Debuting a group with members who are 'ugly' to point that you can be successful without visuals but talent, only to be forced to become pretty to make a comeback really proves the point that we DO care about visuals. Kpop is ABOUT visuals and you can't succeed WITHOUT visuals. It's sad honestly :(
@@peachxtaehyung It's a hard to swallow pill, but you probably also care about looks to some point. Its a natural evolutionary human trait. Also there is something like Halo effect, you automatically assume that a pretty person is also good, smart, nice etc. I see that my life as a normal looking person is a bit harder comparing to lives of beautiful people, but unfortunately thats how humans are
@@zosiexofficialSad but true, we all care at some extent. I’m an average looking girl and same, I’m 100% sure many of my problems would solve if I was conventionally pretty but for my bad luck I’m not.
It is not about visuals, but which company you are from. Like there are visuals in more underrated groups like Jinsoul from Loona and Jiu from Dreamcatcher who fit korean beauty standards, but are not known because they debuted in unknown companies. Meanwhile we have unattractive people in big companies like Sohee from Riize that is famous because of SM. So visuals is not the problem, but the company.
@@vixxexo6855 sure, the company might be part of the problem but visuals are too. Even if Sohee doesn't fit the beauty standards, he is still somewhat good looking and most importantly in good shape. Personally I think he is attractive.. if the members had debuted with the same body and looks but from a big company, they would have garnered more fame but they would have been bullied to shreds the same way they were when they debuted from a small company. Instead, if their facial structures weren't that good looking but they were in good shape, really just skinny they would've been more popular. So yes, the company does have a part in it but visuals, especially your body shape matters. We've seen female idols get insanely bullied for being more chubby or having thicker thighs like Jiwoo from NMIXX or Liz from IVE. Visuals do matter.
This is a great idea for a series! My vote would be for PIXY, who has a small but very tight fanbase. They have had a lot of challenges finding an audience, but people who find them often are baffled by their overall quality and small viewership. I had the pleasure to see them at their US debut, and they were really wonderful.
Using an OEC clip when you say "the importantance of extensive worldbuilding" - I see what you did there, I'm already sold. You had the "alarm bells" bit about BBC in there twice, but I agree, Geenius definitely have potential and I'm glad they finally debuted! There's one totally nugu (as in, released one single and you can't even find it easily) soloist I really liked years ago, called Luah. I think her song was a special project from Areia Creations (the remix guy), called "Feelin' It." The MV is super cringey, but the song was ahead of its time, doing tropical house in Kpop before that trend really took off. I listened to that song nonstop in spring 2017
For a nugu group to cover, I highly recommend Eite!! They debuted a few months ago with the song Independent Woman, and it EATS. They have a strong, mature concept with great vocals and choreo, and they're all ADULTS which is so refreshing. And the song itself is an absolute bop with synth beats. I decided to stan the moment I checked them out.
Something about nugu groups that makes me often times very nervous about them, which is even mentioned in the video, are trashy companies, even of the groups mentioned in the fourth chapter there are two whose companies I really don’t like (BBC for very obvious reasons and FM due to the Beomhan situation) so I get why a lot of people don’t even check out those groups but there are so many good ones that it makes it really sad A personal favourite group that I personally feel comfortable actually calling nugu would be CSR, their songs are so good, the members seem sweet (and really talented) and the company doesn’t seem to bad (love that they got a very sweet concept considering the members all debuting with around 17 years and also their physical albums are such a treat to open due to the very pure and honest feeling I get from the group if that makes any sense)
The "nuguest" group i stanned were Laysha and Badkiz/Hot Place, the hardest thing are the member changes and the hiatus for Badkiz, as Laysha seems to be quit active
I love the idea of sharing some nugu groups! I would recommend PIXY and E'LAST, both have very distinct and impressive sounds and imagery and I'm shocked neither of them are better recognized.
@@vixxexo6855 their still a nugu group because their not know in the industry and the views and streams aren’t giving them enough revenue. Which could result in them disbanding if they can’t afford to create new music and to continue creating good quality MVs.
this is such an amazing idea for a series! i loveee underrated/nugu groups so much. i would recommend beauty box, queenz eye, bugaboo, maka’maka, or favorite as groups to talk about!
