I gave them an idea... keep like this 6/6, but increase the ammo pool... you spawn with 6/6 but if you find ammo ingame you can go to 6/9.. the same with High Velocity because they nerfed the ammo pool for no reason.
@BrenoAmado if the end goal is 6/9 why go the runaround when you can just revert the nerf and hell speaking of high V it wouldn't be unreasonable to give the uppercut it since the ammo reduction would bring it back down to 6/6 as well
@BrenoAmado and rather than having a further discussion about what may be wrong with my suggestions and insulting me shows you don't want balance you only want what you want balance be damned
I genuinely think they should reduce the price at this point. It does sub 125 now and has a ruduced ammo capacity. They haven't touched the price at all. Not saying to make it cheap, just fix the price accordingly.
Honestly I wouldnt even think of buying it above 250 dollars in this state. Seems like its like that for most players. I have seen only a handfull of uppercuts in my games since the big update (in 6*). There was 0 reasons for the nerf, I literally dont understand the reasons behind it.
@@mcchickennugIt's not really about economy, it's more about how it feels to buy this gun. I have no problem buying, say, nitro shredder (1240$), because the gun worth it, even after all the recent nerfs, but uppercut... I have around 70K$ on my account, and I'd still not buy it, it's just not worth 414$, and the alternatives are simply better, like pax trueshot fmj or uppermat. Not saying that current money economy is alright, tho.
@@hornetlul xD Nope, 'tis Gunz: The Duel actually, good guess though. Very classic game. I got the order slightly wrong admittedly. If you pulled off the impossible 'twould be "Faaaaaaaaaaantastic! Excellent! UNBELIEVABLE! Faaaaaantastic!" One of the rarest narrator callouts in existence until you really mastered your apm and techniques.
They should definetly revert the ammo change atleast. I've never really found the uppercut oppressive. It's a slow hardhitting pistol, if you miss you're dead in many situations. Dolch for example is 100x more oppressive and doesn't even punish you for missing a shot. Uppercut is just a stronger conversion with a MUCH higher pricetag.
This is a perfect Nerf; the 6 + 9 Reserve for the regular uppercut had the same ammo reserve for Mosin Obrez. Its to nerf your cringe shotgun + Uppercut Loadouts (usually people only need Muzzle velocity, muzzle velocity is king) So if you want to cover both close range AND long range effectively, You're now gonna need to invest more like quartermaster with optional perks like Iron eye or bullet grubber.
1:17 I go crazy when this happens, this game has a terrible bug in this revive, if you take too long to take the shot, it ends up in god mod. If not, that's the bad tickrate of this game.. The game is too punishing to have these defects.. The bullet was 100% in it.
Hey Hornet, question, did you feel any changes with leading shots since the update ? It might just be me but I haven't been able to lead any shots correctly since the hit reg/trade window changes, did you feel anything?
Cmon Crytek... USE YOUR BRAINS... They nerfed High Velocity and FMJ, removed Dumdum from most ammo (there is no long ammo Dumdum for a reason)... what you think was going to happen? People surely would go back to long ammo every day.
I mean I'm not complaining that dumdum got reduced. Couldn't go a fight without centennial dumdum just spamming me down. I think the gun variety is pretty good right now. Honestly with the penetration updates, I have been finding it harder to enjoy light ammo though. I think med and long ammo are in good spots now.
@@koyomiararagi3018 Sure.. i parcially agree with you... but why istead of "removing dumdum", why not just buff Bloodless? Remember the 'Infernal Pact': Bloodless (Conditional effect) - Bleeding stops automatically because your wounds are cauterized, 1s after bleeding starts. Make Bloodless do something like that... it'll stop the bleeding automatically... maybe instead of instantly, make a 3 seconds timer to stop bleeding. Crytek don't realise that EVERY SINGLE nerf to Compact and Medium is a buff to the already meta Long Ammo.
Hunt inflation is real, weapons cost more but perform worse than they have before, Avtomat, uppercut, haymaker, shredder, etc. If you nerf a weapon then you should also reduce the price to compensate.
