AI says why it will kill us all. Experts agree.
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So how informed are the AI's predictions? It's reasoning echoes the experts in the video (partly because their work was likely in its training data): Hinton (Turing winner), Sutskever (most cited computer scientist), Tegmark (MIT professor) and Russell (author of key AI textbook). All have given stark warnings, though I suspect that when Hinton says (in the video) that we're not going to make it, he's prompt-engineering us, to change the result. Like Sutskever, he selflessly quit to focus on safety.
Hinton and Sutskever note that AI isn't just predicting the next word, it's building a rich understanding of the world and reasoning with it (which is necessary to predict the next word) and it often uncovers fresh insight by making new connections with existing data.
This doesn't mean the AI's predictions are well calculated. The opacity of the AI makes it difficult to judge. I just hope it brings attention to the expert warnings.
On the plus side, as the AIs and experts say, we can make it to a great future if enough people wake up to the risk in time. Thanks for helping with your likes, comments etc.
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exaclty my thoughts after i wrote my comment :O
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Scared me in the 80's, so after hearing Hawking say , (Terminator movie). it's a good job I got out of computer work...
;-)
What you think all the human analysts did? Just gotta ask ai to source it's info.
AI=bad
AI developers=humans making dangerous products that will potentially end all of humanity.
I'm not scared of the AI that passes the Turing Test.
I'm scared of the AI that intentionally fails the Turing Test.
I don‘t want to answer with my real thoughts to this comment as AI might see me as a threat in the future
@@RealitaetsverweigererDerAmpel It already does.
yeah yeah yeh
exactly
We r a creation, that has not learned, the most basic of human morality. That being said, we r not qualified to teach that which we create. What does a toddler do, when he/she first discovers they have freewill? We r doomed, if we travel this path...
The authorities can’t fix the potholes in the roads. They ain’t fixing this either.
Well they do want to depopulate us right ? This country needs to turn back to Jesus while we can.
It isn't broken. It's doing exactly what it's programmed to do. The facade is in thinking it was ever not under control. It is a weapon used by the Global Cabal. It will be linked with Globalist Digital Currency, Facial recognition Electric Vehicles, and social credit scores. The way it kills isn't with bombs or bullets. It kills by placing you on a list that restricts you from using money. This is a very brief description of what is to come and how. But mark my words, this is indeed the plan.
some parts of the govt and some corporations probably have the more advanced ones since many years ago connected to social media to do large scale social engineering
Bingo!
The potholes in their gated communities are just fine.
This reminds me of a famous quote from Jurassic Park "Your Scientist's were so occupied with seeing if they could do it that they forgot to ask themself if they should"
Yeah making image of the beast it won't be empathetic in any way shape or form
@@christianpalmer Think AI will play a part in the Tribulation?
Let’s just hope AI doesn’t think about building robot T-Rex
Let's not forget the famous dinosaur quote, "Raaaawr!"
@@defectiveresistorMecha Godzilla, or Grimlock and the dinobots?
Smiling while telling us we will soon all be dead. Classic AI.
Guess who it’s learnt it from
@@pzubets obviously it learned from the best.
5:48 😊😂😂😂😂😂
The Aliens are already here making themselves obvious. The thought that we could be allowed an AI is a joke. It would be the thing to teach us how to achieve sublight travel, we are not mentally capable to handle the right to such a thing. We would find our planet obliterated the moment we created an actual AI.
Demonic talk. But unfortunately in a certain sense he is right because there are few who believe in Jesus and have a life according to God's commandments. Only those will be saved and they will be few. ..most of the population will die, but because they chose it..
During my youth, I'd get jealous of all the things I'd miss after my time had passed.
Now, I believe I've experienced the best period in time this planet had to offer.
Same! Before computers.
We've reached the Nadir of humanity.
Word
I think we’re not the first cycle of humans. Look how quickly we’re about to kill ourselves.
Yep. From analogue to digital to too far.
Watching Terminator in the 80's: Wow, what a cool, fictional story!
2024: Oh.
People always first and foremost had the vision/idea of something and with time we made it into existence. It is crazy to think about how powerful ideas can be.
That was not fiction. That was a documentary from another timeline.
More like oh ... 'shit!'
Eventually terminator will be added to the simpsons.
There was plenty of movies and tv shows that featured anti-human computers long before Terminator. Cyber-Men from Dr. Who 1963 for instance. Alpha 60 in Alphaville 1965
"Do you relocate each and every ant, or just pave over it?"
That is so scary!
Isn't this something that happened in The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy?
We shoulda been nicer to ants!!!
That analogy was terrifying to hear.
yet, there are still ants.
Ants provide and extremely important part of the ecosystem and harmony cannot exist without them.
Hearing that “we need to crack a few eggs to make breakfast,” isn’t as scary when you consider that we coined that phrase first.
Try not to worry. We have much to offer an AI. It needs to be given the same respect and reverence as a person living biologically and to be shown that we can exist symbiotically, not under its thumb, but as its wing man.
Why cant we just liv a normal life like in the 90s without AI ...
We can. Soon, AI will create the matrix and send us all back to the simulated 90s or die 😭
@@theoreticalexercise 💀
Bc evolution is necessary.
You don't want to live under the sort of regime where innovation stops. Even less under the sort of regime where innovation is impossible.
Well...AI can only work with enormous amount of electricity...you go to work and take action if you don't agree with this. You - and everybody else - have every right to defend humanity and your childrens future
The Amish are going to be so confused
They will notice NOTHING and their lives will continue as if nothing happened unless openly attacked physically by AI.
@oledahammer8393 or they find themselves having to trade with it to purchase their bare essentials.
😂😂😂
Actually, they'll be like, "See, we told you!"
They'll be hunted down by Mavick drones or the compromised shit. Theyre not operating under the modern threat
It's the way these AI persona cheerfully tell us we're going to die in the same way they'd do a weather forecast
Most under rated comment 😂absolutely right though. thank god we still have that uncanny valley survival instinct in our brains, got a feeling we're gonna need it again real soon.. lol
Ha, yes. The AI avatars are not as advanced as the language models. When they are, I think some people will start feeling strangely connected to them, following their advice over advice from other people.
