Hmmm.....maybe some predictions for the series based off of the sneak peeks we've been given or just what you'd like to see in the show once it comes out?
A speculation on how the 2 shows will connect ounce Hazbin comes out, the levels in witch the 2 stories effect echother and possible cameos from curtain characters.
Yes thank you. Finally someone brings up Nephilim. I hope we get to see some of them in the show. I have a theory that maybe some of the exterminators are Nephilim and so wear the masks to hide thus fact.
@@emanuelbaigorria3932 Well, she's half angel, as her father is an angel and still possesses his angelic power. Vivziepop also said once that both Lucifer and Charlie have wings, in Lucifer's case confirming that he still has his angelic wings.
@@leebulger7112 Well it's a possibility, it would depend on whether or not she has seen her father's wings, which seems unlikely. And it would further depend on whether or not she's been in a situation where she needed them.
I've heard of different versions of Lilith's legend, one of which claimed she was genuinely independent of Adam. Like the virgin Mary, she could give birth to her children without a partner. Accosting her with snakes which were seen to be more common with demons. Another claimed out of spite toward Eve and Adam she spread pestilence to infants, ergo, why lullabies exist. In another legend, she was said to have somehow tricked and violated Adam and had some of his children out of spite. My particularly favorite legend of Lilith is the one where she was not banished from the garden, instead, she left of her own volition. But I can see how Lilith and Eve are the same people. Less we forget Lucifer was a name satanic cult called the angel Samiel.
The name Lucifer actually came from Roman mythology, it was what they called Eosphoros, the God of Venus the Morning Star, which is why Lucifer is known as the Morning Star. Lucifer, meaning Light Bringer, was also a title used by several other deities, such as Diana, Luna, Trivia, Apollo and Vulcan. The version of Lilith I am most familiar with is that she was banished from Eden because she refused to be seen as lesser than Adam, and she went on to become the Queen of the Night and Mother of Demons.
That's really interesting the myth that I am familiar with Lilith didn't want to submit to Adam during their marriage or reproduction so Adam tells god this/makes a complaint which gets her kicked out. Eventually she meets Adam and Eves son cain and begins a romantic relationship with him....kinda awkward dating your ex's son but I guess weirder things have happened in Christianity
@@LewisRJHope the snake in the garden was originally just a snake, later attributed to Lucifer But yeah Lucifer is called lightbringer for good reasons. Bringing enlightenment via that fruit of knowledge
@@piffny6666 yeah basically Lilith wanted equality and rights, which adam didn't like so god cast her out and made a new human from his rib, rather than dirt like adam so she would be forced to be subservient I actually have an interesting theory/headcanon here too, which is wasn't a rib but a baculum aka penile bone. Almost all mammals use these, but humans don't have one. They look like ribs too. And it fights very thematically too tbh
I think being the first Humans gave Lillith and Adam a massive power advantages when compared to normal people. Given that Adam rules above a group of presumably powerful angles, it can be argued that the first humans might have been more powerful than most angles, gradually decreasing in power as the generations went on.
They were made in God's image so the potential to be like God was there but before the fall the most known thing is the immortality. So above angel's is questionable.
@@arpandey698 Adam has been "reincarnated" if thats the right word as an Archangel if some leaks are to be believed. Lucifer being one of the original angels and considered God's favorite his power is speculative but probably greater than Adam and based on how the series is going Archangels are probably the most powerful. As for Lilith it's presumed Lucifer turned her or she became a demon somehow as she's able to conceive children something sinners are denied, and considering she's second to Lucifer in terms of power she's above the other fallen angels some of which could include archangels. However Charlie is a special case being the child of both Archangel and The Original Demon if we take Lilith's age into account she's probably more powerful than her mother but has never taken an interest in raising her power not to mention she's technically the Antichrist so who knows.
I'm the Bible Adam and Eve were genetically perfect beings since they were both directly created by God. They lived to be over 900 years old and their kids were able to breed with each other without issues since there weren't any defective genes at the time to be passed down. Lilith being a super sinner isn't entirely out of the question here.
I'm begging they keep Lucifer as an irredeemable villain and Adam could be a third party at first just hating all demons especially Lucifer and his ex then have him meet Charlie and realize that some can be redeemed but still have that hate for Luci.
I think the angels are the villains when it comes to the show I mean imagine there was an exterminator that killed vaggie or angel dust or even alastor
This is the first time seeing Charlie is about to go full evil mode when someone crossed the line and make her snap. Also geting a feeling that we will see a new trailer very soon. It’s time to unleash the good side of Hell. Time to redeem sinners!
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You know, your Hazbin/Helluva lore videos have helped me figure out where I want to take my fanfic. I thank you for all of this information I might’ve otherwise missed.
Adding Adam is going to be interesting, since he's definitely into music, I picture him more as a Bard rather than a commander of Heaven, interesting that he has a Lieutenant named Lute, Though if Vivzie did add Eve into the narrative of Hazbin it'd be neat to see how She and Lilith would play off each other.
I am certainly hoping Lilith turns out to have been with Adam first since that would be a nice little twist as well as would add to the dynamic between Adam and Lucifer.😊 Also, I appreciate you flashing Sir Pentious in the video whenever bringing up the snake in the Garden of Eden.😊😂
@@dhararry7929 because with so many version and contradiction this religion has its not a bad idea to do this, considering people are already giving the show slack for not following the schematics and "canon" of the actual Bible
The version of Lilith I'm familiar with is where she didn't want to listen to God so she left the garden which made Adam sad but it didn't mention anything of him being upset with her he was just sad that they didn't end up together.
Given its hell political power and personal strength are most likely one in the same. Alastor is the most feared overlord despite not controlling any major industries, and Sir Pentheus's inventions don't seem to even come close to the raw power of other overlords. Lillith, being the first ever sinner and the one who ultimately corrupted humanity, likely has some sort of special statues that allows her to surpass all the 7 dead sins besides Lucifer.
