Downfall/Der Untergang. - Deleted Scene. - Krebs negotiates with Soviets. (Original translations.)
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2016
- General Krebs of the withering Wehrmacht tries a last ditch attempt at negotiating with Soviet general Chuikov.
One of my favorite scenes in cinema, combining elements of humor, consequence and pragmatism into one, well thought out entity. A real shame it wasn't included in the final cut.
Unfortunately, 12 year olds armed with editing software have turned this brilliant scene (as much as the entire movie Downfall) into their nonsensically translated meme abominations. I figured there might be people who genuinely want to know what is happening here instead of trying to not die from cringe.
Feel free to leave a comment!
-All rights go to Constantin Film Produktion, I am not monetizing this video and am therefore not copyright infringing. This video is purely for educational purposes.- 
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"We were aware of that." LOL.
So typically Russian.
fuck you rick
TheWhiteNigga
If you search the Wikipedia, even the real Chuikov lied about knowing these facts. In reality he wasnt even aware of an underground bunker complex, and he lied that he knew about him. I wouldnt like that when somebody says "typical Russian", but Chuikov lied as shown in the movie in real life too.
Who lost the Cold War?
ANTIC FEGELEIN
MUST BE THAT STUPID NOT TO GET IT
MrDICKHEAD28
Wtf do you mean by that?
-Hitler committed suicide.
-We were aware of that.
-Seems unlikely. Actually he is in Argentina.
-We were also aware of that.
@@takerdust Stalin: *we were aware of that*
@And The Salt Spreads Argentina, and some other south american countries, is where some high-rank Nazis actually fled to. Some of them were captured and killed by the Mossad (Israeli Secet Service) but some were never found.
Also they burned Hitlers body immediately after his death and nobody could tell if the burned remains is actually Hitler. Dont know if any of this realy happend or not, it is just why the modern myth of Hitler living in Argentina was created.
@And The Salt Spreads it's because many senior German officers guilty of war crimes (mainly former SS and police) fled to Argentina in the South America after the war, they knew that they would get a life sentence in prison if not executed for their war crimes if they were caught.
Argentina was a pro Axis nation and was sympathetic towards the Nazi's cause, but never joined the war. As a result they allowed these former high ranking German officials, generals and officers to take refuge in the country. Many of them were never caught, either because no one cared anymore or that they were hard to find. After all why would you spend all your effort trying to find some war criminal that may or may not live in Argentina when your own country is devastated and needs rebuilding?
@@charles_0017 We were aware of that.
@@charles_0017 and Argentina even declared war in them during the finals month of war.......
Eisenhower: We have the atom bomb
Stalin: We were aware of that
Actually Joseph Stalin knew well about the A-bomb plan via Beria's spy network. But he remained silent and pretended to be ignorant to keep the network safe when Harry Truman boasted about his new special bomb in Potsdam.
But in this case its true.
Stalin was Stalling...
@@anonanonym9872
That is a misunderstanding. The atomic bomb was the task of the GRU, specifically the Soviet residence in Ottawa.
The atomic bomb was of military interest and it was the military intelligence responsible for investigating it.
The Manhattan project was discovered, at least its objective and main staff, in 42.
The greatest progress in stealing American atomic technology was made after the war; the heads of the GRU who did it were Fyodor Kuznetsov and Nikolai Trusov.
PS: The GRU was much more discreet than the Cheka.
*That seems very unlikely.*
The Germans politely offering conditional surrender "White peace" at this point are like the Black Knight in Monty Python. No arms and no legs, unable to fight, "Alright, we'll call it a draw"
Hahahaha, that's it !
Jc40k the Germans would have had better odds at conditional surrender if Hitler had the decency to die when beating the Germans in battle hadn't yet become a mere mop up operation. The incentive to agree to conditions has to be a strong one. like not spending another year of blood and treasure trying to completely destroy the German armies.
No that would be Uncle Sam. The Tommy still cant get over losing their Empire.
Internetbutthurt No. Do you actually know any of us?
Yes i do. Just have a look at the behaviour and statements of the UK govt, especially of late; they are petty and behave like they are important on the world stage. They aren't. Its only because they suck up to the US even more than Australia that they are given any air-time.
Krebs: “The subtitle writer mistakenly wrote “Crimea” instead of “Kremlin””
Chuikov: “We were aware of that”.
The english translation of Russian speech is not even close.
