Making Wide Whitewalls for the ratrod
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- This was a little scary but fun. Nice to make something like this yourself..
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By the looks of the comments, this video just hit everyone's recommended section
indeed
Yep
I'm here from the future. Indeed, it has hit our recommended section, too.
Yea why
Even when I've finished work 15 hours fitting tyres all day and RUclips puts this in my recommendation and I watched it 😕 I don't know what's worse?
It worked out great! I drove it with those tires on it for a year, then switched to 16" spokes, but still got 'em. Figure they'd work nice on another project or might even use 'em on a trailer to haul behind this thing. We'll see...
Nice
Hahaha, my dad walked by while I was watching this and he heard "That just looks honkin'" and he said that phrase teleported him back 40 years.
Those ALRAY DUSTER tires were worth a thousand bucks each!
SoyBoySigh h
NEW yes but not when they are old
gtfo 😨😀
+John deer that's what your mom said.
@@RazzRG nice 2012 comeback...
This video has such a strong message. It changed my life
Realy?
I actually think you should keep the whitewalls rough. It really goes well with the rat rod look.
Love the car and the old Cadillac 331. Also love the old school tire modification. You're freaking out the young and the billet guys.
Ain't no cool like old cool.. hahaha.. Thanks neighbor..
Really love this project. Don’t listen to all these people saying bad things because this is YOURS and it’s great
Thank you Hayden..
Back in the day they used to use a lathe type contraption to cut the white walls with on car lots. I would take a steel bar and sharpen the end then use a 4x4 or something up close to the tire and cut those edges just perfect. Make sure your bar is long enough so you have plenty of leverage and so the tire can't take it out of your hand. They used to use a roller machine, they would jack up the car and put these powered rollers under the tire so it wouldn't get going so fast. I used to know a couple of guys who did this as a mobile service in the 60's and 70's. Then after they did the groove they would touch it up with a little tire white. They came out perfect and only took about 10 to 15 minutes to do a whole car for 25 bucks. They made good dough when whitewalls were in vogue. Eventually, raised white letters and black walls took over and those businesses went under. I wonder if a guy could make a few bucks at car shows doing this now day?
That would be cool...
This wouldnt damage the wheel. The carbon black sides arent necessary to the wheels structure its solely for looks. Scraping off the thin layer of carbon black on the side is harmless, digging into the white however is dangerous. This person obviously took great caution in how he sanded it making it totally safe.
Please stop commenting its unsafe, it really isnt.
Thanks Kornel..
Yankee ingenuity. You keep pushing my button - LOL. When I was in HS about 1951 I worked in a tire recapping shop. The steam heated tread matrixes would turn the white wall yellow. On of my jobs was take a white rubber buffing wheel and make the whites white again. And this was before radial tires. Boss put these recaps on dirt track racing cars (i.e '34 Ford Coupes) and none ever came off. Whole lot cheaper to recap - $10-12 back then.
I don't know how much I like the idea of taking away from the structural integrity of the tires but if you feel comfortable with it then more power to you.
AMC Rambler..!!! I had one four door sedan (66) I love it..
Torino 380 in Argentina.
So theres white on the inside of the tire i never know that
Not all tires, just the ones that have white walls or white letters.
Natural color of rubber is white. Black is added to the rubber during the vulcanization process. White rubber is less resistant to chemicals and sunlight. The black pigments actually help to stabilize and preserve.
Dirt Rusty i though they were so they dont get nasty and like the old old cars from the 1900s
JT 1200 just leave your tyres as they are for the love of god lol paint them with white plastidip or something if you must but nothing else
White rubbers cheaper to make but unlike black rubber it melts under high heat, like literally turns to goo
this is awesome everything about what a rat rods supposed to be. artistic and creative without going around and buying someone elses idea. badass video. badass car.
Man, I must say, you did a fantastic job on those tires!!!! Absolutely love how they turned out. When I start my RatRod build, I'm putting white walls on mine.
Woo Hoo! Thank You!
i love the license plate patches too!!!
Thanks David.
All the people saying this will kill the man, go take a look at how old the video is. Dude is still around, and with a more badass car than your 98 Camry, so leave the safety warnings to professionals and enjoy yourself for a bit. People have been doing this pretty much since cars were invented, don't see why we should worry now
Lol
Shut your clown ass up
Correct. Thank you.. Some folks panic and loose control when confronted with old school ways. That's why they make Prius's..
