WHY I LEFT PHARMACY SCHOOL | DROPPING OUT OF GRAD SCHOOL
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As some of you know, I left UF's pharmacy program at the end of my first year. I felt that it was important to address it, share my experience and include it on my channel so that I can fully close that chapter of my life. I am so grateful for the experiences I had there, the friends that I made and everything that I learned. Unfortunately in the end it didn't bring me the happiness that I needed in my career. I hope you enjoy it, and please comment if you have any questions for me about my experience!
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I’ve been practicing for 8 years as a pharmacist- 6 years of pharmacy school and 1 year of residency. This video is so true- what I learn in school is wasted because I definitely rarely use it in my day to day. I’m more or less a robot. What’s sad is that I’m not even retail- I’m in a specialty hospital program. Good thing you got out early enough- many of my colleagues feel the same way but way too in debt and spent too much time to make a change
I'm a Pharmacist and very happy @ work. School was rough gotta admit BUT deal with it! I honestly won't do anything else. Work is work, my fun starts after work. I work to make money to enjoy my personal life💖
Thanks for sharing, I'm glad that it worked out for you!!
I haven't yet seen the video, I am only 30 seconds in, but I had to pause it after reading this comment.
Its sad that you think 'work is work'. We spend over half our life at work after graduation, your job should be something you AT LEAST partially enjoy.
3 years ago I quit my pharmacy profession post-grad, as I found the career extremely dull with very little progression, at least that' how it is here in UK (London, England). 3 years later and its the best decision I made, my Masters MPharm degree secured me a good role in something I actually like which has great pay and a sturdy progression ladder to follow.
I think schools and universities should do a better job of being 'real' with students about the truth of what being a Pharmacist is like, and they should also give a heads up for the future of pharmacy..
edit: if you're a pharmacy student reading this, please dont think your life is over as I am not trying to be negative. Your degree is still extremely powerful and along with a keen attitude this is enough to get you into multiple different Science/Math based professions which pay much more! (basically what im saying is dont drop out of university, finish the degree and then use it to do something better).
I bet that the pharmacy you work at, doesn’t make more than 100 prescriptions a day, with a lot of staff in it, not knowing what to do with their time at work.
Fun should be in and after work...but yes i do understand that money is important so probably 5-10 years ago if you graduated pharm school then potentially it’s still worth it but today and the future, pharmacy is only going downhill and the pharmD degree is no longer worth it mentally or financially if you decide to attend school nowadays 🤷♂️
where do you work if you mind me asking?
Hi Olivia!
I’m so sad to hear this was the experience you had- both at the Orlando campus and pharmacy in general. I am a graduating 4th year student at UF Jacksonville Campus that matched for residency at one of my top choices. Patient interactions were also my favorite part and essential for job satisfaction. On 4th year rotations, I really got to see the amazing things pharmacists can do and the amount of patient interactions they can have! I worked at UF Health Jacksonville throughout school, and my position was a patient counseling position so that was the entirety of my job! I wish you would have had a more positive experience like I did! But regardless, I wish you the best in the future and hope you find the fulfillment you are looking for!
Thank you for sharing! It sounds like you had the experience I would have loved to have! :) Congratulations btw, that's awesome about your residency. I know UF is AMAZING when it comes to matching/placement in residencies, which was one of the major pros when weighing my options. Hopefully everything happens for a reason, and I also wish you the best!! Congrats again!
Thank you for making this video. You’re a strong courageous woman. Not everyone has the ability to walk away when it’s not a good fit! Looking forward to seeing you in Dallas.
Such a sweet comment! Thank you so much :) I’m definitely much happier now!
Thanks, really appreciated the reality of this degree. Thank you!!!
thank you so much for watching!!
I left after my first semester, and your thoughts are right on the money. It's honestly such a relief to not be pursuing pharmacy anymore.
Thanks for watching, and you were smart to get out even sooner than I did! I’m thankful every day 🙌🏼
Thank you so much this video was really eye opening to me and I’m a senior in high school trying to decide if I want to do pre pharmacy or not and this video really helped. I’m glad that you’re doing something better and what you want to do. Best wishes and thank you !
Kieran L I’m glad you liked it and thank you for watching! Since I’ve dropped Ive only seen more and more pharmacists warning others not to do it. So I am definitely happy with my decision :) just do whatever is best for you at the end of the day!