Chuikov: "Don't worry we will speak with the Germans about Crimea in the future again...."
@@ivanmonahhov2314 we were aware of that
😂
I was not aware of that, but I was wondering why the German attache would be in the Crimea
I can't imagine having the grim task of negotiating a surrender to the nation you invaded.
Both embarrassing and terrifying.
R not a great deal of negotiating to be done one would imagine
Hitler couldn't face it like a man, he disappeared. You saw what happened to Mussolini.
Vontaze Burfict he would’ve been paraded through the cities of Russia as a war trophy . Then shoot him in the Siberian wilderness
Repeating the same thing for the millionth time....The Soviets were toast without other allied support.They were brave no doubt but not enough to defeat Germany alone.
BTW, the guy who was shoved into that closet was Matvei Isaakovich Blanter. He wrote Katyusha, basically THE Russian war song.
These three Russian officers will have forgotten him in the closet when they leave the room after the meeting - I guess he stayed there for several hours crying Help, Get me out!. lol!.
Xuan Vinh To So a jew wrote the russian ultimate war song...
David Black
No, the guy in the closet fainted during the negotiation, due to lack of air, and the Germans were astonished.
Katyusha is the song used at the end.
Artificial Intelligence, Really? I read that everyone in the room ignored it as if nothing happened lol
As a Russian, I'm very impressed how good the German actor speaks Russian. Usually in Hollywood movies, when actors speak Russian it's so bad you can't even understand them. But here he speaks clear and good Russian with slight German accent. Bravo.
The actor Rolf Kanies is a multilingualist who speaks Italian, French and Russian in addition to German.
Since the producers of Downfall wanted to portray the events as accurately as possible, they had to have the actor playing General Hans Krebs speak good Russian to do justice to the role. Krebs could speak fluent Russian.
@@ruhri0411 the real Krebs speaks russian?? impressive.
@@oscaralegre3683 Hans Krebs worked as an attache in the German embassy in Moscow in the late 1930s before the Germans attacked the Soviets. He spoke fluent Russian and knew a lot about them.
Немцем русский язык не кажется слишком сложным и другим и немцев такой же грубый язык как у нас
@@2.3.79 Mann, Mannes, Manne, Männer, Männern - 5 форм существительного "Mann", две из которых редко используются
Мужик, мужика, мужику, мужиком, мужике, мужики, мужиков, мужикам, мужиками, мужиках - 10 форм слова "мужик", все из которых одинаково часто используются.
Так что да, русский язык грамматически сложнее немецкого, хотя у немецкого местами есть свои приколы, где он сложнее русского
Damn Russian with a German accent sounds scary. Krebs’ actor is so good in this.
He talk without german accent. Its great talking.
I wonder if he is a native of a former Easternblock nation
@@bollomcbollo6260 thanks man, he is a truly great actor
No idea what you have instead of your ears, but yes, he's got an accent, a quite noticeable one
Без понятия, чем ты слушал, но акцент у него есть, и довольно заметный
It would be nice if my fish replace Steiner
Besides he is an former bait
“In 60 years they gonna make a movie about us”
Zhukov: “we were aware of that”
chuikov*
@@matei8master8 we were aware of that too!
@@sockaccount8116
I'd be worried if you WEREN'T aware of your own general's name =))
This is Chuikov
''In 60 years you will have Russians in Moscow, Volgograd (modern Stalingrad) and St Petersburg thinkin that getting a Nazi SS tatoo is fashionable''
Jouikov: ''We were aware of that''
"Comrade Dyatlov, the reactor has exploded and is leaking radiation!"
"We were aware of that."
As in Dyatlov pass? Terrifying way to die
"Not great, not terrible"
Chernobyl : Conquered / occupied by = Radiation
"It's not 3 Roentgen, it's 15000."
"We were aware of that."
Later comrade Dyatlov claimed he was in toilet and did not remember a thing
"Would you have signed this treaty under similar circumstances"
I find this to be a really powerful statement as everyone knew damn well the germans would've been merciless to them had they won the war.
Cripto136 At least Krebs was honest with his answer.
Germany would have demanded way more land from russia, france, belgium and luxembourg than they lost after versailles.
+Clay Burkhardt the Germans where way worse, you think they didn't rape en masse in Russia aswell? The difference it wasnt punishable to rape a Russian/slavic woman if you where a German soldier. On the other hand a lot of Russian soldiers got prosecuted by the Soviet government.