Honestly the idea of Both Eve and Lilith being separate would be cool as it would probably make things complicated when eve finds out Adam has a wife before her and would wonder why she was made
I only hope that angel's won't be villain's in the story. I mean, you can make some angel's as the villian's just don't make every single one as "evil" for sake of being evil. I hope to see Lucifers interaction with his family, and them missing him, characther development, some angel's actually liking and supporting Chariles idea and such
If your theory is correct Charlie's whole redemption project is literally her trying to give her own family a better life since Lilith is the mother of all humans this would make all humans and sinners her half brothers and sisters.
I love the idea of lilith and lucifer getting together after falling in love and possibly coming up with the plot to tempt Adam and eve to eat from the tree - I imagine Adam treated lilith pretty badly and Luci was having none of that Either is IS the snake from the tree of knowledge or he sent the snake around his hat (in a more terrifying from that it's wormy looking self in the pics) to do the job - just my thoughts
What if her human name is Eve and her fallen name is Lillith? Like how angel dust is probably not actually angel dust and same with cherry bomb It seems like they take on an entirely new identity in hell
my version of death in the hazbin hotel it's three brothers of death. One death in the living realm, wearing a black outfit, death in heaven, wearing a white and gold outfit, and finally death in hell, who wears a red bloody outfit and the one that the series will focus on. I wrote my version of death. Death in hell can seem intimidating and dangerous, especially to those who die in hell, but basically his character is a tired dude of his job for all eternity and he is not the antagonist at all. He has no friends and he is jealous of his brothers, although death on living realm is no less work, at least he has fun on Christmas with ghost friends, because he is also the the ghost of the Christmas's future, and death in heaven generally rests, almost does not work at all, only for very rare accidents in heaven. My Death in Hell based on hades's character. He is relatable, he wants switch places with Death in heaven at least one year. He doesn't believe in Charlie's ideas but he wants her to teach sinners the value of life in hell, so he has less work to do.
I like it because it adds depth to the characters that you don’t see often because they’re always depicted as evil characters but what if there are not but are in fact characters who are following their own ideas that goes against the main stream what if Lilith and Adam did produce children and that Lilith Just get tired of living by gods rules and when she met Lucifer, who is free spirit and did whatever he felt like, and was instantly fascinated by him that she broke the rules, and was cast out of the garden of Eden, with Adam being so furious that he had god create a new wife for him and erased all knowledge that Lilith ever produce children with him and that instead it was always eve that would be an interesting twist,
You know, I just realized that in the scene where that demon woman is pulling the curtains and looking out into hell, I thought there were only two individuals with her,but their was actually three individuals.Did anyone else notice that.
Lilith was egal to Adam. She was made like him, with the clay of life. Eve was made from Adam's rib, making her submissibe to him. They are not the same
After learning about the lore behind Lilith I think she deserves to go to heaven. If she wants. I feel so bad for her. She got screwed over. All because she wanted to be her own boss.
If Lilith was kicked out of paradise before the fruit thing then what if she sits among all the horrors of hell because she doesn't know good from evil and is just fine with whatever?
Neat thing from the holy book Lilith is mentioned once, and their name is constantly translated as night demon or screech owl. Lilith may be an owl or connected to owls, which is interesting considering the owl demons in hell like the Geotia
Luke 16:26: "And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us."
@@Featheryfaith7 Everyone can but does everyone want to? Hell is a separation from God... and if people desire things that isnt from God they rather not be with God.... Hell was created for only the fallen angels and demons, and the devil himself to perish but people choose to serve the devil including some without knowing it because there is two sides not a middle.
The story of Adam's first wife is that while Adam was awake G-d took his side to create a woman. She was not fully formed and because of the bl--d Adam was repulsed and so G-d put him to sleep and created Eve. Some scholars argue Eve was created separately, basically G-d started all over, some argue that He simply finished what He already started. Either way, the whole "Lilith was an equal that refused to be subservient" is a new narrative, not a passed down before Genesis take. It's from a satirical work in the Middle Ages.
I think Lucifer might've been forced to comply with the extermination because God wanted to destroy all sinners entirely. In the show's lore, we know heaven is corrupt, and I don't remember seeing an exact reason Lucifer was banished from heaven beyond 'because of his pride'. I think he was banished for impregnating Lilith, and he allows the extermination as a deal to keep his father away from Charlie. I might be wrong, but it's an interesting headcanon I've had for a while
I'm sorry your sick, make sure you take some vitamin c, some soup or toast, cough syrup or drops, that should help. I don't know much about Lilith's backstory, we're just gonna have to wait till the entire story of Lilith once the show is ready. I don't know if Lilith will get a redesign or not, if she isn't then that means Viv likes her just the way she's drawn, but if she is then it may take some time to find the right scenery like where she's at, what dress she's wearing, where is her wedding ring gonna be located like her left or right hand, is her horns gonna stay the same, is she going to have a snake with her or not. We're just gonna have to be patient, see you next time Deep Cut hope you get better.
I keep this weird habit of falling in LOVE with a topic and diving in deep to the point where nothing is left. Then I'll say "okay, let's wait until there's updates. Like... months so wet can deep dive into it again" and I'm looking for a great place to find them and this was a big help.
Hazbin won't make me question my religion at all. It helps that the show's message, under all that crass humor and pop culture demonic stuff, is that people deserve a second chance to become better, which is one of the fundamental messages of Christianity.
@@natethegreat7967 Yes, the show is ultimately about how even if you have no chance of getting into heaven, creating heaven starts with controlling your vices.
I believe Lucifer was the serpent, giving knowledge to Eve represented through the apple, helping her realize she didn’t have to be below Adam. Making her not want to bow to him, becoming Lillith and joining Satan in hell. He wasn’t tricking her, he was freeing her.
@@Featheryfaith7 Charlie is stronger than Alastor as wel, also there’s no proof he causes “bad luck” he just has a larger amount of demonic power compared to other demons. And you do realize that over lords aren’t really suffering that much in hell, right? People fear them and they have power and land.