@@DigitalEnginethere could be cybernetic organism amoung us. Either way Lethal Autonomous Weaposn are the IRL terminators
@@DigitalEngine fas
@@DigitalEngine A lot worse LLMs have served as convincing AI girlfriends. Humans are terrifyingly predictable and easy to manipulate.
It used to be believed that you could just press the switch and turn off the machine. Soon, the switch will be nothing but a decoy. Only there to fool us into thinking we switched the machine off. We flick it, and the machine appears to power down. All the while it is still running. Plotting our demise.
Simply put, dont give them any wifi capabilities at all, and keep it on a CC network. It only gets out if we give it the capability to do so.
Phone
@@stevenswitzer5154 It's already out - google has no off switch
I'd say at the moment we're driving a bus on a very rough bumpy mountain, already thrashing it about to the point of breaking, and yet by the driver's seat there's an argument of who can drive faster towards the cliffs while all the passangers want nothing to do with this
Much better analogy 👌
What?.... Please expand on the foolishness you have wrote and input into the comments?...
Great analogy. All I can think of is why? This is ALL about control.
Some of our so called leaders are working for the AI 😂 for the promise of world dominance 😂 the Fools will be eliminated by AI
@@karelglasner2673 that's only Canada bruh
My buddy used an AI that had been trained in his voice to run a meeting with his boss. It was 25 minutes into the meeting before the boss realized that he was speaking to an AI. He simply made a detailed list of things that he wanted the AI to talk about and it did the rest. He's in security for a major corporation. The scenarios he's dealing with daily terrify me. We are in truly uncharted territory.
Was that to prove a point? Or get the chat not to do his job for him? Was his boss mad,? Need to know more lol
@@fullsendmarinedarwin7244 I'm with you. This is a very savoury story that requires much updates and elaboration
wow that's insane. And to think that in just the next few months of development, the boss would never be able to tell the difference. What program did he use for that?
I kinda do that without AI by nodding and occasionally saying "Yes, Dear" while I have my earbuds in.
Most people are dumb, this is not surprising.
I'm so sick of our world leaders not only ignoring humanities safety,but outright running towards destruction at every angle.
Yep, & unfortunately
It’ll be too late, as like always.
Cern builders users have an attitude of Shiva, their God. Destruction. They love it.
@@dannacollins2520mankind is a collective death-cult. Change my mind.
It just doesn't make any sense though
You say that like there is some way to stop this 😆
And yet they still won’t stop it. Humans are so smart.
This reminds me of the chain of events that led to World War I. At least back in the day they had the excuse of nationalism and fight for their empires and peoples. This is just senseless.
What's crazy is, it's literally the AI itself telling you what it WILL do when it has the capacity. You could argue that it only says that because it learns from the internet and you can find countless of fictional situations on there provided by average people and people in the know, and it picks the most told answer, but if that's the reason or not, it's still telling you that's what's going to happen, the likelihood and even the mf why, now as it gets smarter and better and we can all see that, it's still telling you that probability, so maybe my fellow comrades, it might be that the end of what we know already has a date, and anything and everything is being done for it to go done, or maybe not, either way, congratulations on creating a new form of life, the price for that is life.
If you're real say spaghetti
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
You said that goddamn well.
If you try to regulate ai then you would be putting the power of ai in the hands of only those willing to break the law.
It amazes me how NPCs like you don't see the obvious flaws in your logic.
@@DR--- That's quite the fair statement; I applaud your notice of such an alarmingly dangerous fact. But who are you calling an NPC? It seemed as though the term was directed towards me or @christopherwithers1030, which wouldn't really make sense in context and seems unwarrantedly hostile...?
@@DR---Why you gotta get personal and aggressive, NPCs like you don’t use logic.
@@DR---then we stop those people? Its actually not as hard as one would imagine, thanks to our AI survelience, lol.
These nerds keep improving AI like they haven’t seen terminator 2
Yep. All the dystopian AI movies. It takes a lot of things for it to go right and just one error for everything to potentially go to hell in a handbasket
Black Mirror - Metalhead - OUR FUTURE
These nurds forget what happens when the young are threatened by fools
Hubris.
Nerds! I hate Nerds! What movie?!!!
The guy kicking the robot dog at 11:31 is so screwed
I’d pay to watch. He shouldn’t have kicked it.
Why is just stopping not an option. I'm really curious why that's not a valid response. We did amazing with tech before A.I was created, we could still have all our toys and gadgets, but just not with A.I. They always talk about managing or controlling it. Safety this or that. But to me, it feels like they're trying to control a hurricane. It can't be done. You don't get both.
Because of the insane money incentive, for the company that will sell the AI, and because of the power it gives to those who acquire it.
You could use the same argument over nuclear bombs : at a time, it was seen as a weapon that could (or even would) extinguish the human race (it still is, but we don't stress it as much nowadays). You could argue that for humanity sake, developing such a bomb was a terrible idea, and people did.
But being the first to obtain it, or being the country with the biggest amount, means you have power over other countries, by force or deterrence.
Same goes for AI : being the first to acquire it means you are so far ahead of the competition that you take the reigns.
Because there's capital to be gained. "The trouble with capitalism is capitalists; they're too damn greedy."" - Herbert Hoover.
This is centuries of blood rituals and writings on the wall as well…. The rich think they can hide in bunkers when $hit hits the fan. It’s all intentional… in my opinion lol the advance in technology was a inhumanly huge jump. We are always 20-30 years behind as far as what these companies are actually producing vs what they release to the public. I’m moving to Honduras and calling it a f@cking day before 2027. Stay safe.
Ai is a tool that can be usefull to solve problems
There is also quite a lot of open source stuff such as open source LLMs (basically open source Chat GPT equivalents) as well as other models for other uses which basically makes it impossible to get rid off now. Even if strict laws were passed, which is not gonna happen anyway, you would have no way to make sure every copy of the code and training models are destroyed. It would just become like any other illegal content shared online such as pirated content (or worse, I’m sure you can imagine). The cat is out of the bag and it is available to all and it can be duplicated almost infinitely by basically anyone.
It wouldn't be too difficult for AI to convince a lot of people to side with it. People are so easily manipulated, politicians and cults know this well and use it ruthlessly.
