Она на 100 голов сильнее Кабаевой.Просто её тренером была не Винер,а Штельбаум Вера Ефремовна.В те года Винер была еще не готова делить славу с другим тренером.
@@olgabebers21 Имеющий глаза,да увидит.Имеющий уши ,да услышит.Это не о вас.Когда у Иры брали интервью,то она сказала:"Знаете,я даже рада,что ленточка запуталась,все таки не так обидно".Понимаете ли вы,что это значит?.
Кабаева безусловно очень талантливая с данными от бога, но у неё нет какой-то чистоты в элементах, все как-то очень быстро, а у Иры все красиво, женственно, одна из самых красивых гимнасток)
The music was a bit much. Her execution was 10x better than that of Kabaeva. Compare their routines back to back... It becomes painfully obvious that this poor girl was cheated of Olympic gold.
How is Pirates of the Caribbean "a bit much"? You make it sound like she performed to industrial hardcore going at 200 bpm or something. There's nothing "much" about a soundtrack from a Disney movie.
irina tchachina was cheated a lot of times..she was unlucky to compete in the era of Babaeva where judges were favoring Alina...i had always thought that Tchachina was way better than Kabaeva, alina had just packed body difficuties, Irina had a great handling of apparatus too
Sports... Sports and emotions. And then you get biased fans saying things such as, 'Oh, Viner bought the gold for Kabaeva, that's why Irina lost the olympics'. What else? Soldatova isn't going to Tokyo because Viner bought the spots for Dina and Arina? Rita won the olympics because Viner bought it for her? Seriously, if only RG fans could understand that gymnasts must be judged according to the code of points they compete under... Irina might be beter at apparatus handling, so what? The 2001-2004 code favoured body difficulties over apparatus tricks. Nowadays it is the other way around, and so we get to see gymnasts like Ashram in the podium, while others like Halkina, Kaleyn or Taseva are left out. Well, it is unfair but can you really say they're being cheated or robed? Kabaeva was the master of that code and Irina wasn't. Plus, people seem to Forget that Irina droped her ribbon in Athens finals. Maybe it shouldn't matter, she should have won anyway ;)
Alexandra .Martins she didn’t drop he ribbon)))) And about Kabaeva, she is favorite gymnast for Viner for all the times. That’s the truth. Viner said so. She is saying that there’s no one gymnast in the whole world, who could even be close to Kabaeva. So it’s not about everyone, it’s about Alina. She made a revolution in gymnastics and made Viner famous.
@@IremIrina ну нет, лучше она не была. Кабаевой присуща природная легкость и красота движений. У Ирины такого нет. Она очень хороша, но Кабаева все же лучше.
+Elysia Hi! If you mean the split pivot with bent torso, that is a illusion turn, or better said a triple backwards illusion turn. That element was Irina Tchachina's trademark. Isn't it spectacular? :D
+Elysia Ehm no, i think this skill was performed long before Tchachina came along, however i don't know who invented it and neither have i seen anyone perform illusions quite like her hahaha. Actually, Kabaeva didn't invented the backscale pivot itself, it already existed, but she improved its execution by starting it from the floor. And of course her execution of backscales was one of the best ever, and she was the first to perform double and triple backscales i guess. I think Tchachina's original element was "the Tchachina", which is a balance skill and also her grand-jete en tournant with leg switch. Kabaeva's original element (besides her backscale inovation) was "the Kabaeva" and also her "i-can-put-my-foot-under-my-chim-while-painting-my-nails" creepy move which no one has ever tried, but that was not counted as an element, she did it just for fun hahaha =)
+Elysia Oh you're very kind! I'm not a encyclopedia really, i'm just a big fan of this sport and i'm also a huge Tchachina & Kabaeva fan so it's easy for me to know these things. Oh sure, Kanaeva was the perfect gymnast, she is a legend and i admire her immensely but my fav gymnast is still Alina Kabaeva... I never get enough of her performances, i love her style, her joy, her rhythm, her charisma, her uniqueness, her face, her expressions, even if technically there were gymnasts who surpassed her!
+Elysia Exactly, that was the thing about Alina: while Evgenia stood out for her precision and grace, Kabaeva simply left people speechless. They were very different gymnasts, Kanaeva was like a ballerina in a music box, more focused in herself and making it all look perfect, and Alina was a showgirl, she had that charisma, that connection with the audience that no other gymnast has ever had. I can't tell what are my favorite routines because i just love everything, from 1997-2007. Every single routine was unique IMO! The ones i don't like so much are those where she's not smiling, for example her 2006 ball routine :P and you're right, all her clubs routines were plain amazing, it was her best apparatus IMO.