Yeah, good old times, when it was considered normal that dozens of Men die building a Skyscraper.
Or death in an 20 mph accident because there were no fancy seat-belts.
Who needs those modern safety standards, right?
I hope you don't kill an innocent family with your rolling death trap.
@@rpeek you should do this to another set of cheaper tyres then do a burnout to show them how they pop haha
That coke trunk lid is bad ass.. one of the coolest custom memorabilia ive seen in a while
Super cool!!! Looks wayyyyy better as a white wall!!
Wow I would feel like I was skinning a bomb. To me you are weakening a pressure vessel, good luck.
would be cheaper to buy white walls than your wife having to buy a casket
The belting/ply is the structure of a tyre, not the rubber. The outer rubber of a sidewall is only really cosmetic other than to protect the ply. Now if you were to try it on an inner tube you might be onto something...
I still have some porter walls...
rpeek goodness I just take some spray paint duct tape and touch it up...
I ain't trying to blow it on the way to work
Everett Leonard well the casket is a forseen expense so if you buy one you've bought all you'll ever need
People just don't really realize how thin that black coating is fml nice job brother I like this idea
Thank You countryguywithcamera .
Why fml? Don't you figure your life's better than that?
Even better with a vintage hot rod... Yep, I figure my life's just right with it.
The rubber that he is removing is only extra rubber that the tire manufacturer puts on the tire in order to do their graphics, such as thin white walls or white lettering. This is the most effective and simple way to remove that extra black rubber that I have seen to date. Thanks
People do this all the time looks good gotta love these keyboard professional s
Oh yes.. haha.. Keyboard professionals. Good one.
Would that make the side walls of the tire really thin and weak?
That is how the whitewalls are put on at the factory. Except they don't use a hand held grinder to do them. But they do grind away the blackwall to expose the whitewall. Red stripes were made the same way. Raised lettering or stripes have the raised color vulcanized onto the completed tire then the required lines or lettering is cut or ground to get the look they are after.
Jim Jordan tire rubber is white. they put black pigment on the tires
Jim Jordan
LMAO that is not even close to how factory whitewall tires were / are made. wagil90 is right.
In the early days the rubber was white, and carbon was added for the black color, except on the sidewalls, which were left white.
These days the strips are added after the tire is made via a specialized machine.
Coca cola trunk lid, Cadillac engine, If you do a paint job on this car you will ruin it, pure class the way it is....
This comment is approved by me! hahaha.. I couldn't agree more!
Especially that sheet metal patch done with license plates.
Rpeek that ghosteider clown has no clue man. I've followed your videos for quite sometime and your anything but lazy your one of the most resourceful people on RUclips. Thankyou for sharing with the rest of us.
I know nothing but I know grinding off the sidewall on tire is anything but a step in the right direction Watching you do it especially while the car was on and running in gear with the tire wizzing away like that was hella fun!
Sure was..
Yes, lets remove 1/3rd of the sidewall... Just don't hit any pot holes or even drive the car.
1/3 this tires so old and thick that was 1/1000 of the tire. I would be more worried about dry rot instead
The carbon black on the sides of wheels is extremely thin because its not neccessary to its structural strength in any way. The carbon black side is just for looks.
@@kornelcajka5320 it's actually a protective coating so it dosnt crack or rip from the heat but if he didn't remove a lot it dosnt affect it much they much just not last as long
Been doing this for 15 years, only removing a few thousands of an inch, that white is not even necessary except for the lettering, not weakening anything. Lotta 12 second blasts on ALL of the ones I've done, never even had one go flat or leak, just plain wore them to hell........................PS, do not try this unless you have a really good OSHA approved respirator, or emphezyma will result pretty quickly F.Y.I. portable machines were made way back in the day to do just this thing, & can still be found at flee markets, garage sales, auctions, lotta people don't know what they even are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its a rat rod not a daily driver. Lmao im 19 but i can definetly see how big of pussies other men are
wouldnt it be easier to paint it white ?
Sure, but it would chip and crack and fall off in a short time.. Besides, why would I do something just because it's easier. If I wanted it to be easier I'd buy a hot rod kit car, put a small block Chevy and automatic transmission and some off the shelf wheels. Yawning...