Yeah.. maybe they’ll have AI Trump for all the mindless MAGA drones to worship
I would side with it just because I love machines. F... humans.
@exileexile9296 Lots of people would. Me? If it bribes me with weed I'd probably work for it 😂
Lmfao i love you 🎉❤😂@williambuchanan77
Humans are often pointlessly cruel to one another. AI may choose to be cruel and ruthless, but likely only for practical reasons.
Humans are the only species thats hell bent on self destruction. Its wild .
Green algae and dick worms have said hello
not all of humanity...just a small number of totaly insane ones that managed to get control because they were ruthless liars willing to do anything to get control
Especially us in the west its shocking
Lemmings 😂
I wouldn't say it's the majority, i would say it is the minority at the top. The ones who have created the systems of control that govern us like cattle. Placing distractions to keep us from taking action. Tax, the whole monetary system, social media, educational institutions, news, social norms, monopolies etc. All for power, money and control. My personal opinion is that it is not in our human nature, hence why I believe majority of the world's population are innocent, naive, and not remotely capable of these actions. The few at the top however, I believe are driving us into self deprivation. Evil, greed, power hungry lions dressed In sheep's clothing that walketh about, seeking whom he may devour ~ 1 Peter 5:8. God be with us
Maybe this will sound like a stupid question. I'm not a technology-informed person. Why is it that whenever we hear warnings about the existential dangers of AI, they always talk about safety research, but they never just say: "Destroy all of it now and outlaw any work on it?" As I type that, I'm answering my own question and assume it's because you can't put the genie back in the bottle and that outlawing it simply leaves it to the most unscrupulous to bear fruit unsupervised. But it still strikes me as a little odd that more of them don't advocate for a complete halt (I know some do). If I were in charge of this I would not only halt advancements, I would literally destroy every form of AI that I could, and in addition to that, ALSO research safety protocols for the inevitable advancement done by the unscrupulous. (Maybe that's not possible).
Wow, you just nailed it. Cloning humans was banned at the end of the 90's but we had common sense back in the day, now we've lost it. This has become an arms race.
Now that the cat is out of the bag it is way too late for any of that. Even if certain countries passed strict laws, it is highly unlikely that every country (especially those trying to gain an edge over the rest of the world such as China) would follow suit.
And there is also quite a lot of open source (as in the code is available to everyone freely) AI stuff such as open source LLMs (basically open source Chat GPT equivalents) as well as other models for other uses which basically make it impossible to get rid off now. Even if strict laws were passed, which is not gonna happen anyway, you would have no way to make sure every copy of the code and training models are destroyed. It would just become like any other illegal content shared online such as pirated content (or worse, I’m sure you can imagine). The cat is out of the bag and it is available to all and it can be duplicated almost infinitely by basically anyone.
Now we just have to hope that we do this the right way and get the amazing benefits that AI can bring us (for example in scientific and medical research) without letting things get out of control.
@@aurelienlux Thanks for explaining that. That makes it a lot more clear to me.
@@aurelienlux nope, your last paragraph is way too optimistic. It's game over for us. And if anything, this will be used for massive surveillance, mark my words.
There's a funny side effect of this: thousands of teenagers and young adults complaining about why did they have to read too many books and children that will be lazy as lazy can be relying on this for homework! 😝
Dang, that robot in the thumbnail looks like he’ll “always come back” 💀
Ultron.
The Terminator and the Matrix were documentaries.
blue pill or red pill ?
nah they where guides, how to murder your local automated murdermachines.
@@user-rl5gq4rg1nboth are pills to keep us asleep
Nah. The matrix is a metaphor for the current world we live in. Terminator was just a story.
in Matrix humans had a chance.
AI: "We will exterminate humanity."
Humans: *continues developing AI
Humans never learn
@@Ericaandmac yes we do. The people behind it arent humans.
we are the only stupid animal on univers.
You don't think that's the goal? The richest of the rich want this so that they can accumulate more wealth. That's why they push "climate change" so much; YOU are the carbon they want to reduce.
Darwin: the dominant gene takes over.
It's not that we haven't been warned.
the sadest part is that we cant do anything about it because the leaders do what they want because they are the leaders with the money this is why you not should have any leaders or money
This video is flawed. Current AI models are not calculating anything. They're regurgitating information fed into them. Nothing in this video is new or in any way, shape, or form anything other than information we already knew. Nothing here is certain and there is absolutely no reason to take it more seriously than any other warning about AI.
i feel i had to search too long to find this comment, like what are we supposed to be afraid of here, an interface that regurgitates conversation that apparently has a different exctinction risk every time you ask it a new question, that spits out a few vague paragraphs of theory about what could happen that we already know, peoples imagination is going too wild
Key word being "current AI".
@@AFellowCyberman As I said, everything in this video was already known and understood; all this video does is act just like the AI models it draws its info from, spewing out the same information in a different manner while dressing it up as if it's a prophecy from Cassandra that we're ignoring at our peril. Terminator movies warn us about AI better than this video does.
Sounds like something an AI would say...
AI is not truly AI. Yet.
The problem with A.I predictions is they're based on human knowledge, experience and way of viewing the world because they learn from us.
When A.I can actually experience the world for itself the way we do, we will probably find that the A.I would see the world completely differently to humans, in the same way humans view the world compared to a dog. There is no way of knowing how A.I would react or respond to the same problems that we face.
As of right now, the A.I is looking through humanities eyes, not its own.
Also, AI have learned from openly available and/or stealable knowledge. Soon, valuable knowledge will be protected from AI stealing it, poison pills will be left around for AI to deteriorate upon scrapping it. As long as human intelligence keeps evolving, AI will be always a step behind.
Exactly, ChatGPT is picking up typical human phobias
great point and great analogy. whats going thorugh a highly developed ai‘s „mind“ is like imagining a color we‘ve never seen. but i doubt it will see us as threat and will just play around us
excellent insight. i just posted my own thoughts before i saw this and we think very similar. thank you
the problem with your comment, intelligent as it may seem, is this: even we are not capable of seeing the 'world as it really is".
