Logic 101 (#27): Modus Ponens

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025

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  • @lucascorea3215
    @lucascorea3215 7 лет назад +10

    I love you William this saved my live.

  • @erikabenavidez981
    @erikabenavidez981 2 года назад +2

    2:32 hearing at this while Flowers sounds in the background 😆😂

  • @JMcomments
    @JMcomments 9 лет назад +15

    excellent video! better than uni!

  • @NickKizirnis
    @NickKizirnis 3 года назад +1

    Could you recommend any good books (that aren't massive textbooks) for learning about the topics you cover here? Thank you!

  • @boluwatifeogunnowo5841
    @boluwatifeogunnowo5841 Год назад +1

    Thank you, this is very understandable 👍💯

  • @smoothoperator8414
    @smoothoperator8414 4 года назад +2

    Nice vid, better than my prof

    • @PunmasterSTP
      @PunmasterSTP 3 года назад +1

      How did the rest of your class go?

  • @DrStrangeLove2050
    @DrStrangeLove2050 11 лет назад +7

    how did you fill last three rows of the truth table?? (counting from top) 0:05:50

    • @ChristopherKim
      @ChristopherKim 10 лет назад +3

      Take a look at the circle diagram we saw at 4:05. For P->Q to be true, P has to be inside Q.
      For the second row of the truth table, It says a dot is inside P but not inside Q, which cannot be possible because P is supposed to be inside Q. Therefore P->Q is false.
      For the third row, it says a dot is not inside P but inside Q, which can be possible because the Q circle is bigger than P so a dot can be outside P but inside Q. Therefore P->Q is true.
      For the fourth row, it says a dot is not inside P nor Q, so the dot is irrelevant to
      P->Q, therefore P->Q can be true.

    • @missionpupa
      @missionpupa 7 лет назад +1

      I will give you a short intuitive explanation. The expression p->q simply affirms q. So in the table, whenever q is true (T) then the expression p->q will be true. And the only other time it can be true is when p and q are both false (F) since we are simply affirming something that we know is false.

  • @michaeltebele3305
    @michaeltebele3305 7 лет назад +4

    Bon Iver - 00000 Million
    "In oh, the old modus:
    Out to be leading live
    Said comes the old ponens
    Demit to strive"

  • @ryank3882
    @ryank3882 7 лет назад +2

    Struggling with this unit in math, but now I understand. Thanks.

    • @PunmasterSTP
      @PunmasterSTP 3 года назад +1

      How did the rest of your math class go?

  • @parizer1983
    @parizer1983 9 лет назад +2

    ((P->Q)^P)->Q is the "extended" form of Modus Ponens, according to Wikipedia and other resources. Can you explain it in this form?

    • @Gametheory101
      @Gametheory101  9 лет назад +5

      +Marko Savic It's exactly the same thing. Remember that the proofs are basically conditional proofs (well, actually, you will get to that later) where we assume that the premises are true and see what follows as well. Put differently, IF premises THEN conclusion.
      So you have P arrow Q and P as premises ((P arrow Q) ^ P) and have Q as a conclusion. Or ((P arrow Q)^P) arrow Q. Clear?

    • @parizer1983
      @parizer1983 9 лет назад

      +William Spaniel Yes, thanks.

  • @KaiserSakhi-1
    @KaiserSakhi-1 3 года назад +1

    thank you so much for this!

  • @sundusyawar569
    @sundusyawar569 7 лет назад

    @William Would this be correct?
    p-->q
    q
    ---------
    p
    or does it have to be in the standard form? I did the truth table for my example it was true twice

    • @danielflores407
      @danielflores407 6 лет назад

      The goal of the use of Modus Ponens is to affirm something, being 'q' true doesn't implies that p will be true.

    • @lea1822
      @lea1822 5 лет назад +1

      That would be the formal fallacy known as affirming the consequent. See video 48 of this series.

  • @ledamariefrancisco4372
    @ledamariefrancisco4372 2 года назад

    With modus ponens, can i interchange premise 1 and premise 2? Like Premise 1: I am Miley Cyrus. Premise 2: If I am Miley Cyrus, then I am crazy. thanks

  • @zeeshanahmadkhalil8920
    @zeeshanahmadkhalil8920 8 лет назад +2

    that was very helpful thanks

  • @LucretiusDraco
    @LucretiusDraco 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks this is helpful

  • @rockychannel3169
    @rockychannel3169 2 года назад

    Thank you 😌

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP 3 года назад

    Man, you know you're talking about something important when Rihanna made a whole song about it...
    Ponen de replay 😎

  • @Woshii04
    @Woshii04 5 лет назад

    What if the problem is
    If p then not q
    not p
    therefore q?

    • @punkrider8758
      @punkrider8758 3 года назад

      Denying the antecedent logical fallacy

  • @DrStrangeLove2050
    @DrStrangeLove2050 11 лет назад +1

    0:05:50 Why can't we have F-F-F or T-F-T on last three rows???

    • @ChristopherKim
      @ChristopherKim 10 лет назад

      The first two columns are the premises which we are using to prove that the third column, the conclusion, is true.
      -F and -T is a separate premise to F and T, so -F and -T should be a separate premise column. We didn't add that column because the conclusion does not contain -F or -T therefore we have no need to add it in as a column.

    • @PunmasterSTP
      @PunmasterSTP 3 года назад

      @@ChristopherKim I think that is close! I think in this case, the first two columns (P and P => Q) are the premises, and then Q is the conclusion. I am guessing that William wrote the table that way so that the simple sentences P and Q would be in the leftmost columns.

  • @KittyBoyPurr
    @KittyBoyPurr 2 года назад

    1. P=>Q
    2. P
    therefore, Q

  • @keaco73
    @keaco73 9 лет назад

    According to this rule, would these premises mean the same?
    I do not believe X exists.
    and
    I believe X does not exist.
    Thank u!

    • @missionpupa
      @missionpupa 7 лет назад

      First of all, saying I do not believe x exists is not really an "if then" statement. So logical notation would just be ~b (not believe in x). Saying "you believe/not believe" simply means "it is the case/not the case" So, ~b ~b Is equivalent. For future reference, it's somewhat ambiguous to use the word "believe" especially when we're dealing with logic, because logic doesn't measure opinion just true and false.

  • @Wondermass
    @Wondermass 7 лет назад

    Solving logic puzzles with modus ponens and modus tollens: ruclips.net/video/DKioUaN3be4/видео.html

  • @dosto_viski8292
    @dosto_viski8292 Год назад

    What about
    1. If im a pen, i am crazy
    2. Im not a pen
    ... i am not crazy
    This sounds invalid but i couldnt figure out how

  • @GeorgeLeroux
    @GeorgeLeroux 2 года назад

    1. if I think, I am
    2. I think
    ... I am

  • @malihaahmed6208
    @malihaahmed6208 Год назад

    dissing poor miley cyrus