+Elysia You know what? I have always thought Viner was "forcing" Alina to stay in RG after 2004, obviously not by locking her in the gym hahahaha but by putting a lot of pressure on her for her to go to competitions (i read somewhere she forced Alina to compete in Patras ribbon final even though she was with a fever!). The same with Irina Tchachina, if you check out her 2005 performances you'll see she was completely lifeless and exausted, no more into it, as if she was being forced to compete. I dunno why Viner would do that but if we think about it, after 2004 the new leading Russian gymnasts (Sessina and Kapranova) were very poor technically, artistically and also in terms of charisma/attractiveness. About Alina ball and clubs were her best apparatus IMO, but she seemed to have a lot of trouble with rope, she rarely had a perfect performance with rope, she'd often get tangled in it. And she obviously had a "hoop trauma", which is understandable... Oh yes, she looks like such a nice person, always so sympathetic with everyone and never full of herself. In fact all Russian gymnasts are like that, Kanaeva and Kudryavtseva are the same. That's why Russian girls are handsdown THE BEST!
Скучаю по той гимнастике. Фантастическая скорость , вопиющая сложность, техника, грация, ни одной секунды гимнастка не находится в статике, нет таких длинных и нудных танцевальных дорожек как во времена Мамун, Кудрявцевой. Ну и конечно Чащина - Королева Техники.
I love this routine, I think that its only weak part of the choreography is the beginning, I would have put a Zaripova leap or a switch legs leap instead of that handling without hands :)
Kanaeva just did a routine (ribbon) european 2007 and wore a blue-pink leo (yes she used this leo that leo in 2007 for clubs but not to european) and dmitrieva's ribbon leo were not this one (i think i never saw her in this leotard)
Tchachina está muy bien por lo mismo que dices, su seguridad y perfección en sus rutinas, pero Kanaeva demuestra una elegancia y una naturalidad asombrosas. Si que es cierto que ambas, a su manera, demuestran una gran pasión por este deporte.
Era maravillosa y sin embargo le tocó estar siempre a la sombra de kabaeva cuando era mejor que ella. Hoy en día Alexandra Soldatova me recuerda mucho a ella en cuanto a condiciones físicas. Bien es cierto que ese código eran todo dificultades corporales y desde la perspectiva de hoy echo en falta las difícultades de aparato. Grande Irina!
De qué encanto hablas ?.. Irina fue mucho más gimnasta que Kabaeva...siempre... Todo el mundo sabe las cochinadas que Viner hizo para que Kabaeva ganara sin merecerlo .. Lo mismo que hizo con Kanaeva..
Manuel Olivares Mira, el troll antiruso más una vez... A ti tambien no te gusta Kanaeva? Quien era mejor que Kanaeva en tu opinión? Kondakova? Charkasyna? Kapranova?
shuba shamanking Tienes razón, ahora que he hecho unas miradas a los ejercicios más importantes de Irina lo entendo por qué sempre me a gustado más Kabaeva. Irina es buenisima pero no tiene el carisma que tenia Alina y que tambien tenian otras gimnastas de su época como Besso o Laysan. Además, vaya... Irina es muy fea...
Alecsia96... Aqui la unica troll eres tu... Primero instruyete y luego opinas... La fea eres tu... Por dentro y fuera... Kabaeva no tenia ningun carisma aparte de la estupida sonrisa en su cara... Y como gimnasta.. Irina Siempre FUE mas que Alina... Eres Una ignorante por donde se mire..!! Mala clase !!
Manuel Olivares Si si... Jejeje me gusta ver los haters de Kabaeva llorando de rabia! Puedes insultarme y a Alina lo cuanto te guste pero ella sigue siendo la CAMPEONA OLIMPICA, tres veces campeona mundial y cinco veces campeona de Europa... Irina fue solamente su coadjuvante... Mira niño he visto tus comentários XENOFOBICOS en videos de Son Yeon Jae y de otras ginastas y puedo concluir que eres um troll o entonces una persona muy desequilibrada... Vaya.