@@rpeek haha, drop a 572 big block chevy engine in it
@@rpeek I like the way you think sir. Too few people share the appreciation of doing something the long way, for the fun/hell of it.
painting is definitely safer than grinding the sides. i would rather lose some paint than lives.
rpeek plasti dip,rubber paint. Safer to. Want dangerous? Get a norton frame ,triumph engine and forget to fit any drum brakes.
that is the coolest trunk lid i have seen on a rat rod
Noticed the rambler in the back from videos before trying to stuff a 350 in my 66 American as well all your videos I've seen have been helpful in bringing my American nightmare to life thank you
I worked for Goodyear for many years. Your not wrong that the whitewall might stop at some point but in general the "white layer" stops before the steel belt and before the steel in the bead. However, the size tire makes a big difference! Cutting down a raised white letter tire, take this into consideration. White rubber cost more so it is very limited as to how much is built into the tire. And it is usually pretty thin. So be very careful!!
I was just reading thru the comments to make sure someone hadn't already said this. I worked at the Michelin/bfgoodrich plant in my home town for many years. Theres many misconceptions on here about how tired are made, it's kinda funny reading.
All rubber is white until they chemically turn it black it's weaker than black rubber though.
@@ReidHenderson only the original rubber was that pure white color like that. The new rubber that gets used isnt the same and is why white wall tires are so expensive these days. Im pretty sure the only reason this works is because the lettering was made as a layer behind the front layer that got grinded off, then the factory essentially dis tge same thing here and etched/grinded the letters into the top layer. Hopefully the 2 above can confirm/deny this
I restore and collect cars. I live in Chattanooga and know Corky. Be careful. Some of the wide white wall tires are only for show. They are very soft rubber and not made for driving any amount of distance on. They DO sell regular ones, but very pricey. Just make sure, when you buy used, which ones they are.
I did the same thing to a set of tires about 5 years ago I loved them except for one that I messed up but I still road on them for a long time if I'm not mistaken I think my brother still has 2 of them . Good work bro let the haters hate
Thank you Jeff....
You have the most interesting videos I have seen in a long time, found you looking for banjo lessons and been watching and enjoying the many other videos you have posted. Thanks!
Thanks Dan. I appreciate you stoppin' by. I never understood why so many people watch my stuff. All I do is what I do, but somehow people do come and visit and I'm always happy to have the company. Thanks for watchin'..
Rubber is white. You are actually sanding off the black.
I Came Here Just To Say That You Beat Me To It :)
so it doesn't affect tire strength?
It Affects The Tires Durability And Yes Pretty Much Because The Black Is Protection.
Hey old school, I remember watching this video when it was new and I just checked back in on it I was curious if they held up? BTW dig your Rat and your ..Rambler ?
Thanks Jimmy. The tires are doing just fine. I gave the Rambler to my son. He's painted it in flames and is still having fun with it. His youtube channel is ruclips.net/user/dhswpea Take care..
I did this to my brand new BFGoodrich Radial T/A's like 6 years ago, drove it to hell and back and the tires have held up like normal unmolested tires
I tried it on my tyres with 1/2" white stripe, it works real good. Now i got 2 " ww on them. Thanks for the tip!
The angle grinder is my favorite tool for sure. You can cut, grind, or shape anything
That's so cool
Thank You!
Are you gonna sell the car once it's done
George Beal No, not unless someone is willing to part with more money than a sane person would..
Your such a good youtuber you reply your videos are great and that's what people want a man like you
debatable, but kinda cool
I like that the white wall bring out the color of your rim.
Nice rat rod bro doing a restore myself keep rollin keep the old school spirit alive!!
Thank You.
rpeek welcome
People complaint about stretch tires but grinding a sidewall tire is worst than stretching it.
But this looks good and goes with the car
These tires are about 2-3 inches thick on the walls taking off a millimeter isnt doing shit
All those 660 dislikes are from alray for covering their brand
Yep, sure are... hahaha..
I don't care what the haters say old timer, that is awesome man!
one of the coolest rat rods ive seen! Great post.
Looks good till you’re going down the highway and they fail out the sides. Hope your life insurance is paid up for you’re old lady.
michael reed you’re not serious right?
I don’t think insurance would apply on this ratrod... it’s illegal and outdated car! Insurance would say “ *Hell no!* “ your ratrod is customed all the way and there is nothing to sue at somebody.. but yourself cause your the one build this :/
Bro the black part is pretty thin so it's fine
@@thatchevydude1234 don't you know, everyone's an engineer/race car driver/rally driver/crew chief/engineer/brain surgeon/Greek god/astronaut/master chef/master baiter/ASE certified lube tech in the comment section?