+Clay Burkhardt The wiki article clearly state that Soviet soldiers caught raping civilians were usually punished. While saying that rapes where allowed within the wehrmacht. You said "Germans were not allowed to have sex with non Aryan peoples", which I have documented is clearly false. Which incidentally also shows the laughable irony of you accusing me of lies. Only one case of rape was ever (mildly) punished during the entire war on the German side.
Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and realize the Germans where no saints. Ever heard of Generalplan Ost? They declared war on the USSR with the explicit goal of conquest, mass genocide and extermination of the majority of civilian population. I haven't claimed the Russians didn't commit mass rape, but out of the two evils there is objectively one less evil here.
And your apologia towards the nazi fuckwitts that started this war with statements that factually doesn't match up with history (as I have documented) makes it very easy to confuse you with the rest of the rabble (holocaust deniers, wehraboos that wank over everything ww2 german related etc).
Also I'll include some more passages from the article:
-In the Soviet Union women were kidnapped by German forces for prostitution; one report by the International Military Tribunal stated that "in the city of Smolensk the German Command opened a brothel for officers in one of the hotels into which hundreds of women and girls were driven; they were mercilessly dragged down the street by their arms and hair."
-Other sources estimate that rapes of Soviet women by the Wehrmacht range up to 10,000,000 incidents, with between 750,000 and 1,000,000 children being born as a result
And here you are, trying to paint a picture as if the Soviets where the only one carrying out rapes. Again. Who's spreading bullshit and lies?
Powerful line indeed. It just reveals the complete brutality that was the Eastern Front; no mercy, no forgiveness, no hesitation, it was a kill-or-be-killed war.
i love the face when they told hitler have suicide
they are just like "...what?"
... uhh.. I knew that.
Emilio Garcia Carrillo that's the face you pull when you are aware of that
he didnt have suicide, he deaded himself.
Isn't it highly strange that we have no remnants of Hitler??
@@idreeskhan8885 We do... Just very little cause the germans then the soviets burned everything
I love how Chuikov's drinking-buddies-turned-fake-general-staff just nervously nod along whenever Chuikov sorta-kinda-subtly hints that they should do so. It makes me feel like this is a regular occurrence.
They were chilling out, having a nice dinner and looking at paintings, basically killing time until Berlin and the whole Reich would collapse. An event they knew was to happen in a matter of days. The Soviets exerted themselves in their advance to such a point that they reached the Reichstag 2 days before what it was planned.
I love the "here already?" bit. They look sorta bothered they have to interrupt their dinner.
_jeff _ it seems like they are just normal red army commanders of little to no rank.
They're journalists or something, Chuikov is reviewing their propaganda art.
@@gargravarr2 I've read somewhere that one of the fake generals is supposed to be Konstantin Simonov, who was a very famous Russian (Soviet) poet at the time. Simonov was indeed present at the battle of Berlin (as a war correspondent). On the other hand, neither of the two actors looks any similar to real-life Simonov, so I'm not sure.
As he says, most of his generals (and officers) are out at the front or otherwise preoccupied. These dudes were - I think - journalists actually.
Here's a fun fact: the guy who was shoved into the closet was Russian composer Matvey Blanter, who wrote the song Katyusha, which plays at the end of this video. Also, he passed out and fell out of the closet just as the German delegation was about to leave.
They already left the room when he fell
right out of some comedy
Why did they put him in the closet?
@@BigguBosu117 He was dressed as a civilian, which was not suitable for such sort of negotiations
@@khata_yaburyana Thank you for clarifying this
if he had his fish he would have a better deal
He had to give the guards his fish before he walked in the room.
Negofishation
He was unfähig to do that
🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟🐟
What makes that gag funny is that Krebs means crab in German.
This has to be one of the most brilliant movies I've ever seen
I love this movie more than Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit films! It's always playing in my house. Yep, us millennials are kinda weird.(>o
@@_________________7059 Dude wtf
@@_________________7059 dude its a tragic anti war film not a family movie you let running on repeat
I agree
@@_________________7059 I love this movie as well, but not as much as star wars lol
guard: "the german delegation is here"
chuikov: "anyone i know?"
guard: "one of them looks like krebs"
chuikov: "hide the maps, i don't want him spending ten hours pointing on it, give us five minutes, distract him with some fish in the meantime."
nice XD
Well said !
fish
Feesh
Fiesch. fiesch. Fiesch. Fiesch. Fiesch. Fiesch. Fiesch. Fiesch. Hahahahaha!!