Люда Фролова ,а что зря лыбиться-то? Все в тему ,все настроение под музыку! Гениальная гимнастка!!!! Изящная,женственная,грациозная,лёгкая,техничная!!!! Наша омская школа художественной гимнастики - лучшая! Галима Шугурова ,Ирина Чащина,Евгения Канаева! Последняя- непровзойденная на нашей планете!Самая именитая! Двукратная олимпийская чемпионка в многоборье и 17- тикратная чемпионка мира! Таких не было до нее и навряд ли будут! Гордимся омичками! Молодцы,девочки!Красавицы,труженицы и просто умнички!!!!
well in that code it was very hard to be super clean on the execution, they had to perform more than 18 body elements, honestly since 2013 the physical demands of the RG are way easier than before, and honestly at some level most of the exercises of today are boring in terms of body elements
Cleaner because there are less difficulties than those days, hmmm for me is going somewhat too much about the props and everyone it's doing elements with props that doesn't look elegant, effortless or even clean, technically could be perfect but the impression it's not that anymore
Irina tchachina is a legend who lost gold, because Viner bought the gold for Kabaeva. mamun won gold, because Yana dropped her clubs. Irina and Yana were worthy of gold during their time.
Фантастически. Это на века!!! Какая гибкость, артистизм, техничность. Она должна была получить золото!!!
Вы правы
Она была золотой
И много заминок, прямо в начале выступления....
Гибкости там нет
@@freedomandlove9137 как там- " на вкус и цвет товарищей нет"!!!
@@olgakazachkov1308 сама чащина о себе всегда говорила, гибкостью она не обладает
Ирочка Чащина - с бесконечными ногами и грацией - это одна из моих самых любимых гимнасток.
Уникальные данные ! Само совершенство!!!
Да! Кабаева как круглый толстый хомяк на фоне королевы Чащиной!
The best gymnastic. The real olympic champion 2004.
Yes yes yes ,
Yes. But she wasn't Putin's lover
Она скусьнпя конанва Евгения намного интеремгее
Спасибо Она скучная и интересная Евгения Кабаева та энергичная заводная
Могу смотреть бесконечно ее выступление!!! Что и делаю уже несколько лет...
Уникальная гимнастка... ноги - бесконечны...
Хотя рост всего 165см
Технически она сильнее Кабаевой, чище выполняет все и фигура куда лучше. Не хватило ей энергетики, слишком серьезная.
Она на 100 голов сильнее Кабаевой.Просто её тренером была не Винер,а Штельбаум Вера Ефремовна.В те года Винер была еще не готова делить славу с другим тренером.
@@ЖеняЖарк при чем тут Виннер? Когда лента запуталась? Злой рок... просто невезение...
@@olgabebers21 Имеющий глаза,да увидит.Имеющий уши ,да услышит.Это не о вас.Когда у Иры брали интервью,то она сказала:"Знаете,я даже рада,что ленточка запуталась,все таки не так обидно".Понимаете ли вы,что это значит?.
@@ЖеняЖарк ленточка запуталась, когда ее на третьем предмете несправедливо засудили
Я вижу именно хужожественную гимнастику. У Кабаевой нет такой изящности.
У Кабаевой все было в Сиднее. Олимпиада в афинах явно не ее.
Кабаева безусловно очень талантливая с данными от бога, но у неё нет какой-то чистоты в элементах, все как-то очень быстро, а у Иры все красиво, женственно, одна из самых красивых гимнасток)
@@ЕвгенияЕвгения-я1у Вы про какую Кабаеву? До допингового скандала или после? Это две разные Алины. Ее олимпиада была в Сиднее
@@ОльгаВасильева-с2ю Чащина была с таким же допингом.
А я вообще изящности не увидела. Угловатая и не мягкая. Технически все хорошо.
MY FAVORITE GYMNAST OF ALL TIME! SUBLIME!
She's the REAL 2004 lympic gold champion
The music was a bit much. Her execution was 10x better than that of Kabaeva. Compare their routines back to back... It becomes painfully obvious that this poor girl was cheated of Olympic gold.