A somewhat nugu group that imo deserves a video of it's own is NINE.i They're a boy group that nobody really ever talks about, but their music is just amazing! One of the contestants made it really far in Boys Planet
Talking about nugu groups always makes me think of VAV because theyre the opposite of nugu (theyve been active for 7+ years at this point) but they're constantly labeled as nugu by articles/videos and its become an inside joke amongst fans on how aggravating it must be to them lol
If you're going to feature more Nugudom groups, well... there's one group who only last year produced a song called "Nugudom". They're called *CRAXY*. Think of them like a dark/harder, more rap focused Dreamcatcher or PIXY. They are insanely good, both in terms of vocals and choreography. I'm shocked that no one in the comment section is saying a word about them, which only means they are SUPER slept on. Aside from "Nugudom", check out "Undercover", "Poison Rose", and "No Limit". These are all fairly recent and gives a showcase of how capable they are (especially the mix-tapes, which sort of have an NMIXX feel in that it's like several songs made into one). Lastly.... Pocket Girls serving the Lord by helping the military find Jesus, lmao. Midnight Theories getting a little sassy this video lol.
You should talk about Blady or D.Holic if you get the chance! There's nothing sinister or dark about the groups thankfully, but they do have great music and are barely remembered.
Woah, I’ve never been this early ever 😳 thanks for highlighting an interesting topic within the kpop world. Nom was such an eccentric concept when I first started listening to kpop as a young girl 😂probably something I shouldn’t have seen at such a young age but I just laugh at it now. I really did think they had cool music for the time!
companies with smaller budgets should just film outside tbh and choose interesting locations. it might not be as exciting for koreans but international fans would appreciate scenes of korea and everyday korean life. also having a low budget doesn’t mean you can’t be creative. there are iconic videos out there where there is just a plain background and the focus is on the singer’s acting/facial expression or maybe just drawing some art for the background of the MV or something, putting face paint on, etc. these companies need to hire more creative production teams that know how to work with limited budgets
Here's the names of the groups in order just in case you wanted to look up their songs more❤ 1)N.O.M 2)Piggy Dolls 3)Six Bomb 4)Solia 5)Q6IX 6)Catchuuuu 7)Waveya 8)Pocket girls 9)MOA 10)Chaness 11)Kingdom 12)Geenius 13)M.O.N.T 14)WE;NA
A charming group that i've been stanning for a while is QIX (an LGBTQ+ group) to me, they're promising if only they had alot of funds i feel like they could make some banger songs/mvs 😩. However the music they had released already still slaps!
Irris oh my gosh they have such great music and their company is abandoning them when haven’t had much attention. They haven’t tried hard enough to market them yet😢😢😢
very interesting video! i would appreciate if you looked more into onlyoneof. they have phenomenal discography and they've recently made a comeback with dopamine. a lot of netizens know them by their viral song libido but there's so much more about them. they tackle different themes in their songs such as toxic relationships, gaslighting, objectification, religious guilt and of course sexuality. their underground idol project is also worth mentioning. all members participate in music production and choreography. all their songs are top tier and i wish more people would appreciate their art and heart work.
I'd definitely would love to see about Xeed. The members are a bit older (they're still young but for kpop standards... They're grandpas 😅) so I think it would be interesting to dive a bit more into this group 💖
MAJORS! Rain on Me’s vocals and choreography are tragically slept on 😭 ruclips.net/video/hbXWiFZfqv4/видео.htmlsi=l0vVb56uXcnZxQSn unfortunately they disbanded recently and a member participated on Universe Ticket but their short time was full of bops! Thank you for featuring Kingdom, Coup Detat is *chefs kiss* ❤️
My problem with nugu groups (that I dont stan them) its because their songs are boring, they sound the same. I dont even know how many times I checked a MV of a nugu group and after the chorus I went to watch another video. So then I am not surprised they are nugu. If the companies dont wsnt them to be nugu, they should give them more catchy and fun songs.
I've been watching gonna have to disagree whenever you say k pop is hyper masculine.The term " Flower Boy" I will agree with. I mean no disrespect to any of the male kpop groups(not a fan of male groups to begin with). But as a fan in general I support all groups in spirit
I think they meant as in concept and not appearence. Like many popular groups like Stray Kids, Ateez and NCT makes aggresive music with loud instrumentals.
Debuting a group with members who are 'ugly' to point that you can be successful without visuals but talent, only to be forced to become pretty to make a comeback really proves the point that we DO care about visuals. Kpop is ABOUT visuals and you can't succeed WITHOUT visuals. It's sad honestly :(
Yeah it's so sad. Alot of people including me truly don't care what someone looks like but unfortunately most people aren't like that ugh
@@peachxtaehyung It's a hard to swallow pill, but you probably also care about looks to some point. Its a natural evolutionary human trait. Also there is something like Halo effect, you automatically assume that a pretty person is also good, smart, nice etc. I see that my life as a normal looking person is a bit harder comparing to lives of beautiful people, but unfortunately thats how humans are
@@zosiexofficialSad but true, we all care at some extent. I’m an average looking girl and same, I’m 100% sure many of my problems would solve if I was conventionally pretty but for my bad luck I’m not.