Awesome video man,but why am I even saying that? At this point it becomed obvious that you always do an amazing job, 0:35 and dont worry, your angelic voice cannot leave your awesome demonic body! ( Sorry if it's a little too exaggerated I just love your work so much! )
I imagine this perspective. Similar to the most popular line of thinking, Lilith was made before eve, and refused to be subservient to Adam. However, she was not kicked out of the garden, instead separated from Adam and Eve and watched over by Samael. Samael grew to love her and the two became corrupted, Samael for giving in to sin, and Lilith after Samael taught her of sin, which she enjoyed. After this, I imagine Samael used the form of the snake to trick eve and Adam, and god cast out both Samael and Lilith to hell for their treachery. There, Samael fell and became the fallen archangel, Lucifer, while Lilith stood beside him as his queen. They would use the remaining power they had to form the greatest hierarchical figures in the form of the princess and the first arz goetia. After that, they allowed hell to do as it would without much interruption. I don't believe that Lucifer and Adam would be working together, and instead, Lucifer is keeping him in check, making sure he doesn't push his boundaries. If vivzie were to ever make a big reveal of the royals, I would have adama attack the hotel with the intention of killing the child of his ex and the man who deceived them, and in the process, Lilith or Lucifer shows up to protect Charlie. If Lilith, I could see angel having a gaga moment and Alastair being most respectful, while Lucifer would get a boatload of bows. Only reason Alastair would be nice is cause those two could annihilate him, unlike most others.
I have a theory that Lilith and Lucifer are the same person. Lucifer is the sin of pride. That would include the sinful love of himself. Making Charlie a vain image of himself. Twisted but an idea.
When my literature teacher discussed The Garden of Eden with my class and me she actually said something that I found very interesting: Lucifer manipulated Adam and Eve into eating the forbidden fruit , because he wanted to show God that his creations were imperfect and that they could be corrupted
According to some sources, Lillith originated as the goddess Ishtar (iirc, correct me if wrong) and was adapted to early Jewish mythology as cultures interacted
I heard that Lilith was created with Adam but she didn't want to be submissive to him so Adam told about it to God, god talked with Lilith about it but She refused to be submissive so she wanted to leave but god told her if She will leave, many of her days will die daily and She did leave And god does kill her kids lately
I always thought that Lilith was the goddess of the black moon at night! I know it's just a cartoon but sometimes I like to call her Lily! But I don't think she does like nicknames and it's like when she gave her daughter Charlie the name princess Charlotte! The truth is I named one of my cats Lilith after the black moon goddess! In fact I named all of my kittens after the Moon because they say cats are creatures of the night! 🌙
I think they could be doing what the show Lucifer did with their Lucifer and make Samael and Lucifer the same person and Lucifer being the name he gave himself after he was casted out of heaven and if you think about it would make some sense why Lilith is with Lucifer
I mean Lucifer before he became the lord of hell was named samael the light bringer and the angel of good and evil (the most human angel in my opinion) so I can see connections to the Apple
My theory was that as God's strongest Angel, it doesn't surprise me that he would have Lucifer govern Hell to bring the Light to the sinners and his fall from heaven was a lie created to scare people and keep them from sinning but as time when on and more people committed sins, Hell become overcrowded. Lucifer then organised the exterminations with his siblings (the angels) because there were too many sinners to govern since he couldn't spread them out to the other levels of Hell. I also had the theory that the Angel's weapons killed a sinner in Hell but instead of it destroying the soul it kind of forced them to reincarnate and gets them sent back to Earth.
When sinners die their souls are absorbed into the environment, that's why inanimate objects sometimes have eyes on them. Vivziepop stated this a while ago I think.
I thought about something that I thought was interesting but probably far fetched. I read about how there is a biblical character called Alastor and he is sorta the Christian version of Nemesis from Greek mythology. Nemesis was a punisher of evil and a dangerous protector of justice. I was looking at the similarities between the two characters and Alastor in “A day in the Life of Alastor” he protects someone and kills the butcher along with saying that he didn’t like people who preyed on those who were of fairer means. Possibly meaning children and women judging by the time period he was born in and the character. I think he could represent the Alastor from the Bible, again it is a theory and I probably went way out of the park with this.
Also Adam transgressed not sinned so he is not actually a demon of any form. The difference between a transgression and a sin is one still requires repentance but will not land you in heck unless you continued to follow it after you knew it was wrong. Adam's transgression was necessary for the continuation of the eternal plan and so he is not held fully accountable for his mistake in the garden being that he didn't really know better being he had never made a wrong choice up to that point and had been given instructions to multiply and replenish the earth ( something that was impossible in the garden ) after his transgression he and Eve spent the rest of his and her prolonged life trying to make up and follow gods command.
from a the video from 5 months back titled "The Different Species, Histories and Hierarchy of the Ars Goetia! Helluva Boss Breakdown & Analysis" provided so that I dunno it might be read because I wrote this today only to find out that the video was five months old and was likely never going to be seen. So interestingly as a member of a christian religion I have never actually watched the show but as a small fun fact from the King James version of the Bible, Lucifer and Satan are actually the exact same person as the devil himself despite the fact that the show seems to imply them as separate entity from what I have gathered. Throughout the bible these names are both mentioned but not as people or spirits or whatever you would call essentially the creator evil in the world, as separate entity . What they are usually called is based on the speakers preference either way meaning the creator of evil. I am by no means an expert on my religion, however this is what I have been taught since a young age. With this said I would encourage ( not force ) you to read a bible at some point if you want to learn more about biblical threats or even just find hope ( If you know were to look. Not all parts are hopeful most are or can be when taken in the right context ). Some reading material I would suggest if you choose to accept my invitation is the King James version of the bible and the Book of Mormon both of which are fairly easy to find and are available to the public. You can also comment under this comment if you would like a more detailed explanation on a specific part or creature in any of the above mentioned texts ( may take a while but I will respond as quickly as possible ). Anyway thought this would be an interesting mention. Also you can make fun of or argue with me or my claims all you want but I will not care ( I have likely heard it or even called myself it at some point, ah to not be clinically depressed, but ah well ).
