@@paulocunha8886 Collectors were the only reason why MTG One Ring card was a big hit. It wont be a success and wont sell if no collector is willing to buy it for $$$$$$$. Players come and go but collectors stays. Players, especially competitive players move on to another TCG when they get bored or they keep on losing in events. There are 3 kinds of people that help TCGs to last long - competitive players, casual players, and collectors
@acedobleace na , like he guy above said .. collectors can piss pant. TCGs are meant for people to have fun and have players interested in the game and attract new players into the game. Collectors just ruin every tcg economy by making it expensive where it shouldn't.
Stop. It's a GAME. Reprints don't hurt anyone. Maybe people shouldn't treat trading cards as stocks. Nothing against you personally, but I really dislike youtube titles and the idea that "oh no they can't reprint b/c the poor collectors!!!"
My friend - I suggest you watch the video. We agree on the topic for the most part (I personally believe tcgs must find balance between playability and collectability and it’s a hard thing to do) but all the title does is pose the question on the minds of a lot of people who love SWU and during the video I share my thoughts on the matter. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I can’t wait for SWU to become more readily available
A game with 4 different styles FOR EACH CARD nonetheless. I mean who could collect a full binder of each style? and why bother collecting a hyperspace only binder when there’s hyperspace foils? FFG should’ve eliminated the foil only and hyperspace only categories and just combined them into one.
Hurting collectors? Get out of here this is not a way to get rich. Collectors are not helpful to the life of the game, they hurt the game and cause false demand.
Imagine thinking collectors are the same as the investors that drive up the prices. The collectors are the other half of what keeps these games alive lmao
My first Box, first Booster was Thrawn Showcase and had Boba Fett in Hyperspace Foil, Box two and (after i sold Thrawn) box were still okay with a foil Vader and the reest of the missing legendarys. Then on a weekly play wednesday in my local store i lost all my games and got myself three Boosters and pulled an inquisitor Showcase. That was fun :) I get why collectors dont want reprints but for getting a game rolling i dont think its healthy that must include cards like vader and boba are that expensive. I still want to be able to build decks with them. The Shocases are rare enough so you have something to collect in this specific niche.
Not having the supply to meet demand will halt the growth of the game. Demand will plummet, and their investment will go to shit. Collectors can snort glass. I like having a game to play.
I'm very much a collectibility does not equal investibility. To me, collectibility is my desire to keep and show off the cards. My big personal anecdote for this would be my One Piece cube where I have several cheaper version of cards with pricer varianta because I like seeing and showing that art more. You talk about this, but I love the tiered collectibility of SWU (MTG does this too). You get a baseline game piece version along with Foil, Hyperspace, and Hyperspace foil to give some tiered value and variety for players (I'm very much a base version nonfoil person myself.) I don't think reprints of early sets hurt anyone really. Set 1, 2, 3 are really all about building your game and community. Cards should be cheap and ubiquitous. That said, if they make any change to the set for the reprint (I'm betting no changes), they should just remove the showcases. Leave everything else as it is, but preserve the massive hits. Box was cracked. Thanks for the content.
I almost completed the first master set with all 4 versions of each cards several weeks ago. Now working on second set to sale later but there are no boxes anywhere and since they said they will keep printing i.e unlimited I m waiting for reprints to be at the same price that release was. Not paying $250 per box. I could but I don t like to be ****ed with a cactus by distributors
I opened 13 boxes and 7 pre releases to get three of every car so i could play whatever i wanted. If you get a Mace Windu or a Vigilance in you box Vader is almost guaranteed.
