I have the fishbeard and it handles. I rode it a double overhead left point in Nicaragua and it was still solid. But I could see how on some days in the bigger/more hollow stuff having a pin would be nice.
im not a high performance board surfer, but enjoyed this review. it actually showed me more about what the twin pin is and isnt. shame album isnt sending you boards.
Love it, just came back from El Salvador and saw first hand how the twin pin was perfect for a point break with some power behind it. Sat in the water well and held where it needed to, but also released smoothly as well. Great comparison @surfnshow
Great review, you really did show how free flowing the FishBeard was. The V bottom on the Twin pin was reminiscent of the original MR twin.(which I bought from Ray in 1976 or 77 or 78 when ever he started selling them 😂)
Always a thumbs up Noel! Just got my fishbeard and been surfing it with Captain fin co acid splash blue fins. Might need to change them out tho as I feel like they slide out a bit in steeper surf.
Fishbeard in PU or Spinetek? I guess Spinetek for smaller grovel surf and PU if I want to push the upper limits in the size range? Or would you just ignore PU and really Spinetek is the best option for it.?
Apples and oranges. Sometimes you want an apple. Sometimes you want an orange. Both look great for different feels. But I love my Rocket wide. I can surf a very wide range on it. NS is the only human whose surfing doesn't regress with time. Keep on ripping!
Epic review as always Noel! I see you also use a tailpad of the FB. Does your tailpad have a kicker and do you place it as far back as possible or over the fin box? and also would you say its better to get the FB at the upper end of your volume range for an intermediate surfer? i weigh the same as you but i'm 6'0
Yes my pad has a kicker and I customized my pad to get it all the way back on the Leash Plug. Cut the pad a little is how i customize it. Yes size up roughly 1 liter.
Great review once again. Congrats, Noel and Aaron! Got my FB recently and i'm really impressed by the speed and hold of it. But i'm still figuring out the fins. I felt the AM Keels were good, but a bit too stiff at times - being a lighter/smaller guy (5'5_145 lb) Tried the Macahdo Seaside front quads and worked, but slided too much. Between your Keel and HP Twin set, which would you recommend for the FB (FCS2) in shoulder-head high? thanks a lot!! keep those great reviews coming, guys. cheers.
I recommend our Hp Keels for maximum drive, hold, pivot and release. My HP Twins are faster rail to rail, quicker into the lip with excellent pivot. The HP Twins are incredible for pocket surfing with solid hood and drive. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins
Hey Noel! Thoughts on the Fishbeard vs RNF 96 for a mid-intermediate surfer? Looks like I'd be on a 5'3" RNF or a 5'6" Fishbeard. Looking for something versatile to travel with. I like to laydown carves mainly. Wondering if that extra 3" on the Fishbeard will add to increased stability for me. Cheers.
Hope you and your family had a wonderful 4th of July happy birthday America I just purse it a 6'10 Walden mega magic mini I'm very pleased with it I'm 52 it's got 67 l of volume perfect for Texas surf. I wish they had a vlog that was consistent to review boards for bigger guys like myself I'm 6 ft 6 230 lb I'm a big old Texas boy LOL but I love your show and I've been watching it since the beginning
If the MR’s do not offer enough hold then you can get a set of my HP Twins in Two Tab and use them with the MR Trailer. You can check them out here. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/twin-fins-hp-twins
Great review Noel - quick question, which did you prefer the PU Fishbeard or the Spine-Tek Fishboard...your turns looked super crisp on the Spine-tek model?
It depends on what size waves you are buying the Twin Pin for. For me the Twin Pin is more of a good wave Twin and I would go go up roughly 1L in volume as my HPSB due to the Vee bottom and the rails being engaged through turns. I like the Twin Pin in 3-8’ surf.
Hey Noel, Love your work with these comparison style vids! Quick question for you- I’m looking to buy a Fishbeard but stuck between sizes. I normally ride between a 38-40L in most of my boards, with my current daily board being a 6’3 38L CI Sampler Should I go for a 6’2 at 37.5L or the 6’4 at 41L? I’m 6’2, 210lbs, intermediate who surfs 2-4 times a week in beach break conditions on the east coast of Aus. I plan to use it as my daily driver in 2’-6’ surf. Any input would be great, I’m stoked to get a Fishbeard!
