a Mercedes E-Class and paid £108 per tyre for top class Nokian tyres; money well spent. I guarantee I could drive up the hill in the video with no problems whatsoever - AND stop coming DOWN the hill. Don't forget that braking and steering are just as important as traction - and 4 wheel drive doesn't help one iota with those.
Azureecosse A lot of people don't realise the HUGE benefit of soft rubber. If in doubt - ask a Formula 1 driver! As for 'need', many of us country-folk get up before dawn and drive many miles on un-salted roads. We 'need' the best tyres possible. Most town dwellers have NEVER experienced black ice and probably don't even know what it is. Snow: A car with narrow tyres cuts through snow and can get a reasonable grip - that is why the Fiesta (?) in the video did well. A car with wide tyres floats on a bed of compressed snow and may sit there helplessly. Stiff treads, such as on high speed rating tyres, low profile tyres and run-flat tyres make it even worse - which is why BMWs are often struggling the most.
Azureecosse Oh dear, one of those strange people who think they knows it all. Apparently you are here to lecture us - about your OPINIONS rather than facts. I suggest that you refrain from making silly assumptions young lady and confine yourself to facts. The FACTS are that winter tyres are safer in cold weather. THAT is what they are designed for. Their performance in snow is just one benefit out of many. IF you can think of any significant disadvantage to using winter tyres, in the winter, someone may be interested to hear your opinion.
Azureecosse i drive a landy, grew up in the countryside of wales - but i also get ridiculously excited when it snows! haha :D I just like going out and helping people
Pointer1: Get going from 2nd gear, hardly any gas. You don't want to break traction as that will polish off the snow under the tyre and turn it into ice. Ride the clutch on the verge of stalling. 2: If at all possible don't stop if going uphill. 3: Get as much weight as possible on the drive axle. Put your mother-in-law in the boot if it's a RWD and ask 2 folks to sit on your wheel arches if it's FWD (just to get going). 4: Get a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Evo and you don't need any help :))
omg that woman he said i cant stop now you will have to walk home and did that laugh! pmsl omg i chocked on my chocolate revels woman that was so funny. great video. xxx
The problem isn't the cars or the drivers... it's the tires. Get winter tires! You dont need studs in them, just normal studless winter tires. Here in Norway many use stud less, but also many use winter tires with studs in them. Thats because we often drive on ice, not snow.
+Rune Venes In the UK, we have only 2 or 3 days per year of snow. So buying winter tyres and having them changed just for a couple of days becomes pointless. But of course you're right.
+Tyler Durdon I'd rather have what we call "european winter tyre" (ex Nokian WRD, Conti TS, Michelin Alpine) all year around than do this shit 2-3 days every year. In scandinavia we normally use "nordic winter tyres", with much softer rubber and more sipes than the european. Or, get chaines...
Winter tires. No drama. Too cheap to buy winter tires? Then stay at home and leave the roads clear for those who are resposible enough to use the correct tire for the Winter season
+John19501000 The operative word? London. There is a whole big Britain OUTSIDE of London. Anyway the point thats lost on you is that its not a matter of not being able to drive without winter tyres. it can be done to some extent (unlike in this video) BUT with winter tyres, snowfall is a complete non event EXEPT for meeting people like you that block the road when they cant climb up a slight incline with compacted icy snow.
It is 2016 now and tire (tyre) retailers sell tires that are mid-way between 3-season and winter tires; softer than 3-season tires, but not as soft as pure winter tires. They are almost as good as winter tires, but in the summer they don't wear away so quickly like winter tires would, so they can be kept on the car all winter and all summer long, no changing of tires needed. These tires are called "ALL WEATHER" tires. I live in Ontario Canada, and here its suicide to drive in the winter without winter tires. Those 'All Weather' tires are just not good enough here.
Along with my post about Winter Tyres, they are not just for snow/ice but for all driving conditions when the temperatures are below +7oC ( which in the UK means going to work and coming home in the evening during the winter months are well below +7oC so will massively help ). Also a winter tyre doing 30mph will stop 11m shorter than a normal tyre doing 20mph at +7oC or below......which could mean the difference between life or death.....or at least an expensive insurance claim.
Well, same thing happens in Tokyo, too. We only have few snow days ( once or twice in a year) so once it start snowing like this people still drive cars with summer tires!! Lots of people are not aware of how stupid driving without snow tires!! IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SNOW TIRES, DO NOT DRIVE!!
+nightflyer1100 Snow in London (belive it or not) is actually very rare, not because the weather it's mild due to the Gulf stream and low pressures from N Atlantic, but also since it's a big city with too much heating elements under the ground which will melt snow even if it's below -5 Celsius. In other words people in London are far from used to drive in snow, so don't blame them!