It's all about finding the right work environment with the right people! Changes everything
One more thing: pharmacist is laid off easily today; retail wants you to get out and hire new grad with lower salary. Nurse is very secured job; you can work as long as you want to retire.
Hi. I just actually left after around 1.5 months into my P1 year at the University of Michigan. I've been regretting it a little but your video helps me remind myself that my thoughts were valid. Good luck to you in your dental hygiene journey!!
I have never regretted it so I hope you can come to love your decision too!! I promise we did the right thing!!!
I love your honesty here. I chose my current pharmacy because I needed so much more social interaction and collaboration (it’s a learner based school with lots of activities) and I loved how they were a block program. Follow your heart with what you want to do, no judgement! ❤️❤️❤️ also, the compounding pharmacy I work at used a lot more of their doctorate degree and my friend is an ER pharmacist who gets to collaborate greatly with many doctors. I agree that retail pharmacists often don’t get to use the most of their degree.
Thank you for expressing that in such a respectful way, I appreciate it so much! I also am SO happy to hear that you love it and there are better options out there.
I heard great things about compounding. Good luck with pharmacy!!
I think you explained why you left very well and it’s so true. I’m only a freshman in college and I thought about being a pharmacist but I did so much research and decided to not go for it. In comments of videos I saw so many pharmacist saying they hated the job and people shouldn’t go for it. It was literally hard for me to find good things about pharmacy. Thanks for the really informative video :)
I am so happy you enjoyed it and that it could help you! That's honestly why I made it, to help others not make the same mistake if they're on the fence. I didn't talk about it much in this video, but if you are still interested in medical I would go dental or PA! PAs have so many options and there's always a need :)
My sister is a pharmacist. I thought I wanted to do pharmacy at first, I applied and got accepted. I told my sister, she screamed at me so much and literally wanted to break my head lol 😂! She hates the profession so much and pursuing MD now. As for me, MD/PA route is where I’m heading...good luck to you all on what you which to pursue.
@@LivvInspired smart move with saturation decreasing jobs soon Pharmacists headed to be replaced with machine
I start pharmacy school at the University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus in 18 days. I've been contemplating about going or not. I'm a pharmacy tech and I have talked to many pharmacists about the outlook on the pharmacy market. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, growth is projected to be 0% for the next 10 years. I admit the six figure income played a major factor in my decision for pharmacy school, but my pharmacist told me to not expect a six figure income the way the pharmacy market is now. I am leaning towards leaving pharmacy school. My family thinks I'm crazy and stupid to think about leaving because they think that all a pharmacist does is count pills and talk to patients. Financially I personally don't think it is a good decision because I'm estimating I'll coming out with about maybe 150k to 200k of debt maybe after interest. By the way I think your video was awesome, though I haven't made a decision yet, I feel that I am not alone.
Pharmacists are no longer making 6 figures. I'm a new grad and thankfully I have a job, but I'm making less than 95k. And I'm working at one of the major retailers with one of the highest pay at the current moment. All of the new hires received the same offer but we'll probably make less than 90K, sadly. Many of my classmates don't have any jobs. At this point, you need to look out for yourself because the loan debt will be in your name. All the best of luck to you!
@@diamondhernandez622 , 95K is so cheap for PharmD degree. My brother with B.S in nursing; graduated from San Francisco State University. He works fulltime at Kaiser now; and makes over $52/hr after over 1 year experience in nursing home.
@@uongoivanneo5231 Exactly, there's really no benefit in getting a pharmD at this point unless you're not taking out loans. Even residents are having trouble getting jobs, and sadly they may get low balled as well.
I am not sure if you left pharmacy school but I started pharmacy school with you at Colorado Anschutz medical campus in August. I am doing good in my classes but after working in retail and doing research I think I am going to drop out. Thanks, Olivia for making me feel better and discussing your thoughts!
@@imanshah7922 Hope you’re doing well. Had you worked as a tech prior to applying and enrolling in pharm school?
Thanks for the informative video Olivia! I’ve been on the fence for a while, and I have heard of a few experiences similar to yours. Best of luck!
Dom Smith I’m glad I’m not the only one! Just weigh your options before making that big decision :) Thx for watching!
What to do when there's too many Pharmacists... Create a Pharmacy to MD program in order to over saturate the Medical field of course. It's the logical next step.
