Nice to see it's not only NSW branch lines that are in disgusting condition, AK Cars battled to get over 30-40KMh is first parts of the video. My we have let our once grand railways deteriorate over the years, shame! I really enjoyed the country scenery, worth the video alone, thanks Pannier.
Progress, it now takes a 5 car consist and who knows how many crew to do what one EM car with a 2 man crew would do. Beautifully filmed video, with no annoying added music, just the tick over of the engines.
The slow speed reminds me of riding the Thai railways in the 70s. Slow and easy and you stop at every little station. We always rode 3rd class with the chickens, but what an experience.
@@davidjohnson2441 that happens every time the AK cars run over this line. "emergency repairs" every single time. Its a miracle that its only had one minor derailment in the last few years
Nicely done video! A slow ride, I preferred to watch it at 2x speed. Please consider adding a map, and a mention of brief history and future expectations for this line?
It was converted on the cheap (ie. No improvements/fixes to the underlying roadbed, just new sleepers and repositioned existing track afaik) because there was going to be no way to use the line after the NE got gauge converted and has usually only seen emergency maintenance ever since. It's not surprising it's deteriorated so badly.
This is much better than when thebusofdoomFSX chased a train on this line a couple years ago, clearly they’ve done some work on it. That Tungamah spot hasn’t changed though!
Hasn't improved since the last time l went that way and Im retired now lol...I wonder what the cost of running those AK cars was...that money surely could have been spent on the track...however l think it needs lots of work and l bet the local track patrol could tell them whats wrong. reminds me of the track to North Star..and that's another story lol. I used to enjoy running a Wheatie up there spend the night at Club Malwala while a crew from Cootermundra or further out would load it for us.....We would pull the train up behind the Club then change crews do the reverse on the return...always arrived at a reasonable time into Yarrawonga. Again thank-you for the wonderful journey and insight...regards Doc from Maryborough
I did a journey from Southern Cross to Albury a few years ago, it was Christmas Eve hot 38 degrees too hot the train was overloaded, passengers were in seats, in aisles, on floor, in door ways it was jam packed in every carriage as we got up towards the the Border the train was speeding so fast it tilted and you could feel it lift off the rails...people were screaming, kids were crying, it was mass hysteria ...it got so bad the Guards were locking themselves in as people demanded it stop...it didn't till it got to Albury...there were people injured and physically sick with anxiety...no one came to help, no help arrived luckily it didn't end in total disaster...
At Oaklands there were two boxlike lanterns which had holes punched in them to denote the gauge yard limit, one says VIC the other NSW. These lanterns are in a little museum at Oaklands. I dimly recall seeing a photo of a CPH and DERM at the platform, not sure when this happened. There were complex rules about what happened if two trains from opposite directions arrived, Junee and Benalla had to talk on the phone.
I travelled to Oaklands in the late ‘70s, the dual gauge yard was a sight to behold. In 1984 I rode a wheaty in the van from Junee to Urana the terminus at the time.
Maybe the people who use the train should complain about the poor quality of the track to the state government member whose electorate the train passes through to hopefully get it fixed
They have lasers that measure the deviation from the theoretical ideal. The data is then handed to the maintenance department and they can decide how much to fix it.
42103 has same 16-567C engine as an F9 but Co-Co bogies/trucks, six powered axles like an SD model. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_421_class_locomotive GM10 is an older but generally similar version, originally had A1A-A1A bogies. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Railways_GM_class
If it were the safety nazis at V/Line managing this track instead of the present ARTC, the line would've been shut years ago and hundreds of thousands of tonnes of grain would've gone by truck to port.
anyone, (with lots of money) can restore trains, trolleys ,, but what about the tracks? a fine example is, the sea shore trolley museum. They, have a great crew of workers, restoring them, it's a wonderful place,, been going there since i was 7, i'm 59 now. The line that goes out, is terrible. after spending millions on the place,,, the tracks suck. Just watching them fall apart after restoring them, isn't a fun thing to see, as the tweek, with all the woodwork,, it's a shame. The line should be longer, and double. the collection there is amazing, and should be looked after with more funds. I know it's not easy, but i'd love to tell someone, to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, JUST DO IT.