Faronstream I blame them because they should be using winter or all season tires from mid November till mid March ish. The last time I went to Toyota Kingston, the rep tried to convince me I don't need winter tires since temperatures never go below 7 degrees Celsius in London. This was in October this year. I asked him if he realises that the previous day it was 2 degrees in 5:30 am when I started driving to work and he said he didn't know because he wakes up at 8 o'clock because he starts work at 9 in the morning. People are stupid, ignorant, stubborn and ill educated in London, this is why it's a disaster on the roads when it's icy, snowy or just cold. So many accidents due to summer tires becoming harder and increasing breaking distance when temperature is below 7 degrees... It's just ridiculous!
Hi Azureecosse, Cont.... driving in the Savoie part of the French Alps ( I accept there are vast differences between the Alps and the UK ) , but I would never drive in winter condition's in either without winter tyres just from the breaking under control ( stopping straight and not spinning the car on ice , snow etc ) and the reducing of breaking distances side of things.After all a winter tyre at 30mph will stop 11m shorter than a normal tyre at 20mph on ice,snow and wet roads below +7oC.Cont.
Not worth the buying winter tyres sue, the UK doesn't get these conditions very often like Canada does. The UK weather in winter is kept mostly mild due to the gulf stream moving over the Atlantic ocean.
UK is never ready for an inch of snow lol I remember when it snowed in 2009 and 2010 schools were all closed ambulance police fire trucks all stuck in the road
Can't say it often enough or loud enough " Winter Tyres ! " between mid Nov - end of March get some winter rubber....Continental Winter-Conti-Contact TS800 or TS830's tyres and on ALL four wheels. It still amazes me that people with silly low profile tyres just plant their right foot into the carpet and think they will get traction. I drive a 1.7dti Vauxhall Astra with winter tyres and never get stuck, 20 years in the Alps helps aswell. Merry Xmas and a Happy New year to all.
This is why I've put specifically all-season tyres on my car (OK in summer, very good in spring and autumn, still OK in winter rather than completely useless...), and have winterised my commuter bike... I can still filter between the traffic at 15mph using my feet as skids when everyone else is crawling at walking pace :)
Ha ha...its nice to see the jags bmw and mercs struggling in the snow...rear wheel vehicles are no good in snow... In my experience I use the snow as a grip like driving more to the side or middle of the road ...where the numpties havent polished to ice .
They are all going far too fast.They should go as slow as possible.Flooring it destroys the tyres & on front wheelers the steering also creates a noise nuisance & excessive pollution & toxic emissions caused by the excessive stress of spinning which can cause serious damage to vehicles & in extreme cases could blow the tyres & cause a fire through overheating.
With your interesting use of the word WERE I wonder why on Earth you feel qualified to criticise other people's spelling. Presumably you meant WE ARE or WE'RE if you really must use a contraction.
Nevalti Sorry Brian., That was aimed at 'Cats' not you but I messed up too. I was just trying to point out to the idiot 'Cats' that we all make spelling mistakes.
A lot of cars will stall starting in 2nd mine hates moving off in 2nd. dont forget the Subaru legacy (Outback), they have one of the best 4wd systems for low frictions surfaces.
Last night it started snowing over here and kept throughout most of the day. The roads became exactly like this and no1 is clearing them, but all of a sudden A LOT and i mean A LOT of old Audis and Subarus appeared out of nowhere (it's like there's an Audi-Subaru meeting in town with something like 80% of the traffic consiting of them). I guess people finally realised that for winter the thing you need most is AWD :)
The bad thing is that us Southerners normally employ a few northerners to do the pushing but I guess the snow stopped the work train trailer from arriving here !
I somewhat agree, considering this happens all happened for a very long time you'd basically be outside all day, and honestly they deserve it, if you decide to head out during the winter without proper tiers you deserve to be stuck. You're putting everyone in danger including yourself without a winter prepared car. This would be no problem in Finland since we have proper tiers, we deal with similar conditions all through the winter.
Probably most of these car drivers had their ESP turned on which is not helpful on snow/ice and they probably have automatic shifter which they didn't put in manual mode and start off with 2nd gear.
Winter tyres aren't just for snowy conditions.. they're for when the temperature on the road is below freezing and up to 10C. Because summer tyres harden in cold conditions so they can't form a connection to the road properly.. hence whey they slip etc. winter tyres are made of a softer compound that flexes and the tread bonds better to the road surface. So winter tyres should be used between Nov - March. when the temperature is likely to be below 10 C.
