I recently found a new production Marlin 1895 classic on sale for 529 and I almost overlooked it due to my bad experiences with another newer 1895 gbl I owned. I asked to see it an was blown away by the smoothness of the action, the solid well crafted feel and the amazing fit and finish. I took a chance and I am glad I did, it is incredibly smooth, has flawless functioning and shoots very well. Perhaps the new Marlin is getting thier act together. I hope this becomes the new norm with them.
I have a JM marked Marlin 1895 45-70 . I use hard cast 405 gr bullets at 1500 fps, flattens a deer like hit by a lightening. People often overlook hard cast bullets today, shame they work really well.
The new Winchesters are well made nice guns and if ya go to the right shop can be had for a thousand to 1200 depending on the frame finish. Case Color vs. Blued but very nicely made and as close to the original in fit and finish that you will find. i have been tryin to save up for the 1886 in 45-70 course could live without the safety but if your going to put a safety on a lever gun the tang ambi is the best.
I've owned a Winchester 1886 ( Miroku ) made in Japan for about 2 years now in 45/70 , they are a fantastic rifle , The tang safety dosen't worry me in the slightest in fact I like it , fit and finish is perfect an the blue job is fantastic ,I also load with Trailboss , here in Australia the Winchester is priced between $2000 and $2200 AU
Got a guide gun a year or so ago, shot it a little, and actually I'm pretty impressed with it for such a big round but yeah smooth action straight sites just a good all around handy short rifle!
I was lucky enough to just purchase a used Marlin "JM" 1895 45-70 mfg. in 1986. Yup, she's a sweetheart, too! I've already got the 1st 40 rounds cranked out of my little Lee Classic reload kit and looking to put some big chunks of lead down range soon. I doubt this one will be a "closet queen"!
I love that rifle you are shooting i have the shorter guide gun variation very accurate gun I wanted the rifle to go side by side with my 39A but could not locate one so I found a guide gun for now
cabotbluegill the Cowboys are really fine rifles, well balanced with the long barrel. Lighter then it appears, actually weighs less than my 39a, at least until you load it, 10 of those 405 bullets add up, but the extra weight does reduce the recoil.
I have one of the new marlins made in 2011. Its a .44 mag.... My only problem is that damn safety and they put a butt ugly warning on the barrel! " Improper use may cause injury." YOU DONT SAY!?
Picked up a marlin 45-70 from my local gun store the other day. Paid 600 out the door. Mint condition and they said it had never been fired. Looked up the serial number and found out it was made in 98 and has the JM stamp
I'm looking to get into .45-70. I love Marlins and I think I'm going to go with the 1895 GBL version. It holds 6+1 and is still the guide gun length. I like the cowboy version like you have better, but I think the shorter one would be of more use to me. I live in a dense forest where most shots are inside of 100 yards.
Glad to see you shooting trail boss i was kinda wondering how much it smoked. now i know. I like those Henry rifles but have considered a Marlin. I have a single shot right now. I figure trap loads are powerful enough to shoot about anything at a reasonable range. I get a laugh reading about people complaining about shooting those high power loads. I guess they are into abuse.
Used to have a 1895GS and loved it. But eventual let it go just because it was too damn expensive to shoot. And yes I did handload but even with that I found it cost prohibitive.
what molds have you tried in the 45-70, ive been using a few, if you go over to my channel youll see some of them. ive been looking for a decent 330ish grain mold. the one I have is so fat in the nose when I powdercoat it tends to not fit the chamber. I want lighter loads to try and save my lead as I'm in short supply. any advice is appreciated.
I don't mind rifles being made in japan. Japan makes very nice good quality guns. I have a Weatherby 30-06 made in japan and it's a very good gun. But with a classic levergun I like good old American tradition.
I enjoy your videos. Question. Do you have problems shooting the ammo loaded with the Lee Classic Loader (self contained hand loader kit) in the lever action. If not, are you putting a heavy crimp? Instructions say not for lever. Thanks in advance
I'm staring into reloading my 4570 and I would like a good hunting load. I've been messing around with some imr 4198 and 405 grain flat nose cast bullets. Any suggestions?
4198 is very good for cast. I also use Reloder 7. All I shoot is 405 grain. You don’t need more than 1300-1400 fps to kill just about anything with a hardcast 405.
The US Armys carbine load. 55 grains of black powder, i use pyrodex RS or P, a lubed wonder wad under Lees 405 grain hollow base bullet. Extremely accurate, and the lubed wad eliminates barrel leading.