All I can say is that it is a disgrace that our rail lines are in such poor condition. Privatization has not improved any service that the government in any state has sold off. Profits over the communities needs.
Nice to see it's not only NSW branch lines that are in disgusting condition, AK Cars battled to get over 30-40KMh is first parts of the video. My we have let our once grand railways deteriorate over the years, shame! I really enjoyed the country scenery, worth the video alone, thanks Pannier.
The entire line has a 30 km/h speed restriction on it.
SA & NSW are the world rail networks. Victoria is actually no 1 with WA behind at No 2 so where you're getting your opinions from is wrong.
Progress, it now takes a 5 car consist and who knows how many crew to do what one EM car with a 2 man crew would do. Beautifully filmed video, with no annoying added music, just the tick over of the engines.
Love watching SSR's locomotives, No matter what they're pulling.
Again you show your mastery in composition. This enhances the subject matter. Great to watch
It's so strange to watch the locos sway like that. Thanks for the video!
A delightful scenic journey!! Wonderful photography and editing!
Beautifully shot and produced, what a gem👍
Third world track is the story of Victorian railways even in Melbourne, it's going to take a disaster like Granville in NSW to get them to act.
Rubbish. Victoria is still No with railways in Australia, has been since 1854.
SA is shit, so is NSW, so is QLD.
1:57 can't believe how orange the land and sky is in that sunrise!
Great video, magnificent power there.
02:04 perfect shoot
Again another work of art you could fill an art gallery with these living moving landscapes with audio
Great video as always Adam, certainly needs alot of work to bring it up to scratch the Oaklands line.
The slow speed reminds me of riding the Thai railways in the 70s. Slow and easy and you stop at every little station. We always rode 3rd class with the chickens, but what an experience.
No doubt the AK Cars will give the Oaklands branch a bad report card!
Oh yeah
They closed the line for 2 weeks after this run.
@@davidjohnson2441 that happens every time the AK cars run over this line. "emergency repairs" every single time. Its a miracle that its only had one minor derailment in the last few years
Thanks for sharing, your composition and videography is amazing.
Nicely done video! A slow ride, I preferred to watch it at 2x speed. Please consider adding a map, and a mention of brief history and future expectations for this line?
Mesmerizing artistry.
For a line that was converted from broad to standard gauge not all that long ago, it's certainly a goat track.
It was converted on the cheap (ie. No improvements/fixes to the underlying roadbed, just new sleepers and repositioned existing track afaik) because there was going to be no way to use the line after the NE got gauge converted and has usually only seen emergency maintenance ever since. It's not surprising it's deteriorated so badly.
@@TheDemocrab I was surprised to see the AK cars on the line, I'm assuming it's Victorian not ARTC.
@ 3:22 , i love the art. better than the grafiti usually seen .
G´day Mate!! Kind regards from Buenos Aires, Argentina, amazing footage... All the best, Rodolfo
That was a good day out. Well shot.
Excellent.
The ARHS asked VR if they can have the Sloan nameboard, VR said you can have the whole lot, so the mallee shed is in the museum.
This is much better than when thebusofdoomFSX chased a train on this line a couple years ago, clearly they’ve done some work on it. That Tungamah spot hasn’t changed though!
brilliant filming as always
Great video…track needs more than just a bit of TLC.
Nice Video Pannier!
World class track maintenance lmfao 😂😂
if there were any seasickness pills in the first aid kit when the train left benalla there wont be any when they got back there.
Hmm, looks more like the main south in between Moss Vale and Goulburn.
They talk of high speed rail and cannot do low speed. Great video. Drivers need a medal. So what was the diagnosis?
Thanks.
Hasn't improved since the last time l went that way and Im retired now lol...I wonder what the cost of running those AK cars was...that money surely could have been spent on the track...however l think it needs lots of work and l bet the local track patrol could tell them whats wrong. reminds me of the track to North Star..and that's another story lol.
I used to enjoy running a Wheatie up there spend the night at Club Malwala while a crew from Cootermundra or further out would load it for us.....We would pull the train up behind the Club then change crews do the reverse on the return...always arrived at a reasonable time into Yarrawonga.