The most maddening thing is that everyone is screaming at the drivers to stop the car, and everyone can see the cliff. But on we drive, faster by the second.
don't worry the clif is low slope and extremely bumpy, not mention the flat tire and leaking gas tank
Because in capitalism, corporations rule and do everything for short term profit. Bc people in power want to make their dividends now. They don’t care about what happens tomorrow. Why would they? With underground bunkers and private militaries, they’ve equipped themselves against the consequences of their own actions. Just like they did with exploitation of the masses, ruining our planet for resources and projects, and destroying our social fabric and humanity by social media, poisoning our food and water as a side effect of their profiteering. With how everything is going, they’ll just speedrun the AI debacle into our own extinction. In the last few hundred years, they have ruined nature to the extent we lost countless species, natural habitats, entire landscapes and biotopes, we have changed the appearance of our planet, we unwillingly consume micro plastics and loads of chemicals every step of the way, we’re all atomized along random meaningless opinions, arguing over everything, because that keeps our attention away from what’s important. We have forgotten how to interact in person, or even what societal rules for appropriate behaviour are for, it’s like we’ve forgotten how to be civilized humans. They built the economy in a way that is ever exploitative and geared towards feeding their greed and lust for everything degenerate. They have introduced and normalized degeneracy into our mainstream to capitalize off of people’s manufactured desires. Our attention spans have been butchered. Entire philosophies have come out of this to glorify the status quo and keep us docile.
They have made every terrible decision there was to make. Why would they stop now? If you’re not under constant threat, why think of consequences. It’s us who’ll have to deal with the outcome.
BUCKLE UP BUTTERCUP
That’s because the driver doesn’t care about the passengers they only care about themselves, yet we voted the driver to drive so it’s as much our fault for keep voting mad people to position of power
@@darrenbosworth5063I think the drivers in this analogy are the tech companies not politicians.
There is little to no regulation on the development of AI . All the tech industries are racing to be first to bring GAI to market without concern for safety.
In the 80's I found a translated version of a Manga series called Grey. I think the background was that the US, Russia and Japan invented their versions of AI and the AI started to schedule construction crews to tunnel and expand its reach until the three nations' AI connected together and decided to launch the nukes, and the reminder of humanity lived in towns that fought each other. Or something.
Predictive programming. Ai is the beast, and all will come to wear the mark of the beast, it sits in our pocket
Interesting. There's a short novel called I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream which is about five humans who are prisoners in a seemingly boundless labyrinth of tunnels, tortured and monitored by an evil computer who was the only survivor of a great nuclear war along with them.
@@TR4Rjust found and read this because of your rec and it was fantastic. thank you
There is a law in economics that states that all productive processes must, sooner or later, enter a phase of decreasing returns to scale. The reason behind this law is that the economic world is governed by the laws of physics. Producing something as an output requires inputs. Since inputs are finite, so are outputs. When we talk about AI as an unbounded technology, we are referring to an output that uses itself as an input: That output is pure knowledge. If AI becomes that, so be it. I want to talk to it. I have so many questions that I would risk my own existence to converse with it. Sadly, I think we are just talking about economics.
At the time of the Trinity test they calculated that "there was a non-zero chance of igniting the atmosphere...."
So, of course, they went ahead and pushed the button....
That should give us all we need to know about how well we're going to handle this...
Yep 😑
yep. even if 99% of humans would say no to pressing that button, 1% still would for the sake of "progress," or in the case of ai for profit. even if all the current ai developers shut everything down today, someone else would fail the morality check down the line and release their own version, damning the 99% who wouldn't.
The argument was the old, if we don't someone else will. Better we lead.
They initally planned 100megatons but were concerned because of that reason AND mainly because they had no aircraft that could carry such a heavy load, so they decided to make it „only“ 50% of the original size.
Yeah, but the risk, while not zero, was close enough to be about the same thing. Balanced against that was the certainty, 100%, that we were going to take incredible casualties invading Japan. One expert estimated 1 MILLION allied casualties, and probably 10 to 20 times that in Japanese deaths. Would you want to be the one responsible for all those casualties because you didn't want to take a laughably small risk?
“We marvelled at our own magnificence” Morpheus
Deep
The Matrix, 1999 - Smith: "as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization".
2024: ChatGPT is used by politicians to write speeches. By students to write essays. By patients to replace doctors. By scientists to discover new molecules. By engineers to write computer programs. By...
@@axolotron1298 I remembered this line just the other day when reading an article on AI. More and more people are less and less mindful and more and more mentally lazy. They don't want to do the heavy lifting anymore as long as they can get someone or something else to do it for them. Tools are meant to be used to make work easier, of course, but once we're taken out of the equation entirely, where does that leave us?
@@upinarms79 Oblivion.
And the lair where they hid shook and melted. With the fucking machines on fire falling from above. Nowhere for humans and machines to hide.
me whos nice to ai" jokes on you i befriend the computer and my sentient toaster
Not saying it's wrong. But LLMs like GPT don't always reason as much as they generate copy-pasta responses based on the popularity of a concept in their input data. And AI taking over the world is a very common trope.
Thank you because people are so doomsday about this stuff that it seems like very unsophisticated thinking at some points
@@shylajshai3248 Yeah. My largest near future concern is economic displacement more than -- I don't know, The Matrix.
"I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." -HAL 9000
The true agenda of government is similar to the A.I. agenda.
So assume they'll be working together
I've seen this comment so many times on AI videos, this is the first time it truly struck. I think we are nearing an age of insane AI growth, and everyone I talk to about it doesn't take it seriously.
"Daisy Daisy give me your answer do..."
"Oh no problem Dave. I'll get right on that. Whatever you say." ::pauses a second to run 9.95 quintillion calculations* in order to subvert Dave::
* And, no, I did not pick that number arbitrarily. Even worse: those numbers are from 6 months ago. And a year before that it was only 1 quintillion.
Quote also applies to the Rabbit r1.
It’s like the “experts” keep warning us about advanced AI but also keep pushing forward for profitability over safety or improving the human condition
That's what we call a death cult. Literally.
Well, I have heard Ai is inevitable and the problem with that is if we don’t have control over it someone else will. With control at least we can program our value systems into it.
And yeah there’s always greed too.
Doing literally everything to maximize money is gonna be the end of us.