I would just paint it white its much easyer.
Easier to just drive a Prius too..
Looks like crap the way he did
Then you'll have to constantly repaint the white...
Craig Voclain you might, but we know you haven’t, or you’d understand how long paint lasts on a rubber tire that constantly flexes and get scrubbed on curbs, about 2 weeks or 100 miles whichever occurs first.
Jax Turner. I happen to have overspray on my tires thinking that it will just wear off but it didnt i ended up driving for over a year with orange tires. It doesnt wear off as fast as you would think.
what an awesome machine! very unique and just cool lol. those cadilac rocker covers are the business. I'm a fan
Thanks. Them ain't just rocker covers. That there is a real 1953 Cadillac 331.. Yessir it is.
bad ass ride!! if they dont look perfect that just makes it all the more special and better!
yeah lets destroy the sidewall of my ancient tires with a grinder on my car with little to no suspension. great idea. why not some white paint?
Welp I've had to cut plenty of tires and I've noticed the black outside part of the wall cannot damage the structural integrity of the tire
These are thick af tires, if there was going to be any issues, they would have been there from the lettering(which was also just ground down like this but more precisely)
at a whopping 7 seconds: "These are old tires..."
everyone go home. that how they did it back then. no one knows how to be nice anymore. sad really.
Couldn't agree more. Thank you.
It does look good
Thank YOu..
Well not really. Back in the day the just didnt add the black pigment to the sides. Thats because the pigment/carbon just kept the tires strong while hot and keep together better. But since it was so expensive to add the carbon to the rubber, they just used it on the treads and added regular rubber which happened to be white on the walls. I do think this looks good and can vouch for the integrity of the tire. Firstly those are really thick tires so shaving off a single layer of rubber doesnt hurt, secondly that layer has nothing to do with the integrity of the tire, because it was just used to cover the white wall behind it so the letters could be put in as negative space
Good stuff..
I kept waiting for the tire to blow and see you go flying across the garage....you never cease to amaze me :-)
My boy has that now. He's paintin' it up real nice..
You should put a disclaimer informing people how much you’ve jeopardized your safety by grinding the sidewall of a tire thinner.
Disclaimer: I've jeopardized my safety by grinding the sidewall thinner. Don't try this at home.. This ain't for sissies... If you want safety, they sell new Priuses every day... Have fun you car crazed suicide machine drivers and may you live long and prosper.
Don't let the liberals get you down brother! Libtards are scared of there own shadow
@@timpickens498 I don't understand why you brought politics into someone's stupid comment?
@@emenesu this video is 7 years old... I think if the tires were gonna kill him they'd have done it about 6 years and 9 months ago
He literally shaved it down less the a centimeter that won’t compromise a tire like this it’s not like it’s going to be holding a lot of weight the car it’s self probably weighs less than 3,000 pounds worry about yourself and your safe boring ass life buddy let the professionals have fun
highly illegal in civilised countries.
+Dick Richman So are guns, but I got some of them too. Here in America we live on the edge...
+rpeek Yeh and kids get shot in school, don't put the US model forward as an ideal the US is a broken society.
+Dick Richman No it's not, but if all you know of America is what you see on the news I can see how it looks that way. We have a wonderful life here... Best ever.. It's a big country, but news shows can't make any money showing how friends help friends and people love each other.. Just sayin'..
So its legal in your country??
@@leogilbert9515 its completely legal in any country its not ruining the integrity, its essentially taking a layer of paint off to expose the primer. The actual wall of the tire hasnt been touched yet
i can almost smell that rubber burning from here
my old boss had a machine from the 50s that grooved tires and then they applied the white wall paint thats how it was done i also applied white letters for a few customers and sanded down the raised lettering first so they would apply flat and they actually turned out nice...Nice work too
I did that. I put a little white paint on top after I scuffed it down to brighten the color..
Those are some cool wheels! Green looks good on any Rat Rod!
You, sir, have earned yourself a subscriber. This is an excellent way to carry on the rat rod style, and low budget at that. Obviously, these people commenting don't realize that this isn't a daily driver, and are severely over analyzing the fact that it's not going to be used as such. Great work on the tires, and thank you for the informative video. I'll keep this in mind for my rod when I get further towards completion. It'll look good on my old 48 ford
Thank You.