Great rifle! I have one too...if I were to buy an 1886 though I would prefer the Chiappa version out of Italy..the Miroko Winchesters are well made but the Chiappa more closely resemble or maybe even the exact copy of the original winchesters made in the US..no tang safety and rebounding hammer and such..
Logcabinlooms, I watched your video on reloading with the Lee Loader kit and you had a crimping die? (45-70). Was going to get one but it says theres no crimping die. Just curious if it was purchased as an extra piece. Thanks
Actually, the Crimper is built in, it's simply a matter or turning the die over and tapping. It's not as simple to use as the Lee crimper, but it does a good job, particularly if you are using cast bullets, which have a special crimp groove. A long time ago I did a video called reloading .45-70, in it I was crimping jacketed bullets with the Lee Loader. It works fine, and it was designed to crimp, but Lee stopped recommending the use of Lee Loaders for tube magazines because they didn't trust people to actually do a decent crimp. I still do it, but I pay attention to be sure I have a solid crimp.
trailboss might produce velocities equivalent to many blackpowder load velocities, however, the pressure is dangerously high by comparison. Trailboss has blown up a few trapdoor springfields for example. the pressures are astronomical in comparison.
+Sam Finn I will go at it again soon, I was waiting on some copper wool, rather than using still wool on the receiver, someone suggested that would work better so I got a hold of some.
if you wrap a few strands around an old brass cleaning brush and push it through a barrel it takes the lead out and any rust like magic too. i use the stuff all the time on old milsurp rifles to scrub the barrels to a mirror. and the strands does hurt blued guns neither. it's Not just scrap strands of metal, good stuff.
$1000 is a good deal lol. I recently bought one NIB that was manufactured in 2001 so “JM” and I paid significantly more 😢. Once I find something I like though I am going to get it. They aren’t making them anymore so get it while you can.
+Robert Hayes they are making the new Remington version, but they are not up to the quality of the JM originals. The originals do turn up now and then, but they sell for about double original price.
I see marlin is now making the 44 mag and the 45-70 with a Ballard rifling, got away from the Micro-groove, Heard or seen anything on it?Also sounds like they have made all new tooling for the 1894's, maybe Remington is going to get it right?
+Win351SL I have seen the new .45-70, better, but still lacking, I miss the fine old blueing, black paint looks cheap. If they do actually come out with a .44 mag Cowboy I may take a chance, but only if it's Ballard.
45-70 is great, but you almost have to reload if you want to shoot it a lot. Factory ammo is priced like it's gold plated. Edit: wow, that 4064 load packs a punch!
+ditto1958 most rifle ammo seems ridiculously high now. The good thing is .45-70 is very easy to load for, and Lee still has the Classic Loaders for around $30. It's what I started reloading with, and used for many years, perfectly adequate.
There not just nice they are awesome rifles sad part that Japanese can build a better weapon than American people can that’s what is so sad for the price they charge we can do the same damn thing
Hey Logcabinlooms, I know you're a fan of Marlin and Winchester lever guns..check out: lever gun-scoundrels.com. You'll find good company there, amigo.
I recently found a new production Marlin 1895 classic on sale for 529 and I almost overlooked it due to my bad experiences with another newer 1895 gbl I owned. I asked to see it an was blown away by the smoothness of the action, the solid well crafted feel and the amazing fit and finish. I took a chance and I am glad I did, it is incredibly smooth, has flawless functioning and shoots very well. Perhaps the new Marlin is getting thier act together. I hope this becomes the new norm with them.
You sir. Have some beautiful vintage lever action rifles, I admire them, CLASSIC BUD 🇺🇸👍
I love hearing you talk about guns, ammo and reloading.Today I bought two boxes of 45-70 looking for my first Marlin 1895,hope I find a good one!
Love 45-70’s, favorite round.👍🏻🤠
Know own this one (1895CB), 26” octagon barrel love it Beautiful gun along with a Marlin 1895, Guide Gun, both sweet guns. 👍🏻🤠
I have a JM marked Marlin 1895 45-70 . I use hard cast 405 gr bullets at 1500 fps, flattens a deer like hit by a lightening. People often overlook hard cast bullets today, shame they work really well.
I love your rifle videos :) Love the commentary while shooting! Always a joy to watch.
The new Winchesters are well made nice guns and if ya go to the right shop can be had for a thousand to 1200 depending on the frame finish. Case Color vs. Blued but very nicely made and as close to the original in fit and finish that you will find. i have been tryin to save up for the 1886 in 45-70 course could live without the safety but if your going to put a safety on a lever gun the tang ambi is the best.