1:16 - "I can't stop now, you're just gonna have to walk home!" Ha ha ha ha! I wonder if she had to take a long walk before the car got any traction back! 1:52 - that Golf must have badly worn tires. I drove mine in an inch of snow and ice and it handled just fine in the nasty weather. I live in Texas, US but it can get pretty cold down here too. They even closed schools in several cities because of the snow.
It's not for just "one week a year" winter tyres are when the temperature is below zero and 10 C.. because summer tyres (regular tyres) work better when the temp is above 10 C and the roads are dry. Typically the temperatures between Nov & March are between below 0 C - 10 C. Are when winter tyres should be used. because cold weather hardens the rubber on summer tyres, hence less grip as the tyre is unable to form a good grip and bond to the road surface.
The awd vehicles did fine. It was the front and rear wheel drives that struggled the most obviously. I cant stress this enough if you drive fwd or rwd. Get a good set of winter tires, its an investment that's well worth it for your safety and for others on the road.
snow tires ? salt ? snow plow ? you don't have ? in switzerland, if it snows the snow hunts put salt on the road, and if we have an accident because of the snow and that have not had snow tires the insured not cover us
Oi, Lahndahn, may I suggest two lengths of rope in the boot? Tie them to a wheel spoke, then weave them over the tyre and back through the spokes until the tyre has a grippy rope tread. Move forward a bit to get the rest of the tyre and you will have enough grip to get you up most hills. Pretty sure there is a you tube video to show you how! Me? I have snow tyres, but then I live in the Highlands of Scotland so I expect cold weather. Dahn't be a muppet, get it sorted ;-p (in your best London geezer Micky Flanagan accent, which I love) Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
I recently got stuck in my octavia VRS what sad'dns me is people just walked strigjt by ignoring my struggle. If it was me i would have deff helped with a push. This is why we struggle in snow 0 comnunity spirit :(
Oh dear. The usual winter chaos. All about knowing HOW to drive and react in adverse weather conditions. Most people select the wrong gear, rev the guts out of the motor and are clueless. As for automatic transmission in snow.......chocolate and fireguard spring to mind.........best advice......if you cannot drive in snow......stay at home. Then again, our local authorities cannot deal with winter weather either......double - edged sword here.
The police should have closed the road to uphill traffic as the down hill traffic was behaving in a sensible way & while it was closed could have shovelled the uphill side & called for the plough & gritter to make it safe then repeat the process for the downhill side as all the dangerous antisocial behavior was on the uphill side as is always the case why do the behave correctly when going down hill but behave like idiots when going uphill? it does not make sense.as going uphill is more dangerous & damaging for vehicles flooring it constitutes dangerous driving & this should be made a specific offence as not only is it highly dangerous & damaging for the vehicle it also causes a dreadful noise nuisance which is distressing & painful to listen to which sounds like a cat in distress as this idiotic behavior is totally unnesscary as why should residents in this street have to put up with this dreadful racket? in my view NO ONE should be allowed to drive on the roads until they have been cleared & made safe .
Hi Azureecosse, One thing I would like to see introduced is during the driving lessons people take before their driving test , a few lessons on a skid pan should be made a requirement to teach people the appropriate method's of driving under slippy and hard to control conditions, as many whom are just passing their tests presently will have never had any experience of driving in winter weather...just a thought. Happy New Year to all :)
Cheapest solution would be to put gravel and salt on the road and clear it from the snow. Winter tires would be smart but if it snows very rarely, it doesn't make much sense for everyone to buy winter tires.
old style fiat panda 4x4 has to be the best ever snow car.. really i have passed land rovers and other larger 4x4s with ease. i can honestly say that i have never been stuck in deep snow on a road in my awesome panda 4x4 :D
It doesn't say what part of London this is, but van drivers aside, surely a lot of the drivers in this video could use the tube or walk when it's like this?
ha yeah, that's actually what one of my friends said to me "i don't need snow tires as i'm a great driver"! it's me that has the last laugh as i drive past on a snow covered hill and don't stop to help them
Yeah, i dont know about the laws in UK, they might be illegal there. Same thing with the crushed stone, you throw them in front of the tire to get you moving. the best kind of sand for that use is something like 5-10mm in diameter per grain, it bites nicely to the ice when you drive over it
I live in montreal, and had a toyota cressida along with a gmc safari, both rwd cars, they did just fine with all season tires in winter and even better with winter tires. rwd cars require a little bit of skill driving in snowy areas. tended to get a lot of fishtailing action, but overall only time i really had trouble was when the big storms came down 20+. But i understand why many have trouble there, unlike us where we get instant cleaning due to the commonality of the storms. Cheers everyone
Hi Azureecosse, Up to a point I agree , but in the UK for 3 - 4 months of the year the average daily temperature for going to work and coming home is below +7oC , and as winter tyres are for rain , ice , slush , frost as well as ice and snow they are a safer option than normal tyres. I agree also about yout technique comment, a lot of things are 80% technique and 20% equipment, but if you have the wrong equipment all the technique in the world wont help, I've spent the last 20 yrs driving cont.
how londerners cope with snow.well they don't cope.they mearly struggle.lol hope we get some this year just one big snow event in the new year would do.
