An easy trick Bicep uses to make their sounds more epic
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Here's a tiny video for a simple concept: let's look at how Bicep raises their "sustain" level at the climax of their track to super-charge their otherwise plucky wavey synth sound.
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Contents:
00:00 that apricots envelope technique
00:34 the pluck envelope that becomes a drone
1:33 the bicep trick: raising the sustain
1:58 showing it in practice
2:30 example with the beat
3:14 learn how to make electronic music yourself
3:25 oscar dissolves into a dimension of warm pixels
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This guy loves ableton midi notes so much that he painted them all over his walls
Hi underdog, i really like how you are able to break down very small things into interesting videos. I mostly click on your vids because of that, because you are able to give me the info i want i a few minutes. Great job, great song and great dancing mate :D
Fabulous video: Concise, useful and inspirational.
A great example of how to play and articulate the sounds that we spend so much time designing.
Thank you Oscar for sharing your knowledge, as always! I’ve learned so much from your channel.
Hey, thanks a lot for this video. I love these short videos on specific sound design topics 🥳🤗
Love this tip Oscar, thanks for making these great videos!
Brilliant, will try this technique. I already mess around with opening up the decay and sometimes release but didn't think of this. Thanks Oscar.
Wow man this was so well presented and entertaining, thanks!
I appreciate you Underdog. And not just for your dance moves
This is great! Not only is it exactly the kind of content I've been looking for you even got the smooth visual effects going. Love it, man! Awesome demo
Thanks! I don't have a background in filmmaking at all so always experimenting in little ways to find my visual "voice" if that makes sense. It's a process! 😁
Love these shorter straight to the point vids! Also like the technical stuff but it's cool to be able to try things out because it's easy to remember
words cannot describe the pure treasure that is this channel !!! ♥
Nice edit and valuable inspiration, Oscar - Bisous !
It's strange how the use of ADSR controls has led to the *duration* of the attack stage begin called "attack" in the synth community... whereas if you told a violinist you wanted them to play with "more attack", they would do the exact opposite: the attack would be shorter because they'd be trying to make it more aggressive. Topsy turvy situation, but I think it's too late now to change the language - we're stuck with it :D
Maybe more accurate to say “faster” or “shorter” attack, rather than “more” attack. If you told me you wanted “more attack”, I wouldn’t know where to start. 😮
@@NathanielPaffettLugassy just tell the midfielders to get in the box....
IMHO it's not topsy turvy at all: it's the envelope attacking the note as it is played, not the player attacking the instrument. As the note continues it eventually overcomes the envelopes effect only to begin subsiding as it drops back "within" the envelope as *the envelope* begins to decay (slower than the note for "more decay"). It might be helpful to think of it, instead of being like your violinist example, as like the violinist's mum, hurriedly closing the kid's bedroom door to keep that awful cat strangling racket to a barely tolerable masochistic aural sacrifice in the misguided hope of one day riding on a virtuoso's coat tails, then cautiously reopening it when it seems like the eyepeelingly terrifying cacophony is coming to a close. Every note (poor mum! If only we could automate her arm with some sort of technology...)
@@therealmber Haha! That's quite an elaborate scenario you just painted - thanks for the smiles :) I think my preference will be to stick to what @NathanielPaffettLugassy suggested and say "faster" and "slower". Probably makes the most sense for most people, I think.
It’s to do with how the two performers interact with their instruments though that informs the language. Synthesists are turning dials and pressing keys, violinists are physically hitting the strings with a bow. In this context “more attack” to a violinist makes sense for the sound to be shorter and more angled.
Great tutorial. Sometimes the simple things make the best impact. Much appreciated!!
Thanks as always, Oscar‼️
You're a great techno teacher🤩
short and sweet, thank you !
Excellent - Thank you Oscar 👍
Awesome stuff! Would love this patch
This is a superb little tutorial. I am still relatively new to this game, so managing all those parameters is a little overwhelming. I understand that's why we use macros, but for some reason, I still don't have a lot of confidence applying it. You are helping me overcome my stage fright!
If you are an Ableton/M4L user then the Midi Envelope device is your friend..... Also check out all the toys in the 'Modulators' folder.
Just loop a few bars of the plucks and have at it with the attack, decay and cutoff parameters. You'll get a feeling for it pretty fast. Extra fun when you map the parameters to a hardware controller.
Short but sweet. Seems like a very useful little tip. Thanks!
Love Bicep, love Underdog, I'm here for this 👌👌 Thanks for the breakdown!
I love you bro ❤😂
I didnt knew it but that was actually the tutorial i was looking for and you explained it in a short and entertaining way. goat
so much easier to digest videos like this format thank u
Great vid again! Thanks 🙏🏻 That actually works great on a eurorack modular synth system too 👍🏻
Amazing Trick! Thank you for sharing it!