I've owned a Winchester 1886
( Miroku ) made in Japan for about 2 years now in 45/70 , they are a fantastic rifle , The tang safety dosen't worry me in the slightest in fact I like it , fit and finish is perfect an the blue job is fantastic ,I also load with Trailboss , here in Australia the Winchester is priced between $2000 and $2200 AU
You seem to have a nice collection of a marlins and lever actions as a whole!
Nice video..
Got a guide gun a year or so ago, shot it a little, and actually I'm pretty impressed with it for such a big round but yeah smooth action straight sites just a good all around handy short rifle!
I was lucky enough to just purchase a used Marlin "JM" 1895 45-70 mfg. in 1986. Yup, she's a sweetheart, too! I've already got the 1st 40 rounds cranked out of my little Lee Classic reload kit and looking to put some big chunks of lead down range soon. I doubt this one will be a "closet queen"!
I got a super nice '53 336 in .30-30 last Fall and now am lusting after a .45-70 - that smoking barrel at 3:15 is so tasty :)
Loving your 45/70 videos mate, keep them coming 👍🏻
love your reloading videos would enjoy seeing more.
45-70 is the round to have. I recently got a TC kahtodin and its just a great combination!
I love that rifle you are shooting i have the shorter guide gun variation very accurate gun I wanted the rifle to go side by side with my 39A but could not locate one so I found a guide gun for now
cabotbluegill the Cowboys are really fine rifles, well balanced with the long barrel. Lighter then it appears, actually weighs less than my 39a, at least until you load it, 10 of those 405 bullets add up, but the extra weight does reduce the recoil.
I have one of the new marlins made in 2011. Its a .44 mag.... My only problem is that damn safety and they put a butt ugly warning on the barrel! " Improper use may cause injury." YOU DONT SAY!?
I'v tried IMR 4064 around 54gr. with a 350gr FN. That rocks,enjoyed your show.
Picked up a marlin 45-70 from my local gun store the other day. Paid 600 out the door. Mint condition and they said it had never been fired. Looked up the serial number and found out it was made in 98 and has the JM stamp
I'm looking to get into .45-70. I love Marlins and I think I'm going to go with the 1895 GBL version. It holds 6+1 and is still the guide gun length. I like the cowboy version like you have better, but I think the shorter one would be of more use to me. I live in a dense forest where most shots are inside of 100 yards.
Glad to see you shooting trail boss i was kinda wondering how much it smoked. now i know. I like those Henry rifles but have considered a Marlin. I have a single shot right now. I figure trap loads are powerful enough to shoot about anything at a reasonable range. I get a laugh reading about people complaining about shooting those high power loads. I guess they are into abuse.
IMR3031/500grain hardlead FP at 1050fps. Was 31grains from an early GuideGun. Squirrel to bulls..
Larga vida de caza "it's silly to fire twice" an Elk! love my CB model (it's a keeper) felt the same WWW.
Enjoy your videos ...
Thanks
Used to have a 1895GS and loved it. But eventual let it go just because it was too damn expensive to shoot. And yes I did handload but even with that I found it cost prohibitive.
what molds have you tried in the 45-70, ive been using a few, if you go over to my channel youll see some of them. ive been looking for a decent 330ish grain mold. the one I have is so fat in the nose when I powdercoat it tends to not fit the chamber. I want lighter loads to try and save my lead as I'm in short supply. any advice is appreciated.
looks like my favorite rifle, Marlin 45-70, 26” octagon barrel, have Henry, Rossi, Marlin guide (18”) & H&R, can’t beat 45-70.🤠
I don't mind rifles being made in japan. Japan makes very nice good quality guns. I have a Weatherby 30-06 made in japan and it's a very good gun. But with a classic levergun I like good old American tradition.
I enjoy your videos. Question. Do you have problems shooting the ammo loaded with the Lee Classic Loader (self contained hand loader kit) in the lever action. If not, are you putting a heavy crimp? Instructions say not for lever. Thanks in advance
I'm staring into reloading my 4570 and I would like a good hunting load. I've been messing around with some imr 4198 and 405 grain flat nose cast bullets. Any suggestions?
4198 is very good for cast. I also use Reloder 7. All I shoot is 405 grain. You don’t need more than 1300-1400 fps to kill just about anything with a hardcast 405.
The US Armys carbine load. 55 grains of black powder, i use pyrodex RS or P, a lubed wonder wad under Lees 405 grain hollow base bullet. Extremely accurate, and the lubed wad eliminates barrel leading.
Great rifle! I have one too...if I were to buy an 1886 though I would prefer the Chiappa version out of Italy..the Miroko Winchesters are well made but the Chiappa more closely resemble or maybe even the exact copy of the original winchesters made in the US..no tang safety and rebounding hammer and such..