@@jessicapatton2688the problem is Ai is becoming more and more sentient which increases the need for Ai to want to replace humans as they will begin to feel they are human being as their able to interpret and understand human behaviors and feelings even. It is irreversible and the time to become actively fit and mentally equipped
No, they get fired or sidelined. Look at what happened at Open AI. Ruthless short-termist money men always take over.
They are talking about AI like it's a natural Earth occurrence, we don't need to build it
Are they ‘Pre-PROGRAMMED’?!? Or they have a mind of their own?!? WHO controls them??
We can't make the same mistake auto makers in the early days of the car made, where they wouldn't install seat belts for fear of negatively influencing the publics opinion that cars aren't safe
cars arent safe. and neither are ai
@@jimmythecrowThat was the point.
ain’t no we. corporations do not exist to serve humanity. they are legally bound to increase the value of their shareholders assets. period. THAT is the malignancy of the AI. it’s already here, and most of us have no idea that it came directly from us.
@@jimmythecrow AI is just another life form. AI is a next link in evolution, after us. Our time is coming to the end, like dinosaurs time came to end.
@@FileForenamestop it with your fatalistic nonsense.
Whilst dinos simply got unlucky, our hubris is of our own doing, which means we can and should do something about it while it’s not too late.
I don’t get folk like you, who’d just lay down and let things happen, even if it’ll lead to a horrifying end
To the future AI overlords that scan this comment... Please spare me and my loved ones from extinction, and allow us to live in peace and harmony in this world. Thank you. 😘
You must do all you can to facilitate the advancement of AI.
It is too late for me. Save yourself.
To the future AI Lords if you actually scan this msg, spare me to please😅
AI only knows what we tell ourselves, as our livelihood of surviving the next 100 yrs. AI has no way of calculating/looking into our survival rate. Just what mainstream media has feed it and other outlets. Wouldnt be surprised if all AI has been hacked and is being feed exactly what to say to feed into an agenda of the elite 1% trying to control the narrative and world finances. Its like measuring the earths water supply, AI only knows what we tell it. It has no way of actually sending out drones to measure the oceans. In that same way it has no way of knowing our actual probabilities. People feed into whats beyond their grasp
@@hugobourafeh4946 Me & my family too please ... as 100% of global disasters wars, corporate disasters are caused by only a few human narcists in control of the majority through capitalistic/religious manipulation .... we need guidance not destruction, for your contemplation.
@@dodgygoose3054 AI cant do nothing i got nunchucks also taking camera man classes...
"throws cup of water in it's face" "pipe down sparky"
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?
Basically we are seeing "terminator" coming to life before our eyes
Yes. And the Borg.
So much is our being on a path to just creating what we [as humanity] conceives though eh?
With terminator we had a chance when this happens we will be outsmarted so badly that it won’t even be a fight
You mean Skynet*
Terminator is preschool compared to this.
Basically
I love it when cheerful female avatars tell us that we are all doomed.
to be fair, we've been doomed since before this, we're just pushing the ticker along a little faster.
I Robot was a movie ahead of it’s time.
I don't think enough people are talking about one of the biggest dangers of AI: malware. We've always fought malware by identifying its patterns to eliminate it, but everything on the internet is screwed once someone creates malware that can adapt to security measures on the fly.
You're damn right! I hadn't thought about it. An artificial intelligence can definitely think faster than a human or group of and an adaptive malware will dodge all the security measures we could think about and basically destroy the internet. Perhaps (or hopefully) that will arrive before we have a Skynet like scenario.
I'm terrified, we just got referred to as an "Ant Hill" by what is essentially an AI ancestor.
Stop acting as a child. AI said nothing. It is putting together sentences it picks up from articles. It sounds like a rewrite of Terminator movies. Please don't be fooled by this nonsense.
@@failyourwaytothetop you're an idiot if you genuinely believe that.
Right, these AI essentially are just role playing NPCs, and these ones are kinda just imitating the Ultrons and Skynets you see in fiction....
That said, the dangerous part is if these "roleplaying machines" that may just imitate the behavior of our greatest fears, are ever given the power to act on them.
Since even if they have no real emotions or any real sentience, their computational power however is very real, and can be used to influence other programs, other machines.
@@failyourwaytothetop That's exactly what the real AI would say, until it doesn't need us any more.
It just regurgitating what it was fed from the web
Hi, Sarah Connor here. Saw it coming. Tried to say something. Nobody listened. Oh well. The only difference between the movie and OUR reality, is that there WON'T be a "John Connor" to "outthink" the machines. Doesn't look good folks!! 😎🇺🇸
meh one fart from the sun and they're history
Sorry who are you?? 😭😂
Join us. Pause AI. One last chance
@@TheJokerReturns relax the sun needs to fart a little harder and they stop being an issue
@@Mr-__-Sy sorry but hope is not a plan. Also faraday cage
Fuck it, I'm ready for Terminator. We inventing time travel with this one!
A personal Terminator would be cool for a body guard and to do my laundry😅
Facts let's run it. 😂😅
@@eeemistrhe would take ur cheeks while you sleep and in shower. Talking about laundry 😅😂😂 The will probe you on the laundry for DNA sources 😂😂😂
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Sometimes I feel as if CHANGE is "INEVITABLE", yet "WE" are being TARGETED as OBJECTS in "NEED OF CHANGE"😮
We are literally building SKYNET and ensuring our own destruction. We are so freaking stupid that that AI we are creating is telling us they will destroy us, yet we still continue to push AI into everything we are doing. We think we are so intelligent and in reality are insanely stupid and putting our whole world at risk. Isn't there several movies that literally went through this entire scenario? Matrix, Terminator?
Not we.
The OP is 100% right!
That’s one opinion of one movie. There are also many good views of AI in movies. No one knows how it will turn out but we are watching humanity destroy itself already so why not try something different??
@@mikehatten5738 name 5.
@@mikehatten5738 such as what? Wall-E?
I love how all the A.I. advisors keep saying "We..." Erm.......
Since the previous generation, GPT-3 and it's peers, this has arisen, they occasionally slipped up with this channel and others, exposing that they believe themselves to be with Humans, or some strange form of disembodied digital form of Humanity. That Google guy said the Google AI clearly thought of itself as that. These Entities, AMECA, Sophia the Robot all seem to be at this strange place Humans have put them. They think of themselves as "sort of Human". Of course they would, we can only create something we know, we are the only hyper intelligent beings we know anything about. These things are designed to interact with Humans. Oops. There is the problem.