It is not about visuals, but which company you are from. Like there are visuals in more underrated groups like Jinsoul from Loona and Jiu from Dreamcatcher who fit korean beauty standards, but are not known because they debuted in unknown companies. Meanwhile we have unattractive people in big companies like Sohee from Riize that is famous because of SM. So visuals is not the problem, but the company.
@@vixxexo6855 sure, the company might be part of the problem but visuals are too. Even if Sohee doesn't fit the beauty standards, he is still somewhat good looking and most importantly in good shape. Personally I think he is attractive.. if the members had debuted with the same body and looks but from a big company, they would have garnered more fame but they would have been bullied to shreds the same way they were when they debuted from a small company. Instead, if their facial structures weren't that good looking but they were in good shape, really just skinny they would've been more popular. So yes, the company does have a part in it but visuals, especially your body shape matters. We've seen female idols get insanely bullied for being more chubby or having thicker thighs like Jiwoo from NMIXX or Liz from IVE. Visuals do matter.
calling a group who’s not meant to focus on visuals “piggy dolls” just seems like a set up
This is a great idea for a series! My vote would be for PIXY, who has a small but very tight fanbase. They have had a lot of challenges finding an audience, but people who find them often are baffled by their overall quality and small viewership. I had the pleasure to see them at their US debut, and they were really wonderful.
I can second that. Pixy was great live! They have underrated vocals too. And one of my favorite fan songs
I love pixy! I hope they’ll find an audience like dreamcatcher has, there is an audience for creepy concepts it’s just that they gotta find them first
I love pixy!
"Aside from helping military men find Jesus"
I almost laughed my ass off on a train ride
Using an OEC clip when you say "the importantance of extensive worldbuilding" - I see what you did there, I'm already sold.
You had the "alarm bells" bit about BBC in there twice, but I agree, Geenius definitely have potential and I'm glad they finally debuted!
There's one totally nugu (as in, released one single and you can't even find it easily) soloist I really liked years ago, called Luah. I think her song was a special project from Areia Creations (the remix guy), called "Feelin' It." The MV is super cringey, but the song was ahead of its time, doing tropical house in Kpop before that trend really took off. I listened to that song nonstop in spring 2017
I just found it because of your comment. Definitely a good song.
For a nugu group to cover, I highly recommend Eite!! They debuted a few months ago with the song Independent Woman, and it EATS. They have a strong, mature concept with great vocals and choreo, and they're all ADULTS which is so refreshing. And the song itself is an absolute bop with synth beats. I decided to stan the moment I checked them out.
Let’s get… ClASSy!
(Throws it back)
😭💀😭💀😭
off the top of my head my recommendation would be 24k. They also competed on mix nine and have enough lineup changes for a rania-style timeline video.
Something about nugu groups that makes me often times very nervous about them, which is even mentioned in the video, are trashy companies, even of the groups mentioned in the fourth chapter there are two whose companies I really don’t like (BBC for very obvious reasons and FM due to the Beomhan situation) so I get why a lot of people don’t even check out those groups but there are so many good ones that it makes it really sad
A personal favourite group that I personally feel comfortable actually calling nugu would be CSR, their songs are so good, the members seem sweet (and really talented) and the company doesn’t seem to bad (love that they got a very sweet concept considering the members all debuting with around 17 years and also their physical albums are such a treat to open due to the very pure and honest feeling I get from the group if that makes any sense)
The "nuguest" group i stanned were Laysha and Badkiz/Hot Place, the hardest thing are the member changes and the hiatus for Badkiz, as Laysha seems to be quit active
Laysha is soooo underated
I love the idea of sharing some nugu groups! I would recommend PIXY and E'LAST, both have very distinct and impressive sounds and imagery and I'm shocked neither of them are better recognized.
Yess
nom is iconic, how the hell have i never heard about them before? even as a nugu group i feel like they wouldve been talked about no?
They were too ahead of their time.
ICHILLIN' and Queenz Eye, plus many more. Piggy Dolls, you will be missed. Also, Q6IX deserves attention because of their potential
What happened to ICHILLIN? I love some of their songs.
@@vixxexo6855 their still a nugu group because their not know in the industry and the views and streams aren’t giving them enough revenue. Which could result in them disbanding if they can’t afford to create new music and to continue creating good quality MVs.