Hi Noel,thank you very much for the review.I was thinking adding the twin pin to my quiver , iam riding mostly beachies in Portugal and want to use it in6ft plus.Would it be a good choice or rather not recommend it for bb so much?thank you ,greetings
Hi Noel, Do you think i could take the fishbeard to indo as a one board quiver for a daily driver and then a sweetspot 3.0 for my step up? so a two board quiver?
Noel, I may have missed it but for the fishbeard are you saying that the Al Merrick keel fins are your choice or your surfnshow HP twin fins? (Might be a bias question for you😳) thanks for you advice
My Hp Twins are my favorite on the Fishbeard and all other performance Twin Fins that I’ve tested so far. incredible hold, performance in the pocket, with excellent drive. The Al Merrick Keels offer excellent hold and drive, but they lack pivot and performance in the pocket.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 hi Noel..i wanna get your HP twins for the Fishbeard im gonna order soon but worried they may not have enough hold in the winter here in san diego when the waves get bigger. for year round surf would they have enough hold, or would you recommend your HP keels as a better option? thx
@@mitchell_w If you are a heavily front footed surfer then my HP Twins might not have enough hold for you. However the HP Keels will work insane for you on the FB if you are heavily front footed and they offer way more performance compared to the AMK’s. If you surf off the tail more then I highly recommend my HP Twins for maximum performance with incredible hold.
You talked a lot about fins here so… I have a RW with futures Large pivot fins and i feel it’s very loose for me… I’m looking for more stability in 1-4 ft surf any recommendations on futures fins that might help?
@@RBNK157 If you weigh 170 or more then go Large, if your under 170 then go Medium in Peformarnce core in FCSII or Honeycomb in Futures. I highly recommend my Raked template…. Check them out here. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-thruster-rakes
@@RBNK157 My fins are a mix of a Large fin and a Medium fin for guys that weigh 140-210 lbs. get the Raked template… it comes with two different center fins. One center fin is a little smaller compared to side fins to keep the tail loose n playful. The other center fin is the same size as the side fins for more hold and control when the waves are bigger. All of my Signature Momentum Series fins have a large base for maximum drive through turns and medium fin depth to keep your board fast n loose.
Hey noel, awesome video as always! Between the inferno 72 and the pyzalien 2 which one would you choose as daily driver for a brazilian beach break surfer?
I would go I72 for fun Beachies. It’s quicker rail to rail, quicker in tight transitions due to it being shorter, and faster down the line due to less overall rocker.
@@eduardosa9115 Fala, Eduardo. Temos uma opinião parecida com a de Noel Salas sobre a sua pergunta. Você pode levar essa conversa adiante com um de nossos consultores no site do PranchaNova.com.
Gday Noel can I have your opinion pls , I’m in my mid 50s, 200bls i have a 6.2 fishbeard 37lts but looking at a 6,0 fishbeard 35.2lts , do you think it’s a good size for me and I’m pretty good on the board I’d say advanced . CHEERS
interresting description of a V bottom... now I want to get a thurster with some V on the tail, becouse my current board slides sideway on bottom turns. I also ordered a smaller fin with less flex, do you think this might work?
It will be slower, but look at 80's boards with heaps more volume, a flatter rocker and a wider outline. Fun in small surf. Mabey get channels with wide swallow would help speed.
@@adamwaz5615 Noel has his own style and perception of surfing..and that's what we like in these reviews ! I don't surf like him at all and I know that his preferences won't be mine in term of surfboards. I guess that companies like Album don't want/need reviews from Noel's point of view because it doesn't suit their style.. I wouldn't say that's a shame, it's all personal !
@@FredDeMassiveAlambic not sure about that. Look at Josh surfing Album. He fucking rips!! Look at Noel, he absolutely rips as well. He would kill it. Albums not about carves and cruzing.
CI Twin still best twinny. For some reason they’re $800 all of a sudden. Would pay that much but yet to have a CI that didn’t buckle or have a fin box blow out within 3 months.
