I was handed an incorrectly sized helmet in Basic Training because it was “all they had”. Let me tell you, whatever the lead times are, it’s worth waiting for the proper size!
A huge point to be made. When you get an opscore helmet. For the love of god READ THE MANUAL. Walsh forgot to mention another very neat feature about the adjustment of the suspension system. The inner band you can adjust to be narrower or rounder to better fit your head shape. Which most definitely makes a huge difference for long term comfort. Furthermore, you can also change the ride height of the worm or occ dial on the nape to really lock the helmet down to your head without using the chin strap. With the 4D pads and properly adjusted suspension in my opinion this blows the team wendy system out of the water in terms of comfort and functionality.
This channel has really become my go to channel for reviews. From the K19 to the BALDR S to the Defense Mechanism placards, you have yet to lead me wrong. Thanks for all you do.
People should check out Oxide's review of this helmet. He actually tested the ballistics and his summary was "$2000 for ECH performance." People can do what they want with their money, but I would think after spending all that for a "gucci" helmet, you would expect it to outperform a helmet designed in 2007 that you can find on e-bay for less than half the cost.
Very well put together. What type of maintenance will you need on these? Replace the pads every X months? Wipe down with damp cloth after every use? Curious #teamcorrie
I haven't had to yet but i'd probably just pop em out and clean them under the sink with some dish soap and let them air dry. The 4d pads from TNVC say they can go in the washing machine but I'd probably still just hand clean em so they didn't get tore up.
When you’re an agency buying a bunch of stuff, you have to pay attention to shelf life because it cuts into the “expiration date”. Once protective equipment reaches its expiration date, the agency has to replace it for insurance purposes. This isn’t really an issue for the civilian market. The only time you have to replace protective equipment, is when it’s visibly deteriorating or has been otherwise compromised.
In the MIL/LE world, they hold a 5 year "shelf life" from date of manufacturing for any armor related item. So MIL/LE would have to buy a new helmet every 5 years. Walsh did a video about how your body armor doesn't really expire. - Not Jason
I may show off their bump but they won't talk to me to review one.... I'd recommend just getting a team wendy or ops core for that kind of money The mlok system just isn't fleshed out for helmets and you'll have 1 or two ways to connect in... and of those don't work... too bad.
I'm hoping you'll one day review the Avon N49 ULW. Botach sells it for $670, which seems way too good to be true. But i'd also like to trust a product from Avon. Thoughts?
The SF trades too much ballistics for weight. The XR is your best weight and ballistics tradeoff. Also from the future, the rail link is almost out and the accessories with the system are 4600 lol.
$3500!? 😳😮 No thanks. "Protection" is subjective. If the round doesn't penetrate, the back face deformation will will f*** you up. That's assuming the round didn't snap your neck. If you just want to look cool and have extra shit to weigh your head down, just get a bump helmet.
I watch this entire video just to see Mrs. Walsh model the helmet. Dont waist your time, this video was made on planet bull crap and Mrs Walsh wasn't there.
So, I don’t really use it, but the only helmet I have is an old PASGT that I got off my first ship. (I didn’t steal it. I was told to get rid of everything in the space, and that was in the space) Honestly, a helmet was pretty far down my list of things to get. Then I saw a video of a cop getting hit by a “peaceful protester” with a baseball bat. The only reason he was able to get away was because of his helmet. It’s made me consider at least getting a bump helmet.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo seems like ops-core is confusing people now. Just checked their spec sheet and they've changed what it used to say. So for years the ops-core spec sheet would only list their in house testing certification "Specification FAST SF PS-1228" which is their in house testing that is supposed to hold up to NIJ but isn't third party certified so you can only trust what ops-core says on that. I see they are now listing the NIJ IIIA standard on their spec sheet but they don't clarify if they actually got it certified or just claiming it meets those standards like some body armor manufacturers do as well. Team Wendy actually list the certification for the NIJ standard so you know it was actually third party tested. Ops-core must have very recently changed the spec sheet on the SF because I just had this conversation a few months back and it still only listed their in house standard. I would be super curious to find out if they actually certified now.
at the very bottom the spec sheet it list "REV.20220601" so they just pushed that revision out but I still think it's misleading if they haven't actually certified.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo yea I know those new lids are rifle rated but I'm still dubious if ops core got their SF certified. I'm going to shoot them an email.
Hey, would you guys ever do a comparison between a name brand bump helmet and a name brand “airsoft” helmet? Other than the padding, I don’t see a big difference in construction at all, but what the hell do I know. 🤷🏻♂️😂
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Lol, thanks. I’ve heard the FMA EXF helmet is actually pretty good. They all seem to have similar construction of foam and abs plastic. I know the padding and straps are the main difference, but those can be upgraded. Not trying to be a cheap ass, just curious. 😂✌🏼
Way over priced! Plain and simple. I and my other senior NCO's turned them down as we feel the MICH is a better helmet. No protection around the side, (ears) against a bullet on the Ops Core. I'll take a MICH all day over there price!