I recently got into the TCG world a couple of months ago with Disney Lorcana. The idea was to get my wife and daughter into it so we could all play together. I'm HEAVILY invested in that game now. You touched upon it in your video, the First Chapter got a reprint and those boxes are still pushing $300. Everyone is chasing the Elsa enchanted. Most of the base cards are fluctuating depending on the current meta, but it comes down to a handful of cards in the base set holding some value. I wasn't going to get into SWU because I hated the art. I kept going back and forth on it. I eventually bought a starter and 2 pre-release boxes (and I told myself that was it) and I hit a L Vader out of the pre-release packs as well as a few other really good hits. I got addicted to "cracking packs" and I bought two Booster boxes off Amazon for $120 each and a case before they dried up for $700. About 6-8 packs into that first booster box off Amazon I hit a Palpatine Showcase. Yeah.... cardboard crack. When news got out SWU had sold out, I debated on unloading those booster boxes for the market price. I didn't, and sadly I'd already defied the odds with my first Booster box and there wasn't another showcase in that case of six, but, I got sooo many good cards out of that case. I'm waiting to see whats gonna happen with a reprint, but with those showcase cards being 1 in every 12 boosters, and the cases pushing $1600 now, I don't think they're going back to $95-120 a booster box now. It remains to be seen where they settle, but even some of the pricier singles are falling depending on when and what day you look, and I can see those correcting a bit once boosters are available again and the supply starts outpacing demand. I've pulled 5 Vaders, 3 regular a foil and one hyperspace, 3 Luke, 1 foil and two regular, multiple aspect innates, cunning, vigilance, aggression, command, Boba, multiple Windu's, multiple Falcons. If I was sitting on a case (pre sellout), I'd probably still open it, because you're gonna get $120 out of that box easy. I was pulling 4-6 Legendary every box. Only one booster I opened yielded 2 legendary. I should be unloading them while they're high and paying for my next set, and maybe cheaper reprints, but I'll hold too long and it'll crash. But, hey I'm like maybe half a dozen cards away (all legendary) from a full play set of C, UC, R, L. The art kinda grew on me, and the game is actually fun. Hopefully they don't kill it with oversaturation and introducing too many new mechanics. Keep it simple for a awhile.
First editions are always worth the most. Sure on paper collectors may take a hit in the beginning. But look at MTG non-reserve list reprints. You can buy a Sol Ring in its most recent printing for like a $1 buck. An Alpha will cost you about $2000 grand. So if you are truly a collector/investor, you need to be in for the long haul. The health of the game is far more important at this stage than people flipping cards and sealed product for a quick buck.
Fantasy Flight Games looks at this as a board game first, collectible item second. Wizards of the Coast has ruined the game of Magic due to their greed.
Can you people stop putting collectors and investors in the same bucket?! Without Collectors many TCG's wouldn't even exist anymore. The investor type of "hOlD oR SeLl ThIS BoX" is what is damaging prices and supply. Not collectors.
Hyperspace foils should be exclusive to set release prints only. All set reprints should only contain regular non-foil, regular foil, and hyperspace non-foil. Showcase should be non-foil as well for the reprints.
Wow that’s a dumb idea if they get reprinted they won’t become common and we all know accessibility is really important especially when scalpers in this day and age
@@DarthPickleCT youre missing the point of having reprints, reprint is only necessary to make cards easily accessible and cheaper to play, you dont need hyperspace foils for that, hyperfoils are meant for collecting so it is only right to put premium on those cards, some cards are really meant to be worth $1000+ each, thats the essence of collecting, do you think anyone would bother paying 2 million dollars for a piece of cardboard if MTG one ring card has thousands of copies instead of one copy? FFG designed the cards to have 4 variants to cater to everyone depending on their budget, if you cant afford a $$$$$ all hyperfoil deck then go for $$$$ hyper nonfoil deck, or $$$ regular foil deck, or $$ regular nonfoil deck
Thank god people like you don't decide this. That would pretty much kill the game, since collectability is 50% of what makes these games stay alive. Thinking collecting is all about value of what you collect is why we have these problems in the first place. You really think people collect Lego because it will get more expensive or because they fucking like Legos. What kind of brainrot happened to the TCG community that they think collecting and investing are the same thing?
reprints are vital for keeping the game alive. collectors can piss pant
This!
What are reprints??
"collectors can piss pant" 👏👏👏 i hope they focus on players man! I'm tired of collectors ruin TCGs economy
@@paulocunha8886 Collectors were the only reason why MTG One Ring card was a big hit. It wont be a success and wont sell if no collector is willing to buy it for $$$$$$$. Players come and go but collectors stays. Players, especially competitive players move on to another TCG when they get bored or they keep on losing in events. There are 3 kinds of people that help TCGs to last long - competitive players, casual players, and collectors
@acedobleace na , like he guy above said .. collectors can piss pant. TCGs are meant for people to have fun and have players interested in the game and attract new players into the game. Collectors just ruin every tcg economy by making it expensive where it shouldn't.