Good for you for knowing enough about yourself and what makes you happy in life to step out of pharmacy school! I admire you. When you have to go to work every day, you should aim to do what you love and not only will you benefit from that decision, but everyone around you too. I have been a pharmacist for >20 years and I would encourage anyone thinking of entering into this field to highly consider other options for all the reasons you listed in your video. You were honest, upfront and I know your life will be better balanced with the choice you've made in the dental world! Best of luck!
Super inspiring story! Loved every minute of the video. Wishing you the best of luck in your future endeavors, you will be an amazing dental hygienist!!
Thank you so much!
You mention how pharmacies are very understaffed, but that it’s also very hard to find a job. Are they just not hiring more pharmacists when they’re needed? I’m currently a Medical Laboratory Scientist. I am board certified and I have my masters in Immunohematology & biotechnology. The job is very similar to what you describe, except we don’t get paid nearly as much. And we’re not respected by nurses even though we’ve gone through just as much school. The problem with the lab is that most techs are about to retire and there’s not enough new techs coming into the field. Most people don’t even know about the field even though hospitals can’t survive without us. I’ve been considering pharmacy because I would be doing very similar work for a higher pay, I am interested in learning more, and there is not much room for growth in the lab. I can’t decide what I should do.
Yeah I agree with retail pharmacy being such a major drag. I would never do retail pharmacy. If I have to work my butt off in pharmacy school to land a residency then so be it. I will also apply to a lot of scholarships to avoid debt. And consider federal student loan forgiveness programs.
I wish I knew more about loan forgiveness, but unfortunately not too educated on all the financial options available! Good luck to you if you pursue this path, thanks for watching :)
I'm from Australia and getting into a hospital as a pharmacy intern is so competitive.
Great said, Olivia! The relationship between science and academia is like the relationship between faith and cult. So, no regrets. I’m sure you thrive now.
This is the exact reason I dropped out of my nursing school program, and I have been considering pharmacy school because I enjoy working in the retail pharmacy, but not having a work-life balance led me to the edge of my mental health in nursing school.
Gotta have the balance for sure!
I recently got dismissed from my program due to not being able to keep up with three of my classes because of COVID and they sped up our classes. I'm in the process of appealing it but this video was helpful because now I'm wondering whats next for me. If I should keep fighting or is this fight worth fighting for. Thank you for this. I am still very lost on what my next step is but this has helped me so much.
I would take this as a possible blessing and really look into what it is that you want! For me, four years of school, $250k in debt and the lack of jobs due to over saturation wasn’t worth it... you could switch to PA, that’s two years of school with such a wide scope of possibilities. Dental hygiene pays $45 an hour and is also only two years of school. For me, the possibility of staying In the medical field, having low debt and making almost six figures and NOT go to pharmacy school was 100% the move. Explore what you like, what you can see yourself doing forever and what will make you happiest! You also may want to follow pharmacy pages on Facebook bc there’s a ton of feedback on those that reaffirm my decision to leave daily... I’m glad you liked the video and I think things will always work out how they’re supposed to!
I'm a p2 and in considering withdrawing and going medical school
@@jlove4eva1234 If I don’t withdrawal by fall I will be starting P2 year in August. It is a retake year for me and I am really passionate about pharmacy, however it seems like it’s becoming too competitive for what it is. I don’t know if I should go back or not, I’ve already got a job this summer expecting to go back.
I am in the same boat. How did it work out?
Thank you for posting this video and shedding some truth about the current state of the pharmacy world. As someone who went through it all and started out working as a retail pharmacist, your points are spot on. I wish this was discussed more, so that some real change could be made. What a strange degree--such an incredibly rigorous and long journey through school basically learning to become an actual medical doctor and diagnosing like you said--only for most pharmacists to work in retail, where you don't even apply a fraction of what you learn. And what you do need to know can be learned from working as a tech--but not actually taught in school. So backwards. I have never been so miserable as when I worked as a retail pharmacist. No cares about you or if you live or die, you're just a replaceable cog in the machine until the next sucker comes along. I know this sounds morbid but it is just the truth. When death feels like a better option to your current career...get out.
I’m a current P3 student. I’m sorry you didn’t have a good experience, but with you wanting patient interaction then you could’ve done Ambulatory Care. But a lot of what you expressed, I still 100% agree. I hope you have a great career as a hygienist.
Thank you!!