Crytek is already thinking hmmm how can we take away the core game structure but ruining a high powered slow firing gun and buff another semi auto cod style rifle?
" we evaluate that uppercut is still strong and cool gun we wiuld further improvise it by nerfing the gun to only having 6/0 ammo increase the price to 610 (because soybaby said pocket rifle too strong) and dropping the damage to 91 to match the conversion variant we will also dropping the bullet drop range to 45 and to further balance the game we will buff the cyclone again" -crytek balancing team after snorting 10kg of kokaina
Prior to nerf I found nothing wrong with the balance of the pistols, I would see such a huge variety of pistols and medium slot side arms being used. Post nerf, it's all Dolches and Bornheims in every match. It just seems like crytek nerfs things for no good reason sometimes and yet bows are still an insta-kill up to like 100 meters because of blademancer being broken.
I could not care less about the Uppercut, for the longest time it was annoying as fuck. It one-tapped people with a small bar missing. You had enough ammo to last you most fights. The sway is not really an issue. It is long ammo, so it retains damage over long distance. Yeah sure it had some downsides, but it had much more upsides, to a point where not taking it was handcapping yourself. It was basically the Mosin of sidearms - the most boring ass, meta gun for sweatlords.
Yeah that’s not how gun physics work. Heavier rifle cartridges travel significantly further and faster than compact ammo. The increased mass means the bullet has more momentum to push through air for longer, reducing the effects of drag and allowing it to travel further. They did it to try to nerf the long ammo meta, but if we were going for realism the system needs to be inverted, long ammo should have the least drop while compact should have the most. They just should not of added bullet drop to this game to begin with, nobody asked for it.
Next nerf for the Uppercut: special ammo and only 3 rounds for reloading, you also only loot one round out of a special ammo crate
Also add bullet deviation, because why the hell not
Genuinely if they revert the ammo count nerf and slashed the price tag of the thing it would be in a good spot
I gave them an idea... keep like this 6/6, but increase the ammo pool... you spawn with 6/6 but if you find ammo ingame you can go to 6/9.. the same with High Velocity because they nerfed the ammo pool for no reason.
@BrenoAmado if the end goal is 6/9 why go the runaround when you can just revert the nerf and hell speaking of high V it wouldn't be unreasonable to give the uppercut it since the ammo reduction would bring it back down to 6/6 as well
@jaredwhitten2876 i think you don't know what game balance means, right?
@BrenoAmado and rather than having a further discussion about what may be wrong with my suggestions and insulting me shows you don't want balance you only want what you want balance be damned
@@jaredwhitten2876 Stop man.. you'll only make It worse by adding High Velocity to long ammo.
Im assuming they did the ammo nerf because people use the uppercut as an ammo slave but forgot that some people actually use it as a real weapon!
Even if that's the case, the sparks pistol has way more reserve ammo and is cheaper.
I genuinely think they should reduce the price at this point. It does sub 125 now and has a ruduced ammo capacity. They haven't touched the price at all. Not saying to make it cheap, just fix the price accordingly.
Honestly I wouldnt even think of buying it above 250 dollars in this state. Seems like its like that for most players. I have seen only a handfull of uppercuts in my games since the big update (in 6*). There was 0 reasons for the nerf, I literally dont understand the reasons behind it.
@@tom74769 the money economy is fucked, if you cant afford a 400 dollar gun then you are doing something wrong
@@mcchickennug exactly, at the previous event i ran nitro+avtomat for a little money dump still got like half a mill XD
@@mcchickennugIt's not really about economy, it's more about how it feels to buy this gun. I have no problem buying, say, nitro shredder (1240$), because the gun worth it, even after all the recent nerfs, but uppercut... I have around 70K$ on my account, and I'd still not buy it, it's just not worth 414$, and the alternatives are simply better, like pax trueshot fmj or uppermat.
Not saying that current money economy is alright, tho.
You buy it for the muzzle velocity
1:22 Unbelievable! Faaaaaaantastic! Excellent! Faaaaaantastic!