"trying to push the 2 ton car"... it doesn't work like that... it didn't matter if it's 1, 2 or 3 tons... one person can help... it just needs a tiny little bit of momentum to get moving once the tyres get grip.
I have winter tyres on my car in the UK and they're brilliant. Doesn't help however when you're stuck behind people without them who can't move
Rubbish and ya know it......
@@bcbeadsworth your name or your comment?
Or imbeciles trying to drive in low gear! Or too slow up hills!
It seems that all these accidents could be avoided if people just read some you tube comments before heading out.
Proper Winter tires... The usual comment of: "We only have snow a couple of days per year" does not matter. Winter tires are better than Summer tires when temperatures go below +7 degrees celcius.
HotelGolf82 exactly most of November to March is not 'a couple of days' and it saves your summers tyres
My BMW Z4 with winters runs circles around Chelsea tractors with summer tyres
***** my car is rwd so wouldn't be able to go anywhere in the snow with summers and I need it to get to work, I don't get paid if I'm off, so my winter tyres will pay for themselves
HotelGolf82 Winter tyres are better grip, but completely uneconomic and a uneccesary most the time. Even when it gets icey roads are normally gritted fine so you don't need them in UK. A less you need your car in bad weather its much more economic to take one day off every few years....
@@Dosedmonkey Absolutely agree. Why pay out for an extra set of tyres for a couple of days a year? And not even that some years. Like winter 2019-2020.
That's the best seat in the house during a snowstorm. Your own living room window with a hot cup of Joe enjoying the show, better than a NFL game. I live in New Mexico East of the Albuquerque area and I mounted BF Goodrich all season snow rated tires on my Ram pick up. Its overkill but if y'all in the UK can get em do it. You can go anywhere.
I have a volvo 240 estate. rwd, couple of paving slabs in the back and winter tyres it does just fine in snow.
Funny thing is, is that's nothing for New England lol. That won't even get us a delay at school
Winter tyres effectively cost nothing as you can only wear out one set of tyres at a time. A spare set of wheels really don't cost much compared with the cost of the car. They should be mandatory from November to March.
yep totally agree. I got them for that winter 2010/2011 and was so glad I did. I'll never be without them now.
Azureecosse WINTER tyres are certainly NOT just for snow. They are significantly better on snow, slush, ice, mud, wet roads and indeed ANY time it is cold. They are much softer rubber and therefore work far better than summer tyres which are hard rubber.
BUYING SENSE: If you buy winter tyres in the winter you must obviously expect to pay full price. If you buy them in the summer you should get about 30% discount - I did. I have a Mercedes E-Class and paid £108 per tyre for top class Nokian tyres; money well spent. I guarantee I could drive up the hill in the video with no problems whatsoever - AND stop coming DOWN the hill. Don't forget that braking and steering are just as important as traction - and 4 wheel drive doesn't help one iota with those.
Azureecosse A lot of people don't realise the HUGE benefit of soft rubber. If in doubt - ask a Formula 1 driver!
As for 'need', many of us country-folk get up before dawn and drive many miles on un-salted roads. We 'need' the best tyres possible. Most town dwellers have NEVER experienced black ice and probably don't even know what it is.
Snow: A car with narrow tyres cuts through snow and can get a reasonable grip - that is why the Fiesta (?) in the video did well. A car with wide tyres floats on a bed of compressed snow and may sit there helplessly. Stiff treads, such as on high speed rating tyres, low profile tyres and run-flat tyres make it even worse - which is why BMWs are often struggling the most.
Azureecosse Oh dear, one of those strange people who think they knows it all. Apparently you are here to lecture us - about your OPINIONS rather than facts.
I suggest that you refrain from making silly assumptions young lady and confine yourself to facts. The FACTS are that winter tyres are safer in cold weather. THAT is what they are designed for. Their performance in snow is just one benefit out of many.
IF you can think of any significant disadvantage to using winter tyres, in the winter, someone may be interested to hear your opinion.