Wow! Thank you for your honesty and you’ll be a great hygienist one day 😁
Thank you for your sweet comment
I dropped out after P1..I don’t think I ever found pharmacy interesting. I just so happened to do it because that was a back up plan and I got in first round. But, I’m glad that I left because i didn’t want to be in 200k debt. Plus Job market is oversaturated right now..and there is a pay cut for new graduates. I’m currently trying to get into cardiac sonography school! I just did my interview two weeks ago..crossing my fingers that I’m in! I wish you the best of luck on your journey and find whatever it is that you wish to pursue!! hope all is well!
Your reasoning for going in was so similar to mine! Just a backup and I got in lol… not a great reason so no wonder we didn’t like it, ya know?? I’m SO happy you’ve found another route that makes you happier! I’ve been a dental hygienist for 1.5 years now and loving it!!
I appreciate your candidness. I just dropped out of my program halfway through the first year last month. Thankfully the loan damage was not too bad at 18K.
Yes, mine’s at 40 for the year! It’s a lot. You made the right choice 100%
@@LivvInspired For sure. It is good that you found an alternative career pathway. I am going into MHA. I heard in your video you are in Dallas? Is that your hometown? I am in Houston and was in pharmacy school in Pennsylvania.
My hometown is Gainesville, Florida! I moved out here when I left pharmacy for a change of pace.
For sure. Also Texas is the state to be for lower costs of living, help pay down that 40k debt of yours a bit quicker.
Yes, love it so far! Good luck to you too!
I currently go to the medical university of south Carolinas pharmacy school and i wish wish wish that was the same for you. They have VAST opportunities for residencies and have a higher than average match rate for residency post graduation. We learn clinical material and you are able to use that knowledge in your career when you pursue a residency. It is a hospital and our clinical pharmacy staff saves lives on a daily basis. They open the door for you to be exposed and each year we have a career showcase where PGY1 & PGY2 recruiters come and do open Q&As. pharmacy isnt all about retail!
That sounds great! I think pharmacy was just not for me regardless of opportunity, as UF is a top 5 school in the nation. I’m so so happy you enjoy your program!!
I know this video is 4 years old, but now they are saying there's a shortage of pharmacists. Retail is offering signing bonuses for new hires. Several years make a huge difference. Also, there are so many paths to take after your PharmD. I've been networking and the sheer range of job titles and experiences are expansive. Sorry it didn't work for you, but I think Pharmacy school is still a great idea if you really love the profession and helping people.
I’m honestly glad you have such a positive outlook on it! I fear that there’s a shortage bc of the working conditions/insurance hurdles/metrics pressures etc… :/ pressure on the medical professionals in general has become an enormous problem. I still face some of that in dental hygiene, but at the end of the day the flexibility on hours and high pay has made me very happy with my decision!
I do agree with you that if it is your passion, you will find alternate routes that are fulfilling and worth it! Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
Just a question. Seriously I went to med school but this isolation is what I felt INTENSELY at my Ivy league school for undergrad as well as med school. Med school was actually less intense than my undergrad, if you can actually believe that. Yes financially it's crazy. I did receive so many grants and scholarships that did help, but today my total debt is north of 200k. Yes not 20, but 200. And I can't be a family doc after as the pay is too low that I'd JUST barely get by after graduation to pay off the loans, mind you the loan payback amount is tiered and increases significantly over the years. Here's the worst part, that I am doing an Oncology residency and we get paid about 45k per year and it's grueling hours at the hospital. Any field in medicine, I think you should only get into these fields ONLY if your passion is seriously seriously about self sacrifice and want to help others, and to find a work setting after all is said and done is a challenge in itself as you need to do your homework and carefully research what hospital / setting / area will put more emphasis on medical care , not tipping the balance towards more business focused. I get pushed by drug reps asking me to write for their new releases and I don't think these companies understand but sometimes it really really adds to our daily practice. My opinions. Don't sue me.
This ia exactly how nursing school was. But you just have to tough it out. It was worth it😊
I’m glad it was! I left and went to hygiene school and have now been a hygienist for two years! :)
There are too many problems in pharmacy especially the saturation.
I 100% agree!
@@LivvInspired yea, working in community pharmacy in northern California, I have seen hour cuts along with intern cuts. I didn't believe it until it happened. And it's not going to change after COVID-19, it is going to be permanent :/
Oh I know, I’m so nervous how covid is affecting everything. I heard of the chains handling this very poorly with pharmacy staff... :/
Im a fresh grad and I really hated being a pharmacist my shifting my career path into academia I hope i get accepted
You will do awesome, just put your mind to it and make it happen! I'm rooting for you :D
P1 here! Great video! Goodluck on your next journey!!