If you get the reference, you the realest of OGs
im sure ur refrencing combat arms but if you are its ultra kill , fantastic , unbeliveable , unbeliveable+
@@hornetlul xD Nope, 'tis Gunz: The Duel actually, good guess though. Very classic game. I got the order slightly wrong admittedly.
If you pulled off the impossible 'twould be "Faaaaaaaaaaantastic! Excellent! UNBELIEVABLE! Faaaaaantastic!" One of the rarest narrator callouts in existence until you really mastered your apm and techniques.
@@hornetlul sheesh this was so good in the days
How did you get real life footage of the crytek dev team in that clip ??
Crytek Dev Reaction... where? I wanna see something...
celet hi
Ello
1:22 The entire department
In the last clip, I like how Hornet was somehow more precise with the crossbow at long range than with the Uppercut. Those headshots were nasty
They should definetly revert the ammo change atleast. I've never really found the uppercut oppressive. It's a slow hardhitting pistol, if you miss you're dead in many situations. Dolch for example is 100x more oppressive and doesn't even punish you for missing a shot. Uppercut is just a stronger conversion with a MUCH higher pricetag.
The fight at 13:18 yo bro your built different! I would of never got out of that alive
I'd get a heart attack with all the stress lmao
Hilarious those guys came back to get absolutely stomped
1:37 was the killing machene😨
This is a perfect Nerf; the 6 + 9 Reserve for the regular uppercut had the same ammo reserve for Mosin Obrez.
Its to nerf your cringe shotgun + Uppercut Loadouts (usually people only need Muzzle velocity, muzzle velocity is king)
So if you want to cover both close range AND long range effectively, You're now gonna need to invest more like quartermaster
with optional perks like Iron eye or bullet grubber.
They nerfed the reserve ammo on the uppercut P as well. That gun no longer has any reason to exist.
i feel like its ok for the uppercut to be really good
1:22 Respect 👏
I didn't even realize uppercut precision had a faster fire rate.
1:17 I go crazy when this happens, this game has a terrible bug in this revive, if you take too long to take the shot, it ends up in god mod. If not, that's the bad tickrate of this game.. The game is too punishing to have these defects.. The bullet was 100% in it.
3:37 damn nice cut
Hey Hornet, question, did you feel any changes with leading shots since the update ?
It might just be me but I haven't been able to lead any shots correctly since the hit reg/trade window changes, did you feel anything?
It seems like the balance team have been meeting hornet too often in bayou
they should make it do 125 if they give it that ammo econ
it can't be nerfed at this point.
This is A NERF blaster.
HOLY.
They can nerf uppercut but they can't nerf.....La Passion
Cmon Crytek... USE YOUR BRAINS...
They nerfed High Velocity and FMJ, removed Dumdum from most ammo (there is no long ammo Dumdum for a reason)... what you think was going to happen? People surely would go back to long ammo every day.
I mean I'm not complaining that dumdum got reduced. Couldn't go a fight without centennial dumdum just spamming me down. I think the gun variety is pretty good right now. Honestly with the penetration updates, I have been finding it harder to enjoy light ammo though. I think med and long ammo are in good spots now.
@@koyomiararagi3018 Sure.. i parcially agree with you... but why istead of "removing dumdum", why not just buff Bloodless?
Remember the 'Infernal Pact':
Bloodless (Conditional effect) - Bleeding stops automatically because your wounds are cauterized, 1s after bleeding starts.
Make Bloodless do something like that... it'll stop the bleeding automatically... maybe instead of instantly, make a 3 seconds timer to stop bleeding.
Crytek don't realise that EVERY SINGLE nerf to Compact and Medium is a buff to the already meta Long Ammo.
Hunt inflation is real, weapons cost more but perform worse than they have before, Avtomat, uppercut, haymaker, shredder, etc. If you nerf a weapon then you should also reduce the price to compensate.