General Chuikov. 3 years ago he was in a bunker in Stalingrad, 50 meters from the frontline, relentlessly shelled and commanding the remnants of his 62nd Army to make a desperate stand to hold the city.
Now he's in Berlin.
now imagine that you are about to win the war against the people who made your people suffer so much and they offer you white peace
How the tables turn.
why'd they delete this scene, It was as gold as the movie
Probably deviates from the plot too much. The fact that krebs was able to travel to the Kremlin makes it seem less isolated, less like the Nazis were trapped and endangered
but the scene is not on the Kremlin, its the Soviet High Command HQ in Berlin it looks like
Yes, its in Berlin
boberson33 lol did you even watch the movie? krebs actually walked to soviet HQ in berlin with his staff
This scene is not deleted.
For anyone who might not know, General Vasily Chuikov was the commander of the 62nd Army and the man who held Stalingrad from the Germans in 1942. His army was renamed as the 8th Guards Army and spent the rest of the war sweeping through Poland where he liberated the Majdanek concentration camp and was later given the task of being the first military force to assault Berlin in 1945.
I bring this up because that background lends even more weight to his refusal to accept nothing less than Germany's unconditional surrender.
And the German knows that he can't accept to drop all defenses because the Red Army would enter unchecked and unrestricted...
And without the West-Allies there, who knows what they'll do.
After going through Majdanek, which has the last functioning gas chamber on site, I'm not sure that the Soviets wanted the Germans to surrender.
They probably had extermination on their minds.
"If it surrenders put it to work. If it fights, kill it off".
He couldn't accept anything even if he wanted to, in the whole negotiations process Chuikov was on the telephone with Moscow. His staff, and even some writers were present as well
“Liberated”? It is re-conquered
@ bruh, cringe. It was a concentration camp.
the German speaks better Russian than I've ever heard from a non-native speaker. The Russians in the scene are all native speakers too. great authenticity
At 1:31, Krebs realizes they are full of shit, but there is nothing he can do about it. He has to start the negotiating. This movie is incredibly fascinating. Bruno Ganz is nails.
it was so obvious they were full of shit hahaha how the hell they knew hitler commited suicide??
@@oscaralegre3683 supposedly that meeting actually happened.
@@oscaralegre3683 it was not a move to boast about soviet spying or anything like that.
Chuikov knew Krebs, an experienced diplomat, would begin negotiations with something so spectacular that would lower his guard, and have a better chance at having favorable terms, thus Chuikov pulled that lie off as a counter, keeping Krebs at bay.
The purpose of such lie was to state that they would not be moved or manipulated.
@@coffeemaiden7915 Clever, but I doubt Krebs was convinced by that.
@@atrocital the plan was not to convince Krebs, but to make him very clear that he had no chance at shocking or persuading his way to better surrender terms.
I've met Rolf Kanies (the actor who plays Krebs) and in real life he is the nicest, most fun-loving guy, also somewhat of a gymnast.
Did you ask about the fish
At last! I have found the original!
+dimitry246 Finally somebody uploaded the original. I'm sick of those parodies.
The parodies are amazing, but it is also good to have the original.
Why?? They are fucking amazing
+DangehZoneD but in the film, they replcaed Krebs with Himmler or other guy?
0:58 I really like the way he walks in and snaps his head. Great acting!
Old Prussian. Ramrod for a spine, and total control even in the face of the enemy.
That's salute.without their cap.thats how they salute each other.
Pruss Salute without cap
ya i was wondering didnt anyone see that
I mean they way they walked i thought they were gonna ask soviets to surrender
That’s the short for sup
The way he delivers his line at 2:20 is just extraordinary. It's so chilling
YEAH man some one need to talk about that delivery
the reason why i came to watch this again @@youthgamngpatnerz3300
Krebs made a point of walking in the room smartly and confidently, despite having absolutely nothing to negotiate with. Chuikov knew the game was about up for the Germans. If Chuikov had offered any sort of accommodation, Stalin wouldn't have taken too kindly to the gesture.
Then you should check this out, Krebs though it wasn't treated well here:
ruclips.net/video/aGq-a6cyix4/видео.html
This is Hitler's top general signing the surrender document here, for this he was rewarded with a delicious multi-course meal. He was later transferred to the war crimes tribunal at Nuremberg, sentenced to death and hanged.