Stop. It's a GAME. Reprints don't hurt anyone. Maybe people shouldn't treat trading cards as stocks. Nothing against you personally, but I really dislike youtube titles and the idea that "oh no they can't reprint b/c the poor collectors!!!"
My friend - I suggest you watch the video. We agree on the topic for the most part (I personally believe tcgs must find balance between playability and collectability and it’s a hard thing to do) but all the title does is pose the question on the minds of a lot of people who love SWU and during the video I share my thoughts on the matter.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I can’t wait for SWU to become more readily available
A game with 4 different styles FOR EACH CARD nonetheless. I mean who could collect a full binder of each style? and why bother collecting a hyperspace only binder when there’s hyperspace foils? FFG should’ve eliminated the foil only and hyperspace only categories and just combined them into one.
Your wrong. TCG’s are both; game and collectibility.
yeah, plus first set needs to grow the game
Will there be like any markings on the new cards of a second print?
Hurting collectors? Get out of here this is not a way to get rich. Collectors are not helpful to the life of the game, they hurt the game and cause false demand.
Two things need to happen for a TCG to be successful: engaging gameplay and collectibility. Look at MTG; they got both and 30 years of success.
Imagine thinking collectors are the same as the investors that drive up the prices. The collectors are the other half of what keeps these games alive lmao
My first Box, first Booster was Thrawn Showcase and had Boba Fett in Hyperspace Foil, Box two and (after i sold Thrawn) box were still okay with a foil Vader and the reest of the missing legendarys. Then on a weekly play wednesday in my local store i lost all my games and got myself three Boosters and pulled an inquisitor Showcase. That was fun :) I get why collectors dont want reprints but for getting a game rolling i dont think its healthy that must include cards like vader and boba are that expensive. I still want to be able to build decks with them. The Shocases are rare enough so you have something to collect in this specific niche.
Not having the supply to meet demand will halt the growth of the game. Demand will plummet, and their investment will go to shit.
Collectors can snort glass. I like having a game to play.
Reprint are only reason I've bought total of 5 boxes, because originally we were not able to get sor boxes
Wait so they are reprinting set 1?
It’s a game. It would be cool if they put some kind of indication on the second print, but I think it unlikely.
Called unlimited for a reason right?
I would think so!
I'm very much a collectibility does not equal investibility. To me, collectibility is my desire to keep and show off the cards. My big personal anecdote for this would be my One Piece cube where I have several cheaper version of cards with pricer varianta because I like seeing and showing that art more.
You talk about this, but I love the tiered collectibility of SWU (MTG does this too). You get a baseline game piece version along with Foil, Hyperspace, and Hyperspace foil to give some tiered value and variety for players (I'm very much a base version nonfoil person myself.)
I don't think reprints of early sets hurt anyone really. Set 1, 2, 3 are really all about building your game and community. Cards should be cheap and ubiquitous.
That said, if they make any change to the set for the reprint (I'm betting no changes), they should just remove the showcases. Leave everything else as it is, but preserve the massive hits.
Box was cracked. Thanks for the content.
I almost completed the first master set with all 4 versions of each cards several weeks ago. Now working on second set to sale later but there are no boxes anywhere and since they said they will keep printing i.e unlimited I m waiting for reprints to be at the same price that release was. Not paying $250 per box. I could but I don t like to be ****ed with a cactus by distributors
As a collector that likes to collect for my personal collection i love reprints. Makes me able to afford a sealed product later on or to open ^-^
Dont remember this game being a Collectable Card Game ... Thought this was a Trading card game, hard to trade when there is 0 product.
I opened 13 boxes and 7 pre releases to get three of every car so i could play whatever i wanted. If you get a Mace Windu or a Vigilance in you box Vader is almost guaranteed.
My one box on Josh's channel is worth more than every box Ive done on Louies combined. Makes you wonder lol. Thanks my friend!
This box was 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for sharing the opening with us and supporting the channel ❤️
Great box, sir!
I recently got into the TCG world a couple of months ago with Disney Lorcana. The idea was to get my wife and daughter into it so we could all play together. I'm HEAVILY invested in that game now. You touched upon it in your video, the First Chapter got a reprint and those boxes are still pushing $300. Everyone is chasing the Elsa enchanted. Most of the base cards are fluctuating depending on the current meta, but it comes down to a handful of cards in the base set holding some value.