Azureecosse i drive a landy, grew up in the countryside of wales - but i also get ridiculously excited when it snows! haha :D I just like going out and helping people
Pointer1: Get going from 2nd gear, hardly any gas. You don't want to break traction as that will polish off the snow under the tyre and turn it into ice. Ride the clutch on the verge of stalling.
2: If at all possible don't stop if going uphill.
3: Get as much weight as possible on the drive axle. Put your mother-in-law in the boot if it's a RWD and ask 2 folks to sit on your wheel arches if it's FWD (just to get going).
4: Get a Subaru Impreza or Mitsubishi Evo and you don't need any help :))
Great 'Director's commentary'-laughed as much at you lot as the drivers-thanks.
omg that woman he said i cant stop now you will have to walk home and did that laugh! pmsl omg i chocked on my chocolate revels woman that was so funny. great video. xxx
The problem isn't the cars or the drivers... it's the tires. Get winter tires! You dont need studs in them, just normal studless winter tires. Here in Norway many use stud less, but also many use winter tires with studs in them. Thats because we often drive on ice, not snow.
+Rune Venes In the UK, we have only 2 or 3 days per year of snow. So buying winter tyres and having them changed just for a couple of days becomes pointless. But of course you're right.
+Tyler Durdon they work better in cold wet conditions under 7 degrees so well worth buying and I keep them on for six months of the year.
it's a cheap life insurance
+Tyler Durdon I'd rather have what we call "european winter tyre" (ex Nokian WRD, Conti TS, Michelin Alpine) all year around than do this shit 2-3 days every year. In scandinavia we normally use "nordic winter tyres", with much softer rubber and more sipes than the european.
Or, get chaines...
+Rune Venes
"Get winter tires!"
- I have winter tyres. Vredestein Wintracs I think.
Winter tires are designed to work specifically in snow or ice or both (depending of the thread type). And when there's snow or ice, it's cold.
I would get the hose out and spray the road for the next days layer of ice
Winter tires. No drama. Too cheap to buy winter tires? Then stay at home and leave the roads clear for those who are resposible enough to use the correct tire for the Winter season
enough said lol
We get like one day of snow a year. No point in buying them!
No point in buying them ? Sure. Then please stay indoors, off work, and not clog the roads when it DOES snow. Ok?
+John19501000 The operative word? London. There is a whole big Britain OUTSIDE of London. Anyway the point thats lost on you is that its not a matter of not being able to drive without winter tyres. it can be done to some extent (unlike in this video) BUT with winter tyres, snowfall is a complete non event EXEPT for meeting people like you that block the road when they cant climb up a slight incline with compacted icy snow.
I agree.
It is 2016 now and tire (tyre) retailers sell tires that are mid-way between 3-season and winter tires; softer than 3-season tires, but not as soft as pure winter tires. They are almost as good as winter tires, but in the summer they don't wear away so quickly like winter tires would, so they can be kept on the car all winter and all summer long, no changing of tires needed. These tires are called "ALL WEATHER" tires. I live in Ontario Canada, and here its suicide to drive in the winter without winter tires. Those 'All Weather' tires are just not good enough here.
Don't they sell winter tyres in London? Lol
People have forgotten about a wonderful invention from the 1920's.
Snow chains!
I honestly hope we get this bad snow again this year.
Robbie Sharp well we just did..
COME ON NEN.... Lets ave ya snow. Come and get me... i got snow socks this year. lets ave it. LOL
I love it! Superb video, especially the chat between the two people behind the camera.
Along with my post about Winter Tyres, they are not just for snow/ice but for all driving conditions when the temperatures are below +7oC ( which in the UK means going to work and coming home in the evening during the winter months are well below +7oC so will massively help ).
Also a winter tyre doing 30mph will stop 11m shorter than a normal tyre doing 20mph at +7oC or below......which could mean the difference between life or death.....or at least an expensive insurance claim.
Thanks for the clarification. I'll get some in a few months.
Well, same thing happens in Tokyo, too. We only have few snow days ( once or twice in a year) so once it start snowing like this people still drive cars with summer tires!! Lots of people are not aware of how stupid driving without snow tires!! IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SNOW TIRES, DO NOT DRIVE!!
+nightflyer1100 Snow in London (belive it or not) is actually very rare, not because the weather it's mild due to the Gulf stream and low pressures from N Atlantic, but also since it's a big city with too much heating elements under the ground which will melt snow even if it's below -5 Celsius.
In other words people in London are far from used to drive in snow, so don't blame them!