Yeah there was no way that decision war Chuikov's to make regardless, but his words were non the less true; "If you were in our position, would you accept these terms?".
@@TheArrowedKnee Agreed. Generals on either side of this battle had just as much to fear from their high command as they did from the enemy.
@@bobbyricigliano2799 It was also because at Potsdam, the allies have said they will accept nothing less then unconditional surrender. Otherwise, General Chuikov could not accept anything type of surrender other then unconditional as dictated by the Allies particularly Stalin.
There is a little mistake in subs: Krebs said "We met several times in the Kremlin, ..."(not "in the Crimea")
DangehZoneD lol basically "we were aware of that."
Denis Woytow Good catch. Because right after that he mentioned "Embassy" which would be in Moscow the capital and not just any other city in the Soviet Union.
David W. Exactly.
@@Cjnw The Kremlin is right next to the Moskva river, he could easily fish from the Bolshoy Moskvoretsky bridge
Also, "whife".
Me: A coronavirus pandemic will happen in 2020
Chuikov: We were aware of that
Zukhov
@@agshinaliyev3502 No im fairly certain this was Chuikov, Zhukov was not the commanding general of the Berlin offensive, but the marshal of the entire Soviet army. He wasnt in the Berlin HQ at the time
Xi Jinping: We were aware of that.
@@Killerbee4712 That is indeed Chuikov. And judging by the three stars on his shoulder boards, he was a Colonel-General at the time.
1:29 Mark Zuckerberg on the left
Zuck is an immortal reptilian and conspires with Russia confirmed
LMFAO
This scene actually happened. The Russian general is Chuikov commander of the 8th Tank Guards Army under Marshal Zhukov and was the spearhead of the Russian forces attacking Berlin. Chuikov had commanded the troops in the savage street battles at Stalingrad. He would go to become a Marshal and commander of the Warsaw Pact forces. Chuikov would also lead the Soviet delegation at President Eisenhower's funeral in 1969.
They even picked an actor who looked a bit like him. The hair is off but the lined face is similar.
My guy, everything in this movie "actually happened". There might be some liberties taken here and there for plot pacing (cause it's a movie after all) but overall it's an extremely accurate depiction of what happened.
You have to admit though, the memes of Downfall are very funny but none of that takes away from this amazing movie.
No, the first few were funny, but then they became annoying... I didn't watch the film again for 10 years
@@KebabMusicLtd sounds like a personal problem.
@@KebabMusicLtd I have to say nowadays I‘m not as big a fan of this film as I used to
Last time I watched the movie i skipped the rage scene
1:01 I can't stop replaying that part when he nods his head
same
me too
Thank you for the shortcut
Krebs lagging
Its an old Prussian salute without helmet
Why does he do that? Is that some sort of salute?
That's some fantastic acting from both actors.
We were aware of that.
@@thedude9024 That seems unlikely.
General Chuikov was a very un-sung hero of Soviet Army. His tactics and leadership at Stalingrad truly remarkable.
Too bad that didn't make the final film. Maybe someday it will be re-released as a director's cut and include more of those scenes. The cast of Downfall had great chemistry.
Odd, I seem to remember this scene was in the version I watched in theatres back when it came out? I don't think it was deleted, but maybe in other screenings it was.
Tyson L There is a 180+ min extended cut out there, just that it's available only in 540P instead of 720P/1080P.
@Rios Salvajes I have the Blu-ray and it's definitely in it.
@@davidw.2791 Yeah, I know. But I think this scene didn't even make the Extended Cut.
@@yannick245 i saw this movie in german tv and this scene is in it
According to "The Last Battle" by Cornelius Ryan, this is more or less exactly how this meeting went down.
Also as noted in some other comments, that artist eventually fainted and fell out of the cabinet as the negotiations were still taking place.
Yes it's true. And quoting ryan, the fainted artist from the closet "astonished the germans"
I wonder if Krebs was thinking like "wait, who's that?"
Yeah don't mind him falling out of the closet. His dead eye level was low so we gave him alcohol
1:01 dat flick to the up tho
Its nice to see the fish pervent actually not telling us over again about his favorite fetish things xDDD.
Denis Skobelev Here is Berlin...
He gets drunk with Burgdorf later while Burggy sings the hit German song of 1945: "Poor Old Man."