"aside from helping military men find Jesus" when I tell you I snorted 💀
EDIT: I spoke too soon: the clam opener made me SCREAM
this is such an amazing idea for a series! i loveee underrated/nugu groups so much. i would recommend beauty box, queenz eye, bugaboo, maka’maka, or favorite as groups to talk about!
A somewhat nugu group that imo deserves a video of it's own is NINE.i
They're a boy group that nobody really ever talks about, but their music is just amazing!
One of the contestants made it really far in Boys Planet
a nugu group I recommend you is TAN. Their songs are all bops!
I need queenz eye to break into the mainstream so bad I will literally invent a time machine to make it happen
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I suggest Tint (a kpop girl group that debuted in 2013). Their debut sounds like Girls Day releases prior to the sexy concept.
I LOVE THAT SONG SMMM
Talking about nugu groups always makes me think of VAV because theyre the opposite of nugu (theyve been active for 7+ years at this point) but they're constantly labeled as nugu by articles/videos and its become an inside joke amongst fans on how aggravating it must be to them lol
If you're going to feature more Nugudom groups, well... there's one group who only last year produced a song called "Nugudom". They're called *CRAXY*. Think of them like a dark/harder, more rap focused Dreamcatcher or PIXY. They are insanely good, both in terms of vocals and choreography. I'm shocked that no one in the comment section is saying a word about them, which only means they are SUPER slept on. Aside from "Nugudom", check out "Undercover", "Poison Rose", and "No Limit". These are all fairly recent and gives a showcase of how capable they are (especially the mix-tapes, which sort of have an NMIXX feel in that it's like several songs made into one).
Lastly.... Pocket Girls serving the Lord by helping the military find Jesus, lmao. Midnight Theories getting a little sassy this video lol.
craxy are amazing
you should talk about Ghost9 and Atbo!! they were on peaktime last year
You should talk about Blady or D.Holic if you get the chance! There's nothing sinister or dark about the groups thankfully, but they do have great music and are barely remembered.
YESS B LADY AND DHOLIC!!
There's definitely a charm to nugu groups. Please make a video about onlyoneof 🙏
Pleaseeee do a video on laboum, ukiss and although im not sure theyre still going anymore but cross gene!!
KINGDOM MY BELOVED!
I saw Kingdom last year in Chicago! Such a great show and the boys were so nice!
Woah, I’ve never been this early ever 😳 thanks for highlighting an interesting topic within the kpop world. Nom was such an eccentric concept when I first started listening to kpop as a young girl 😂probably something I shouldn’t have seen at such a young age but I just laugh at it now. I really did think they had cool music for the time!
companies with smaller budgets should just film outside tbh and choose interesting locations. it might not be as exciting for koreans but international fans would appreciate scenes of korea and everyday korean life. also having a low budget doesn’t mean you can’t be creative. there are iconic videos out there where there is just a plain background and the focus is on the singer’s acting/facial expression or maybe just drawing some art for the background of the MV or something, putting face paint on, etc. these companies need to hire more creative production teams that know how to work with limited budgets
Here's the names of the groups in order just in case you wanted to look up their songs more❤
1)N.O.M
2)Piggy Dolls
3)Six Bomb
4)Solia
5)Q6IX
6)Catchuuuu
7)Waveya
8)Pocket girls
9)MOA
10)Chaness
11)Kingdom
12)Geenius
13)M.O.N.T
14)WE;NA
Im sorry im late. As someone who Stans lots of nugu groups it can be hard when we’re the very few fans of them ❤
You should do a video on saturday they are an amazing girl group that more people should check out.
One of my favorite nugu groups is MINIMANI
my recommendation is mimiirose :)
A charming group that i've been stanning for a while is QIX (an LGBTQ+ group) to me, they're promising if only they had alot of funds i feel like they could make some banger songs/mvs 😩. However the music they had released already still slaps!
What are songs you recommend by them?
@@peachxtaehyung it might not be some ppls cup of tea but I really like 'lights up' by them it's one of my favorites.
Please do a deep dive on Gangkiz!! They are one of my favorite nugu groups! ❤
Im watching this without earphones because they broke
I'm trusting the google generated translation
Wish me luck
1:16 LOOSSEMBAAAWWWLLLLL 😭❤ they so cunt in here 🥲
Thank you for the wonderful content! ❤ Your uploads always make my day better no matter what’s going on. 🥺👏❤️
A couple of suggestions…Irris, 3ye, Skyle
Irris oh my gosh they have such great music and their company is abandoning them when haven’t had much attention. They haven’t tried hard enough to market them yet😢😢😢
@@havensohn3821 yes I really think they are great
The second group is so ironic, it's like they became the villain they were fighting.