Faronstream
I blame them because they should be using winter or all season tires from mid November till mid March ish. The last time I went to Toyota Kingston, the rep tried to convince me I don't need winter tires since temperatures never go below 7 degrees Celsius in London. This was in October this year. I asked him if he realises that the previous day it was 2 degrees in 5:30 am when I started driving to work and he said he didn't know because he wakes up at 8 o'clock because he starts work at 9 in the morning. People are stupid, ignorant, stubborn and ill educated in London, this is why it's a disaster on the roads when it's icy, snowy or just cold. So many accidents due to summer tires becoming harder and increasing breaking distance when temperature is below 7 degrees... It's just ridiculous!
regardless if they use summer tires, winter tires or all season tires, it's clear that they all drive on bald tires with little to not thread.
Hi Azureecosse,
Cont.... driving in the Savoie part of the French Alps ( I accept there are vast differences between the Alps and the UK ) , but I would never drive in winter condition's in either without winter tyres just from the breaking under control ( stopping straight and not spinning the car on ice , snow etc ) and the reducing of breaking distances side of things.After all a winter tyre at 30mph will stop 11m shorter than a normal tyre at 20mph on ice,snow and wet roads below +7oC.Cont.
they need some Canadians to show them how to do it! LOL! But do they use winter tires there?? I don't know how often or much it snows over there.
Not worth the buying winter tyres sue, the UK doesn't get these conditions very often like Canada does. The UK weather in winter is kept mostly mild due to the gulf stream moving over the Atlantic ocean.
It's embarrassing when other countries can manage to drive in snow and we can't! HA HA!
***** Fuck off son.
Respect is earned, not given.
British snow is slicker than anyone else's.
+Noddy Mac, actually even countries like Canada have problems driving in the snow, especially start of the season.
Winter tires. I mean, really. At the first sign of snow, GET THEM! Out.
UK is never ready for an inch of snow lol I remember when it snowed in 2009 and 2010 schools were all closed ambulance police fire trucks all stuck in the road
Its not the cars, Its the tyres, if you have good tyres or winter tyres you will grip.
flat mint , its pointless buying winter tyres in the UK if it snows once or twice a year. Some winters it never snows at all.
relentless5321 yes it is. But at least have goos tyres in winter
flat mint , i was about get winter tyres installed just before it snowed.
Can't say it often enough or loud enough " Winter Tyres ! " between mid Nov - end of March get some winter rubber....Continental Winter-Conti-Contact TS800 or TS830's tyres and on ALL four wheels.
It still amazes me that people with silly low profile tyres just plant their right foot into the carpet and think they will get traction. I drive a 1.7dti Vauxhall Astra with winter tyres and never get stuck, 20 years in the Alps helps aswell.
Merry Xmas and a Happy New year to all.
This is why I've put specifically all-season tyres on my car (OK in summer, very good in spring and autumn, still OK in winter rather than completely useless...), and have winterised my commuter bike... I can still filter between the traffic at 15mph using my feet as skids when everyone else is crawling at walking pace :)
James Madden at Exacta Weather has predicted we are going to get this again in December.
Vids like this make me glad I have a Land Rover
@SPEAKTRUTHALWAYS
Tyre chains are illegal here? I didn't know that. Why were they made illegal?
your phone ringtone is BEAST!!!
I can remember that year 2010! :) It was sooo deep near London!
Ha ha...its nice to see the jags bmw and mercs struggling in the snow...rear wheel vehicles are no good in snow...
In my experience I use the snow as a grip like driving more to the side or middle of the road ...where the numpties havent polished to ice .
Is this alexandra road near mill hill?? Hahaha i lived there before
I live in uk a place called Devon and where I live is in a valley and it never snows but once it was 2 foot deep that was 30 years ago lol
It seems that there are no awd cars in London
I live in Tennessee, and I have to wonder if they ever thought about using SNOW CHAINS???
they don't need ... snow tires , salt , etc . they need brain
They are all going far too fast.They should go as slow as possible.Flooring it destroys the tyres & on front wheelers the steering also creates a noise nuisance & excessive pollution & toxic emissions caused by the excessive stress of spinning which can cause serious damage to vehicles & in extreme cases could blow the tyres & cause a fire through overheating.
Andrew Smith over heating while driving in - c ? Lol nice driving experience
Welcome to BRITAIN mate were taxed so heavily. WE cant afford fuckall
With your interesting use of the word WERE I wonder why on Earth you feel qualified to criticise other people's spelling. Presumably you meant WE ARE or WE'RE if you really must use a contraction.
Nevalti Sorry Brian., That was aimed at 'Cats' not you but I messed up too. I was just trying to point out to the idiot 'Cats' that we all make spelling mistakes.