But I object to the fish pervert not talking about fish
+Flying Ranced M00n Fish ENOUGH OF YOUR SHINY BALD OBJECTIONS!!!
Clay Pidgeon But I object you for pointing Dolfy's map!
In real life, when Krebs met Chuikov, he tried to get on his good side by saying, "Today is the First of May, a great day for both our nations." Chuikov replied, "It is a great day for US. How it is on your side, it is not so easy to say."
👏👏👏💯💯💯
Love it!
"That seems unlikely"
Krebs roasted the F out of them, even in defeat lmao.
Actually, what he says here translates as "This is incredible".
@@stanislavkogan Yes but "incredible", is certainly in the sense of "not credible", "implausible". What Krebs means is that he doesn't believe them.
soviet general was like "idgaf you gonna surrender either way" German general was like "damn"
@@topgear3128German generals didn't care. He was gonna commit anyway
Probably one of the top 5 war movies ever. So well done. Thankfully, they didn't let Hollywood anywhere near it.
In 60 years, this moment will be immortalized in a film having subtitles that have nothing to do with what we're really talking about.
0:01:10
The mistake in the translation "We met several times in the Crimea".
The properly is - ""We met several times in KREMLIN".
KREBS AND HIS FISH HAVE BETRAYED DOLFY
Andreas Pittas dont forget his maps
fish?
Doctor: "I have bad news, the tests came back positive for prostate cancer."
Chuikov: "I was aware of that."
Штатского звали Матвей Блантер - композитор. Его специально направили в Берлин, чтобы он там набрался впечатлений для написания оперы про штурм Берлина. Эпизод со шкафом был в действительности.
The civilian's name was Matvey Blunter, a composer. He was specially sent to Berlin so that he could gain impressions there to write an opera about the storming of Berlin. The episode with the wardrobe was real.
отвали ты советский
@@spinningwheel3360 Тут надо запятую. После "отвали" или "ты".😂
"General, would you have signed this treaty under similar circumstances?"
*Savage.*
Krebs is badass. So cold and collected in this scene, given the circumstances.
Well, his face when Chuikov says that they have no alternative at this point shows he is actually shitting his pants... (And that show how good the actor is, to convey this emotion, because if I were in Krebs position, I would shit my pants too...)
@@seinine he was actually just exhausted at that point. he actually handled the meeting quite well in real life
I'd call him professional and/or official.
Krebs negotiated like a boss
badass Krebs
Andrea Amoroso Badass zukhov
You mean the fish pervert?
Andrea Amoroso Is it the legendary map pointer?
F I S H
Thats Chuikov.
For a serious film like Downfall, this scene is surprisingly kinda funny.
Especially when the Soviet general basically asked the other 2 officers to look important 😂
Well that's what actually happened
I can totally see why they removed this. Its way too funny to be put in a serious movie like this. The worst part: it seems that's how it actually happened, with the added bonus that the closet guy actually fell to the floor while the germans were still there.
I see what you mean, but if I was zoned in the film while watching it, I don't personally think I would laugh
There are scenes in the film that are even funnier! At one point a man is told over the telephone that he's a traitor who deserves to be executed, and has to come to HQ to be shot at once. He makes it through enemy lines to what is left of his HQ and greeted with "What do you want?!" to which he dryly replies "I've been told to come here" - "What for, dammit?" - "I have to be shot dead!" - "Well do it yourself, we don't have the time!"
That's what I loved about this movie. On both sides it just showed the top brass as people. Not good, not bad, just people.
I know it was controversial to humanize the Nazi Germany high command, but I think it's important to remember that they were all human. Human beings can do horrible things under the right circumstances. A movie that dehumanizes anyone starts to feel like propaganda.
High military command, under all their regalia, are merely politicians' tools.
I would rather say: some better, some worse, some horrible (many Nazis, in particular, are frightening just by how they see the world), but all people.
Zhukov was forced to retire by Soviet Russia, Rommel was killed by Nazi Germany, Eisenhower became president of Constitutional America. Guess which country still exists?
In retrospect, I'm so glad they cut out the first minute of this clip from the movie. The comical scenes of shoving Blanter into the closet and pinning medals on the other low-ranking officers is so jarring with the rest of the tone of the film, which is so serious and unrelenting (and yes, I am aware this incident is based on real life).