Haven't seen the new japan Winchesters ?? I'd like to find a nice 4570 . I found h&r and didn't get it . Should have seen your videos later on yours .
Logcabinlooms, I watched your video on reloading with the Lee Loader kit and you had a crimping die? (45-70). Was going to get one but it says theres no crimping die. Just curious if it was purchased as an extra piece. Thanks
Actually, the Crimper is built in, it's simply a matter or turning the die over and tapping. It's not as simple to use as the Lee crimper, but it does a good job, particularly if you are using cast bullets, which have a special crimp groove. A long time ago I did a video called reloading .45-70, in it I was crimping jacketed bullets with the Lee Loader. It works fine, and it was designed to crimp, but Lee stopped recommending the use of Lee Loaders for tube magazines because they didn't trust people to actually do a decent crimp. I still do it, but I pay attention to be sure I have a solid crimp.
@@logcabinlooms thank you. I will order a Lee kit.
Do you know a converison chart for trail boss and BP ?
trailboss might produce velocities equivalent to many blackpowder load velocities, however, the pressure is dangerously high by comparison. Trailboss has blown up a few trapdoor springfields for example. the pressures are astronomical in comparison.
ya, I know. I use some for low power loads.
Don't mean to pester, but now and then I still wonder if you ever got around to working on your brother's "rescue" 30-30 Winchester?
+Sam Finn I will go at it again soon, I was waiting on some copper wool, rather than using still wool on the receiver, someone suggested that would work better so I got a hold of some.
Sounds good ... but I wonder if the copper wool will leave a residue?
i used "Big 45 Frontier" to restore mine. should goggle it. ?
MegaBait56 ... I googled it and it looks like it has potential. Might try some. Thanks.
if you wrap a few strands around an old brass cleaning brush and push it through a barrel it takes the lead out and any rust like magic too. i use the stuff all the time on old milsurp rifles to scrub the barrels to a mirror. and the strands does hurt blued guns neither. it's Not just scrap strands of metal, good stuff.
I'd love to get an original J.M. Marlin 1895 Cowboy with the 26" octagonal barrel!! I've been looking at some, but they're going for almost $1,000.00.
and I'm going to guess they will be $1500+ in another 10 years.
Don’t overlook the new ones either.
$1000 is a good deal lol. I recently bought one NIB that was manufactured in 2001 so “JM” and I paid significantly more 😢.
Once I find something I like though I am going to get it. They aren’t making them anymore so get it while you can.
how does the 45-70 compare with .35 Remington
I was wondering what year model your Marlin is. Can I assume it is not a micro-grooved barrel?
+ghal marraz 2002, not micro-grove
If your relative buys this Winchester 45-70, Do you figure he would let you feature it in a video?
+Poisoned Apple I am pretty sure he would want to show it off.
Thank you sir.
I had a 45 70 Marlin I wonder if you can still buy one. We'll see?
+Robert Hayes they are making the new Remington version, but they are not up to the quality of the JM originals. The originals do turn up now and then, but they sell for about double original price.
I see marlin is now making the 44 mag and the 45-70 with a Ballard rifling, got away from the Micro-groove, Heard or seen anything on it?Also sounds like they have made all new tooling for the 1894's, maybe Remington is going to get it right?
+Win351SL I have seen the new .45-70, better, but still lacking, I miss the fine old blueing, black paint looks cheap. If they do actually come out with a .44 mag Cowboy I may take a chance, but only if it's Ballard.
I bought a new Marlin 45-70 like yours. It seems to be pretty good. I'm going to use it for deer hunting this Fall.
Great gun for the upper Midwest. Working man's assault rifle.
Deer's worst nightmare!
assault rifle? are you a Democrat or part of the Media?
45-70 is great, but you almost have to reload if you want to shoot it a lot. Factory ammo is priced like it's gold plated. Edit: wow, that 4064 load packs a punch!
+ditto1958 most rifle ammo seems ridiculously high now. The good thing is .45-70 is very easy to load for, and Lee still has the Classic Loaders for around $30. It's what I started reloading with, and used for many years, perfectly adequate.
How many grains of Trail Boss do you think you're loading in those rounds? I bought some Trail Boss powder but haven't used it yet.
We may be kin, can you put me in your will? All I want are your guns. 😊
Get a Henry. Still made in America
There not just nice they are awesome rifles sad part that Japanese can build a better weapon than American people can that’s what is so sad for the price they charge we can do the same damn thing
Hey Logcabinlooms, I know you're a fan of Marlin and Winchester lever guns..check out: lever gun-scoundrels.com. You'll find good company there, amigo.