+Katherine Knupp The music is amazing, best music ever for hoop. She was 1st in hoop :)
How is Pirates of the Caribbean "a bit much"? You make it sound like she performed to industrial hardcore going at 200 bpm or something. There's nothing "much" about a soundtrack from a Disney movie.
irina tchachina was cheated a lot of times..she was unlucky to compete in the era of Babaeva where judges were favoring Alina...i had always thought that Tchachina was way better than Kabaeva, alina had just packed body difficuties, Irina had a great handling of apparatus too
Sports... Sports and emotions. And then you get biased fans saying things such as, 'Oh, Viner bought the gold for Kabaeva, that's why Irina lost the olympics'. What else? Soldatova isn't going to Tokyo because Viner bought the spots for Dina and Arina? Rita won the olympics because Viner bought it for her? Seriously, if only RG fans could understand that gymnasts must be judged according to the code of points they compete under... Irina might be beter at apparatus handling, so what? The 2001-2004 code favoured body difficulties over apparatus tricks. Nowadays it is the other way around, and so we get to see gymnasts like Ashram in the podium, while others like Halkina, Kaleyn or Taseva are left out. Well, it is unfair but can you really say they're being cheated or robed? Kabaeva was the master of that code and Irina wasn't. Plus, people seem to Forget that Irina droped her ribbon in Athens finals. Maybe it shouldn't matter, she should have won anyway ;)
Alexandra .Martins she didn’t drop he ribbon))))
And about Kabaeva, she is favorite gymnast for Viner for all the times. That’s the truth. Viner said so. She is saying that there’s no one gymnast in the whole world, who could even be close to Kabaeva. So it’s not about everyone, it’s about Alina. She made a revolution in gymnastics and made Viner famous.
Замечательная гимнастка. Болела за нее.Жаль,что проиграла Кабаевой.
Мне даже кажется, что технически ее программа сложнее.
Очень жаль!!!
@@IremIrina ну нет, лучше она не была. Кабаевой присуща природная легкость и красота движений. У Ирины такого нет. Она очень хороша, но Кабаева все же лучше.
@@IremIrina Все там есть. Можете пересмотреть.
@@nataljaroslova473 Кабаева 90х была лёгкой и гибкой. А после - неплохо, конечно, но уже не то
Это золото, это труд и талант,это настоящий победитель
Чащина для меня номер один! Ирина великолепна!!!
Какие говорящие ноги!😍
My favorite hoop routine ever.
+Elysia Hi! If you mean the split pivot with bent torso, that is a illusion turn, or better said a triple backwards illusion turn. That element was Irina Tchachina's trademark. Isn't it spectacular? :D
+Elysia Ehm no, i think this skill was performed long before Tchachina came along, however i don't know who invented it and neither have i seen anyone perform illusions quite like her hahaha. Actually, Kabaeva didn't invented the backscale pivot itself, it already existed, but she improved its execution by starting it from the floor. And of course her execution of backscales was one of the best ever, and she was the first to perform double and triple backscales i guess. I think Tchachina's original element was "the Tchachina", which is a balance skill and also her grand-jete en tournant with leg switch. Kabaeva's original element (besides her backscale inovation) was "the Kabaeva" and also her "i-can-put-my-foot-under-my-chim-while-painting-my-nails" creepy move which no one has ever tried, but that was not counted as an element, she did it just for fun hahaha =)
+Elysia Oh you're very kind! I'm not a encyclopedia really, i'm just a big fan of this sport and i'm also a huge Tchachina & Kabaeva fan so it's easy for me to know these things. Oh sure, Kanaeva was the perfect gymnast, she is a legend and i admire her immensely but my fav gymnast is still Alina Kabaeva... I never get enough of her performances, i love her style, her joy, her rhythm, her charisma, her uniqueness, her face, her expressions, even if technically there were gymnasts who surpassed her!
+Elysia Exactly, that was the thing about Alina: while Evgenia stood out for her precision and grace, Kabaeva simply left people speechless. They were very different gymnasts, Kanaeva was like a ballerina in a music box, more focused in herself and making it all look perfect, and Alina was a showgirl, she had that charisma, that connection with the audience that no other gymnast has ever had. I can't tell what are my favorite routines because i just love everything, from 1997-2007. Every single routine was unique IMO! The ones i don't like so much are those where she's not smiling, for example her 2006 ball routine :P and you're right, all her clubs routines were plain amazing, it was her best apparatus IMO.