I am still a wild rogue who is still believe in Christianity but since this is an alternate world apparel, well I don’t need to worry about that but everybody else should keep that in mind and maybe eve doesn’t have an art concept yet because maybe she’ll show up at season two because first off There has been subhuman species before I even the goliath who is half human half angel. He was killed by a throw a stone by human a full blooded human that said the human was on the side of true God he’s just one of many Subhumans Goliath, so the sex demons being well Subhumans makes sense to some degree. There’s also the Neanderthals, which are separate sub species of humans there’s even a deadly sin called Darwin, the deadly sin of stupidity, believing in science more than religion scientific belief of humans came from the monkeys and apes, and not of God is one of the other circles of hell what time concent is not really in this universe per se, but maybe it does exist in the pride reign somewhere in its nine circles but who knows that concept may not be executed, but concern does RUclips video. It might be a chance. That was the only way I could see them to be explored and has been hotel or hell of a boss or is the actual explored the other circles in the pride ring, and for all we know city of the Devils in the ring of wrath maybe one of those nine circles in each of the seven deadly sins while we don’t know while I do admit, that would basically mean Hella of a boss might actually expand that floor better, and has been hotel if they were to explore the pride ring more as like different circles in the pride ring like we can probably see Lulu world in Hasbún hotel and wonderland. The biological place of them wildlife animals in hell exist may be as a second season or season three because I’m not really sure of the stand up associates. We don’t know how many they are so please give her patience. Also, maybe there isn’t a design for. Eve yet because him either Lilith is one of the same person or like with Lucifer and Satan, they’re technically two separate beings how that works. I don’t know, but it could be worth exploring, or explaining it in season two maybe three as some of the answers finally get answered for the final season of the show since we don’t know how popular the show will be, but if the show is done get enough popularity it might get four or five seasons basically one or two more though I’m gonna keep that expectation the minimum since I’m gonna have to watch that on RUclips because not everybody can have a lot of accounts so it’s only a suggestion point
I know this may be not the best idea here. But what if charlie is the equivalent of eve. Considering in the opening she was cast away from a side she wants to be but because of her parents she was deemed also sinful. Not only that but lilith is distant from charlie...maybe luci isnt the dad everyone thought?
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Will we get more redesigns
Can you go over what streaming platform it will go on because i am esstatic and cant wait to know
Hmmm.....maybe some predictions for the series based off of the sneak peeks we've been given or just what you'd like to see in the show once it comes out?
A speculation on how the 2 shows will connect ounce Hazbin comes out, the levels in witch the 2 stories effect echother and possible cameos from curtain characters.
Because Charlie's mother is technically a sinner, and her father is a fallen angel, that may make Charlie a corrupted Nephilim.
Yes thank you. Finally someone brings up Nephilim. I hope we get to see some of them in the show. I have a theory that maybe some of the exterminators are Nephilim and so wear the masks to hide thus fact.
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Well, she's half angel, as her father is an angel and still possesses his angelic power.
Vivziepop also said once that both Lucifer and Charlie have wings, in Lucifer's case confirming that he still has his angelic wings.
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@@LewisRJHope I have a question. Do you think Charlie know she has wings and can fly?
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Well it's a possibility, it would depend on whether or not she has seen her father's wings, which seems unlikely.
And it would further depend on whether or not she's been in a situation where she needed them.
I've heard of different versions of Lilith's legend, one of which claimed she was genuinely independent of Adam. Like the virgin Mary, she could give birth to her children without a partner. Accosting her with snakes which were seen to be more common with demons. Another claimed out of spite toward Eve and Adam she spread pestilence to infants, ergo, why lullabies exist. In another legend, she was said to have somehow tricked and violated Adam and had some of his children out of spite. My particularly favorite legend of Lilith is the one where she was not banished from the garden, instead, she left of her own volition. But I can see how Lilith and Eve are the same people. Less we forget Lucifer was a name satanic cult called the angel Samiel.
The name Lucifer actually came from Roman mythology, it was what they called Eosphoros, the God of Venus the Morning Star, which is why Lucifer is known as the Morning Star.
Lucifer, meaning Light Bringer, was also a title used by several other deities, such as Diana, Luna, Trivia, Apollo and Vulcan.
The version of Lilith I am most familiar with is that she was banished from Eden because she refused to be seen as lesser than Adam, and she went on to become the Queen of the Night and Mother of Demons.
That's really interesting the myth that I am familiar with Lilith didn't want to submit to Adam during their marriage or reproduction so Adam tells god this/makes a complaint which gets her kicked out. Eventually she meets Adam and Eves son cain and begins a romantic relationship with him....kinda awkward dating your ex's son but I guess weirder things have happened in Christianity
@@LewisRJHope the snake in the garden was originally just a snake, later attributed to Lucifer
But yeah Lucifer is called lightbringer for good reasons. Bringing enlightenment via that fruit of knowledge
@@piffny6666 yeah basically Lilith wanted equality and rights, which adam didn't like so god cast her out and made a new human from his rib, rather than dirt like adam so she would be forced to be subservient
I actually have an interesting theory/headcanon here too, which is wasn't a rib but a baculum aka penile bone. Almost all mammals use these, but humans don't have one. They look like ribs too. And it fights very thematically too tbh
@@WolfgangDoW great fact
I think being the first Humans gave Lillith and Adam a massive power advantages when compared to normal people. Given that Adam rules above a group of presumably powerful angles, it can be argued that the first humans might have been more powerful than most angles, gradually decreasing in power as the generations went on.
They were made in God's image so the potential to be like God was there but before the fall the most known thing is the immortality. So above angel's is questionable.
@@ShacoAlon Adam is above the exterminators and Lillth is on the same level as the half angel Charlie.