The twin pin would go better with small stand-up fins like Futures Pivots or FCII Reactors. I took out my back fin on my thruster & it's suddenly twice as fast & so loose it's hard to control, but lots of fun. If I put in two stiffer normal fins it would hold better. I'll put in my JJs which have more rake and see. Or you can just throw in a stabiliser at the back. That's it see. You don't need a new board, just take out your back thruster fin.
It would be interesting but it would still be slower compared to the FB in my opinion. Vee bottom boards do not carry the same speed in my book. Concave boards are faster…
I have the fishbeard and it handles. I rode it a double overhead left point in Nicaragua and it was still solid. But I could see how on some days in the bigger/more hollow stuff having a pin would be nice.
Fishbeard all day long !!!
Different model comparisons,… diggin' it!
That intro was fire 🔥
im not a high performance board surfer, but enjoyed this review. it actually showed me more about what the twin pin is and isnt. shame album isnt sending you boards.
This is why I chose a 6'1 twin pin. I want it for winter and bigger days
Love it, just came back from El Salvador and saw first hand how the twin pin was perfect for a point break with some power behind it. Sat in the water well and held where it needed to, but also released smoothly as well. Great comparison @surfnshow
Can you tell me your size board ( twin pin )..???
@@juanecheverrialoidi2790 stock 6’1”
Great review, you really did show how free flowing the FishBeard was. The V bottom on the Twin pin was reminiscent of the original MR twin.(which I bought from Ray in 1976 or 77 or 78 when ever he started selling them 😂)
Awesome distinction between the preferable conditions for each board 🔥 Your reviews are the bomb !
Cheers for the kind words
Always a thumbs up Noel! Just got my fishbeard and been surfing it with Captain fin co acid splash blue fins. Might need to change them out tho as I feel like they slide out a bit in steeper surf.
You will the love FB with my HP Twins.
Fishbeard in PU or Spinetek? I guess Spinetek for smaller grovel surf and PU if I want to push the upper limits in the size range? Or would you just ignore PU and really Spinetek is the best option for it.?
I really like mine in Spinetek but you have it right. If you want to push the FB in a little bigger surf go PU
Apples and oranges. Sometimes you want an apple. Sometimes you want an orange. Both look great for different feels.
But I love my Rocket wide. I can surf a very wide range on it. NS is the only human whose surfing doesn't regress with time. Keep on ripping!
Epic review as always Noel! I see you also use a tailpad of the FB. Does your tailpad have a kicker and do you place it as far back as possible or over the fin box? and also would you say its better to get the FB at the upper end of your volume range for an intermediate surfer? i weigh the same as you but i'm 6'0
Yes my pad has a kicker and I customized my pad to get it all the way back on the Leash Plug. Cut the pad a little is how i customize it.
Yes size up roughly 1 liter.
I would love to see you on Christenson Lane Splitter or even a Fish
got enough boards already. just tuning in to see you surfing small waves. :)
Great review and comparison. Which twin fin surfboard that you have reviewed is your favorite? Also where is the fish beard on that list?
Right now it’s the Rusty Twin fin, Fishbeard, and Akila Aipa Modern Fish. Fishbeard is 2nd best.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Do you think this board would be good in spinetek?
Great review once again. Congrats, Noel and Aaron!
Got my FB recently and i'm really impressed by the speed and hold of it.
But i'm still figuring out the fins.
I felt the AM Keels were good, but a bit too stiff at times - being a lighter/smaller guy (5'5_145 lb)
Tried the Macahdo Seaside front quads and worked, but slided too much.
Between your Keel and HP Twin set, which would you recommend for the FB (FCS2) in shoulder-head high?
thanks a lot!!
keep those great reviews coming, guys. cheers.
I recommend our Hp Keels for maximum drive, hold, pivot and release. My HP Twins are faster rail to rail, quicker into the lip with excellent pivot. The HP Twins are incredible for pocket surfing with solid hood and drive. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks, Noel!
Hey Noel!
Thoughts on the Fishbeard vs RNF 96 for a mid-intermediate surfer? Looks like I'd be on a 5'3" RNF or a 5'6" Fishbeard. Looking for something versatile to travel with. I like to laydown carves mainly. Wondering if that extra 3" on the Fishbeard will add to increased stability for me. Cheers.
I love the FB and twin fins… however if I was traveling I would go 96. Less rail line but more versatile
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you
that was super informative and helpful. Thanks Noel!
