Alright, I'll bite. The hadron distribution does not affect the nagual, as it is a revolver. Meaning it ONLY gets the 15% and cannot be sped up by adding extra weapons. JB said it made no sense since the reload didnt change when adding the king. But the 40% is unavailable to revolvers, so it makes perfect sense. Might as well use an omnibox, you get the same reload. Dont come at me just because your youtuber made a mistake.
@@felix5728 Thanks for a lengthy explanation, I understand why it's faster now. However, it doesn't explain why the weapon has 3,24 seconds of reload with the Hadron when the base reload is 5 seconds. Taking away 15% from the base reload should sum up to 4,25 seconds with the Hadron.
I could use the gun to reasonably recreate the ARES gun used by the HIMAG and RDF/LT. It was supposed to have burst fire in order to weaken tank armor by striking the same or close to the same point. It didn't stay on target, but it was surprisingly good as an anti-aircraft gun. Unfortunately the program was cancelled because the Army wanted the Armored Gun System to use a 105mm gun, in order to keep supply lines as simple as possible.
Love the video JB!!!🎉🎉 I saw these today in the weapons tab and immediately upgraded my medians to the nagual.... sooooo satisfying. I cant wait to see you run 3 on hover or legs!! Keep up the good work!! You rock JB🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
JB read the perks of the stuff you analyze. HADRON DOESNT WORK WITH REVOLVERS. You did the same mistake when showcasing Athenas. If you want fast reload use echo. That one does work with revolvers.
I understand the perk of the Haddon but why was it still the same as with the ka2 flywheel? Should have been faster than the hadron king right? The flywheel works with revolvers so it should have been faster.....
the hadron cabin state's it wont work with revolvers in the perk "EXCEPT REVOLVERS" so that is probably just the reload from the reload module... it makes sense if you read the stats XD
Ill definitely get the pack, probably just the cheapest one. I love medians, they aren't even close to op though. These things definitely don't seem op. I might run a Deadman with reload module, and focus on dps over the cabin perk
@@Lufanos I have Deadman, Harpy, Omni, and the cabin in the pack. I actually bought 2 packs, and fuzed everything since they were all discounted. I spend too much on this game,and still have to grind my ass off. I actually like the cabin that came with the cannons. The option to reload while popping in cover, and pop out with 20% more damage actually works well. It's fast on hovers too. I'll try with others too, but having faster reload and more damage is actually pretty nice. I wish the skill based weapons got more spotlight. Too many brain dead play styles are way too effective
This gun kinda Fits the Lasher Tank from Yuri's Revenge, Why not go have a Harvester, Single Barrel Nagual Light Tracked Tank? With a Hadron, and perhaps some other stuff to improve it?
Peasant huh. I buy the peasant packs instead of the ridiculously overpriced packs because besides the cab and weapon, EVERY other part is trash parts that I would just have to sell. I might by the middle pack as well to fuze the cabs... but not always.
I just royaly messed up...I went to offer 18.20 for a decor item and forget a decimal. WHY doesn't crossout just sell you the item at the lowest asking price (127.46 in this case) instead of detucting the full amount? Anyone experience this or have a way to reverse it? Crossouts grind is ridiculously long but I have been playing and buying content for 3+ years. Anyone know some development to change this?
He didn't test it. He used three revolvers, not cannons, and the hadron does not affect revolvers. I have tried it though. Using a hadron with 3 cannons is the same as using an omnibox on reload mode. You don't have enough extra energy to throw on a fast reloading weapon (unless they are three avengers), and since all your weapons are the same, you simply get a 15% reload.
The nagual/hadron reload makes perfect sense. The hadron clearly states that it does not affect revolvers.
good catch smartypants. except why is it faster than the base reload in the first place regardless if king is equipped or not?
Alright, I'll bite.
The hadron distribution does not affect the nagual, as it is a revolver. Meaning it ONLY gets the 15% and cannot be sped up by adding extra weapons. JB said it made no sense since the reload didnt change when adding the king. But the 40% is unavailable to revolvers, so it makes perfect sense. Might as well use an omnibox, you get the same reload.
Dont come at me just because your youtuber made a mistake.
@@felix5728 I think people forget about Hadron's +15% due to the immense uniqueness of the rest of its perk
@@felix5728 Thanks for a lengthy explanation, I understand why it's faster now. However, it doesn't explain why the weapon has 3,24 seconds of reload with the Hadron when the base reload is 5 seconds. Taking away 15% from the base reload should sum up to 4,25 seconds with the Hadron.
@@felix5728good job smarty pants
The new revolver works pretty well with bigrams, since the perk of bigrams speeds up the convergent of the aiming reticle.
I could use the gun to reasonably recreate the ARES gun used by the HIMAG and RDF/LT. It was supposed to have burst fire in order to weaken tank armor by striking the same or close to the same point. It didn't stay on target, but it was surprisingly good as an anti-aircraft gun. Unfortunately the program was cancelled because the Army wanted the Armored Gun System to use a 105mm gun, in order to keep supply lines as simple as possible.
I'm sure you have figures this out already the hadron cabin does not work the same with revolvers
Love the video JB!!!🎉🎉 I saw these today in the weapons tab and immediately upgraded my medians to the nagual.... sooooo satisfying. I cant wait to see you run 3 on hover or legs!! Keep up the good work!! You rock JB🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Cant wait to see what builds you gonna showcase in the next episode JB!!...amazing vid as allways!!....thanks for sharing and keep it up!
