First Gas Airplane Ends In A Catastrophic Crash

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • 1. Before you leave a comment about the RF signal critical...
    I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver.
    You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that
    there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does
    that unless you turn it off. i forgot to turn it off before the flight.
    However I did set up fail safe and did a range check so all good there.
    2. what happen?
    I added a soft Mount to my flight controller to test a few new things. This which actually worked OK on lower RPM.
    However at Full Throttle it got a little wonky
    due to the refresh rate of the flight controller matching the vibration rate of the full rpm.
    if you watch the video you can see this in flight and right before the crash. and when doing high speed passes. this was a known thing and this is what i was testing.
    Watching the video back it seems like I was going full power trying to pull up
    thinking more speed would help but actually I think it was upsetting the gyro even more.
    I kind of proved some of this out on the ground while I was testing and knew it could be trouble.
    I actually had two settings on the gyro on a switch so I could play with high gain and low gain.
    It didn't seem like it mattered but the low gain was more stable from the vibrations.
    I went out there to do some experimentation with this type of Gyro with that type of isolation
    and there's the result.
    3. The fact that know one was there was a blessing, it was also intentional. If I'm doing "new" testing of things i try to go out while know one is there for this exact reason.
    You cant fail if you don't get out there and try new things... but you also cant succeed ! don't be an arm chair pilot ( or commenter at that)
    so enjoy the carnage at my expense.
    ~Russ

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  • @RWGresearchLive
    @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +7

    1. Before you leave a comment about the RF signal critical...
    I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver.
    You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that
    there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does
    that unless you turn it off. i forgot to turn it off before the flight.
    However I did set up fail safe and did a range check so all good there.
    2. what happen?
    I added a soft Mount to my flight controller to test a few new things. This which actually worked OK on lower RPM.
    However at Full Throttle it got a little wonky
    due to the refresh rate of the flight controller matching the vibration rate of the full rpm.
    if you watch the video you can see this in flight and right before the crash. and when doing high speed passes. this was a known thing and this is what i was testing.
    Watching the video back it seems like I was going full power trying to pull up
    thinking more speed would help but actually I think it was upsetting the gyro even more.
    I kind of proved some of this out on the ground while I was testing and knew it could be trouble.
    I actually had two settings on the gyro on a switch so I could play with high gain and low gain.
    It didn't seem like it mattered but the low gain was more stable from the vibrations.
    I went out there to do some experimentation with this type of Gyro with that type of isolation
    and there's the result.
    3. The fact that know one was there was a blessing, it was also intentional. If I'm doing "new" testing of things i try to go out while know one is there for this exact reason.
    You cant fail if you don't get out there and try new things... but you also cant succeed ! don't be an arm chair pilot ( or commenter at that)
    so enjoy the carnage at my expense.
    ~Russ

    • @crazyaces9586
      @crazyaces9586 Месяц назад +1

      @RWGresearchLive Didn't want to come off in a bad way. I just heard the radio repeating it. P.s I have X1 carbon and love to print that one out.
      Thanks

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      All good my friend! just wanted to make sure there was more context to the video as it seems everyone keeps saying the same thing lol , cheers! ~Russ

    • @lectro88
      @lectro88 Месяц назад

      This Pinned comment has been copied and pasted by this Cat in almost every reply.
      Like this multi-module transmitter makes it ok to ignore if you don't shut it off so it doesn't yell at you..
      because you chose not to calibrate or you were unable to calibrate.
      Protocol, man.... protocol.
      And this guy does "Research" ...... SCARRY!
      And yes I have Read All 90+ posts

    • @MichaelPick1
      @MichaelPick1 Месяц назад +2

      Try new things , what ? Flying with servo jitters is not new things, it’s very known not to do it. What a waist of a beautiful plane. You should be fined for that failure caused by incompetence.

    • @therandomhumanbeing2820
      @therandomhumanbeing2820 Месяц назад

      I totally agree. I’ve had that same plane with the same zenoah 20cc engine. It’s a piece of cake to fly and rips the sky up like it’s on rails. I couldn’t force a bad landing out of it. I believe he took off without the gyro on anndnhe was doing fine. Not sure why he felt the need to ride it anll the way to the ground with it on if it wasn’t performing properly. I ultimately sold it since I had 4 other larger corsairs. That one actually flew best of them all and I miss it. I guess if planes kept getting “gifted” to me I could afford to “test” them into the ground as well. Lucky someone didn’t get killed.
      I don’t normally use gyros but aren’t they supposed to be HARD mounted, like NOT velcroed or double sided tape??? Don’t most people glue them and start at the Lowest possible gain and work up???