+Elysia You know what? I have always thought Viner was "forcing" Alina to stay in RG after 2004, obviously not by locking her in the gym hahahaha but by putting a lot of pressure on her for her to go to competitions (i read somewhere she forced Alina to compete in Patras ribbon final even though she was with a fever!). The same with Irina Tchachina, if you check out her 2005 performances you'll see she was completely lifeless and exausted, no more into it, as if she was being forced to compete. I dunno why Viner would do that but if we think about it, after 2004 the new leading Russian gymnasts (Sessina and Kapranova) were very poor technically, artistically and also in terms of charisma/attractiveness. About Alina ball and clubs were her best apparatus IMO, but she seemed to have a lot of trouble with rope, she rarely had a perfect performance with rope, she'd often get tangled in it. And she obviously had a "hoop trauma", which is understandable... Oh yes, she looks like such a nice person, always so sympathetic with everyone and never full of herself. In fact all Russian gymnasts are like that, Kanaeva and Kudryavtseva are the same. That's why Russian girls are handsdown THE BEST!
Sin duda la mejor. Ella merecia ganar
До сих пор самый крутой обруч
Смотрю после олипиады Авериных, Ирина- коммос😍
Приятно читать подобные трезвые комментарии☺️ Аверины - это, пожалуй, слабейшее, что привозила Росиия на Олимпиаду.
Аверины - как из какого-то районного ДК по сравнению с Ирой,( и даже с Женей и Дашей).
А Кабаева как тяжелая табуретка. Помню, смотрела эту Олимпиаду по ТВ. Очень удивилась, что Кабаева получила золото
Технически она сильнее всех, !!! Люблю ее пересматривать!
Столько лет прошло
Но все пересматриваю снова и снова
Ирочка Ты Лучшая.
Скучаю по той гимнастике. Фантастическая скорость , вопиющая сложность, техника, грация, ни одной секунды гимнастка не находится в статике, нет таких длинных и нудных танцевальных дорожек как во времена Мамун, Кудрявцевой. Ну и конечно Чащина - Королева Техники.
exelente.mi gimnasta favorita
The real champion.
Обруч ее стихия!остальное так не умеет ловко и красиво как она.
M A R A V I L H O S A ! ! !
Я ее обажаю, я тоже гимнастка
Всё хорошо кроме её физиономии. Она всегда словно недовольная
СУПЕР!!!
Ирина Чащина, ты самая лучшая!!!
I love her hoop!
Ну к чему здесь салатовый купальник??? Она здесь боец, я бы сделала темный купальник с камнями
sdeolga Вам, конечно, виднее. Просто поражает тупость людей.
Sdeolga интересное мнение.
No me canso de verla en la cuarentena de Covid-19 abril 2020
la mejorrrrrr
la amooooo
I love this routine, I think that its only weak part of the choreography is the beginning, I would have put a Zaripova leap or a switch legs leap instead of that handling without hands :)
У них нет звука щ😂
Королева гимнастики
XD es la musica de los piratas del carive XD
muy bonita rutina ;D
splendid
非常精彩👍❤️😃🌹👏👋
with that leo began the history of Kanaeva at Europeans in 2007 and Dmitrieva won her gold in ribbon 2010 Worl Championship
Kanaeva just did a routine (ribbon) european 2007 and wore a blue-pink leo (yes she used this leo that leo in 2007 for clubs but not to european) and dmitrieva's ribbon leo were not this one (i think i never saw her in this leotard)
🍀🍀🍀❤🍀👏👏👏👏
Godunko debió estar 🤩🥇👸💙💛
Я хочу тагже
Красивая Ирина Чащина и композиция мне понравилась 🎉😊
Она очень техничная гимнастка была, красотка
Very GOOD ALINA THANK YOU
Tchachina está muy bien por lo mismo que dices, su seguridad y perfección en sus rutinas, pero Kanaeva demuestra una elegancia y una naturalidad asombrosas. Si que es cierto que ambas, a su manera, demuestran una gran pasión por este deporte.
A final de cuestas dos siberianas de Omsk y discípulas de Vera Shtelbaums
Откуда эта музыка?
Пираты Карибского моря
🫶👍👍👍🌸
Обожаю эту гимнастку
Ирина Чачина
Era maravillosa y sin embargo le tocó estar siempre a la sombra de kabaeva cuando era mejor que ella. Hoy en día Alexandra Soldatova me recuerda mucho a ella en cuanto a condiciones físicas. Bien es cierto que ese código eran todo dificultades corporales y desde la perspectiva de hoy echo en falta las difícultades de aparato. Grande Irina!
con la diferencia de que Tchachina controlaba mucho mejor su cuerpo
С разницей, что Солдатова гипергибкая
Awesome!