Read hadrons perk bro it doesn't effect revolvers (except for Athena I believe)
JB read the perks of the stuff you analyze. HADRON DOESNT WORK WITH REVOLVERS. You did the same mistake when showcasing Athenas.
If you want fast reload use echo. That one does work with revolvers.
I understand the perk of the Haddon but why was it still the same as with the ka2 flywheel? Should have been faster than the hadron king right? The flywheel works with revolvers so it should have been faster.....
Hadron works with Athena afaik
DISREGARD. I didn't see that he had the flywheel with the king.
Hadron does work with Athena. I've just put a build "HadronAthenaTest" with riftable King on exhi. Test it yourself.
Oops, I didn't see that you also already specified that the Hadron doesn't work with revolvers.. but you are correct. Kinda funny tho.
the hadron cabin state's it wont work with revolvers in the perk "EXCEPT REVOLVERS" so that is probably just the reload from the reload module... it makes sense if you read the stats XD
Ill definitely get the pack, probably just the cheapest one. I love medians, they aren't even close to op though. These things definitely don't seem op. I might run a Deadman with reload module, and focus on dps over the cabin perk
Deadman is probably the best option for reload speed, you could also try Catalina/Harpy.
@@Lufanos I have Deadman, Harpy, Omni, and the cabin in the pack. I actually bought 2 packs, and fuzed everything since they were all discounted. I spend too much on this game,and still have to grind my ass off.
I actually like the cabin that came with the cannons. The option to reload while popping in cover, and pop out with 20% more damage actually works well. It's fast on hovers too. I'll try with others too, but having faster reload and more damage is actually pretty nice. I wish the skill based weapons got more spotlight. Too many brain dead play styles are way too effective
@@B-U-T-C-H-E-R "I spend too much on this game and still have to grind my ass off" I felt that bro 😂
With firing the weapon we can reload as well it increases the reload for the canon
Can u make athena hover with New cabin and hammerfall hover vid pls
Alrighty, you sold me. I'm in!
This gun kinda Fits the Lasher Tank from Yuri's Revenge, Why not go have a Harvester, Single Barrel Nagual Light Tracked Tank? With a Hadron, and perhaps some other stuff to improve it?
Why would you ever put a melee weapon on a sniper build?
I have seen some builds with melee weapons, some sniper builds, But I plan on making a Skirmisher build.@@Lufanos
OK as always love the content, much love. I am just still a bit confused as to the best cab to use and ideally all the rest to max the Nagual out.
Personally for the nagual i would use the omnibox or the deadman
4:17 Could be a bug where the intraclip reload counts as a reload for the hadron.
very nice. Tanks JB!
sure if you have any request
don't know. But i love ur personallity and the kind of Work.@@JBRider
Haha great video buddy, they do look fun, I'm not sure about the cabin though feels like a meh cabin keep it up bro
soo what would be the optimized way to play these? 3of em or 2 of em ?
these should most definitely be fired seperately, assign difderent groups and get heavier vehicle. can wait to see optimized build
Seen these on hovers in 9k ps and they slap my astraeus build around if they get close enough.
Can you make a Video about leviathan and if you do how effectivly build one even with beginner/intermidiate parts
Been loving these so far. They’re what I always wanted medians to be. They’re super niche, most people will hate them, and it’s perfect.
I have two with a single fused median on my hadron helicopter. Decent.
Doesn't the hadron specifically say it doesn't work with revolvers? I could be wrong.
Also @5:55 they let you map the middle mouse button now, or did that just replace one of the other key mappings?
Peasant huh. I buy the peasant packs instead of the ridiculously overpriced packs because besides the cab and weapon, EVERY other part is trash parts that I would just have to sell. I might by the middle pack as well to fuze the cabs... but not always.
I'm loving the pairing of Nagual and Manitui. They make stripping weapons at range such a breeze!
I just royaly messed up...I went to offer 18.20 for a decor item and forget a decimal. WHY doesn't crossout just sell you the item at the lowest asking price (127.46 in this case) instead of detucting the full amount? Anyone experience this or have a way to reverse it? Crossouts grind is ridiculously long but I have been playing and buying content for 3+ years. Anyone know some development to change this?
Does reload perk still work if all chambers are full?
Reload perk works with full chambers. Usually the first thing I do when I load into a match
The new revolver is neat.
love the vid🤘🤘❤❤
test out the horn
under sling them.
The new gun is a revolver, and the hadron perk doesn’t work it’s perk with the revolvers
i dont like how they changed the emily sound. it used to have a very spacific poo poo poo noise
harons perk doesn't benefit revolvers
Where is the video with avalanche and helicopter :(
(But I think you’ll get wrecked by missles and Caucasus 🙄
Hi
My dumbass thought those were rapiers
There is better Truck reload
This new weapon is disgusting
I was wondering what a hadron flywheel reload module with three cannons would be like. so thanks for testing that so we dont have to my friend
He didn't test it. He used three revolvers, not cannons, and the hadron does not affect revolvers.
I have tried it though. Using a hadron with 3 cannons is the same as using an omnibox on reload mode. You don't have enough extra energy to throw on a fast reloading weapon (unless they are three avengers), and since all your weapons are the same, you simply get a 15% reload.
@@felix5728what about judges with an executioner?
I wish it wasnt a cannon.