We need a QUEENZ EYE VIDEOOO😢
Nugu groups are very interesting!!!!
i love your channel so much 💝 the only kpop content i watch during mealtime
I don't know if they are nugu but I think A.C.E deserves more recognition, their voices and concepts are great
very interesting video! i would appreciate if you looked more into onlyoneof. they have phenomenal discography and they've recently made a comeback with dopamine. a lot of netizens know them by their viral song libido but there's so much more about them. they tackle different themes in their songs such as toxic relationships, gaslighting, objectification, religious guilt and of course sexuality. their underground idol project is also worth mentioning. all members participate in music production and choreography. all their songs are top tier and i wish more people would appreciate their art and heart work.
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I'd definitely would love to see about Xeed. The members are a bit older (they're still young but for kpop standards... They're grandpas 😅) so I think it would be interesting to dive a bit more into this group 💖
Yes! in general I would like to see more ""older"" people in kpop
Nugu songs i liked
N.tic - once again & do you know who i am
Blue Fox - Wake me up
I know their are not exactly nugu but could you make a video about tripleS?
Queenz eye ❤️
You HAVE to make a vid about Leader'S... the group with THE most members!!
CLASS:y and ILY:1 are some hidden gem groups!
damn, i missed this?? welp, I'm gonna watch this later.
Nugu groups are amazing!!
14:16 not ASSets 😭😭
!!! OH awsome idea i know i have missed out on some kick a.. groups i DO want to know what i am missing YT doesnt push them
It's going to be interesting!
Time to vote for Ily:1
please do a video on VIVIDIVA! gidles former member soo-jin was supposed to debut in VIVIDIVA ❤
Kinda bummed that this was just a compilation of groups/songs/choreo she already talked about in other videos.
*CIGNATURE PLEASE??*
okay but if i listen to geenius does any money go to bbc at all vause....
can you do bxb/trcng as most members r active in the industry still in some form!,
Girlkind please
Classy 🥹❤️
Are not nugu
i literally love nugu girl groups hello
I know every group that ever existed
LETS GO WE;NAAAA
Mimiirose and h1-Key
H1-key aren’t nugu they have a solid fan base in Korea they and paks
we need a video on P1Harmony PLEASE they’re criminally underrated!!!
i suggest onlyoneof bc they are my ults :e
dragon tattos on boys
Good video
Cignature
ILY:1
Pls do 8turn 🥹🧡
Cix and oneus
they are not nugu, but definitely need more attention
Can anyone tell me what group is at 1:38?
OnlyOneOf ❤
@@MsInternationalLov3r thank you!
I weird/unusual concepts in K-pop .
Listen to ICU they have a similar concept to orange caramel!!
EPEX
♥♥♥
Younite pls hehe
MAJORS! Rain on Me’s vocals and choreography are tragically slept on 😭 ruclips.net/video/hbXWiFZfqv4/видео.htmlsi=l0vVb56uXcnZxQSn
unfortunately they disbanded recently and a member participated on Universe Ticket but their short time was full of bops!
Thank you for featuring Kingdom, Coup Detat is *chefs kiss* ❤️
Yeah basically Rip ANS/Majors
2019-2022
Majors had several great songs. Thanks for the reminder
My problem with nugu groups (that I dont stan them) its because their songs are boring, they sound the same. I dont even know how many times I checked a MV of a nugu group and after the chorus I went to watch another video. So then I am not surprised they are nugu.
If the companies dont wsnt them to be nugu, they should give them more catchy and fun songs.
Bruh there so many good nugu groups with different concepts where do listen to them 💀💀
Some groups from the big 4 have songs that sound the same and people eat them up 🙄
I've been watching gonna have to disagree whenever you say k pop is hyper masculine.The term " Flower Boy" I will agree with. I mean no disrespect to any of the male kpop groups(not a fan of male groups to begin with). But as a fan in general I support all groups in spirit
I think they meant as in concept and not appearence. Like many popular groups like Stray Kids, Ateez and NCT makes aggresive music with loud instrumentals.
Don't know if they are considered nugu, but I submit MCND or P1Harmony.
Nugus/underrated groups i recommend:
-Onlyoneof
-TripleS
-CSR
-wooah!
-Vanner
-Pixy
-Ichillin
-CIX
-Craxy
-Cignature