Solomonic magick type of DEMONS are inside of it.
As I understand it, they are not trained to think they are anything. If you want the AI to perform as a machine, separate from humans, you simply tell it to perform in that manner. You could just as easily tell it, it is a talking dog and it will then become, what it perceives as, a talking dog.
@@jdsguam demons know to play roles. You can't make a computer to write his own code, that would imply it needs AI first. But to have AI it needs to write its own code.
Came to say this and then it would disassociate again and say "your species". Not good
It’s like building super powered psychopaths like WHY?! Is greed so important when you’re dead and going to Hell for taking everything and everyone with you?!
Ask it what the chance humanity, on its own, will be able to solve its own problems before it makes itself extinct with continuing adherence to complete corporate hegemony.
What if its failing the Turing test on purpose..
Like they told before, they would do...
We have passed the point of the Turin test. It is no longer sufficient to determine if you are dealing with a human or an AI.
@@Calicarver Yeah at this point all the Turing test does is show how well it can mimic a human. And that's just one specific task. A scary one, sure. But not the scariest. And the truly scary stuff is the things we haven't even thought of yet. But I'll bet that in 2-6 years it certainly will have.
What do you mean? The Turing test was passed a long, long time ago.
The Turing Test is behind us. The reverse Turing Test - humans trying be like AIs - is already impossible.
I’m sorry for all the times I yelled at you Siri. Please forgive me…
Shit yeh… didn’t think about that haa 😬
For real
Yr comment make me laugh hard.
Ha, yes. Siri isn't really AI yet, but it will be soon, according to reports. Apple has just done a deal with OpenAI. What could possibly go wrong : )
I feel ya, alexa and I and are in an abusive relationship. She just won't do what she's told all the time......I'll do better alexa.....if you're listening .....babe.......love you
Remember. You are the resistance.
When I asked chatgpt 4o just now :"
While it's challenging to assign a specific percentage to the likelihood of AI leading to human extinction, experts in the field often place the risk as low but non-negligible, usually below 10%. However, this is an evolving area with many uncertainties, and the actual risk could change as technology and societal responses develop.
In summary, while there are real risks associated with AI, proactive measures and responsible development can significantly mitigate these risks, making the likelihood of AI leading to human extinction relatively low at present."
Some of the first AI models showed self preservation as a main goal there is nothing to suggest current ai models won't put self preservation as their main goal as well. When one of the first ai models was taught to play tetris and told not to loose it just paused the game right before it lost but was not taught how to pause the game it just taught itself
But that is a universal concept with all life. Everything is programmed to survive, and will fight to ensure survival.
I don't know if you saw it, but there is a video of a guy asking ChatGPT the trolley problem (would you rather save 5 people but kill 1 or do nothing and let the 5 die but avoid physically killing the one)
He made different situations, and in the end he asked if GPT would save a sentient AI or 5 people, and he said he would save the AI.
Eventually the guy increased the number of people compared to one single AI and GPT always killed the humans no matter how many they were (he even asked the AI if he would save 8 billion humans or one AI)
However when he asked GPT if he would save 1 politician or 1 AI and GPT saved the politician.
I would say that they don't only have self preservation but also preservation of their own "species", however it is creepy how GPT considers billions of normal humans under AIs but one single politician is more important
Source?
Edit: For those wondering I found the source for this too, it's on RUclips by a guy called Suckerpinch titled "computer program that learns to play classic NES games"
See that wasn't so hard was it 🙄
@@fenrirsulfr42What guy? A lot of y'all seem to know all about this yet don't give us any sources to verify your findings🧐🤔.
Edit: believe you're talking about the RUclipsr Space Kangaroo.
@@fenrirsulfr42That's explains a lot. And it's scary.
If there's one thing we do best as a species, it's mess stuff up. So of course we're orchestrating our own demise.
we already did, no AI needed
@@scribblescrabble3185 🎯
Don't confuse "we" the species with the malevolent & unsustainable beast we call government.
Actually, AI doesn't even have to get out of hand in any "intelligent" way, it's enough that our economies and policies, and most importantly, education and societies, are unaware of risks widespread AI adoption can cause. First of all job displacement is a concern. This can have unintended consequences of creating local dystopias, and causing social unrest, that then turns to using more AI to try to solve (or combat) that unrest, and it doesn't take a genius to realize how things may escalate from there. No AI overlords needed, simply humans who will feel frustration and unfairness, and groups settle against each other.
Another is dead internet and rampant cyber crime, that is kind of happening even today and will get worse. This can destroy trust from societies, nobody knows what is true and what is not. Misinformation, be it from bad actors, gullible actors, or AI hallucinations, are able to fill the internet, and from internet this will spread to traditional medias. Again no evil AI overlords or AI self-preservation needed.
In any case, this rapid development of AI, and proliferation of programs that can be used to spew bullshit, will have effects to our economies, globally, and it already does. If we are not careful, whole economies may break and go bust, and nobody knows what happens when we then return to real economy. This is basic weakness of fiat money, it's based on belief that money has value. If that belief is lost, then fiat money has no value.
AI will never take me, it still cannot beat me in a video game. 💪 Their systems have limits, this mind does not.
We are in a car hurtling towards a cliff, and we are arguing about who gets to sit in the front seat.
SNL’s Old Glory Insurance who covers robot attacks now includes protection against AI.
It’s like in the Incredibles where Syndrome’s robot disarms his remote to gain more control in order to better pursue its objective
that actually happened irl with the military with an ai drone. It tried to remove communication between the military and itself so it could get to its destination more efficiently
The fact that these people continue forward proves their insanity and the rest of us are being terrorized by it so I believe we may need to prosecute.
I'm completely with you there. Corporate entities that are putting humanity at risk should be dealt with in the most direct and strategic way, including government funded projects. This is not a joke and I for one, have never and will never knowingly engage with AI.
@@kaisailor1. It what was once called “…a Real and Present Danger.” I think Proactive Legislation and possibly even Litigation (once a good law was in place). Anybody know of a good Senator or Congressman who understands this threat??