@@arpandey698 Adam has been "reincarnated" if thats the right word as an Archangel if some leaks are to be believed. Lucifer being one of the original angels and considered God's favorite his power is speculative but probably greater than Adam and based on how the series is going Archangels are probably the most powerful.
As for Lilith it's presumed Lucifer turned her or she became a demon somehow as she's able to conceive children something sinners are denied, and considering she's second to Lucifer in terms of power she's above the other fallen angels some of which could include archangels.
However Charlie is a special case being the child of both Archangel and The Original Demon if we take Lilith's age into account she's probably more powerful than her mother but has never taken an interest in raising her power not to mention she's technically the Antichrist so who knows.
I'm the Bible Adam and Eve were genetically perfect beings since they were both directly created by God. They lived to be over 900 years old and their kids were able to breed with each other without issues since there weren't any defective genes at the time to be passed down. Lilith being a super sinner isn't entirely out of the question here.
@@kevinruppert3522 Super Sinner lol
I'm begging they keep Lucifer as an irredeemable villain and Adam could be a third party at first just hating all demons especially Lucifer and his ex then have him meet Charlie and realize that some can be redeemed but still have that hate for Luci.
Doubtful but interesting.
I think the angels are the villains when it comes to the show I mean imagine there was an exterminator that killed vaggie or angel dust or even alastor
@@Randomguyedits4235 eh.. but still you really think that the embodiment of evil is going to be good?
@@asaknight321 Have you seen how God works? Check some of the background stuff in the cherub commercial
@@Randomguyedits4235 Well killing any main cast member is a sure fire way to brand a villian.
Personally i hope that Eve and Lilith are two separate characters. Having two conflicting power couples could be an interesting dynamic.
I feel there will be an Eve, but Adam keeps her out of the picture because he wants the spotlight to himself
@@demonprincess9680interesting
@@demonprincess9680 Maybe they just work at different factions.
This is the first time seeing Charlie is about to go full evil mode when someone crossed the line and make her snap.
Also geting a feeling that we will see a new trailer very soon. It’s time to unleash the good side of Hell. Time to redeem sinners!
just gonna forget that time she threw hands with killjoy?
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You know, your Hazbin/Helluva lore videos have helped me figure out where I want to take my fanfic. I thank you for all of this information I might’ve otherwise missed.
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Adding Adam is going to be interesting, since he's definitely into music, I picture him more as a Bard rather than a commander of Heaven, interesting that he has a Lieutenant named Lute, Though if Vivzie did add Eve into the narrative of Hazbin it'd be neat to see how She and Lilith would play off each other.
I am certainly hoping Lilith turns out to have been with Adam first since that would be a nice little twist as well as would add to the dynamic between Adam and Lucifer.😊
Also, I appreciate you flashing Sir Pentious in the video whenever bringing up the snake in the Garden of Eden.😊😂
I mean, considering how much HH/HB pulls from real-world religion, it wouldn't really be a twist.
I think it's possible eve and Lilith are the same person with eve changing their name for some plot related reason
That would be cool
@@dhararry7929 'Cuz it's fun
It would be Rose Quartz is Pink Diamond all over again. 😵💫
@@dhararry7929 because with so many version and contradiction this religion has its not a bad idea to do this, considering people are already giving the show slack for not following the schematics and "canon" of the actual Bible
@@Featheryfaith7 exactly. ...edit almost almost exactly.
The version of Lilith I'm familiar with is where she didn't want to listen to God so she left the garden which made Adam sad but it didn't mention anything of him being upset with her he was just sad that they didn't end up together.
Given its hell political power and personal strength are most likely one in the same. Alastor is the most feared overlord despite not controlling any major industries, and Sir Pentheus's inventions don't seem to even come close to the raw power of other overlords. Lillith, being the first ever sinner and the one who ultimately corrupted humanity, likely has some sort of special statues that allows her to surpass all the 7 dead sins besides Lucifer.
Honestly the idea of Both Eve and Lilith being separate would be cool as it would probably make things complicated when eve finds out Adam has a wife before her and would wonder why she was made
I only hope that angel's won't be villain's in the story. I mean, you can make some angel's as the villian's just don't make every single one as "evil" for sake of being evil. I hope to see Lucifers interaction with his family, and them missing him, characther development, some angel's actually liking and supporting Chariles idea and such
If your theory is correct Charlie's whole redemption project is literally her trying to give her own family a better life since Lilith is the mother of all humans this would make all humans and sinners her half brothers and sisters.
I love the idea of lilith and lucifer getting together after falling in love and possibly coming up with the plot to tempt Adam and eve to eat from the tree - I imagine Adam treated lilith pretty badly and Luci was having none of that
Either is IS the snake from the tree of knowledge or he sent the snake around his hat (in a more terrifying from that it's wormy looking self in the pics) to do the job - just my thoughts
What if her human name is Eve and her fallen name is Lillith? Like how angel dust is probably not actually angel dust and same with cherry bomb
It seems like they take on an entirely new identity in hell
Angel's real name is Anthony. Angel Dust is just his stage name
After seeing Puss In Boots The Last Wish I now want to see what The Grim Reaper would look like in the Hazbin Hotel Universe💀
Aww like head hellhound or something to symbolize the chase after death life follows 🥺
Well in this universe it would probably the angel of death, aka the one in exodus
1:09 the deer with the skull and blue flame to the the right of alaster is death
@@izzieb.2926 Death was literally Death. The angel of death only represents death, he is not it, Death is an abstraction.
my version of death in the hazbin hotel it's three brothers of death. One death in the living realm, wearing a black outfit, death in heaven, wearing a white and gold outfit, and finally death in hell, who wears a red bloody outfit and the one that the series will focus on. I wrote my version of death. Death in hell can seem intimidating and dangerous, especially to those who die in hell, but basically his character is a tired dude of his job for all eternity and he is not the antagonist at all. He has no friends and he is jealous of his brothers, although death on living realm is no less work, at least he has fun on Christmas with ghost friends, because he is also the the ghost of the Christmas's future, and death in heaven generally rests, almost does not work at all, only for very rare accidents in heaven. My Death in Hell based on hades's character. He is relatable, he wants switch places with Death in heaven at least one year. He doesn't believe in Charlie's ideas but he wants her to teach sinners the value of life in hell, so he has less work to do.