  • @bsmith8016
    @bsmith8016 Месяц назад +22

    You could not have picked the worst model to fly for your first gas model. Model was over powered, good chance over weight, may have fluttered the elevator. Corsair models are not forgiving.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Yeah. I know it's a hard model. I have lots of electric models. I mean it was doing great there for a bit then said... Na... I'll go for the parking lot! Haha ~Russ

    • @therandomhumanbeing2820
      @therandomhumanbeing2820 Месяц назад

      I’ve had that same plane with the same engine. It actually was the best flyer out of the 5 I owned. Tge other four were bigger and decided to keep the 3 largest ones and sold the other two. That one with the zenoah 20 flew like it was on rails and I couldn’t coax a bad landing out of it. Sure the engine was bit much but it actually balanced it perfectly without any ballast weight. Flutter is totally possible as I did experience that with mine and had to reinforce the horizontal stab and elevator. After that was done straight down and full power was nonissue at all. It’ll wouldn’t float in but was very manageable during landings for a warbird. Gyro ls of any kind certainly weren’t needed in any way shape or form. Some models benefit but I don’t see this as one of those.

  • @shelbyseelbach9568
    @shelbyseelbach9568 Месяц назад +10

    Horizon has everyone convinced that RC planes can't fly without a gyro of one kind of another.

    • @1FlybyPilot
      @1FlybyPilot Месяц назад

      been flying for years and have never used one. probably good for beginners though

    • @richard1472
      @richard1472 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@1FlybyPilot
      Best thing for a beginner is a qualified instructor.

    • @calank923
      @calank923 Месяц назад

      @@richard1472 And a simulator lol this was a disaster from the moment it took off

    • @calank923
      @calank923 Месяц назад

      Facts it’s sad as hell. Even in the helicopter world they learn on these little blade helis from horizon and think they can go straight to a 600-700 size but soon realize that auto stability crap they grew accustomed to are not going to be on an actual hobby grade helicopter and it ends very badly. We usually get videos of this in my groups I’m in and it’s a 3 thousand dollar mess of parts after

  • @trevorirvine9786
    @trevorirvine9786 Месяц назад +17

    Real flight Simulator…. If you can’t do it on the sim, you can’t in real life. It will save you a lot of time, money, and sadness. Good luck. Keep the great attitude!

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +4

      See that's the funny part I usually fly in Phoenix simulator. And this particular location and map can be downloaded and used in Phoenix simulator. The funny part is is I can fly through the fence in that simulator because somebody didn't set the map up 100%. Hahahah
      ~Russ

  • @johnnyfearlesszrx
    @johnnyfearlesszrx Месяц назад +5

    My guess is the elevator was wagging till it broke the control horn or stripped a servo gear.
    The stabiliser let you take off, so I don't think that was the issue.
    Wagging or flutter causes way more stress than you might think.
    I read what you said about the signal warning but I would not have flown that plane with the glitching or the warnings.
    Fixing on the ground is definitely preferable to fixing after they hit the ground.
    The plane and transmitter were both telling you not to fly.
    Sorry for the loss but as you said, main thing is nobody was sat there and it takes balls to put the video online.
    I'm impressed at the short time between, I haven't crashed yet, and bang.
    Hope you dont mind me saying, you need a bit of work on your take offs.
    It's not just throttle and elevator until you're in the air.
    Slower acceleration will give much more time for corrections.
    Having said that, on a maiden you do want to get height quickly to settle it and trim it out.

  • @Mxbdt
    @Mxbdt Месяц назад +5

    That was bad. I'm glad nobody was in the pits. If you're going down behind the fly line, you gotta power down, not power up.

  • @alexrobertson1472
    @alexrobertson1472 Месяц назад +14

    Bloody hell, stick to trainers until you know how to setup and fly something like this, you could have killed someone.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +2

      Lol. Yeah so could have the expert pilot who flew his jet right in to the same fence 3 feet in front of me... Oh wait. No that's right he had a mechanical failure. Stuff happens man. Haha chill out. You must not have ever been around this stuff to know that anything can happen at any time despite the pilots expertise. ~Russ

  • @michaelspunich7273
    @michaelspunich7273 Месяц назад +6

    "I haven't crashed it yet, Elijah"...
    Three seconds later...
    You cursed yourself.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah as I watched back the video I realized that which was absolutely a curse. Hahaha
      ~Russ

  • @ponyboy5.0coyotewild63
    @ponyboy5.0coyotewild63 Месяц назад +10

    From the takeoff, I knew it was a disaster

  • @mikerubenhold1066
    @mikerubenhold1066 Месяц назад +3

    Never EVER put a plane in the air if your servos are glitching out like that. That was the first mistake. That sound of the engine changing rpm was not a fuel bubble, it was your throttle servo doing what all the other glitchy servos were doing. This could have bee prevented by a little more ground work and prep. Just lucky nobody was killed.

  • @emanuelmota7217
    @emanuelmota7217 Месяц назад +1

    That's why our field has a chain-link fence BETWEEN the picnic tables and the flight line.

  • @seanhurley8627
    @seanhurley8627 Месяц назад +7

    Are you banned from the field for crashing in the pits?