I was handed an incorrectly sized helmet in Basic Training because it was “all they had”. Let me tell you, whatever the lead times are, it’s worth waiting for the proper size!
oh no haha that would be horrible!
@@ThinLineDefenseCo It was easily two sizes too big. 😂
A huge point to be made. When you get an opscore helmet. For the love of god READ THE MANUAL.
Walsh forgot to mention another very neat feature about the adjustment of the suspension system. The inner band you can adjust to be narrower or rounder to better fit your head shape. Which most definitely makes a huge difference for long term comfort.
Furthermore, you can also change the ride height of the worm or occ dial on the nape to really lock the helmet down to your head without using the chin strap.
With the 4D pads and properly adjusted suspension in my opinion this blows the team wendy system out of the water in terms of comfort and functionality.
This channel has really become my go to channel for reviews. From the K19 to the BALDR S to the Defense Mechanism placards, you have yet to lead me wrong. Thanks for all you do.
Appreciate the kind words!
-Walsh
Great review! Rain is one consideration for choosing the ballistic offering, and added stability for monoculars.
Wish you wouldn’t giggle every other line, but thanks for the information.
is this where I say...too bad? I think it is lol
thanks for watching
-Walsh
I have a 3a helm from Protection Group Denmark and like it alot.
People should check out Oxide's review of this helmet. He actually tested the ballistics and his summary was "$2000 for ECH performance." People can do what they want with their money, but I would think after spending all that for a "gucci" helmet, you would expect it to outperform a helmet designed in 2007 that you can find on e-bay for less than half the cost.
$1,800? Unfortunately I only have a helmet budget of $1,799.
Oh! I'll lend you a dollar..problem solved lol
I let ops core know to go ahead and get your order ready!
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I appreciate it...but I'll wait for the giveaway 😆
I just subscribed. You've got great delivery and quality content.
Thank You.
appreciate it and thanks for watching!
-Walsh
Is that a Bump Helmet? Is thin?
ballistic helmet. no thin
-Walsh
Very well put together. What type of maintenance will you need on these? Replace the pads every X months? Wipe down with damp cloth after every use? Curious
#teamcorrie
I haven't had to yet but i'd probably just pop em out and clean them under the sink with some dish soap and let them air dry. The 4d pads from TNVC say they can go in the washing machine but I'd probably still just hand clean em so they didn't get tore up.
Thanks for making this video! You earned a new sub for sure!
Is the sf high cut shell shape different to the fast maritime ?
Late to the party but they are both the same cut
I’m not MIL/LE, just a dumb nasty…maybe you could help me understand something a little more clearly: did you say “shelf life”?
When you’re an agency buying a bunch of stuff, you have to pay attention to shelf life because it cuts into the “expiration date”. Once protective equipment reaches its expiration date, the agency has to replace it for insurance purposes. This isn’t really an issue for the civilian market. The only time you have to replace protective equipment, is when it’s visibly deteriorating or has been otherwise compromised.
In the MIL/LE world, they hold a 5 year "shelf life" from date of manufacturing for any armor related item. So MIL/LE would have to buy a new helmet every 5 years. Walsh did a video about how your body armor doesn't really expire.
- Not Jason
How big is your head and what size did you get? I'm around 23" (sometimes 23.5) and I dont know if I should go L or XL
I did an XL I believe... I'd ask them to send their little head measuring tape thing. Then you know you got the right size
Did you end it up going for L or XL? I'm having exactly the same situation
@donwarren3253
Can you do a review of the HHV ATE Lite helmet?
I may show off their bump but they won't talk to me to review one.... I'd recommend just getting a team wendy or ops core for that kind of money
The mlok system just isn't fleshed out for helmets and you'll have 1 or two ways to connect in... and of those don't work... too bad.
This guy is the Doug DeMuro of the tactical world
Well Doug is taller, younger, and WAY more handsome than Walsh
- Jason
who the heck is Doug DeMuro?
is he awesome like me?
-Walsh
Can you please review the Blue Force Gear PlateMinus 6? With the cumberbund.
Walsh what's the eyewear hanging on your chestrig?
ops core mk1 with high contrast lenses
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Thank you! Be safe! 🤙🙏🇺🇲
I'm hoping you'll one day review the Avon N49 ULW. Botach sells it for $670, which seems way too good to be true. But i'd also like to trust a product from Avon. Thoughts?
Best bang for the buck IMHO
$1400 and only size is XL in Black?!? Is it ever in stock and on sale for under $700?
What's the pouch on the front of your chest rig?
that's a haley strategic dc3rm micro with a scrim wrap over the front.
-Walsh
The SF trades too much ballistics for weight. The XR is your best weight and ballistics tradeoff. Also from the future, the rail link is almost out and the accessories with the system are 4600 lol.
haha yea that rail link is pretty pricey. Agreed on the XR, I think that's the best weight to protection trade off....it's just pricey also!