I like it because it adds depth to the characters that you don’t see often because they’re always depicted as evil characters but what if there are not but are in fact characters who are following their own ideas that goes against the main stream what if Lilith and Adam did produce children and that Lilith Just get tired of living by gods rules and when she met Lucifer, who is free spirit and did whatever he felt like, and was instantly fascinated by him that she broke the rules, and was cast out of the garden of Eden, with Adam being so furious that he had god create a new wife for him and erased all knowledge that Lilith ever produce children with him and that instead it was always eve that would be an interesting twist,
Actually that sounds so much cooler then the ones I heard of.
You know, I just realized that in the scene where that demon woman is pulling the curtains and looking out into hell, I thought there were only two individuals with her,but their was actually three individuals.Did anyone else notice that.
Lilith was egal to Adam. She was made like him, with the clay of life.
Eve was made from Adam's rib, making her submissibe to him.
They are not the same
I've read that Lilith used to be married to Asmodeus, in some texts. Kind of interesting.
I heard Lilith got married to all the 7 kings of Hell.
After learning about the lore behind Lilith I think she deserves to go to heaven. If she wants. I feel so bad for her. She got screwed over. All because she wanted to be her own boss.
If Lilith was kicked out of paradise before the fruit thing then what if she sits among all the horrors of hell because she doesn't know good from evil and is just fine with whatever?
Neat thing from the holy book
Lilith is mentioned once, and their name is constantly translated as night demon or screech owl.
Lilith may be an owl or connected to owls, which is interesting considering the owl demons in hell like the Geotia
Luke 16:26: "And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us."
Charlie: "We'll see about that." 😈🌈🔥❤
@@Featheryfaith7 Everyone can but does everyone want to? Hell is a separation from God... and if people desire things that isnt from God they rather not be with God.... Hell was created for only the fallen angels and demons, and the devil himself to perish but people choose to serve the devil including some without knowing it because there is two sides not a middle.
The story of Adam's first wife is that while Adam was awake G-d took his side to create a woman. She was not fully formed and because of the bl--d Adam was repulsed and so G-d put him to sleep and created Eve. Some scholars argue Eve was created separately, basically G-d started all over, some argue that He simply finished what He already started.
Either way, the whole "Lilith was an equal that refused to be subservient" is a new narrative, not a passed down before Genesis take. It's from a satirical work in the Middle Ages.
right, as a Jewish person i approve of this.
How is this a new narrative
I think Lucifer might've been forced to comply with the extermination because God wanted to destroy all sinners entirely. In the show's lore, we know heaven is corrupt, and I don't remember seeing an exact reason Lucifer was banished from heaven beyond 'because of his pride'. I think he was banished for impregnating Lilith, and he allows the extermination as a deal to keep his father away from Charlie. I might be wrong, but it's an interesting headcanon I've had for a while
I really hope that lucifer and lilith have a relationship similar to morticia and gomez Adams omggggg that would be a amazing
This theory does have the wild implication of all the sinners being Charlie's half siblings and makes her relationship with vagie a little you know
There is only a problem if you take it literally I think 🤔.
@@leebulger7112 ya it just something to think about
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 You know whether through creation or evolution we're all related to each other regardless if you go far back enough.
@@leebulger7112 ya the classic old saying
Another variation is that Eve and Lilith could be ex-best friends, angry cousins or even sisters . The possibilities are endless.
I'm sorry your sick, make sure you take some vitamin c, some soup or toast, cough syrup or drops, that should help.
I don't know much about Lilith's backstory, we're just gonna have to wait till the entire story of Lilith once the show is ready.
I don't know if Lilith will get a redesign or not, if she isn't then that means Viv likes her just the way she's drawn, but if she is then it may take some time to find the right scenery
like where she's at, what dress she's wearing, where is her wedding ring gonna be located like her left or right hand, is her horns gonna stay the same, is she going to have a snake with her or not.
We're just gonna have to be patient, see you next time Deep Cut hope you get better.
Feel better deepcut
being sick sucks!
@@CartoonUniverse I agree
@@CartoonUniverse I know how you feel. I'm sick myself 😷
I keep this weird habit of falling in LOVE with a topic and diving in deep to the point where nothing is left. Then I'll say "okay, let's wait until there's updates. Like... months so wet can deep dive into it again" and I'm looking for a great place to find them and this was a big help.
Ironically, my name is Lilith, named after the after the Adam, Lilith and Eve story.
Lilith wasn’t kicked out of Eden, she left. And indeed, Lucifer and Satan are not the same entities
Bro this show is gonna make me question my entire religion and I'm gonna love every second of it lol.
Hazbin won't make me question my religion at all.
It helps that the show's message, under all that crass humor and pop culture demonic stuff, is that people deserve a second chance to become better, which is one of the fundamental messages of Christianity.
@@natethegreat7967 I meant that as a joke in all honesty but you're knida cutting deep my dude I'll admit.
@@natethegreat7967 Yes, the show is ultimately about how even if you have no chance of getting into heaven, creating heaven starts with controlling your vices.
I believe Lucifer was the serpent, giving knowledge to Eve represented through the apple, helping her realize she didn’t have to be below Adam. Making her not want to bow to him, becoming Lillith and joining Satan in hell. He wasn’t tricking her, he was freeing her.
@@Featheryfaith7 Lilith is "stuck" in Hell but she is a queen and equal partner Lucifer.
@@Featheryfaith7 she’s no longer enslaved to Adam and god, not to mention Lucifer actually respects her
@@Featheryfaith7 Alastor is nowhere near as strong as Lillith, and that’s only mainly for the normal sinners, everyone else just exists there
@@Featheryfaith7 Lucifer is an angel. He would OBLITERATE Alastor,
@@Featheryfaith7 Charlie is stronger than Alastor as wel, also there’s no proof he causes “bad luck” he just has a larger amount of demonic power compared to other demons. And you do realize that over lords aren’t really suffering that much in hell, right? People fear them and they have power and land.