    • @michaelspunich7273
      @michaelspunich7273 Месяц назад

      Sometimes it happens

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +2

      No. Things like this happen in the hobby. In fact I was 3 ft from a large-scale jet that landed right next to me right near those benches. In fact it hits so hard it bent over that blue sign you see in my video. Things like this can happen.
      I had an experimental gyro setup on this airplane so I went out there when no one else was there just in case something would happen.
      If I'm doing something experimental I usually go out there with no one else is there. because stuff like this can happen to anyone. signal loss and other things happen.
      ~Russ

  • @AviatorJohn70
    @AviatorJohn70 Месяц назад

    Absolutely crazy! First off, you took off an airplane that you knew wasn't 100% ready to fly. You never even throttled back and you had more than enough time to do it. You're one dangerous guy for sure, you got extremely lucky.

  • @rccollin7699
    @rccollin7699 Месяц назад +9

    Right rudder for takeoff.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Yeah for sure. I was actually more worried about AirSpeed and getting the tail up rather than counter steering the torque roll.
      She got up fine though.
      ~Russ

  • @larryoakley
    @larryoakley Месяц назад +2

    I'm sorry for the crash, but the key lesson here: The radio telemetry signal was telling you from the very beginning about signal quality low / critical, on every single pass we can hear the alerts coming from the radio, that to me is a NO-NO. You should have landed that plane immediately and correct the issue... this crash could end 100 times more dangerous..

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver. You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does that when you connect the multi module like that. However I did set up fail safe and did a range check so all good there.
      ~Russ

    • @larryoakley
      @larryoakley Месяц назад

      @@RWGresearchLive right there you had a red flag, I wouldn't fly anything bigger than a park flyer plane with these multimodules (particularly not calibrated), on top of that, the fact that you are using a gas plane adds more risk factors because of the engine ignition circuit which deals with high voltage sparks, etc. That alone is also a very common cause of interference unless you have a robust Rx/Tx link....chances are that the glitch you were having (even with the plane on the ground) was produced by the engine ignition circuit interference and not the stabilization.. anyways... we have to respect this hobby and I'm glad that this crash only affected the plane itself and not other people's property and/or persons. Cheers

  • @4thGloryMonday
    @4thGloryMonday Месяц назад +1

    famous last words "i havnt crashed it yet" sorry 4 ur loss, ive felt the same pain and sure ill feel it again

  • @DenizCBR
    @DenizCBR Месяц назад +3

    Sad, i am really sorry 😢
    But why do you need a stabilizer?
    You must fly it well to learn how to tune it well. When you are flying well, why do you need a stabilizer then? Whoever tried stabilizers and tried to tune them well in our club, nearly all of them crashed badly...

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      It is an experiment.. It was going great right up in till it wasn't ;) ~Russ

    • @bernhardtheis5468
      @bernhardtheis5468 Месяц назад

      Stabilizers are a great help for pilots that like the extra piece of mind in windy days. They are not disign to improve you flying skeels. That said, I use an AR Smooth flight on my 70cc Laser and it does the job amazing. In my club everyone is using Cortex or AR on theyr turbine jets and all have grate results, Just don't trust your expensive plane to a low cost cheap stabilization system, better invest the money and get something reliable or dont use a gyro at all.

  • @emanuelmota7217
    @emanuelmota7217 Месяц назад +1

    Lucky for the pilot that no one was sitting at those tables.

  • @jarretblochlinger4201
    @jarretblochlinger4201 Месяц назад +2

    Wow your lucky you don't get kicked out of that club

  • @JordanColeman-r8w
    @JordanColeman-r8w Месяц назад

    People need to remember these are not "toy" airplanes and have a good amount of power pulling them thru the air. Glad no one got hurt, as bad as that sign got bent if it would of been a human standing their it could of ended their life. Also fail safes are very important and i have a feeling one was not set or set improperly as the motor reved as went down.

  • @RobR386
    @RobR386 Месяц назад +1

    You did the same as I did with my turbo timber, had all the signs indicating not to fly, but still did anyway, the result was an epic crash, except I was able to glue the plane back together and fly it the next day.
    Being a balsa plane, all the kings horses and all the kings men won't do much for that, it's totalled 😬

  • @blakjack3053
    @blakjack3053 Месяц назад +1

    Unfortune mishap, but yes, it could've been worse. A WHOLE LOT WORSE.

  • @vincentgattorno9751
    @vincentgattorno9751 Месяц назад +3

    The worst crash I have had... Not as I expected.. But you never know till you try... That is not the right response when you learning to fly. lucky you no-one was sitting on the bench. the next time my friend use a body box and be sure al the surface are in good shape before you fly another Rc plane.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Haha. Yeah. Stuff happens. The "you never know till you try" part was for adding a stabilizer using new methods... This method was not great... But it was better than what I had before. Got to learn some how man. Anything can happen even to the best of pilots.
      Thats why I test new things when know one else is @ the fly field.
      Play it safe and do my best to be safe.
      ~Russ

    • @stephenbrown3868
      @stephenbrown3868 Месяц назад

      @@RWGresearchLive Bad way to look at things. Learn to fly ahead of the plane. Your flying is jerky and uncoordinated. Yes things can happen to even the best of pilots, but they can handle the situations. Learn from them and don't get hurt. AND, get rid of that damn stabilizer and fly the plane.