Very true.
A lot of cars will stall starting in 2nd mine hates moving off in 2nd. dont forget the Subaru legacy (Outback), they have one of the best 4wd systems for low frictions surfaces.
Last night it started snowing over here and kept throughout most of the day. The roads became exactly like this and no1 is clearing them, but all of a sudden A LOT and i mean A LOT of old Audis and Subarus appeared out of nowhere (it's like there's an Audi-Subaru meeting in town with something like 80% of the traffic consiting of them). I guess people finally realised that for winter the thing you need most is AWD :)
The bad thing is that us Southerners normally employ a few northerners to do the pushing but I guess the snow stopped the work train trailer from arriving here !
I somewhat agree, considering this happens all happened for a very long time you'd basically be outside all day, and honestly they deserve it, if you decide to head out during the winter without proper tiers you deserve to be stuck. You're putting everyone in danger including yourself without a winter prepared car.
This would be no problem in Finland since we have proper tiers, we deal with similar conditions all through the winter.
Probably most of these car drivers had their ESP turned on which is not helpful on snow/ice and they probably have automatic shifter which they didn't put in manual mode and start off with 2nd gear.
Winter tyres aren't just for snowy conditions.. they're for when the temperature on the road is below freezing and up to 10C. Because summer tyres harden in cold conditions so they can't form a connection to the road properly.. hence whey they slip etc. winter tyres are made of a softer compound that flexes and the tread bonds better to the road surface. So winter tyres should be used between Nov - March. when the temperature is likely to be below 10 C.
@Vijurkas subaru and winter tyres, 10" didn't stop it!
1:16 - "I can't stop now, you're just gonna have to walk home!" Ha ha ha ha! I wonder if she had to take a long walk before the car got any traction back!
1:52 - that Golf must have badly worn tires. I drove mine in an inch of snow and ice and it handled just fine in the nasty weather. I live in Texas, US but it can get pretty cold down here too. They even closed schools in several cities because of the snow.
Do they have 4-wheel drive in England?
No room even in the police budget for winter tyres?
It's not for just "one week a year" winter tyres are when the temperature is below zero and 10 C.. because summer tyres (regular tyres) work better when the temp is above 10 C and the roads are dry. Typically the temperatures between Nov & March are between below 0 C - 10 C. Are when winter tyres should be used. because cold weather hardens the rubber on summer tyres, hence less grip as the tyre is unable to form a good grip and bond to the road surface.
I love the commentary ... good video!
bring it on,i have a pajero/shogun 3.5 litre v6,cant wait till snow time
im sure no one knows what winter tyres are in this video!
Ah ah ah we get that almost everyday here in Canada for 4 months that a laugh!!!
The awd vehicles did fine. It was the front and rear wheel drives that struggled the most obviously. I cant stress this enough if you drive fwd or rwd. Get a good set of winter tires, its an investment that's well worth it for your safety and for others on the road.
I'm getting a small 4x4 next car I get.. I'm sick of being stuck in snow..
Why do ppl take rwd cars out in this weather great vid
snow tires ? salt ? snow plow ? you don't have ? in switzerland,
if it snows the snow hunts put salt on the road, and if we have an accident because of the snow and that have not had snow tires the insured not cover us
and we go in mountain for drift
or at least use chains
Sandro RateDochMal yes, too
Shaykin In london it doesn't snow much so they aren't prepared
What's the point in buying snow tires for 1 or 2 days a year
winter tyres to use one or two days a year???
lol thats barley any snow some to minnesota in the winter
My van is rear wheel drive and I drive 30kms to work in the snow no problem.
That silver Mercedes looks like an S Class. They're seriously heavy.
thats like last year... i got a new snowboard..no snow .___.
Oi, Lahndahn, may I suggest two lengths of rope in the boot? Tie them to a wheel spoke, then weave them over the tyre and back through the spokes until the tyre has a grippy rope tread. Move forward a bit to get the rest of the tyre and you will have enough grip to get you up most hills. Pretty sure there is a you tube video to show you how!
Me? I have snow tyres, but then I live in the Highlands of Scotland so I expect cold weather.
Dahn't be a muppet, get it sorted ;-p (in your best London geezer Micky Flanagan accent, which I love)
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
if you put an Automatic in drive, but don't use the throttle it moves slowly, so it might work in this weather,
Whole video i was like "why are they driving on the wrong side"
They haven´t winter tires, right?
I've an AUTOMATIC and I've got through snow.. it's about techinque and the occasional digging of snow..