OMG so all this time I've been making this swelling sound of a synth more complicated by running it through an effect bus with delay and reverb, while layering them to reach this "epic" point..... as usual i tend to make thing more complicated 😅. I'm happy to see this tip on making it easier without having the trouble of taming the layered delay/reverbs without my cpu will thank you!😁
oh my.... a true professor. whatta tip. whatta didatic. unbelievable
thank you 🙏🏼❤️
Thanks for the tip. Ive seen them live 5 times. You could call me obsessed. They are the best live electronic music artists Ive seen
awesome. I'm in love with that song
Basic trick, yet really powerful. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome. Definitely sparked something. Thanks😘
Brillinat video mate, short sweet and to the point 👍
Great tips! Thanks a lot!
Love this simple kind of ideas to experiment with
Giving me shivers and flashbacks to seeing them live recently 😅 cool short tutorial, thanks 👍
This was very helpful!
Thanks for another great tutorial!
Great little tutorial, cheers
Nice advice, thanks!
Great Tip,Could you Please make more like this
Dude this sounds just amazing
Fantastic video, thank you
Good to see you, Oscar!
Eyyy Autosad 💙
Apricots is my favourite Bicep track, and it took me [swearword] EONS to try and replicate that sound. Where were you a year ago?!?! You made it look way easier than I did.
Hey Oscar, *Bisous!* 😘
Looks like you enjoy _dancing_ and _"posterize"_ visual effect just like me
great video!
Fantastic tip
Once again great video.
sick trick! thanks for sharing
Short and sweet!
I'm doing that literally ALL the time when I want to launch the proverbial rocket! Mark that as the first time ever where I didn't learn something from you. 😄
Awesome video nevertheless! It's one of the best tips for trance music imho.
😁 gotta keep the tips accessible, though sadly that will mean that some of my videos will be too basic for ya eventually!
@@OscarUnderdog Usually they are far from too basic. I learned sooo much from you.
It's pure coincidence that this is one of my favourite techniques. And I obviously realise you are not creating these videos exclusively for me. 😄 Ace content as usual!
Sick visual effect at :45 !
Love Bicep. Love this channel. Love that little dance ❤
It's also fun to automate unison detune, wet/dry on a ott or compressor, distortion, stereo width etc.!
Its crazy how good they are live and surprising. Everytime its a different show & still the best dawless artist i've every witnessed. Going to see them again at Pukkelpop. Amazing guys, great show & they are so good in using simple tricks and synths to create something out of this world. Also dikke merci voor de melodic cursus! Was de moeite! 😆😄
Bicep uses Ableton in their live show. It's not DAWless.
From their Reddit Q&A:
"Ableton sends out tonne of midi and samples, then we've also sp16 and tr8s/adx1. It's a big mixture tbh
atm - Sh101 x2, mackie desk, loads of pedals (boss comps, eq) Sp16, adx1, eventide time factor and space pedals, roland sbx, RNC FMR x 2, Roland Tr8s, Modular setup
Main idea is, toplines and bass are totally live on Sh101s. Some basic pads and vocals come from ableton, alongside very basic structural loops, then live drum machines over the top of them. All squeezed with lots of compressors and limiters and send/return fx (Delay, reverb) on the desk via Eventide pedals"
@@GuyGamer1 very nice to hear. would you recommend using limiters on everything separately too in a live situation? I've got a simular setup but more elektron/moog orientated with a x32 producer next to it. Its possible but will kill a lot of my send/returns
Great video
thank you!
Thank you 🙏
Love to play round with envelopes. Thanks mate. 🎉
Great analysis !
I feel like that sustain "trick" was also used by Caribou on his Our love album
Nice! Some great tips here - you CAN teach an old dog new tricks🐶
That was awesome
Lavender, dawn, the sea, and Underdogs videos I like.
nice bro! thank you
Amazing trick thanks a lot and bisous 😊
Bicep are legends. Saw them live in San Fran, but was disappointed compared to some of their old stuff like Ava festival sets.
I've been fecking around with this concept for ages now and get lost in the sound easily. Then I forget what I wanted to do.
Your channel is really inspiring!
Also, finally have finished the foundations course I can highly recommend it to everyone looking for a good, structured intro to electronic music production. Felt a bit pricey when I was buying it, but oh boy was it worth every cent! I think in terms of money and time it's just the perfect balance. It's somewhere in between learning on your own from RUclips (takes a lot of time; is frustrating for the lack of structure and inability to understand what is relevant at your level and what's not) and having a personal tutor or visiting a school (great for personalized experience and structure but expensive).