I wasn't going to get into SWU because I hated the art. I kept going back and forth on it. I eventually bought a starter and 2 pre-release boxes (and I told myself that was it) and I hit a L Vader out of the pre-release packs as well as a few other really good hits. I got addicted to "cracking packs" and I bought two Booster boxes off Amazon for $120 each and a case before they dried up for $700. About 6-8 packs into that first booster box off Amazon I hit a Palpatine Showcase. Yeah.... cardboard crack. When news got out SWU had sold out, I debated on unloading those booster boxes for the market price. I didn't, and sadly I'd already defied the odds with my first Booster box and there wasn't another showcase in that case of six, but, I got sooo many good cards out of that case.
I'm waiting to see whats gonna happen with a reprint, but with those showcase cards being 1 in every 12 boosters, and the cases pushing $1600 now, I don't think they're going back to $95-120 a booster box now. It remains to be seen where they settle, but even some of the pricier singles are falling depending on when and what day you look, and I can see those correcting a bit once boosters are available again and the supply starts outpacing demand. I've pulled 5 Vaders, 3 regular a foil and one hyperspace, 3 Luke, 1 foil and two regular, multiple aspect innates, cunning, vigilance, aggression, command, Boba, multiple Windu's, multiple Falcons. If I was sitting on a case (pre sellout), I'd probably still open it, because you're gonna get $120 out of that box easy. I was pulling 4-6 Legendary every box. Only one booster I opened yielded 2 legendary.
I should be unloading them while they're high and paying for my next set, and maybe cheaper reprints, but I'll hold too long and it'll crash. But, hey I'm like maybe half a dozen cards away (all legendary) from a full play set of C, UC, R, L.
The art kinda grew on me, and the game is actually fun. Hopefully they don't kill it with oversaturation and introducing too many new mechanics. Keep it simple for a awhile.
First editions are always worth the most. Sure on paper collectors may take a hit in the beginning.
But look at MTG non-reserve list reprints. You can buy a Sol Ring in its most recent printing for like a $1 buck. An Alpha will cost you about $2000 grand.
So if you are truly a collector/investor, you need to be in for the long haul.
The health of the game is far more important at this stage than people flipping cards and sealed product for a quick buck.
This is one of my favorite comments of all time.
Fantasy Flight Games looks at this as a board game first, collectible item second. Wizards of the Coast has ruined the game of Magic due to their greed.
Can you people stop putting collectors and investors in the same bucket?! Without Collectors many TCG's wouldn't even exist anymore. The investor type of "hOlD oR SeLl ThIS BoX" is what is damaging prices and supply. Not collectors.
Got to stop watching these Star Wars box openings or going to need to go get some boxes to open.
"Do it - let the cardboard flow through you..."
This was one insane box honestly
Some great pulls, thanks for the content!
Thanks for watching and for the support
Hyperspace foils should be exclusive to set release prints only. All set reprints should only contain regular non-foil, regular foil, and hyperspace non-foil. Showcase should be non-foil as well for the reprints.
No
Wow that’s a dumb idea if they get reprinted they won’t become common and we all know accessibility is really important especially when scalpers in this day and age
@@DarthPickleCT youre missing the point of having reprints, reprint is only necessary to make cards easily accessible and cheaper to play, you dont need hyperspace foils for that, hyperfoils are meant for collecting so it is only right to put premium on those cards, some cards are really meant to be worth $1000+ each, thats the essence of collecting, do you think anyone would bother paying 2 million dollars for a piece of cardboard if MTG one ring card has thousands of copies instead of one copy? FFG designed the cards to have 4 variants to cater to everyone depending on their budget, if you cant afford a $$$$$ all hyperfoil deck then go for $$$$ hyper nonfoil deck, or $$$ regular foil deck, or $$ regular nonfoil deck
Thank god people like you don't decide this. That would pretty much kill the game, since collectability is 50% of what makes these games stay alive. Thinking collecting is all about value of what you collect is why we have these problems in the first place. You really think people collect Lego because it will get more expensive or because they fucking like Legos. What kind of brainrot happened to the TCG community that they think collecting and investing are the same thing?
Fire Box!
It was a really good one! The hits kept coming’
Nice card pulls!