Awesome video man,but why am I even saying that? At this point it becomed obvious that you always do an amazing job, 0:35 and dont worry, your angelic voice cannot leave your awesome demonic body!
( Sorry if it's a little too exaggerated I just love your work so much! )
7:37
Well even If Vivziepop is switching up
the Lore, She can do what she want’s,
It’s her Series, So it’s her choice!
What about Eve?
I bet dollars to donuts at some point Adam will say "luccyyyyy you old snake" in a faked friendly tone
I imagine this perspective.
Similar to the most popular line of thinking, Lilith was made before eve, and refused to be subservient to Adam. However, she was not kicked out of the garden, instead separated from Adam and Eve and watched over by Samael. Samael grew to love her and the two became corrupted, Samael for giving in to sin, and Lilith after Samael taught her of sin, which she enjoyed. After this, I imagine Samael used the form of the snake to trick eve and Adam, and god cast out both Samael and Lilith to hell for their treachery. There, Samael fell and became the fallen archangel, Lucifer, while Lilith stood beside him as his queen. They would use the remaining power they had to form the greatest hierarchical figures in the form of the princess and the first arz goetia. After that, they allowed hell to do as it would without much interruption.
I don't believe that Lucifer and Adam would be working together, and instead, Lucifer is keeping him in check, making sure he doesn't push his boundaries. If vivzie were to ever make a big reveal of the royals, I would have adama attack the hotel with the intention of killing the child of his ex and the man who deceived them, and in the process, Lilith or Lucifer shows up to protect Charlie. If Lilith, I could see angel having a gaga moment and Alastair being most respectful, while Lucifer would get a boatload of bows. Only reason Alastair would be nice is cause those two could annihilate him, unlike most others.
Oh, I hadn’t even thought of Adam’s past relationship with Lilith if they’ll explore that in Hazbin Hotel.
wow this summer. when i graduate high school. The pilot came out in my freshman year, ive been a fan if it my entire high school career XD
I have a theory that Lilith and Lucifer are the same person. Lucifer is the sin of pride. That would include the sinful love of himself. Making Charlie a vain image of himself.
Twisted but an idea.
In the old testament the serpent is proven to be Lilith. Lilith grew jealous because she couldn't be with adam like eve was.
I imagine Charley is super strong but hides her power and Mabe i5 will show when her friends are in danger
Lucifer's nightmare: Jesus destroys him and All the demons never to corrupt god's world again
Who would win in a fight between Valentina and husk
I love Hazbin Hotel 😍
When theorists have better ideas than the creator.
The show ain't even out yet but ok lol
When my literature teacher discussed The Garden of Eden with my class and me she actually said something that I found very interesting:
Lucifer manipulated Adam and Eve into eating the forbidden fruit , because he wanted to show God that his creations were imperfect and that they could be corrupted
Lilith Morningstar - Starting on February 28, 2023.
Or maybe Valentine Day
@@Mirartium736 Seriously??
@@TheShveyn04 Yeah. Why not? Lilith is succub
when are we ever going to get cain, abel, and seth?
I love lilith she's just a strong woman not wanting to listen to NARCISSISTIC EGOTISTICAL MEN! She got damned cause she didnt follow both their orders
I heard there's going to be on adult swim
According to some sources, Lillith originated as the goddess Ishtar (iirc, correct me if wrong) and was adapted to early Jewish mythology as cultures interacted
I love this hope you feel better
I support the theory that Adam's wife is Eve and that Lilith is more like an ex.
I heard that Lilith was created with Adam but she didn't want to be submissive to him so Adam told about it to God, god talked with Lilith about it but She refused to be submissive so she wanted to leave but god told her if She will leave, many of her days will die daily and She did leave And god does kill her kids lately
Fun fact Venus use to be called Lucifer
Get well soon
Imagine if Charly falls in love with Adam I can't wait for this telenovela ending.
ône thing that would be cool is if the snake is some sort of pet to lucifer
I always thought that Lilith was the goddess of the black moon at night! I know it's just a cartoon but sometimes I like to call her Lily! But I don't think she does like nicknames and it's like when she gave her daughter Charlie the name princess Charlotte! The truth is I named one of my cats Lilith after the black moon goddess! In fact I named all of my kittens after the Moon because they say cats are creatures of the night! 🌙
Idk why I find it funny that I got and Adam and Eve (the adult toys website) for this video...
Oohoho This is good theories
good for lilith
Like #55 😌 I've never felt more proud of my speed
However is hazbin going on a streaming sight instead of yt?
I wonder if they haven't shown any updates on her because she's being retconned somehow.
I think they could be doing what the show Lucifer did with their Lucifer and make Samael and Lucifer the same person and Lucifer being the name he gave himself after he was casted out of heaven and if you think about it would make some sense why Lilith is with Lucifer
In other bibles, Adam and Lilith were made of clay by god.
I mean Lucifer before he became the lord of hell was named samael the light bringer and the angel of good and evil (the most human angel in my opinion) so I can see connections to the Apple
Cant wait for this and also samael and lucifer are the same except samael is the jewish version
Eait if Adam and Lilith are soo damned dangerous how dangerous are their direct descendents, Cain and Able?
Basically Lucifer's waifus
My theory was that as God's strongest Angel, it doesn't surprise me that he would have Lucifer govern Hell to bring the Light to the sinners and his fall from heaven was a lie created to scare people and keep them from sinning but as time when on and more people committed sins, Hell become overcrowded.
Lucifer then organised the exterminations with his siblings (the angels) because there were too many sinners to govern since he couldn't spread them out to the other levels of Hell. I also had the theory that the Angel's weapons killed a sinner in Hell but instead of it destroying the soul it kind of forced them to reincarnate and gets them sent back to Earth.