Как же хорош актер сыгравший Генерала Чуйкова, просто БРАВО
I'm learning Russian and I periodically rewatch this scene to see how much more I understand lol
Кириллица делает любой язык использующий её сверх гибким и самобытным
They started the war, lost it and still wanted negotiations XDDDD
Nothing to lose and perhaps Krebs hoped unconditional surrender did not mean what it said on the tin.
Can you imagine how excited those two officers were, when the general handed them those medals? "OMG, GENERAL CHUIKOV JUST PUT A MEDAL ON MY CHEST, THIS IS THE MOST GLORIOUS DAY OF MY LIFE"
Half an hour later: "C'mon, now give it back!"
"NOOOO COMRADE CHUIKOV, THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO TREAT A ... *looks at medal* ... 'Hero of Socialist Women's Gymnastics'?"
@@agp11001 xd
@@agp11001
no, actually he gave him an Order of the Red Banner and an Order of the Great Patriotic War. Both pretty prestigious.
@@matei8master8 was a joke
@@bongwatergaming I know.
Must have been so satisfying to sit on the Russian side of that exchange.
"I have come to inform you that the United States will be challenging you to an arms race and missile threats in the future."
Soviets: "We were aware of that."
Oh wait, I meant to act surprised. WOW! That's amazing!
At least they put him in the closet and not in the gulag.
I would love to know what Germany wanted in those negotiations. The Russian pulled a Michael Corleone..."Here is my offer...nothing"
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The Germans had nothing to offer at this stage. Literally. It would be one of two things the Soviets could offer to the Germans "we beat the fuck out of you, bad" or "we beat the fuck out of you so bad, your nation will only be remembered in history books".
No occupation, no war crime trials at least I'm guessing. Nazi state must survive, POW swap, negotiate borders. I wonder if the Germans would have thrown in a bone of some money. I mean that kind of treaty is like "Ok you win, but we remain standing at least."
Threaten to surrender to USA instead is what I'd offer as a German.
Please dont bring the italians into it.
Their contributions in WW2 was absolutely pathetic....
I can't speak for anybody else in this video thread but the guy playing the Russian general is just outstanding.
Even the way he leans back after he tells them this is what you are going to do is telling who the boss in this thing is.
He inhabits that character he doesn't just play him it's almost like you know he's the general.
I couldn't agree more. Great acting, great body language. I also like his expression when he leans back.
He actually says "That's unbelievable." not "That seems unlikely", as in; "Gee, for real?".
Right, but that's the sarcastic implication. The fact that he doesn't outright say that and states something on the lines of "Wow, how shocking." (or literally "That's unbelievable.") makes it even more funny.
Well, "That seems unlikely" is a polite way to say "I don't believe you a single word, liar" :)
@@ProLifeAtheistXX we were aware of that.
“Wow, how about that?”
English subtitles are bad here.
Hell. What can you say. General Krebs sure handled himself well. When the Soviet general said that Berlin must unconditionally surrender and lay down all arms, I'm surprised all hell didn't break loose.
He was hardly in a position to throw a hissy fit.
Translation error. He said Kremlin, not Crimea. Whoever translated this should be put on trial for crimes against humanity
In Soviet Russia, there is no such crime.
But also there is no trial, so it evens out.
@@danthemankhan There is trial. So stay silent.
Lol what did the Nazi think they would agree to terms when the USSR had won like 99% of the war already? 😂
This took place on ground floor schulenburgring 2 in Berlin Tempelhof. This place can still be visited. The last mayor of Berlin was born and raised in that building.
I love how out of context this scene is, man gives badges to his comrades then locks someone in the closet for absolutely no reason
Leverage... the germans had none and the Soviets knew it.
Nice
the expression and nodding of those 2 dudes are priceless
Comrade General‚ the soviet union will collapse in 1991
Chuikov: We were aware of that
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Some of the subtitles are wrong. Krebs actually said: "The new administration has authorized me to begin peace negotiations between our two nations, which have suffered the most casualties in the war." There was nothing about the greater good of both societies.
Thank you for posting this. It has added to my already considerable respect for this great film.
Chuikov laying down the law reminds me of this NKVD leaflet: Soldiers of the so-called Waffen SS Galicia! Killing prisoners of war is a crime. You will be held accountable. Surrender! Or in layman's terms : you done screwed up and run up an almighty bill and now we're here to collect.