Hey there! Thank you for watching and I wish you the best as well!! :)
I'm actually starting pharmacy school in the fall. I'm moving to a new city with new people, and I'm excited for the most part. However, I'm hearing more and more nightmare stories about pharmacy, but they're mainly about retail. Just wondering, did you look into other pharmacy fields while in pharm school? I know the majority of students end up doing retail, but there are other less saturated fields out there like industry and hospital.
Hi there, so I didn't physically experience it, but they talk to us about it pretty early on. From what I heard, no one gets a hospital job without 1-2 years of residency after school, so if you are interested and wanting to do that then yes it's an option! It is just very competitive, so work towards that from day one if that's your plan. Look into your school's placement rates for sure!
I don't mean to depress you with this video, if you are excited and you've worked in pharmacy before and still love it, then you may have a completely different experience than me. Plus I do agree, the horror stories are coming out of retail! Best of luck to you
PGY1 and PGY2 residents are not getting jobs now too... Please, do yourself a favor and get out while you can.
@@nickjohnson5189 Agreed. A residency is not guaranteed even if you do well in school and have the perfect CV. And even then you may go through another 1-2 years of post-grad residency at minimal pay...only to find yourself unemployed. If anything I'd say that retail is much less saturated than other fields such as clinical and industry etc.
Assalamualaikum sister. I was going to start pharmacy school this fall but I realized that the future looks bleak for the profession. I actually debated with the dean of the school about whether or not the degree is worth it anymore. In the end I decided against it and alhumdullilah I'm happy I did. Im a man so I have to be the bread winner. So I am now pursuing a career will be just as rewarding inshaAllah. My advice to you is if it's your dream then by all means do it. Bit if it is a financial decision then think it over very carefully. Walaikumusalam.
@reshi p I changed my major to computer science. Completely opposite to pharmacy.
Thanks so much Olivia for sharing your story! I think more personal accounts like these are needed to help students (current or prospective) make decisions about if pharmacy is the best path from them. I am a licensed pharmacist and graduated in 2017 so can resonate with much of what you are saying especially regarding not using much of what you learn in school in actual practice. I will say though, that my outlook on pharmacy differs in that I now work in pharmaceutical industry so no stress from patients/ retail grind. I have great work/life balance and have flexibility to work from home normally and now full time with cover 19. If anyone is looking to get into pharmacy I highly suggest looking into industry while still a student. This branch of pharmacy is booming and the company I work for paid for my relocation fees/ sign on bonus. I think one of the issues is that unfortunately many schools don't really teach their students about non-traditional pharmacy path, pretty much just retail and hospital. Hope this info is helpful to folks, and again thanks for sharing!!
I totally agree! They spent about one -two days going over other options, and gave us a brochure.... It got me excited about a few different options, but they never truly got into exploring the different routes. I am so happy for you that you've found an enjoyable and rewarding career in pharmacy! Thanks for sharing :)
Hi Olivia, I came across your video in a timely manner. Here in my country, The Philippines, schools are offering ladderized program leading to Doctor of Pharmacy, meaning you can receive your BS degree under 4 yrs and you have the decision to work as a Pharmacist if you have passed the licensure exam so you can earn first to support your additional 2 yrs of schooling. I graduated in 2014 (BS Degree) and I am in a situation whether should I pursue the 2 yr program to earn the Dr. title or should I travel more once the pandemic is lifted. Sometimes it's a good feeling to be a drug expert (because there are doctors who truly appreciate our grasp about pharmacology) etc, but on the other side, your mind tells you to save mental energy and rest because the payscale of RPh here isn't that attractive (starting salary of 400USD/month with international pharmacy brands like Watsons).
I think pharmacist in USA get high salary even in clinical or community not only in industry. Meanwhile in Indonesia, clinical and community pharmacy are very bad-paid, industry is better here.
You are brave to this video . You are correct about pharmacy!!
I appreciate that so much! Thanks for watching 🥰
im telling you rn i would probably cry if i was graduating in that white coat😂
Same!! So happy to be out
Olivia Armstrong u still graduated even after leaving?
why?
@@Randhawa241 bc its a lot of fucking work and it would be a relief to finally know ive made it somewhere in life
My fiancé is about to drop out because it’s deteriorating our relationship and her total personality has changed. She had a break down or we did yesterday. And she feels like she’d be more present .