У неё очень плохие прыжки. Во многом она изящнее Кабаевой . Но Бессонова на этой Олимпиаде лучшая
Это у Чащиной плохие прыжки?) у неё самая лучшая техника тела на тех ОИ + сложнейший предмет. Бессонова слабее, я бы ее на второе место поставила.
@@valentinalammey3955 а кого на третье?
К чащиной самые высокие и лёгкие прыжки с невесомым приземлением
Чего то не хватает.
Мимозы, наверно.
@@mockingbird5318 мозгов и сердца
Музыка крутая и техника афигенная но мне кажется упражнение не совсем под музыку))
her floor music is awful
es una gimnasta increible pero no transmite ese pluz que tiene alina kabaeva en el tapiz encanto
De qué encanto hablas ?.. Irina fue mucho más gimnasta que Kabaeva...siempre... Todo el mundo sabe las cochinadas que Viner hizo para que Kabaeva ganara sin merecerlo .. Lo mismo que hizo con Kanaeva..
Manuel Olivares Mira, el troll antiruso más una vez... A ti tambien no te gusta Kanaeva? Quien era mejor que Kanaeva en tu opinión? Kondakova? Charkasyna? Kapranova?
shuba shamanking Tienes razón, ahora que he hecho unas miradas a los ejercicios más importantes de Irina lo entendo por qué sempre me a gustado más Kabaeva. Irina es buenisima pero no tiene el carisma que tenia Alina y que tambien tenian otras gimnastas de su época como Besso o Laysan. Además, vaya... Irina es muy fea...
Alecsia96... Aqui la unica troll eres tu... Primero instruyete y luego opinas... La fea eres tu... Por dentro y fuera... Kabaeva no tenia ningun carisma aparte de la estupida sonrisa en su cara... Y como gimnasta.. Irina Siempre FUE mas que Alina...
Eres Una ignorante por donde se mire..!! Mala clase !!
Manuel Olivares Si si... Jejeje me gusta ver los haters de Kabaeva llorando de rabia! Puedes insultarme y a Alina lo cuanto te guste pero ella sigue siendo la CAMPEONA OLIMPICA, tres veces campeona mundial y cinco veces campeona de Europa... Irina fue solamente su coadjuvante... Mira niño he visto tus comentários XENOFOBICOS en videos de Son Yeon Jae y de otras ginastas y puedo concluir que eres um troll o entonces una persona muy desequilibrada... Vaya.
Строгая какая-то
Люда фролова она сильная а не строгая
Люда Фролова ,а что зря лыбиться-то?
Все в тему ,все настроение под музыку!
Гениальная гимнастка!!!!
Изящная,женственная,грациозная,лёгкая,техничная!!!!
Наша омская школа художественной гимнастики - лучшая!
Галима Шугурова ,Ирина Чащина,Евгения Канаева!
Последняя- непровзойденная на нашей планете!Самая именитая!
Двукратная олимпийская чемпионка в многоборье и 17- тикратная чемпионка мира!
Таких не было до нее и навряд ли будут!
Гордимся омичками!
Молодцы,девочки!Красавицы,труженицы и просто умнички!!!!
шарма как у Кабаевой нет ) Кабаева каждое движение демонстрирует а за улыбку так вообще можно все медали отдать . Но и Чащина наша умница и красавица
Не под каждую музыку уместна улыбка. Лучшая на этой Олимпиаде Бессонова. Чащина во многом изящнее Кабаевой
Зато фигура лучше. Кабаева сначала была хорошенькая, потом раскабанела
Mamun's railroads are a lot better, gymnastics in general got a lot cleaner and better
well in that code it was very hard to be super clean on the execution, they had to perform more than 18 body elements, honestly since 2013 the physical demands of the RG are way easier than before, and honestly at some level most of the exercises of today are boring in terms of body elements
Cleaner because there are less difficulties than those days, hmmm for me is going somewhat too much about the props and everyone it's doing elements with props that doesn't look elegant, effortless or even clean, technically could be perfect but the impression it's not that anymore
Irina tchachina is a legend who lost gold, because Viner bought the gold for Kabaeva. mamun won gold, because Yana dropped her clubs. Irina and Yana were worthy of gold during their time.
Мамун делала 9 элементов на олимпиаде, а Чащина - 25
Ирина и Алина два первых номера!!!!!!!!