Im just curious here. who else head Measured 22" and bought a large????? Mine did and I bought a large and im wishing I would have bought a medium
I’m having this same problem and not sure which size to get. Everyone says size up but I feel it will be to big
Can’t really call it a review if you didn’t test how well it doesn’t against bullets…
haha yea.... the guy in his backyard has a ballistics test lab.
This is dumb
- Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Can’t really call it a review if you didn’t test how well it doesn’t against bullets…
lol go shoot yours then.
I'm sure it'll be super value added
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I don’t waste money on garbage, sorry 💅🏿
but you want me to? lol I'm convinced you may be a moron
At $1700, I hope it’s the best…
Bro, I'm sorry to tell you that's medium pricerange.
Phunctionality 🎉
lol I’m so used to wearing my ACH for long extended periods of time. 3.8 lbs is nothing
"get your VA compensation with this one easy trick"
seriously.... go lighter. Old you will thank you. Being tough is dumb
-Tough Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo I wish I could but I’m regular Army and it depends on the units SOP on what you can wear 🥲
True but as a Top, keep those records for your inevitable VA claim. Not kidding.
-Walsh
@@ThinLineDefenseCo thank you! Keep up the great content! I did get a K-Zero plate carrier because of your videos!
8ph
$3500!? 😳😮 No thanks. "Protection" is subjective. If the round doesn't penetrate, the back face deformation will will f*** you up. That's assuming the round didn't snap your neck. If you just want to look cool and have extra shit to weigh your head down, just get a bump helmet.
Anyone where these i am from south africa.
Gucci gear 😊
If they send you the wrong size just send it back
very possible but these are often made to order. You could be looking at a 6 month wait for your exchange
-Walsh
I cringed every time you said "pfunctionality"
I think that was the joke lol
-your literal dad
Son?
I watch this entire video just to see Mrs. Walsh model the helmet. Dont waist your time, this video was made on planet bull crap and Mrs Walsh wasn't there.
So, I don’t really use it, but the only helmet I have is an old PASGT that I got off my first ship. (I didn’t steal it. I was told to get rid of everything in the space, and that was in the space) Honestly, a helmet was pretty far down my list of things to get. Then I saw a video of a cop getting hit by a “peaceful protester” with a baseball bat. The only reason he was able to get away was because of his helmet. It’s made me consider at least getting a bump helmet.
The team Wendy has a higher ballistic rating. Ops core could only use their own in house rating.
maybe I'm confused.... they're both NIJ certified
@@ThinLineDefenseCo seems like ops-core is confusing people now. Just checked their spec sheet and they've changed what it used to say. So for years the ops-core spec sheet would only list their in house testing certification "Specification FAST SF
PS-1228" which is their in house testing that is supposed to hold up to NIJ but isn't third party certified so you can only trust what ops-core says on that. I see they are now listing the NIJ IIIA standard on their spec sheet but they don't clarify if they actually got it certified or just claiming it meets those standards like some body armor manufacturers do as well. Team Wendy actually list the certification for the NIJ standard so you know it was actually third party tested. Ops-core must have very recently changed the spec sheet on the SF because I just had this conversation a few months back and it still only listed their in house standard. I would be super curious to find out if they actually certified now.
at the very bottom the spec sheet it list "REV.20220601" so they just pushed that revision out but I still think it's misleading if they haven't actually certified.
the XR and RF1 are actually rated to the NIJ rifle standard also.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo yea I know those new lids are rifle rated but I'm still dubious if ops core got their SF certified. I'm going to shoot them an email.
1nd!
Hey, would you guys ever do a comparison between a name brand bump helmet and a name brand “airsoft” helmet? Other than the padding, I don’t see a big difference in construction at all, but what the hell do I know. 🤷🏻♂️😂
ugh gladly.....I have an emerson. It's embarrassingly bad. But was also 60 bucks.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo Lol, thanks. I’ve heard the FMA EXF helmet is actually pretty good. They all seem to have similar construction of foam and abs plastic. I know the padding and straps are the main difference, but those can be upgraded. Not trying to be a cheap ass, just curious. 😂✌🏼
Sk8 helmet then at this point
P… racticality?
Oohhhhhh P...erfect!
@@ThinLineDefenseCo heheheh… P… leasure 😌
what is this chest rig?
Way over priced! Plain and simple. I and my other senior NCO's turned them down as we feel the MICH is a better helmet. No protection around the side, (ears) against a bullet on the Ops Core. I'll take a MICH all day over there price!
wut lol
"Phunctionality"
2st
Slops core
SwingMong223
I stopped watching when I saw it was $1800....😉
lol we can do the budget gear next series if that would be cool to see the differences. I think a best bang for you buck would be awesome too.
@@ThinLineDefenseCo im all for budget/best bang for buck
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- Jason