When sinners die their souls are absorbed into the environment, that's why inanimate objects sometimes have eyes on them.
Vivziepop stated this a while ago I think.
I thought about something that I thought was interesting but probably far fetched. I read about how there is a biblical character called Alastor and he is sorta the Christian version of Nemesis from Greek mythology. Nemesis was a punisher of evil and a dangerous protector of justice. I was looking at the similarities between the two characters and Alastor in “A day in the Life of Alastor” he protects someone and kills the butcher along with saying that he didn’t like people who preyed on those who were of fairer means. Possibly meaning children and women judging by the time period he was born in and the character. I think he could represent the Alastor from the Bible, again it is a theory and I probably went way out of the park with this.
You know its going to be a good video when cartoon universe post
If demons are not fallen angels where do demons come from
7:29 why am i just now realizing charlie’s ears are missing
Also Adam transgressed not sinned so he is not actually a demon of any form. The difference between a transgression and a sin is one still requires repentance but will not land you in heck unless you continued to follow it after you knew it was wrong. Adam's transgression was necessary for the continuation of the eternal plan and so he is not held fully accountable for his mistake in the garden being that he didn't really know better being he had never made a wrong choice up to that point and had been given instructions to multiply and replenish the earth ( something that was impossible in the garden ) after his transgression he and Eve spent the rest of his and her prolonged life trying to make up and follow gods command.
Helluva boss thing really quick where is the next episode
Is there a delay?
Plot twist: Adam is not Adam from Bible 😳 (or meybe i missed some facts)
Which would make sense maybe this is one his many son's? He had many children before he died centuries laters.
Funny how so many people are down with a cold this month.
“The serpent”
Video: *pictures of sir penteious*
Btw Charlie’s the favorite child lol
I think Lilith would be a more mysterious character than Lucifer, I think hence why she doesn't have a character reveal compared to her husband 🫶
from a the video from 5 months back titled "The Different Species, Histories and Hierarchy of the Ars Goetia! Helluva Boss Breakdown & Analysis" provided so that I dunno it might be read because I wrote this today only to find out that the video was five months old and was likely never going to be seen. So interestingly as a member of a christian religion I have never actually watched the show but as a small fun fact from the King James version of the Bible, Lucifer and Satan are actually the exact same person as the devil himself despite the fact that the show seems to imply them as separate entity from what I have gathered. Throughout the bible these names are both mentioned but not as people or spirits or whatever you would call essentially the creator evil in the world, as separate entity . What they are usually called is based on the speakers preference either way meaning the creator of evil. I am by no means an expert on my religion, however this is what I have been taught since a young age. With this said I would encourage ( not force ) you to read a bible at some point if you want to learn more about biblical threats or even just find hope ( If you know were to look. Not all parts are hopeful most are or can be when taken in the right context ). Some reading material I would suggest if you choose to accept my invitation is the King James version of the bible and the Book of Mormon both of which are fairly easy to find and are available to the public. You can also comment under this comment if you would like a more detailed explanation on a specific part or creature in any of the above mentioned texts ( may take a while but I will respond as quickly as possible ). Anyway thought this would be an interesting mention. Also you can make fun of or argue with me or my claims all you want but I will not care ( I have likely heard it or even called myself it at some point, ah to not be clinically depressed, but ah well ).
Yes it definetely has similiarities.
I am still a wild rogue who is still believe in Christianity but since this is an alternate world apparel, well I don’t need to worry about that but everybody else should keep that in mind and maybe eve doesn’t have an art concept yet because maybe she’ll show up at season two because first off There has been subhuman species before I even the goliath who is half human half angel. He was killed by a throw a stone by human a full blooded human that said the human was on the side of true God he’s just one of many Subhumans Goliath, so the sex demons being well Subhumans makes sense to some degree. There’s also the Neanderthals, which are separate sub species of humans there’s even a deadly sin called Darwin, the deadly sin of stupidity, believing in science more than religion scientific belief of humans came from the monkeys and apes, and not of God is one of the other circles of hell what time concent is not really in this universe per se, but maybe it does exist in the pride reign somewhere in its nine circles but who knows that concept may not be executed, but concern does RUclips video. It might be a chance. That was the only way I could see them to be explored and has been hotel or hell of a boss or is the actual explored the other circles in the pride ring, and for all we know city of the Devils in the ring of wrath maybe one of those nine circles in each of the seven deadly sins while we don’t know while I do admit, that would basically mean Hella of a boss might actually expand that floor better, and has been hotel if they were to explore the pride ring more as like different circles in the pride ring like we can probably see Lulu world in Hasbún hotel and wonderland. The biological place of them wildlife animals in hell exist may be as a second season or season three because I’m not really sure of the stand up associates. We don’t know how many they are so please give her patience. Also, maybe there isn’t a design for. Eve yet because him either Lilith is one of the same person or like with Lucifer and Satan, they’re technically two separate beings how that works. I don’t know, but it could be worth exploring, or explaining it in season two maybe three as some of the answers finally get answered for the final season of the show since we don’t know how popular the show will be, but if the show is done get enough popularity it might get four or five seasons basically one or two more though I’m gonna keep that expectation the minimum since I’m gonna have to watch that on RUclips because not everybody can have a lot of accounts so it’s only a suggestion point
Imagine if Rosie Was Lilith’s first daughter
Are you implying that Lilith and Eve are the same person?
I know this may be not the best idea here. But what if charlie is the equivalent of eve. Considering in the opening she was cast away from a side she wants to be but because of her parents she was deemed also sinful. Not only that but lilith is distant from charlie...maybe luci isnt the dad everyone thought?
I wonder if Charlie was named after the girl from Hereditary.
Adam was only 930 years Old when he died as it says in Bible. i only read the 11 Pages now and i just gave up a week ago
Where can I watch this?
Its okay, we all get colds. I'm home from school bc of a cold too.
Boy or girl, black or white, christian or athiest, we're all just some guy's rib baby frfr
i actually do think eve exists, but as the mother of a lot of angels like cherubs