  • @red7fifty
    @red7fifty Месяц назад +3

    Learn how to set up Giant Scale. You have to use the right hardware. GOOD servos, linkages, receiver power, the switch, etc. Proper set up and flight skills are a must. Lucky that no-one got hurt. When you don't have control, or it's not responding, you have to learn how the CUT the throttle.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Yeah. I agree. I did my due diligence. And as you can see from the beginning of this flight everything was going fine . Unfortunately anything can happen to even the best Pilots or best aircraft.
      Anytime I'm doing something new or unknown I tried to do it with no one else around so no one else gets hurt.
      Cheers
      ~Russ

  • @LoudandclearRC
    @LoudandclearRC 23 дня назад

    That plane may have destroyed itself from flutter because free play in the linkages. Also ditch the gyro and make sure everything is 100% on the next plane (gas or not). Thankfully nobody was hurt or killed from that gas powered lawn dart.

  • @anthonyromano6921
    @anthonyromano6921 Месяц назад

    Back in 1994 when I learned on a Tower 40 trainer. At the ripe old age of 8, the only sim
    We had was Dave Brown Flight Simulator and it was horrible lol. We also didn’t have gyros 🤣

  • @johnwhitsitt7571
    @johnwhitsitt7571 Месяц назад +11

    Best you stay with slow, light weight electric primary trainers. You could have killed somebody that day.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +4

      Yeah that's an option or you can get out there when no one else is around so no one gets hurt and do some experimentation push the limits and have some fun...
      By the way I was within 3 ft of somebody flying a large-scale jet straight into the fence right behind me in this exact location. Anything can happen... you just got to take the precautions be smart be safe and go have some fun. If you think a plane is going to crash don't fly around people . It's called common sense.
      And I used mine that day which is why I was out there by myself.
      ~Russ

  • @user-nunyabusinessgov
    @user-nunyabusinessgov Месяц назад +2

    Mom told me not to say anything if I didn't have anything nice to say. That's all I have to say about that!!!

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Haha my mom said the same thing lol cheers. ~Russ

  • @manuelordonez7331
    @manuelordonez7331 Месяц назад

    Glad there were no injured people😮

  • @mithrandir1313
    @mithrandir1313 Месяц назад +1

    Note To Self: When loss of control becomes compromised, don't turn towards Pit Area...

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Agreed. I could have tried to turn the other way. But as I knew no one else was there I just keep trying to get it to pull up! Good note to self for sure... ~Russ

  • @ual737ret
    @ual737ret Месяц назад +1

    Not for nothing, but I would never and have never attempted to fly any rc model if I had glitches like that. It just doesn’t make sense and is a crash waiting to happen.

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx Месяц назад +1

    I have a nitro that I re skinned a re adjusted. It has a nice OS.40fp which it came with. Engine fires up fine. control surfaces show no flutter, all checks out. My first flight I will buddy box it. This flight of yours looked dangerous. Yer lucky nobody got hurt.😳😳😳

  • @rickl6697
    @rickl6697 Месяц назад

    If it stopped responding it sounds like your battery in your plane or your transmitter died. Or the battery in your plane came unplugged or you had a tx or rx failure or a control linksge came off. Was a nice looking Corsair.

  • @crazyaces9586
    @crazyaces9586 Месяц назад +3

    Rf signal critical, would of made me land it or try too ! Bummer

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver.
      You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that
      there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does
      that unless you turn it off. i forgot to turn it off before the flight.
      However I did set up fail safe and did a range check so all good there.
      ~Russ

  • @johna.s.3847
    @johna.s.3847 Месяц назад +2

    SAFE is unsafe. It creates bad habits. Flight controllers are ok on your first flights with a trainer, then you must ween your self. Otherwise you will never learn proper rc skills, especially rudder on take off. Keep with it. Get a good trainer and practice. Especially take offs and landings when your ready. Good luck and great video.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah I can agree with that. It should be more for emergencies and to get started l. I can pilot an RC and do it all the time. However I knew going into it. That this set up was experimental.
      Hence know one @ the fiy field while I was testing ;)
      Cheers.
      ~Russ
      ~Russ

  • @lilgbz28
    @lilgbz28 Месяц назад

    Plans that size you don't put a stabilizer on it. Even my 650 800mm foamys I won't run one. Glad nobody was harmed. God bless and happy flying.

  • @PropplaneRC
    @PropplaneRC Месяц назад

    New title should be “how to make a ten thousand piece puzzle in under 5 seconds “ 😂

  • @andypiceno3283
    @andypiceno3283 Месяц назад +1

    Your dangerous dude!!!

  • @popsfereal
    @popsfereal Месяц назад

    15 seconds in I knew this was a Larry mission.