Again thank-you for the wonderful journey and insight...regards Doc from Maryborough
I did a journey from Southern Cross to Albury a few years ago, it was Christmas Eve hot 38 degrees too hot the train was overloaded, passengers were in seats, in aisles, on floor, in door ways it was jam packed in every carriage as we got up towards the the Border the train was speeding so fast it tilted and you could feel it lift off the rails...people were screaming, kids were crying, it was mass hysteria ...it got so bad the Guards were locking themselves in as people demanded it stop...it didn't till it got to Albury...there were people injured and physically sick with anxiety...no one came to help, no help arrived luckily it didn't end in total disaster...
Poor old locos would need a good blast up the main line after that run.
I've never seen such a slow train.
At Oaklands there were two boxlike lanterns which had holes punched in them to denote the gauge yard limit, one says VIC the other NSW. These lanterns are in a little museum at Oaklands.
I dimly recall seeing a photo of a CPH and DERM at the platform, not sure when this happened.
There were complex rules about what happened if two trains from opposite directions arrived, Junee and Benalla had to talk on the phone.
There was a special CPH, I think, run to Oakland’s a couple of years ago. You should be able to find it here. Good luck.
The video is there, just checked. Not CPH though.
@@jimcrawford5039 I think it was in the ‘70s or ‘60s when both lines were open. It might have been in Divisional Diary or Bulletin.
This tilt is dangerous...
I'd like to see the printout from the track recording car at the end of that
3rd world railways. That's really embarrassing! We are so behind the rest of the world!
The condition of that line is an indictment on our Govts. Disgraceful.
It is sad the way we have let the rails deteriorate 😢
Very important to have Oaklands grain!!!!!
And how strange that NSW allowed Victorian Railways to invade their territory !
VR was involved in NSW prior to the takeover/sale of the State Railway systems ............
An interesting point. Invasions to Albury, Oaklands, Deniliquin, Balranald. All broad gauge.
I travelled to Oaklands in the late ‘70s, the dual gauge yard was a sight to behold. In 1984 I rode a wheaty in the van from Junee to Urana the terminus at the time.
@@brucewilliams8714 not anymore for Albury it's all Standard now V/line still goes to Albury but its a Velocity train now
Maybe the people who use the train should complain about the poor quality of the track to the state government member whose electorate the train passes through to hopefully get it fixed
Very well done video,you Brits have a nice collection of vintage locomotives.
They are in Australia mate
@@Iwishiwasflying same thing
Great video, how exactly do those cars assess the condition of the tracks?
If it doesn’t derail the track is OK.
They have lasers that measure the deviation from the theoretical ideal. The data is then handed to the maintenance department and they can decide how much to fix it.
@@FloydBromley Thanks for the information mate 👍
Are the locos similar to the EMD F series?
42103 has same 16-567C engine as an F9 but Co-Co bogies/trucks, six powered axles like an SD model.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_421_class_locomotive
GM10 is an older but generally similar version, originally had A1A-A1A bogies.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Railways_GM_class
Is that now standard gauge track ?
yes, done when the bg track to albury was converted.
Wouldn’t take much of an investment to make every driving car to actively monitor and report track condition.
Out of genuine curiosity, why the two engines?
If one failed they have a backup
Plus GM10, she's 70 years old.
Wow ! you call that bad track 🤣 go check out some of the American railroad tracks
If it were the safety nazis at V/Line managing this track instead of the present ARTC, the line would've been shut years ago and hundreds of thousands of tonnes of grain would've gone by truck to port.
So this is a broad gauge line?
No
anyone, (with lots of money) can restore trains, trolleys ,, but what about the tracks? a fine example is, the sea shore trolley museum. They, have a great crew of workers, restoring them, it's a wonderful place,, been going there since i was 7, i'm 59 now. The line that goes out, is terrible. after spending millions on the place,,, the tracks suck. Just watching them fall apart after restoring them, isn't a fun thing to see, as the tweek, with all the woodwork,, it's a shame. The line should be longer, and double. the collection there is amazing, and should be looked after with more funds. I know it's not easy, but i'd love to tell someone, to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, JUST DO IT.
All I can say is that it is a disgrace that our rail lines are in such poor condition. Privatization has not improved any service that the government in any state has sold off. Profits over the communities needs.
Where is the Bad Track you showed in the Thumbnail? Ridiculous video
The Tungamah Bank. 16:51
Where are the covid camps?