I recently got stuck in my octavia VRS what sad'dns me is people just walked strigjt by ignoring my struggle. If it was me i would have deff helped with a push. This is why we struggle in snow 0 comnunity spirit :(
it is better to reduce the pressure in the summer tires
Oh dear. The usual winter chaos. All about knowing HOW to drive and react in adverse weather conditions. Most people select the wrong gear, rev the guts out of the motor and are clueless. As for automatic transmission in snow.......chocolate and fireguard spring to mind.........best advice......if you cannot drive in snow......stay at home. Then again, our local authorities cannot deal with winter weather either......double - edged sword here.
+victor furay Its all about the tyres mate.
The police should have closed the road to uphill traffic as the down hill traffic was behaving in a sensible way & while it was closed could have shovelled the uphill side & called for the plough & gritter to make it safe then repeat the process for the downhill side as all the dangerous antisocial behavior was on the uphill side as is always the case why do the behave correctly when going down hill but behave like idiots when going uphill? it does not make sense.as going uphill is more dangerous & damaging for vehicles flooring it constitutes dangerous driving & this should be made a specific offence as not only is it highly dangerous & damaging for the vehicle it also causes a dreadful noise nuisance which is distressing & painful to listen to which sounds like a cat in distress as this idiotic behavior is totally unnesscary as why should residents in this street have to put up with this dreadful racket? in my view NO ONE should be allowed to drive on the roads until they have been cleared & made safe .
Hi Azureecosse,
One thing I would like to see introduced is during the driving lessons people take before their driving test , a few lessons on a skid pan should be made a requirement to teach people the appropriate method's of driving under slippy and hard to control conditions, as many whom are just passing their tests presently will have never had any experience of driving in winter weather...just a thought.
Happy New Year to all :)
Cheapest solution would be to put gravel and salt on the road and clear it from the snow.
Winter tires would be smart but if it snows very rarely, it doesn't make much sense for everyone to buy winter tires.
that was fun,they do the same here in fife sc..
old style fiat panda 4x4 has to be the best ever snow car.. really i have passed land rovers and other larger 4x4s with ease.
i can honestly say that i have never been stuck in deep snow on a road in my awesome panda 4x4 :D
how isn't the Mercedes equipped with winter tires? this is no excuse for the rich
cant wait till it snows. its the 8th of december and it STILL Hasnt snowed in nottingham D'X xoxo
no snow tyres no grip. either that or fit chains
Driving an automatic in 3rd seems to work best for me.. in snow..
snow chaines?
It doesn't say what part of London this is, but van drivers aside, surely a lot of the drivers in this video could use the tube or walk when it's like this?
What area of London is this?
Is this NW London by any chance?
ha yeah, that's actually what one of my friends said to me "i don't need snow tires as i'm a great driver"! it's me that has the last laugh as i drive past on a snow covered hill and don't stop to help them
Damn we had a very big snow fall
Is that an 1100d your snapping away with?
where is th dodge 4x4
Man: "We should help, really, shouldn't we?"
Woman: "Yeah, you should."
rofl
Yeah, i dont know about the laws in UK, they might be illegal there. Same thing with the crushed stone, you throw them in front of the tire to get you moving. the best kind of sand for that use is something like 5-10mm in diameter per grain, it bites nicely to the ice when you drive over it
I live in montreal, and had a toyota cressida along with a gmc safari, both rwd cars, they did just fine with all season tires in winter and even better with winter tires. rwd cars require a little bit of skill driving in snowy areas. tended to get a lot of fishtailing action, but overall only time i really had trouble was when the big storms came down 20+. But i understand why many have trouble there, unlike us where we get instant cleaning due to the commonality of the storms. Cheers everyone
Hi Azureecosse,
Up to a point I agree , but in the UK for 3 - 4 months of the year the average daily temperature for going to work and coming home is below +7oC , and as winter tyres are for rain , ice , slush , frost as well as ice and snow they are a safer option than normal tyres. I agree also about yout technique comment, a lot of things are 80% technique and 20% equipment, but if you have the wrong equipment all the technique in the world wont help, I've spent the last 20 yrs driving cont.
is that joe pastqualy @2:50
how londerners cope with snow.well they don't cope.they mearly struggle.lol hope we get some this year just one big snow event in the new year would do.
Top gear went to Norway once, don't think they'll be welcomed back.
"trying to push the 2 ton car"... it doesn't work like that... it didn't matter if it's 1, 2 or 3 tons... one person can help... it just needs a tiny little bit of momentum to get moving once the tyres get grip.
Lol that what I do every year. My focus RS is awesome in the snow and my girlfriends fiesta is also good
ever been to norway?
What part of London is this?