  • @jimg163
    @jimg163 Месяц назад +1

    Well, for your future gas airplane you must have enough distance from the receiver and engine ignition module. The radio was warning about critical RF signal and low RF signal. Unfortunate result; the model was flying well, once you heard the RF signal call outs, land and investigate. Good luck with your next model.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver. You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does that when you connect the multi module like that. However I did set up fail safe and did a range check so all good there. ~Russ

    • @jimg163
      @jimg163 Месяц назад +1

      @@RWGresearchLive ahh, understood, I have open resource FRSky, I understand. It seemed to have lockout at the critical time you were pulling up to save it. Hope you stay with it, your sin seems to like RC airplanes.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      ​@@jimg163yeah he flys with me a lot. He is a great pilot. We have lots of fun together. Cheers. ~Russ

  • @raythompson2936
    @raythompson2936 Месяц назад +2

    Well the take off was good, but the landing was a little ruff. Are you going to rebuild it?

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah take off wasn't too bad. I was more worried about getting the tail up and getting AirSpeed rather than going straight. which is why it kicks so hard to the left. My focus was not counter steering but instead airspeed.
      I have rebuilt alot airplanes that have been crashed pretty bad before. However this one just purely because of how many pieces it's in doesn't seem practical.
      Also because the motor hit the bench at full speed it bent the crank shaft and ripped off the carburetor so it's most likely not gonna fly again.
      Here is an example of another plane I fixed in the past. (On my main channel)
      ruclips.net/video/5H2O13F6pe4/видео.htmlsi=8cYO5zzim9g0ER0V
      And here is an interesting. You may like:
      ruclips.net/video/rNlZCme3pWM/видео.htmlsi=O-okkvPHwU5Epv07
      Although I do enjoy fixing Balsa of planes a lot of the foamies are a lot easier to fix.
      Cheers
      ~Russ

    • @stephenbrown3868
      @stephenbrown3868 Месяц назад +1

      Take off was terrible. If you cannot keep the aircraft on the centerline, you don't know how to use the rudder. That means you are just a bank and yank flier. Practice proper takeoffs and power control. "Just concerned about getting the tail up", is no excuse for not trying to control the aircraft. From his comments, he has no interest in advice or flying well.

    • @johnnichol9412
      @johnnichol9412 Месяц назад

      @@RWGresearchLive Tracking straight, gaining airspeed without thinking should be natural if you aren't a beginner. Get those two right and the tail will lift by itself.

  • @emanuelmota7217
    @emanuelmota7217 Месяц назад +1

    THere is no reason to have a gyro on a small plane like this. If you're a decent pilot you don't need a gyro.

    • @207fullsenders2
      @207fullsenders2 Месяц назад

      He did say he has little to no experience with gas powered planes so he does indeed need a gyro you know it all.

    • @emanuelmota7217
      @emanuelmota7217 Месяц назад +1

      @@207fullsenders2 If you knew anything about RC planes it's that THIS Corsair is NOT a beginner plane. There are lots of better planes to fly before this when you're a novice pilot. If you try to fly planes above your skill level you're almost guaranteed to crash and possibly hurt someone (as this guy would have if anyone was sitting at those tables). And - again - there is no need for gyrols an ANY rc plane, other than turbine jets.

  • @16-BITFPV
    @16-BITFPV Месяц назад +1

    Now we see why the idiot fence is there. Sometimes it gets used.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Lol. Yes. Anything can happen in this hobby.
      In fact a while back I had a large-scale jet fly right into that fence. I was standing 3 ft away along with my kid. It was in 1000's of pieces.
      Anything Can Happen. always be alert and aware of what's going on at the fly field!
      ~Russ

  • @Fladi1
    @Fladi1 Месяц назад

    Poor idi….., hope you get a new Hobby. Knitting is fine 👍🏻

  • @jimbo2629
    @jimbo2629 Месяц назад

    We’ve nearly all been through crashes and being over ambitious when learning. These days there are buddy boxes and simulators that help reduce casualties. Models do have to be perfectly set up. I prefer a simple transmitter and receiver. A beginners mistake is to fly downwind and get disorientated. Get an experienced friend to mentor you. If your model is artf then today you’ve only lost cash. All that concrete is not forgiving. If you have a complicated transmitter then set it up properly. Same for gyros. Long grass in the flying field helps bad landings. Scale models are usually the hardest to fly.

  • @isick357
    @isick357 Месяц назад

    Aww man that is so unfortunate. You jinxed yourself when you asked the kid if you had crashed yet lol. Are you considering building other gas airplanes?

  • @scottdearmond5532
    @scottdearmond5532 Месяц назад +1

    Bummer about the plane, why was the transmitter saying RX critical, I’ve never heard that before, when flying RC planes, always keep a trash bag in your back pocket for good luck 🍀, hopefully 🙏🏼 you won’t need it, but if you do ?

