The claim by the manufacturer is that this product is a "signal blocker." This implies that meaningful signals will be attenuated to a degree that they are no longer meaningful. It doesn't necessarily imply sufficient attenuation at a broad enough array of frequencies to serve as EMP protection. However, there are other EMP protection device manufacturers that have video of simulated EMP pulses where laptops and cell phones that are not connected to any external wires survive the pulse with no additional protection. When a device is connected to a wire (power cord, usb cable, external antenna, etc.) that increases the amount of impulse signal into the device then they failed (example used was an active inverter). So it is possible that some small electronic devices may survive an EMP with minimal additional protection. Your video does clearly demonstrate that least at VHF/UHF frequencies these bags provide an amount of attenuation that is much higher than the anti-static bags.
I have found out that the more layers the better. The faraday NX bags took two layers to block a small hand held radio from receiving a signal just outside the bag.
The radio should not work . It doesn't matter if your right there or a hundred miles away. It should not go through. Good video. God job. Not worth the money. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Nice for going off grid but real emp power levels will go right through. Look at military emp protection specs and you’ll see a bag wil not do it. Lead lined concrete bunker, maybe.
If 5 watts is getting through even at close range, it most likely would not protect the radio in the even of an emp. Try putting the radio inside the bag and then put the bag inside a steel ammo can, that should block the signals with the 2 layers, if it dosent then an emp will still get through
The steel ammo can would still need to be 'electrically' sealed .. that is .. a metal shielding gasket around the lip allowing FULL bare metal to metal contact.
These bags seem to work, fairly well. Obviously, you can't do a real world bomb test! (Dang it!) My thing is, in order for these bags to work, you have to leave your electronics in them 24/7! Because we can't predict exactly when that emergency is going to happen! And if an EMP wiped out "the grid" on a wide scale, A) most electronics couldn't communicate with any other products! B) Even if the bag failed, and your stuff was toast, you couldn't complain to the manufacture! As all communications are out! Damned if you Do, and Damned if you Don't! 😢
From an expert like you I would have expected that you know the difference between a static dissipative (less than 10 to the power of 12 Ohm per cm) and an ESD shielding bag with less than 10 power 5 Ohm per cm. Plus neither of those are designed to block RF. Unfortunatley I feel like this time you were more focused on the entertainment than a good review.
I learned 10 times more about RF shieding in the mainstream channel Linux Tech Tips' video on RF blocking "There goes all my phone sponsorships…" that was published 12 days ago.
Love the comment. Never claimed to be an expert... Love me some good entertainment. Now disappear and NEVER watch any of these videos again.... I beg you...
If you can't test it right next to the bag as you said because it wont pass the test.........It failed the test...... Saying the tower needs to be farther away is saying it only blocks weaker signals. You must be bought by the company!
The claim by the manufacturer is that this product is a "signal blocker." This implies that meaningful signals will be attenuated to a degree that they are no longer meaningful. It doesn't necessarily imply sufficient attenuation at a broad enough array of frequencies to serve as EMP protection.
However, there are other EMP protection device manufacturers that have video of simulated EMP pulses where laptops and cell phones that are not connected to any external wires survive the pulse with no additional protection.
When a device is connected to a wire (power cord, usb cable, external antenna, etc.) that increases the amount of impulse signal into the device then they failed (example used was an active inverter). So it is possible that some small electronic devices may survive an EMP with minimal additional protection.
Your video does clearly demonstrate that least at VHF/UHF frequencies these bags provide an amount of attenuation that is much higher than the anti-static bags.
It is clear that he is effective, right?
I'm worried that someone may hack my smartphone through Wi-Fi. I suppose the package can protect my phone.
I would like to have one.
When I work hard, I don't want my car to be stolen.
From your neighbor, thanks!
I have found out that the more layers the better. The faraday NX bags took two layers to block a small hand held radio from receiving a signal just outside the bag.
My main reason for a bag is EMPs. Can you try the radio to radio test in double bags and see what happens?
More layers the better.
The radio should not work . It doesn't matter if your right there or a hundred miles away. It should not go through. Good video. God job. Not worth the money. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Nice for going off grid but real emp power levels will go right through. Look at military emp protection specs and you’ll see a bag wil not do it. Lead lined concrete bunker, maybe.
"How to hide from your wife!" Now thats a good title for this video! 😂
If 5 watts is getting through even at close range, it most likely would not protect the radio in the even of an emp. Try putting the radio inside the bag and then put the bag inside a steel ammo can, that should block the signals with the 2 layers, if it dosent then an emp will still get through
The steel ammo can would still need to be 'electrically' sealed .. that is .. a metal shielding gasket around the lip allowing FULL bare metal to metal contact.
nice!
Between this and the Faraday trash can, you could really get protected.
After the radio test? Say less!....Amazon says currently unavailable.
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Amazon
@@HamRadioConcepts Found it! I just had to search for SEND IT. Thank you
These bags seem to work, fairly well. Obviously, you can't do a real world bomb test! (Dang it!) My thing is, in order for these bags to work, you have to leave your electronics in them 24/7! Because we can't predict exactly when that emergency is going to happen! And if an EMP wiped out "the grid" on a wide scale, A) most electronics couldn't communicate with any other products! B) Even if the bag failed, and your stuff was toast, you couldn't complain to the manufacture! As all communications are out!
Damned if you Do, and Damned if you Don't! 😢
From an expert like you I would have expected that you know the difference between a static dissipative (less than 10 to the power of 12 Ohm per cm) and an ESD shielding bag with less than 10 power 5 Ohm per cm. Plus neither of those are designed to block RF. Unfortunatley I feel like this time you were more focused on the entertainment than a good review.
I learned 10 times more about RF shieding in the mainstream channel Linux Tech Tips' video on RF blocking "There goes all my phone sponsorships…" that was published 12 days ago.
Love the comment. Never claimed to be an expert... Love me some good entertainment. Now disappear and NEVER watch any of these videos again.... I beg you...
Good.. STOP WATCHING MY VIDEOS...
There is a noticeable difference between the two types of bags.
If you can't test it right next to the bag as you said because it wont pass the test.........It failed the test...... Saying the tower needs to be farther away is saying it only blocks weaker signals. You must be bought by the company!
The anti static bag didn’t work because it wasn’t insulated
I don't think an EMP would allow for a "hack". You can say a ziplock bag is waterproof. I call bs. Put it in the cage and zap it
These bags are complete waste of money as "EMP protection devices" 😂
they might work for stopping a few milliwatts from passing through