I've known about this trick for a couple decades now. Usually turns out nice.
You know your in good hands when the first name for tire brands is Mickey Thompson :)
Thanks for showing this. You did a good job on car and video.
Ken
Just like what you said, at the end, about it being scary. You’ve got brass balls.
Life's too short to be skeered...
I love all the OTHER crazy car nuts like myself!!
FINALLY! I've been waiting for you to get some whitewalls! Makes HUGE difference!
Honestly this is some of the coolest and old school stuff I have seen , you should be proud man great job
You just earned yourself another subscriber, sir! You have a lot of videos, I'm going to be watching them for hours, my friend!
Absolutely true. I got them off there soon as I could. Out of round so bad you couldn't make 'em stop bouncin'.
That is one badass ratrod keep up the good work 🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍
Thank you so much!
The green wheels are awesome!
Doesn't need to be perfect on a Rat Rod. I like it !!!
Thank You!
way to tackle a theory. thats the way ya do it. love the car.
Looks great and I like that tire and wheel combo.
@the1onlyteagro I use Windows Movie Maker, although when I made this video, I might have still been using Sony Vegas..
you would be the coolest grandpa ever
Geez ya funny bugger!! Nah, good onya mate, that's the old school hot rodder attitude right there! screw polishing the shit out of everything and then being too scared to drive it - I'm in Australia and love nothing better than going sideways down dirt roads like a loon! And I gotta say, your whitewalls really do look the part.. I knew a guy many years ago that did the same thing one night pissed as a maggot by doing burnouts with his sidewalls against a kerb!
More hot rod videos after this storm passes! Stay safe my man. The RUclips gods have chosen you.
Thank you Zerk..
good job from what i hear thats an old hot rodders trick done back in the 50's-60's on hot rods and one bit of history tire makers makes most tires with the rubber over the whitewall as a cheaper solution for tires so the consumer dont have to pay a bunch of money for tires but thats the way to get the whitewalls back and no worries the rubber is so thick you wont bust a tire theres several layers in a tire including the whitewall layer
THATS COOL Never heard of doing that before Looks Great
Awesome job and cool video!i just bought my dad a 54 ford crestline and ive been wanting to throw wide whites on it for him.ive only got one arm so im sure the process will be a lil more challenging but well c how it goes and hopefully i dont destroy the tire doing it!lol...good job brother and cool lookin rat you got there!
Interesting. I've got a '55 Ford Country Squire with wide whites on it. You can find it in my videos. It might give you an idea how his would look with 'em on it. Just a thought. Good luck with it. You can do it with one arm.. Sure you can..
That came out pretty darn cool
Thank you CJ
I see comments saying you will lose strength of the tire. This is untrue. Unless you plan on exceeding the rating of the tire. All of the strength of the tire is in the belts. All he did was remove about 1/8 inch of rubber covering the white rubber put in just to get raised letters. I think it was a great experiment.
Thank you...
well it looks killer so have fun driving it!
Old Guys may rule, but it's the young cats that's going to decide what happens to these cars when we all croak over, so here's to ya Young Cat! Rock On!
The smell in that garage, must have been great during that mod :P
Genius! I will be doing this very soon.
It did turn out nice. Thanks for watchin'.
That's one cool looking white wall and cool technique...you don't want it looking perfect for a rat rod anyways
You're a classic man RPeek
Thank you Red.
sweet, I bet they turned out pretty slick
Awesome rod, amazing windshield, great 'ex-coca-cola cooler door' trunk lid, and noticed the hot-rod patch panels aka used license plate in the wheelhouse!
Awesome rod man!
I love this video and your general attitude towards the project itself. Great job man!
Looks like this video churned up every single tire expert in existence. People who get the dealership to refill their wiper fluid are complaining about safety. You asshairs dont realize he removed a layer the thickness of a sheet of paper whos only purpose is to be a background for the white letters. Looks great btw keep it up
Thank you Maggs..
Congrats Mr Peek this video hit a million vid mark. WOOHOO!!!
Woo Hoo! Who'd of thunk it.
'It's not a Rambler baby, it's a Rumbler.'. Hehe, cool plate. Makes me think of the Rumblur.
thats an awesome looking hot rod!!
This is a really entertaining video considering it's from the 2010's