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver. You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does that when you connect the multi module like that. However I did set up fail safe and dis a range check so all good there. ~Russ

  • @mithrandir1313
    @mithrandir1313 Месяц назад +1

    "RF Signal Critical"... what was the cause of that? Scary!

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver. You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does that when you connect the multi module like that. However I did set up fail safe and did a range check so all good there.
      The cause was the gyro. They don't really like the vibrations from the gas motor... This was a test on a new mounting technique. Was working fine for the first part of the flight!
      ~Russ

    • @smokefathersbbq
      @smokefathersbbq Месяц назад

      @@RWGresearchLiveWas it a $20 gyro?

  • @Gig540
    @Gig540 Месяц назад

    I've used those flight controllers once before. I can fly fine but wanted to see how it felt. It was awful. It did all sorts of unecessary things. I honestly feel it's best to learn without these flying aids especially with the simulators out. At first I thought your control horn on the elevator came loose or got slack

  • @scottconnors7901
    @scottconnors7901 Месяц назад +1

    Loved that place, but it did have a bad spot to the west

  • @koalatails5711
    @koalatails5711 Месяц назад +1

    I read the signal telemetry wasn’t calculated correctly, so you ignored the warnings. Even though it went from “low” to “critical”, which means it was deteriorating.
    You demonstrated that the gyro wasn’t working properly on the ground, and claim that you can fly without a gyro. Then why did you constantly use the gyro?
    I’m amazed that your club allows visitors (your child) to be near the flight line, instead of behind the safety fence.

  • @joeygee86
    @joeygee86 Месяц назад

    Good spirit, buddy!! Ida shouted out. Lol Good way to not ruin the experience for anyone

  • @jongonegone1262
    @jongonegone1262 Месяц назад

    glitching servo means stay on ground and repair.

  • @hammertime964
    @hammertime964 Месяц назад

    Just fuel for thought for your next gasser… Never soft mount your stabilization system (gyro). Always mount it solidly to the airframe as close to the CG as possible. The gain on your gyro may also be turned up to high (too sensitive). That can also cause the shakes.
    Best wishes on your next bird. Looks like north Vegas flying field👍🏼

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah. So I actually had it mounted rigidly and it was completely unusable. So then I added a soft Mount which actually worked at extremely well unfortunately only under Full Throttle was it pretty stable. At Full Throttle it got a little wonky due to the refresh rate of the flight controller matching the vibration rate of the full rpm.
      And watching the video back it seems like I was going full power trying to pull up thinking more speed would help but actually I think it was upsetting the gyro even more.
      I kind of proved some of this out on the ground while I was testing.
      I actually had two settings on the gyro on a switch so I could play with high gain and low gain.
      It didn't seem like it mattered but the low gain was more stable from the vibrations.
      I went out there to do some experimentations with this type of Gyro with that type of isolation and there's the result.
      Lol
      Yes indeed it is the north Las Vegas flying field.
      ~Russ

    • @hammertime964
      @hammertime964 Месяц назад

      @@RWGresearchLive Wow Russ, seamed a little sketchy from the get go. Was a godsend that you and your son were there alone.
      Always, best wishes and many soft landings in the future,
      Chuck E (NFLhasbeen)

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад +1

      It wasn't great. But as you can see it was working ok at the start.
      But yeah. I can't learn new things if you don't try...
      And when you're all by yourself it's not a big deal if things crash.
      Pick my self back up and try again...
      Cheers
      ~Russ

  • @scottconnors7901
    @scottconnors7901 Месяц назад +1

    Looks like McCool field Vegas, my old flightspot

  • @tomewing4645
    @tomewing4645 Месяц назад

    Right rudder on take off will negate the P factor.

  • @axelmike9676
    @axelmike9676 Месяц назад +2

    Obviously for some reason you lost elevator not your fault, dont give up on gassers get you a Ultra Stick 30cc and put a 35cc DA, DLE, or Stinger. Trust me you will thank me later. You are a great pilot.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the encouragement. And yes. Anything can happen... But you can't learn if you don't try... And I sent it all in 100%
      Cheers
      ~Russ

    • @johnnichol9412
      @johnnichol9412 Месяц назад

      Based on the flutter at the beginning was it the cause of a control linkage failure?

  • @Grahame59
    @Grahame59 Месяц назад +1

    4:52 did it say 'Rf signal critical' or did I mishear? If so, that means you must land immediately. That may explain the loss of elevator control. Stabilser gain way too sensitive, would actually have been better with it. By the way it's not a lithium iron phosphate battery. It's Lithium Polymer. Better luck with your next model.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      You heard right. It did say that. I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver. You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does that when you connect the multi module like that.
      I did a range check everything is golden.
      The Gyros had multiple settings however because of the mounting at full RPM the gyro was upset. If I would have throttled back it probably would have responded fine because the vibrations at full RPM is the place where the Gyros was most upset.
      I tested that on the ground.
      And by the way it is a LiFe battery. As I said in the video. Go look it up. We typically don't use Lithium Polymer batteries as flight Control batteries in this scenario. The lithium iron phosphate batteries can be charged to full and left that way without damaging them and their nominal voltage is 3.2 volts per cell. So at nominal voltage we get about 6.4 volts with a two cell which is perfect for most receivers and servos.
      Lastly I set my fail failsafe up as well. Did everything by the book.
      However this was the first time I've used this type of stabilizer on a gas airplane and it was a questionable decision. It was actually going fairly well at lower RPM on the motor. if you watch the whole flight you'll see that it gets squirrely when I do full speed for Two reasons.
      1. The vibrations at that RPM upset the gyro even on the ground.
      2. Gain set too high potentially for that speed.
      Cheers
      ~Russ