Crytek is already thinking hmmm how can we take away the core game structure but ruining a high powered slow firing gun and buff another semi auto cod style rifle?
the dont nerf the uppercut. they trying to nerf Hornet : DDDDD
Are there any Perks that can boost Uppercut? Like sway reduction etc?
just the Crackshot Event trait
Those who say "solo op" please tune into hornets stream. You will probably be greeted by a "You're down" screen. No offence hornet
I assume he changed his video Game card, coz it looks different, very smooth 😮
" we evaluate that uppercut is still strong and cool gun we wiuld further improvise it by nerfing the gun to only having 6/0 ammo increase the price to 610 (because soybaby said pocket rifle too strong) and dropping the damage to 91 to match the conversion variant we will also dropping the bullet drop range to 45 and to further balance the game we will buff the cyclone again"
-crytek balancing team after snorting 10kg of kokaina
😭 soybaby
That's a lot of nerf for a 400 coin pistol 💀
dude.... you're incredible
You sound like the big blonde suitor kid from the Brave cartoon
I completely agree, they should nerf Hornet. He is insane
they wana destroit it like flashbomb
Prior to nerf I found nothing wrong with the balance of the pistols, I would see such a huge variety of pistols and medium slot side arms being used.
Post nerf, it's all Dolches and Bornheims in every match.
It just seems like crytek nerfs things for no good reason sometimes and yet bows are still an insta-kill up to like 100 meters because of blademancer being broken.
I could not care less about the Uppercut, for the longest time it was annoying as fuck. It one-tapped people with a small bar missing. You had enough ammo to last you most fights. The sway is not really an issue. It is long ammo, so it retains damage over long distance. Yeah sure it had some downsides, but it had much more upsides, to a point where not taking it was handcapping yourself. It was basically the Mosin of sidearms - the most boring ass, meta gun for sweatlords.
I really think Crytek is losing money not making skins for popular guns and nerfing them all the time...
If I know one thing, I'm grabbin' pills!
I miss the uppercut
uppercut deadeye too oppressive needs more nerfs
Whats hornets favorite hunter?
I dunno....the guy with the beekeeper mask ?
Great stuff!!
Best player of Hunt, no doubt.
stop giving them idea Hornet UltraMad
Oh so these nerfs were all your doing? They saw your footage and thought it was too good? I should have known.
Some Cry devs are true haters of the big iron😢
That higher powered bullets have a higher drop rangee than the small ones is just fucking stupid.
Compact ammo has a higher drop range then long ammo it makes since compact ammo is light and travel faster and longer then heavier slower rounds
@Bmoney98 That's stupid fucking bullshit.
Yeah that’s not how gun physics work. Heavier rifle cartridges travel significantly further and faster than compact ammo. The increased mass means the bullet has more momentum to push through air for longer, reducing the effects of drag and allowing it to travel further. They did it to try to nerf the long ammo meta, but if we were going for realism the system needs to be inverted, long ammo should have the least drop while compact should have the most.
They just should not of added bullet drop to this game to begin with, nobody asked for it.
Like always academic playstyle
Well if you say it like that :3
Let's make it drop at 50m
Pffff was Lusty Argonian Maid already gone xD❤
*Please don't keep nerfing my beloved ;-;*
Nice ESP man have some awards 🤡🐔🤡🐔
Bro you`re a monster 😅
Pax Trueshot > Uppercut
It was perfect 😢
Uppercutttt
Nah, they'd buff it
Argonian Maid. Hmmmm
They only thing they should nerf are you hornet, because your gemaplay is illegal
I stopped using it due to it not feeling strong
obviously nerfed so people wont use uppercut again because new guns suck
Crytek for some reason
Nerf levering❌
Nerf spam weapons❌
Nerf uppercut again ✔
They did nerf levering
@@dunnjustin124 they did ?
@@dunnjustin124 when?
@ made it cost 7 points instead of 4
@@chinikery2590 this last patch
hardware is key in this game .. thats bullshit :\
Honestly what the actual f* is this, jezzzz
auto aim brro.....
I was using the uppercut the other day on console I swear I felt like I was aiming at people but my shots where disappearing 🫠