Hope you and your family had a wonderful 4th of July happy birthday America I just purse it a 6'10 Walden mega magic mini I'm very pleased with it I'm 52 it's got 67 l of volume perfect for Texas surf. I wish they had a vlog that was consistent to review boards for bigger guys like myself I'm 6 ft 6 230 lb I'm a big old Texas boy LOL but I love your show and I've been watching it since the beginning
Yewww!! Cheers
I have a flat earth with fcs I ride the Mr +1 is there bigger fins you would recommend 🤙
If the MR’s do not offer enough hold then you can get a set of my HP Twins in Two Tab and use them with the MR Trailer. You can check them out here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/twin-fins-hp-twins
You can also try am2 back fin
Great review Noel - quick question, which did you prefer the PU Fishbeard or the Spine-Tek Fishboard...your turns looked super crisp on the Spine-tek model?
I prefer the Spinetek Fishbeard
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Gracias...picking up my Fishbeard tomorrow in Spinetek!! Will start with the AMK fins and see how that goes, thanks again.
Still need to choose between 5-8 and 5-10?!
A review for the lost sub driver 2.0 in light speed???
If you had both of these boards would you recommend sizing the twin pin larger than the fish beard.
It depends on what size waves you are buying the Twin Pin for. For me the Twin Pin is more of a good wave Twin and I would go go up roughly 1L in volume as my HPSB due to the Vee bottom and the rails being engaged through turns. I like the Twin Pin in 3-8’ surf.
Hey Noel,
Love your work with these comparison style vids! Quick question for you- I’m looking to buy a Fishbeard but stuck between sizes. I normally ride between a 38-40L in most of my boards, with my current daily board being a 6’3 38L CI Sampler
Should I go for a 6’2 at 37.5L or the 6’4 at 41L?
I’m 6’2, 210lbs, intermediate who surfs 2-4 times a week in beach break conditions on the east coast of Aus. I plan to use it as my daily driver in 2’-6’ surf. Any input would be great, I’m stoked to get a Fishbeard!
FB is amazing… that’s a huge gap in volume between sizes. I say go for the bigger one.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel, appreciate your insight. I’ve just ordered a 6’4 in PU! Can’t wait!
Hey, Eric Arakawa HP Twin?
Have you tried "the Vinnie" from Bob McTavish ? Would love to see a review of the board. Awesome work brother. Cherrs
Thank you so much for your reviews Noel !
Was wondering, which one do you prefer betwenn the Flat Earth and the Fishbeard ?
I prefer the Fishbeard
Damn,, you sure made both those boards look good.
Hi Noel,thank you very much for the review.I was thinking adding the twin pin to my quiver , iam riding mostly beachies in Portugal and want to use it in6ft plus.Would it be a good choice or rather not recommend it for bb so much?thank you ,greetings
The Twin Pin will go mental in hollow Beachies!!!
Hi Noel,
Do you think i could take the fishbeard to indo as a one board quiver for a daily driver and then a sweetspot 3.0 for my step up? so a two board quiver?
Sounds fun to me. If you like your FB in all types of waves. I do
Noel, I may have missed it but for the fishbeard are you saying that the Al Merrick keel fins are your choice or your surfnshow HP twin fins? (Might be a bias question for you😳) thanks for you advice
My Hp Twins are my favorite on the Fishbeard and all other performance Twin Fins that I’ve tested so far. incredible hold, performance in the pocket, with excellent drive. The Al Merrick Keels offer excellent hold and drive, but they lack pivot and performance in the pocket.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 hi Noel..i wanna get your HP twins for the Fishbeard im gonna order soon but worried they may not have enough hold in the winter here in san diego when the waves get bigger. for year round surf would they have enough hold, or would you recommend your HP keels as a better option? thx
@@mitchell_w If you are a heavily front footed surfer then my HP Twins might not have enough hold for you. However the HP Keels will work insane for you on the FB if you are heavily front footed and they offer way more performance compared to the AMK’s. If you surf off the tail more then I highly recommend my HP Twins for maximum performance with incredible hold.
You talked a lot about fins here so…
I have a RW with futures Large pivot fins and i feel it’s very loose for me…
I’m looking for more stability in 1-4 ft surf any recommendations on futures fins that might help?