    • @Grahame59
      @Grahame59 Месяц назад +1

      Apology re the battery.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      ​@@Grahame59all good my friend! ~Russ

  • @johnnichol9412
    @johnnichol9412 Месяц назад

    Control surfaces fluttering, that's because it's a gas model! I would go poor setup. The take off, well that was an indication that things not going to end well despite your protestations elsewhere about getting up speed and lifting the tail being more important than tracking straight.

  • @alwaysflying6540
    @alwaysflying6540 Месяц назад +1

    You, sir, are going to hurt someone. You never even cut the throttle

  • @user-dy5sb2fh7y
    @user-dy5sb2fh7y Месяц назад +1

    Very lucky no one else was there

  • @JohnVHRC
    @JohnVHRC Месяц назад +1

    Spectacular, subbed!

  • @jesusmelchor7681
    @jesusmelchor7681 Месяц назад +1

    That’s what they all say “won’t go up anymore” you said you haven’t crashed and you did 😂

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Haha i know. Could not be better timing for my call out lol ~Russ

  • @massimocicoria7591
    @massimocicoria7591 Месяц назад

    C'e' poco da ridere amico mio....con la velocita' in cui andava il modello , il peso e le dimensioni , avresti potuto uccidere qualcuno se fosse stato presente nel punto dello schianto.
    Ti consiglio di mettere un fail safe al comando del Gas , che in condizione di blocco del segnale RADIO , avrebbe almeno messo al minimo dei giri il motore.
    Saluti dall' italia....e mi raccomando la massima attenzione nel volo !

  • @timkoenig4471
    @timkoenig4471 Месяц назад

    That's why you never ever fly above the audience or prepare space... so sad!

  • @JordanColeman-r8w
    @JordanColeman-r8w Месяц назад

    "RF signal low" is your que to get the modle on the ground!!! Get rid of that spektrum garbage

  • @440centerline
    @440centerline Месяц назад +1

    I fly giant scale rc planes. Don't utilize telemetry/ stabilization. Good piloting skills are developed over time and enhance the RC flight experience

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      I agree with that. But even the best of pilots can make mistakes. Cheers
      ~Russ

    • @johnnichol9412
      @johnnichol9412 Месяц назад

      @@RWGresearchLive As can novices.

  • @darcy_does_it
    @darcy_does_it Месяц назад +1

    ohh my... quite the landing

  • @edwinsmith8203
    @edwinsmith8203 Месяц назад

    Something was wrong before you took off. Ailerons dont shake like that with gas engines. I only fly gas and dont see that on my Corsairs. You probably went into failsafe when it crashed, just speculating. My guess is you had the default which is hold last position. I also saw a LOT of elevator throw. That much is not necessary. Mine only has about 3/8" up/down. You can tell if you have too much elevator by doing a loop with full elevator applied. It will generally snap at some point in the loop. Seeing the jittering on the ailerons in flight is probably a result of the stabilizer trying to correct for the jitter we saw on the ground. Thats a signal to land immediately. I agree with an earlier comment, dont really need a stabilizer on a warbird. Thats just an opinion on my part.

  • @tonyvitiello9897
    @tonyvitiello9897 Месяц назад

    Why’d you turn left so soon on takeoff? Lol

  • @themountainbuggy
    @themountainbuggy Месяц назад +3

    Anyone who laughs like that when something happens like this, absolutely on the spectrum.

  • @rubberchickenaeronautics3643
    @rubberchickenaeronautics3643 Месяц назад +1

    What the actual hell guy. From taxi to crash this was SCREAMING at you that it shouldn't have been flown. You are giving this hobby a bad name. Shame on you. This was wildly irresponsible

  • @transon12312
    @transon12312 Месяц назад

    Never fly with shaking servo like that, And with Gas plane, you can never use Stablizer, totally fly with your skill

  • @user-qc8qv6ub4h
    @user-qc8qv6ub4h Месяц назад

    clickbait. that is not an airplane, it is a model airplane

  • @earthquakeveiwer
    @earthquakeveiwer Месяц назад

    Your radio said RF critical. Loss of radio signal caused your crash.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver. You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does that when you connect the multi module like that. However I did set up fail safe and do a range check so all good there. ~Russ

  • @Traxxbandit
    @Traxxbandit Месяц назад

    so what do you do for encores. how much survived the crash

  • @robertsnijders6182
    @robertsnijders6182 Месяц назад

    Don't fly in the sun........ Well for the next time anyway....