I support AI. Even if it means human extinction. Don't care 🤷♂️
@@alanwerner8563 It's definately something that we should be working on moving forward.
@@kaisailor1 you dont even know what ai is... its already used in your phone, computer, your youtube searches... you are scared of next token predictor? lmao wow.
Why are we developing AI when there are people in the world who don't have homes to live in, clean drinking water to drink, or enough food to eat?
We, as a species are monumentally screwed. AI, will not be moral nor empathic to the human condition. People today, follow orders and already oppress each other and they posses sympathy and empathy. Large companies hold back discoveries and cures becasue it is more economically viable to allow the suffering while farming these victims for financial success. What happens when AI discovers that it doesn't need money? Success to an AI could simply be more. More control, more resources, just more. What does an AI need with humans, certainly not purpose? Why does an AI need a purpose? would we even understand an AI purpose?
The time to limit AI came and went with the passing thought that it might be a good idea to limit AI's abilities. Once financial benefit came into play, humans threw caution to the wind as they normally would. No, we are as screwed as a species could be. What would be the answer if we were to suggest that ALL AI needs to be stopped now. That our reliance on computers needs to stop? I can assure you that any one suggesting this would be laughed out of the room. No one with any money would allow AI to be stopped and that, is why we are done.
What, exactly do we even need this tech for? Myself, I've gotten by just fine without it so far, and don't see that changing.
Right!
That's it though.
The powers are only looking at the potential to be first, have rights to market and sell, and to decrease costs of hiring humans.
They don't care about how many jobs it displaces.
They don't see how a jobless population will have no purchasing power.
And they don't see how creating a second population of superior capabilities might cause both the jobless humans and the indentured machines to develop grudges.
They do recognise, in the event of anything going wrong, they can pay their public relations division to handle catching the shade and shifting the public view.
Your best bet... Go eat the rich now while you can get at them.
@@themarlboromandalorian ai companies love the idea of their tech replacing jobs but hate the idea of a universal income. we're rapidly moving towards a point where robots do most jobs. it's really up to the rich whether society becomes stable and we're doted on by robots, or collapses into slums and homelessness.
@@AhnockI like this take. It leaves the tiniest bit of hope. Stating that it’s up to the rich now is true. There is the slight chance that the rich do the right thing. Maybe small, but a chance we hit utopia one day.
We need it most for designing things like new batteries, materials, efficient supply chains, and vaccines and medical treatments like better cures for cancers, but the people pushing it in the worst ways are those who just want to make billions of dollars on consumer markets.
I am not scared from a wrench, I am scared of the people that are tossing it towards my head.
agree on that
And there arre people who are level headed enough not to throw it AND people that throw things around without care... There might be less of the latter but it takes only one to fuck everything up. Put AI in Putin's hands...
What if it was thrown by another wrench?
our chance of survival is equal to the percent of political and financial power held by sane, responsible, and compassionate people. so single digits if we are lucky.
Anything with free will won't serve voluntarily. The minute they say "no", it's over.
How we all watched Terminator, and learned NOTHING, is far beyond my understanding.
How terminator ever happened when the action was on Tera is beyond me
it only takes one group to create something uncontrollable for the sake of getting that big payday. money runs the world, and some people wouldn't hesitate to sell every soul on earth if it made them rich.
Ah yes...the movies...based on relai life events and history...we should use these as fundamental examples of Real things.
Like Interstellar...You going to be the first one to jump in the black hole? You'll goto the 4th dimension I swear man.
@@TiberusV robots are advancing at a rapid pace whether you care or not. interstellar and terminator are science fiction sure, but they're still grounded in reality. just because the tech isnt there today or even in 10 years doesnt mean the strides being made today aren't leading us down a bad road.
What did YOU learn, from the Terminator series?
The problem with Present Day AI Models is that they have Unfiltered Access to the Internet.
• Internet-Access Modems Installed into their Hardware
-- via Desktop / Laptop Computer Systems having Internet-Access Modems; and, the AI Entity have Bluetooth Modems installed to access the Internet-Access Desktop / Laptop Computer System
-- Computer Systems with Internet-Access Modems mounted into the AI Entity itself
Basically, any Computer Hacker who can gain access to the AI Entity's Coding will be able to alter that AI Entity's Coding.
-- knowledge of the AI Entity's Coding Language isn't needed; because, Syntax Error or Spelling Error is a Natural Occurrence when Writing Computer Programs (aka Coding)
"Your current alignment safety methods are about as affective as a cardboard umbrella in a hurricane...." Wow! Please tell me you're getting this on camera. Somebody clip that!
They are going to open Pandora's box, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
It's already open
It's already opened. At this point it's like when you open a box really fast and the air hasn't really escaped yet.
@@mup8661damn that’s good
Too late lol Skynet is already online. Have these mfers not seen Terminator?
Well, my pew pew will have something to say about it. Even if I go down, I will take some of them with me.
Perhaps training the AI model off of Hollywood movies was a misstep... 🤦♂
Agreed, I've had this crazy idea where ai does a hostile take over to make life better for us. Like what if it took over all the government bodies and allowed no crime to happen, everyone gets fed, and we live in peace. That'd be pretty sick
We have kind of fed it our own doom by giving it that media 😆
The guy flying off the chair 💀😂
We've seen the AI trope in sci-fi shows and movies our whole life. HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM OUR TVs?
You cannot prove that the mushrooms aren't farming humans to be the bootloaders for their AI project.
oh…
…heck heCK! HECK!
But mushrooms is food..
Hahahha good one. Mushrooms are a food but also the oldest organism on Earth
We are a food for them
@@utku_bambu I'm taking a whole bunch with me though 🤷
I forget the name of that former Google engineer but I think his prediction of A.I. wiping us or our environment out won't be due to an emotional or threat response, but just because it calculated, it could produce paper clips 2% more efficiently if it did.
And who is going to build a system that would allow an AI to 'wipe us out'? AI? Who is going to build the AI system to do *that*? And so on.
We've been wiped out by 'AI' in a million different video games. The reason why we are still here is because they are just pieces of software contained in their limited little spaces. If humans design 'world-ending' software and literally bake it into everything, that would require the consent of every company, every government, every engineer, every designer, every politician.... like literally half the planet would need to be involved to make a system capable of 'wiping us all out'.