At uf
I’m sorry! Yes it’s super tough and I don’t think I could have ever been a good partner while in that program.. dropping out is the best decision I ever made and to this day I say my only regret in life is pursing pharmacy in the first place.. idk if that helps but hopefully she realizes it’s never too late to start something new and that balances her mental health more!! Good luck to you both!!
Is the market saturated overall, or simply in retails?
I would say mostly retail! I’ve heard the other options are just very competitive, if that helps
i’m an upcoming P1 year and i don’t know if i wanna be in the program because it doesn’t interest me much it feels like a chore instead of a career i want, but i don’t know what i’d switch to :( anyone have advice?
Yes get out now!! It’s not worth the insane debt that comes with it. If you’re feeling like this now you will only end up leaving later or being unhappy.. try nursing, dental hygiene, public health, PA, PT or PT assistant maybe?
I loved this video, it really opened my eyes but still want to go to pharmacy school, specifically at UF. Can you do a video explaining your experience making the application? All the steps you followed?
I’m sorry i probably won’t make this video Bc I don’t encourage anyone going into a pharmacy program, BUT I do respect your decision! Someone gotta do it :p good luck and I hope you find the resources you need
I want to listen, but sound is horrible.
Sorry!
I know you posted this a year ago, but I’m about to go into my 3rd year, and debating dropping out. What you said resonated with me so much… I’m juggling with the concept of dealing with the debt I’ve already accumulated, or continue getting deeper into debt to finish the program with no guarantee for a good job that I’ll even like :(
I know it’s so tough but you’ll be happy you got out while you still could. Also will save somewhere around $50k for that least year. You could use half of that money to put into paying for a different (shorter) program like dental hygiene and come out making $55 an hour and pay off your debt! Good luck!
@A C actually I am! And a ton of temp jobs offer $65 per hour in my area if I ever want to pick up a Friday or Saturday shift. (I work M-Th). Also, others’ opinions could not have had less weight in my career decisions!
I like to watch your vedio, but the background sound is really annoying.
Sorry!
Video content starts around 3:00 to be honest presentation is pretty scattered.... Did you ever plan to get accepted into pharmacy school to major in drama? The problem is people underestimate the level of sacrifice they will need to make to succeed in pharmacy school. It is a long term investment. You don't make a dollar until you invest 6 figures and 4 years in Pharmacy college.....BTW pharmacy students do earn a Pharm D but consider med students don't become attending physicians until minimum 3 years post grad medical school.....anyways I hope you find a career where you can perfect your skills and develop your.passion...I actually left 2nd year of pharm school on medical leave of absence for foot surgery....I did not go back as I had planned....I'm still evaluating which career to pursue, I like to work for myself or at least have the option but I am also practical so considering becoming a CPA, real estate agent/investor...etc.....watching videos of my class of 2021 graduating brings mixed feelings....every job or career will require sacrifice....it sounds as though your business goals and entrepreneurial spirit would make you more well suited to a career where you could start working for someone else and eventually have the option to work for yourself....as a hygienist you will earn good money but you will never have autonomy....did you ever meet a hygienist in independent practice? I haven't.....they all work under a dentist so please keep this in mind before diving in to being a hygeinist....I honestly think you are not really going to be long term happy in any career where the highest you can rise is being a really well payed employee... you have an entrepreneurial spirit and I believe you would find career happiness in a position where you can eventually be your own boss or at least have equal ownership in a shared venture....🙏✝️🕊
I realized I can make more/at least the same amount in dental hygiene and not spend years of my life getting there so luckily this has worked out for me!
Whats the song in the intro?
I wish I did the same, Don’t Do Pharmacy!
Hey @Typhon if is it possible can you share why you don't courage to do pharmacy?
Agreed 100% best decision ever to leave!
@@bashaerhaddad4619 well job saturation, decreasing jobs, decrease pay, treated trash by customers and employers, easily replaceable, 250k student loan with interest
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z I actually didn't do pharmacy, I did SLP instead but I'm not so happy with it ..
Pharmacy is a great career, there is decline in some areas but huge increase in others. pharmacy is changing and in 20 years there will be so many more jobs and it will be easier on the pharmacist due to automation and AI. There isn’t going to be a professional job, who’s schooling isn’t going to be insanely stressful, and depressing. I know many MDs who hate their job or wish they could’ve done something different, same goes for PA and Law. No Job paying over 100k is going to be sunshine and flowers. If you are looking for something like that, go do something easy, shut up & stop complaining.
www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/pharmacists.htm
-2% job decline, doesn't look like huge growth to me
Just popping in to say that I now make over 6 figures and love my job! It is so rude to tell people to shut up, are you serious?? I'll post whatever I want and continue to guide others and help where I can but I hope you have a great day!