  • @payeur1
    @payeur1 Месяц назад +2

    Shit Happen :P

  • @zstanman482
    @zstanman482 Месяц назад

    You forgot to call out your landing. :)

  • @sadierun1795
    @sadierun1795 Месяц назад

    Should have never flown with your fluttering issue never fly unless everything is correct. Lucky no one was watching

  • @RC_Alaska
    @RC_Alaska Месяц назад +2

    Classic

  • @saito125
    @saito125 Месяц назад

    It may not have had much interference in your flight, but the control horns in the ailerons were installed way too far from the leading edges. You lose what is known as mechanical advantage. Better luck next time..

  • @joekrim6557
    @joekrim6557 23 дня назад

    So u admit several times of control surface malfunction yet fly it anyway and are lucky nobody got injured. Must feel embarrassed around the kid u bragged in front of

  • @johnmetcalfe9548
    @johnmetcalfe9548 15 дней назад

    what a kn-b

  • @57andyp
    @57andyp Месяц назад +1

    RF signal Critical

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      I'm using a multi-module transmitter with a spectrum receiver. You have to calibrate the RF signal otherwise it will constantly yell at you that there's an RF signal critical. I did not calibrate the RF so it always does that when you connect the multi module like that. However I did set up fail safe and dis a range check so all good there. ~Russ

  • @kwain8888
    @kwain8888 Месяц назад

    All the negative comments, smh. Hate people and grumpy old men who think they know everything about everything. I recognize the field in vegas. It probably was 118° and that's why no one was going to be there. I myself have gone out on days like this to do experimental flying. I lost an F4 (lost signal) and ended up by the street on a day like this. I've seen several people hit the pits on busy days. I have done the walk of shame on several projects there. Does your kid fly, too? I take my 12 year old every sunday to fly here (well when its not miserably hot). 😅

  • @jerrylast4461
    @jerrylast4461 Месяц назад +1

    you have control surfaces fluttering before you take off and you fly anyway? not very smart, you are dangerous.

  • @Adirondacks4me
    @Adirondacks4me Месяц назад +1

    Yikes..

  • @richardmountz3865
    @richardmountz3865 Месяц назад

    Dumb thumbs, maybe. But what are they connected to? Your use of rudder made no sense.

    • @johnnichol9412
      @johnnichol9412 Месяц назад

      Lack of use of rudder is what you mean.

  • @artadventure9702
    @artadventure9702 Месяц назад +1

    Kamikaze 😂

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Unintentional but yeah strangely enough the most fragile part of the airplane which is the canopy was completely intact and totally fine... Lol
      ~Russ

  • @mickbroad9973
    @mickbroad9973 29 дней назад

    Sorry for you loss but your attitude was wrong from the start. You had known issue but ignored it. You had incorrectly set up warnings , strike two what were you thinking. And if you need stabalization on a plane you shouldnt be flying it yet, get a buddy to fly it and sort out the trim then once its sorted add the stab
    All your doing is creating bad press for the safe quality pilots out there . Learn from your mistakes and get some help. Your child could easerly have been sitting where that crashed.

  • @swede5209
    @swede5209 Месяц назад

    Your club is going to need to start charging a damage deposit

  • @stevedawson3863
    @stevedawson3863 Месяц назад

    How did that aircraft end up behind you? Always keep the aircraft in front of you.

  • @mickeypittman2623
    @mickeypittman2623 Месяц назад

    I wish that you wouldn't have flown that airplane, something is telling me that you would be dangerous to all in the hobby,,

  • @Yo-mz6gx
    @Yo-mz6gx Месяц назад

    sadly

  • @TheDreyfly
    @TheDreyfly Месяц назад

    🙈🙈🙈

  • @conbonesthevoid1448
    @conbonesthevoid1448 Месяц назад

    never use cheap flight controlers on models you like. thank the lord nobody was there.

    • @RWGresearchLive
      @RWGresearchLive  Месяц назад

      Yeah totally. This one was the first one I did and it was kind of an experiment which is why I went over there when no one was around. just in case something like this happened I take this hobby and safety seriously. I've had other people actually fly airplanes into the crowd at this exact location. one jet going full speed almost hit me by about 3 ft. It turned into more pieces than what mine did it's the only other airplane I've seen destroyed worse than this in this exact location.
      ~Russ

    • @conbonesthevoid1448
      @conbonesthevoid1448 Месяц назад

      ​@@RWGresearchLive i know accidents happen. i had a 700 helli that did a rain dance on the ground and slung a piece of blade into the crowd and gave a man 7 stitches on his wrist. Shit happens. I was just stating as a viewer thank god nobody was there with nothing against you. i will say i am convinced that flight controller/gyro is the cause of your loss of control.