P.S. I am not affiliated with Oscar. Just a big fan of his teaching style :)
Much appreciated!! 🙌
oscaaar!! yeaah! short and powerfull , like punk rock! thxs masteeeer! ♥
One of my favourite techniques for sure. Unapologetically automating, ADSR, delay, and reverb to take up loads of space.
Then sidechaining the kick, of course. 😉
Neat! Though slowing down your moves during sustain would illustrate it better :P
Good moved, cool tip, Oscar!
Superb, simple tip, cleanly communicated and easy to replicate as a result.
Never even though of doing this with my plucks.
Many thanks as always Oscar - must book myself onto one of your courses. 😀
Lovely educational video. Very precise and to the point.
I'm in the process of setting up a dj 505 using serato as a master time synced with a digitone and running ableton live as a slave to serato with an 8 chanel audio interface all running through a korg zero 4..
Any tips on capturing it all live or just generally..?
i figure this trick out myself through listening to lots of trance music, but great tip for beginner producers.
Cool tutorial ! Like ur visual too, make me want to party
Funny, cool and interesting video. somthing to learn for. Bisous ! Love huge pixels !
super fast super good !
King
dope visuals.. wondering how you make those hehe
Amazing very inspiring! I love this sound so much!! Can you please tell me how I can reproduce it in Serum? 🙏
Hi Oscar, could you maybe create tutorial on how to make some sick sequencers?
This was very entertaining and fun! And the dance is epic! THANK YOU! ✨
cheers
Would be cool if you could share some of your process when analysing a track to make these videos
Interestingly enough i did actually a much bigger analysis on my patreon 😁
Love this trick, love bicep and great video as always!
This camera distorts the shape of your face btw, makes you look very different to your other videos
Was it done with a webcam or phone camera? The quality looks fine. but it looks like a lens that’s optimised for being further away from the subject
I don’t mind caricature Oscar, teaching me neat tips about music production, but if I had to choose, I prefer regular Oscar! ❤
Hahah its a very wide angle one! Trying it out as it distorts a lot but also shows a lot of the room and context, which is a fun vibe!
New trick. Cheers bro
may god or whatever higher being there may be protect this youtuber forever please
Love it! ❤
Bisous !
@Oscar, dude my daughter loves watching your videos with me as I learn Ableton. There is a ton of information and videos on ‘tricks’ and techniques to implement in developing a sound. Thank you so much for making these videos and being gracious in the way you present them. Please make a rudimentary intro video for kids so my daughter can follow along and understand. That probably sounds like a lot, but it’d be interesting to see what you can do by teaching at level 0 and working up gradually. I hope that helps where your next idea wants to flow. Be good to each other.
Thats such a cute idea! How old is she?
@@OscarUnderdog She’s almost a very precocious 5 year old.
Quick rant about Bicep: I think their music is great and they played an awesome live set when I saw them. However, I stayed for most of their set at a festival but left a bit early to catch a DJ at a smaller stage. Me and a bunch of others were dancing like crazy directly in front of the DJ when Bicep finished up their set and came over to watch. Thought it was cool at first but they ended up budging people out and just standing directly in front of the DJ, not dancing, trying to talk to people behind the decks, and blocking everyone else’s view (it was a really small, intimate stage). It felt disrespectful to the DJ that was playing and those who were enjoying the set. It kind of ruined the energy and it came off really pompous of them. I like their music but that moment really threw me off.
Sorry, this is unrelated to the video but it just reminded me of it. Thanks for the tutorial Oscar, your videos always inspire me tremendously🙏
well i've been using this technique for decades, is something overused for trance producers, maybe for techno-house producers now that the style has evolved into more melodic/atmospheric this is good to know
First-time commentor here on one of your videos. I've been binge-watching all of them for the last three days ❤
Two things that are slightly off-topic: 1) wow, what a tear-jerking sound, and 2) would it be possible to quickly share how that chord progression works?
I'm new to theory and have watched yours and a few other videos on it. I'm curious if all the notes here are chords (maybe triads?) Or instead, is it just "a bass note and a single key note"? I'm clearly new here, thanks Oscar :)
I should indeed do something about it as its interesting!
Whoa... 😮❤
I think this technique was done perfectly in Teisto's Silence remix. It opens up in an obvious way at the drop/ chorus bit in a kinda cliche way, but if you listen to the bass, it's envelopes are constantly opening and closing creating a rolling flow throughout the whole track. Of course Sarah's vocal steals the show but there is enough going on underneath to save the track from being the generic vanilla trance, with token female vocal, that became the norm after Silence was released
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Thank youuu!! What kind of preset/synth is that?💫
goosebumps
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