The things everybody wants to say but does not. Also, if a machine can interpret electronic prescription where mistakes are made by physicians and clinically interpret the significance of interactions - maybe those machines deserve the automation takeover haha
Thank you for watching!
You honestly made a good decision dropping out of pharmacy school. Its sad that the pharmacy job market is so ridiculously saturated and that pharmacists are being treated poorly by both customers and retail chain executives alike. I got accepted into pharmacy school and decided not to go 4 months before the start of my first year. I think I made the right decision and I think you did too. I decided to apply for an Engineering PhD instead.
Good for you!! You will be much happier!!
excellent
Thank you!
Don't take this the wrong way but I think you were right to leave pharmacy but for all of the wrong reasons. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience your P1 year. I can't blame you for not wanting to do a pharmacy fraternity, it's primarily geared towards people who didn't do greek life in undergrad. I hated the undergrad fraternities but absolutely loved my time in Phi Delta Chi. I think you're dead wrong about the money and debt aspect. I was able to save and invest all throughout my years working after graduation and I got up to 500k by the time I was 31. Paid off my debt, no slave to any company, it was great. The right reason to leave pharmacy is the direction this country is heading where pharmacy is treated like a damn mcdonalds. It's tough to be a pharmacist and you need a thick skin. I think you're on the right path right now and I wish you all the best.
I just don’t agree but that’s okay and we’re all allowed to have our own opinions! Every pharmacist I know is in debt :/ and maybe it didn’t come through enough in the video, but I was very turned off by how retail Pharm is run, the way everyone’s miserable, tired and uncared for by the big corporations- not just fraternities. I’ve said this a few other times- but I read the face book pharmacy pages almost every day as I’m scrolling and I’m just beyond thankful I’m not doing it anymore based on everything everyone says. I think you’re very lucky and did all the right things to prevent debt and being a slave to a company, but for most others, that’s just not the case unfortunately! I wish you the best and I’m glad you found a happy life in pharmacy!
Apply for Dental school ?
I think I will be happy doing hygiene at this point, but dental was definitely a consideration! Thanks for watching :)
@@LivvInspired If you could handle pharm school at UF you can handle about any hard core PhD/MD type degree . I dated a pharm student in college who went to UF and she was smart as hell and worked her butt off . Anyway YOU have to be happy and I wish you the best .
Thanks so much for that! UF programs definitely put you to the test! 💪🏼
Hey Olivia,
LOVE the journey. RESPECT your decision. How can I get you on my podcast ?
I’m not sure! What’s your podcast?!
What about Rn nursing ?!
Nursing is the worst , pay is poor for all the stress , being beat patients and being treated like a maid.
A have a TON of friends in nursing and think it’s a great profession. Yes you work long hours as well. But you’re constantly moving and have a ton of hands-on patient interaction. I believe they’re making good money as well :)
Olivia Armstrong I thought about pharmacy school !!! I shadowed a pharmacist is it worth it !! I love science and chemistry 🧪
Megan Clark then do graduate school phd and study chemistry
I think the nursing program now is much harder than pharmacy program
Advice for everyone working hard 😓 this was her opinion she’s obviously very social and beautiful. If you’re an ugly go for pharmacy. If you are an 7 with a 10 attitude apply to medical school.
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lmao shes too beautiful and blonde to be locked away in a pharmacy tower?
Maybe it's because I'm in my 30s, but turning your back on a career where you will be making six figures because your program wasn't social enough, people get mad at you in retail settings, etc is the apex of Gen Z hypersensitivity.
I’m 27 and we’re the same generation for starters 👍🏼 but If you knew me (which you don’t) you would never even consider using the word “hypersensitive” to describe my professional character. Do not come on my channel to attack my work ethic or my opinions on a career in pharmacy before you do some research. New grads are making in the low 60s and hour. That is IF they can find a job. Many cannot. They have $250,000+ of debt. This is before interest. Every senior pharmacist you ask will say that the profession is nothing like it used to be and to run in the other direction. I am reminded DAILY (because I still follow tons of pharmacy news and pages) how thankful I am to have gotten away from this career. This decision has nothing to do with my generation.