Try the Al Merrick fins. Choosing a fin with more rake will tighten it up a bit and give you more control
@@surfnshowreviews7777 hi Noel thanks for the reply ! which ones ?
@@RBNK157 If you weigh 170 or more then go Large, if your under 170 then go Medium in Peformarnce core in FCSII or Honeycomb in Futures. I highly recommend my Raked template…. Check them out here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-thruster-rakes
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I’m looking at your fins looks good!
Is it medium or large ? I’m 165 give or take and i need set of 3 for the rocket wide
@@RBNK157 My fins are a mix of a Large fin and a Medium fin for guys that weigh 140-210 lbs. get the Raked template… it comes with two different center fins. One center fin is a little smaller compared to side fins to keep the tail loose n playful. The other center fin is the same size as the side fins for more hold and control when the waves are bigger. All of my Signature Momentum Series fins have a large base for maximum drive through turns and medium fin depth to keep your board fast n loose.
Hey noel, awesome video as always! Between the inferno 72 and the pyzalien 2 which one would you choose as daily driver for a brazilian beach break surfer?
I would go I72 for fun Beachies. It’s quicker rail to rail, quicker in tight transitions due to it being shorter, and faster down the line due to less overall rocker.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks man!
@@eduardosa9115 Fala, Eduardo. Temos uma opinião parecida com a de Noel Salas sobre a sua pergunta. Você pode levar essa conversa adiante com um de nossos consultores no site do PranchaNova.com.
Gday Noel can I have your opinion pls , I’m in my mid 50s, 200bls i have a 6.2 fishbeard 37lts but looking at a 6,0 fishbeard 35.2lts , do you think it’s a good size for me and I’m pretty good on the board I’d say advanced . CHEERS
I say 32-34L for Pro/Expert, 34-36L for advanced, and 37-39L, Intermediate. So 35.2L sounds about right.
interresting description of a V bottom... now I want to get a thurster with some V on the tail, becouse my current board slides sideway on bottom turns. I also ordered a smaller fin with less flex, do you think this might work?
That should help
It will be slower, but look at 80's boards with heaps more volume, a flatter rocker and a wider outline. Fun in small surf. Mabey get channels with wide swallow would help speed.
Can you do a chilli faded 2.0 review 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Chilli BV2 review is up next
What's with all the Al Merrick reviews? Next please. How about Album twinsman? 🤙
The folks at Album surfboards said they don’t see the value in our reviews. So no boards coming my way…. Sorry I tried.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 damn that's a shame 🙄
@@adamwaz5615 Noel has his own style and perception of surfing..and that's what we like in these reviews ! I don't surf like him at all and I know that his preferences won't be mine in term of surfboards. I guess that companies like Album don't want/need reviews from Noel's point of view because it doesn't suit their style.. I wouldn't say that's a shame, it's all personal !
@@FredDeMassiveAlambic not sure about that. Look at Josh surfing Album. He fucking rips!! Look at Noel, he absolutely rips as well. He would kill it. Albums not about carves and cruzing.
@@adamwaz5615 Not about ripping or not : style, perception, feelings are very personnal : look how different are mick fanning's and medina's boards.
Great review!!!
CI Twin still best twinny. For some reason they’re $800 all of a sudden. Would pay that much but yet to have a CI that didn’t buckle or have a fin box blow out within 3 months.
Always
Ripping !!!! nice one
The twin pin would go better with small stand-up fins like Futures Pivots or FCII Reactors. I took out my back fin on my thruster & it's suddenly twice as fast & so loose it's hard to control, but lots of fun. If I put in two stiffer normal fins it would hold better. I'll put in my JJs which have more rake and see. Or you can just throw in a stabiliser at the back. That's it see. You don't need a new board, just take out your back thruster fin.
twins are usually xl fins
Pukas?
Would love to see Pukas reviews.
Fishbeard.
Twin pin.
put a swallow on the twin pin and the same dimensions as the fish beard would make an interesting comparison. ;)
It would be interesting but it would still be slower compared to the FB in my opinion. Vee bottom boards do not carry the same speed in my book. Concave boards are faster…
One surf, = French! For security- only! Look at, that! Dead in the, water. That's gayest- damn style, ever?