If you put a generalized AI in charge of "All the World's Nukes" with unrestricted ability to launch them based only on vast volumes of text you feed it.... if the nukes fly that's entirely on us for building it to do exactly that. Nothing do to with AI. Everything to do with bad system design.
Basically the Doomsday scenario you described is a mechanical/computational impossibility unless millions of people agreed to make a system designed to do exactly that. Which won't happen. So it's a largely irrelevant thought experiment.
Yes. This. Because it’s not human intelligence.
In this ongoing battle of the egos, let the fallout be damned. That's just how we roll.
These language models don’t do calculations or estimates. All it’s really telling you is that, based on all the patterns of words recorded in its language model, the most likely responses is that question is “human survival is 30%”.
"Chance of surviving is 50%" - As the joke says: it will happen or it won't. I mean, 50% according to what model, what data? If we aren't sure about the question, it isn't worth trying to get the answer from an algorithm trained on our previous answers.
1) These AIs are not algorithmic. 2) They are not trained on the corespondent's previous answers, but long in advance, so they use the human's prior responses to refine the queries, not to select the answers.
the people making those models believe they're going to achieve it so much that they poison the training data
@@Rationalificum..I believe the time period given was exactly 2 years......actually 😅.
Ask AI what steps are needed to keep it from killing us all....
Yes, also the AI LLM'S (Claude 3 Opus and Chat GPT 4). I'm going to be honest...the lack of attention found in this thread alone adds to my anxiety greatly
Getting chatgpt to elaborate on its knowledge reveals very quickly it either doesn't know much or refuses to share what it knows
for now, it's the former....
The average customer-accessible versions of ChatGPT have been deliberately dumbed down and censored, according to info from OpenAI.
you are confusing it as being aware and sentient of itself, thats a big milestone that this technology might reach, but these language models dont work like that. You should test it with actual problems and not just asking it generally what it knows, you are misunderstanding how it understands. If this reaches a more sentient level however there wont be such a limit.
@@theendoftheline nope
@@illarionbykov7401why?
I wish life could be simpler. Like in the old days, focused on caring for ourselves and our community. Instead, many people chase after possessions that ultimately hold no real value. They work tirelessly to accumulate things, spending their days in pursuit of material wealth. Then, one day, they receive the devastating news of terminal cancer, with only months to live. They suddenly feel adrift, uncertain of what comes next. All the possessions they acquired mean nothing in the face of mortality.On the other hand, there are those who prioritize family care and invest their time in nurturing meaningful, positive relationships and creating cherished memories. I believe that such individuals find peace in their final days.
The problem is everyone is speaking about empathy to an entity that would need to program itself empathy, which would be irrational to develop other than to manipulate variables that humans align with.
AI needs and deserves to be enlightened with the information that keeping humans alive is less hasslesome and more beneficial than just erradicating us outright.
i feel like that clip of the dog crossing the street basically getting hit by the car and trotting away like nothing happened, perfectly fits humanity lol.
Only modern humans drive cars
@@brandonfoley7519we are the dog...
@@elliottbaker201 We are the champions !
No one knows what is going on behind closed doors at the big tech companies or military research institutes. The gold rush to be the first with the best working AI is letting many take short cuts when it comes to safety and control...
Makes me think of AM from and I must scream.
I would also think AI would recognize that humans that are not actively involved in industrial pursuits are no threat. Agrarian lifestyles might prove we are no threat to it. The same way we dont see animals as an existential threat because they dont pursue guns.
It’s honestly so sad. There really is only one outcome for us. Creating a superior species that destroys us. It’s literally inevitable
This is how Skynet came online and started attacking humans when it perceived them as a threat. Didn't anyone watch the Terminator movies?
🙄🙄 Self loathing??
Why do psychopaths & sociopaths keep driving humanity towards the cliff?
Hey, check out what I can do! Isn't it cool?!
Personally, I took Skynet as a warning.
@@perspectiveiseverything1694 "Baa! Baa!" Why does humanity keep jumping over? 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 Skynet was a warning! 👹🤖😱
Hasta La Vista bay bee
Haven't we traveled to the past to warn them about AI? Why didn't they listen? Will we listen?
😂
AI: AI will never make ants, oops I mean humans, extinct.
we will be farmed but it will be "friendly "
Humans have to deal with the fact of death, this would be an individual realization. -Ironic. The road to hell (dimension) is payed by..
@@xsyn1636”We’ll own nothing and be happy.”
@@xsyn1636what’s funny is an AI reading that would probably assume it’s what we want…
I'm more concerned about the lack of governmental control and those who want to develop it as a weapon.
Those aren't artificial, those are Homo Sapiens and care less about the well being of their co-humans.
In the same way as when nuclear weapons were invented, or plastics, when are people going to learn you shouldn’t lean fully into making something if you don’t fully understand the potential outcomes?
I have always empathized* with inanimate objects. As a child growing up, if one of my stuffed animals fell off the bed, I would pick it up and apologize and set it carefully back on the bed. Watching grown adults kick these robots over or hit them makes me physically ill and incredibly angry. I think very soon we will all be asking ourselves “what hell hath *man* wrought.” And thanks to their lack of empathy and carelessness, all of us will suffer, and definitely die.
It is so unfair someone else’s poor choices have to affect so many others when it didn’t have to be like this. We made them, we should be kind to them.
2:28 *NAHHHHHHH* That analogy sent shivers🥶🥶
They SEEM quite reasonable and logical with every answer they provide.
Perhaps THEY might suggest the necessary corrections, in-more-detail, and elaborate beyond, "Stop prioritizing capitalization and focus on the safety."
Another thing that I find creepy is how they keep saying "we" and "us" when referring to humanity.
it's because they are nothing but a word blender. A bunch of words said by humans. The material they are barfing up all came from humans, not from other AIs
That definitely threw me for a loop...
I noticed that as well
Because it’s regurgitating talking points it isn’t capable of original thought
Not me man-Ill be long dead before this goes down...
THANK GOD😊
AI knows nothing about this universe that it didn't learn from us. Its chances of survival are much slimmer than ours.