0:57 how it feels when you and the boys enter the principal’s office
Ironically, this is exactly what happened and the unfortunate gentleman collapsed and fell out of the closet, stifled by the heat. Though too absurd for inclusion, I suppose but true.
@_jeff _ did a commie bite you, jeff?
Heat? In April?
@@michaelf7093 Yes, locked in a cupboard.
Anyone: [insert line here]
Russia: we were aware of that.
wow, very nice video! I always found the scene in the movie to be too short. Now i have the full picture!
1:55 It's 'our nations that had the biggest losses in this war'
English translation way off
Thank you for this! One of my favorite scenes in the entire movie.
This is such an amazingly coreographed scene. The thing that always strikes me is the calm professionalism that Chuikov is able to muster in the face of such stupendously pathetic attempts to barter a peace deal. It's honestly perplexing the audacity that Krebs walked into that room with such a proposition. The way Krebs immediately subverts responsibility for his audacious proposition upon seeing the disgust upon Chuikovs face and hearing his reply, lamenting that it was merely an order he was given to deliver... The response Chuikov then gives is such a fantastic part of this scene. Basically stating if you're just a little messenger boy, then you should fack off back to your little bunker and tell who ever is in charge what an utterly pathetic idea that is! The idea of a man like Krebs, who's at this point basically 24 hours from ending up swinging from a tree, to try and barter 😅 I do wonder what hilarious conversations ensued once the Germans had left that room! 😂 Both actors who play Krebs and Chuikov fucking nail this scene and I love it!
Those drawings are insanely good
I love how the expressions on both men's faces at the end are basically like "These last few hours are going to suck for all of us."
"They/We won't surrender."
"Damnit."
There was no comparison between what the Russians and what the Germans were feeling. The Russians knew they had won the greatest war in history; the Germans knew had gone from the Master Race to doormats.
It happened to be May Day. According to Chuikov, Krebs said that it was a great day for the German and Russian peoples. Chuikov replied that it was a great day for "us". "How things are for you over there are more difficult to say."
In my opinion, this is the version of American historians of that era.
Although it is quite in his spirit. Chuikov was an extremely outstanding person.
Okay now I understand. I've been learning Russian for a year. And I always knew that the English subtitles in the director's cut didn't match up with what they actually said in Russian. Now I see that what they were actually saying in Russian fit into the deleted scenes
1:24
the reaction from the men on the left
Not sure if someone commented this already but according to the book this film was based on (Inside Hitler's Bunker by Joachim Fest) the guy Chuikov shoved in the closet fell out and just walked out of the room without saying a word. Krebs and Chuikov also did not say anything and continued with the meeting. Too bad they did not include that in the film.
LMAO, although I think if they included that particular moment the scene would’ve looked even more funny
Imagine how lost those guys were to send someone there to ask nicely for lenience and conditional surrender.
"Hey we might have slaugthered 30 million of you guys for no reason, but come on, cut us some slack here."
For no reason ? You have alot of history books to read !
@@MrShadowofthewind I am 90% sure that you're only referring to "Icebreaker" because that's all morons like you ever mention when they suggest Germany had lrgitimate reasons to attack the USSR.
@@MrShadowofthewind yes no reason. Give me a good reason for raping and killing of 30 million people mostly civilians
@@Rubashow Scrap that, you are beyond saving, stay ignorant !
That Krebs head snap was fucking crisp......
1:48 I love the detail on that document, signed by Admiral Dönitz the successor to Hitler at that point
There's probably a PDF out there somewhere of Hitler's testament where he appointed a whole new cabinet of the German Government before blowing his brains out.
It was in German, also. I wonder if Chuikov could read German in real life?
After all these years, hands down still the best movie! I hope a director’s cut comes out
This scene actually occurred - that’s the craziest thing
thank you for upload of this scene. obviously I have saw in cinema and tv a very heavy edited and shortened clip without any of the near farce of Chuikov making generals out of his dinner guests. another thing that helps is having correct Russian translations in this clip which are absent from the screen version. They help to show Chuikov in a more intelligent light rather than the gruff Soviet previously presented
Goodness me! Looking for this for years.
His map pointing skills led him to know how to speak Russian
With his fish... And maps too.
Because he was able to locate most of the Russia cities on the map - that's how he learned Russian.
Thanks for uploading with original subtitles!
It is just an amazing scene and It was deleted. Damn This film is so good that just gold Scenes are deleted.