The breakpoint is 13. As follows: you lose incrementally 1 more each soft way until you win. The way to calculate the total loss is the number of losses times one half of the next number in the sequence. For example, if you are up to 10 you have lost a total of 10 times one half of eleven or $55 and if you hit a hard 4 or 10 you will win $70 for a $15 profit. Obviously more if you hit 6 or 8. At $13 you will have lost a total of 13 times 7 (half of 14) or $91 and a hard 4 or 10 will pay $91. So as long as you hit a hard way before you get to $13 you will make a profit. At $13 you break even and after that you will have a net loss if you hit 4 or 10 hard. There is some wiggle room in the equation if you hit a 6 or 8 but 13 is the point that you are at risk... This does not take the larger loss of 7 out into consideration. As noted in prior comment that reduces the number of soft way losses you can suffer before break point... So I would agree that somewhere around 10 is probably closer to the break point considering the possibility of 7 outs...
KenKnowsGambling rolled this same strategy out a few months ago! I added the 5&9 ladder to it and did great with it! Keeps the Hardway levels down a bit! Thanks for the video
Love this system. I added putting a bet on the 2 and 12 on level 1,5,10 etc...as a sort of bonus bingo at thirty to one. Been playing in 15 minute increments and have averaged a win 9 out of 10 times. Average win between $100.00 and $200.00. Its a low budget strategy and losses don't get out of hand. Keep up the good work!
Crappy, All I have to say about the time thing is - People watch TV for an hour at a time or more. how many shows do they watch each week. So can put out as many minutes that you need. If I don't like the content on a video, I'm not going to show it to end, I don't care how short it is. so, keep up great work, and take all the time you need to do the content you want!
I am down -114 right now testing. But that is computer rolling so not entirely random. Lots of 7 outs, and several hardways on the come outs. So I switched to on for the come out and then hit a couple 7 on the come out. I am cursed lol.
And then I ran it along with Split the Sisters and am up +200 from the -114 I was at. Started hitting more hard ways and having the inside numbers played, especially 5&9, made up for rolls that either were a 5 or 9 or an easy 6 or 8. With any hard ways I hit on 4 & 10 I just bought 4 or 10 or both. I started with $500, was down to $386, and finally am up to $700. It is interesting, in times before when just playing StS, I would play the 4 and 10 hard and if I hit, would buy them. But if I got an easy 4 or 10 I would just not play those hard ways again. This progression adds a new element. I also noted that the highest I got in the progression in this stretch of winning, was 10. I would hit the hard way before then. In the losing stretch I was often up to 10 or as much as 16 before hitting the hard way. As someone said above, I think the break point is 10 on the progression. After that you would be losing out.
You can only survive 3 7 outs in a row worst case before going negative and requiring multiple hits at the same level to get back to even, risking another 7 at elevated level and digging a deeper hole. Worst case assuming only 7 outs and winning only on the 7 to 1 hard 4 or 10: 2 sevens loses 4+8 or 12 units and the next progression 3 winning hard 4 or 10, 3×7 is 21, so you're ahead. 3 sevens loses 4+8+12 or 24 units and the next progression 4 × 7 is 28; still up by 4. 4 sevens in a row loses 4+8+12+16 or 40, but 5×7 is only 35, already a loser.. time to walk away unless you have nerves of steel.. I don't.
Dang, wish I would have seen these videos yesterday. Went to the casino last night and had to play bubble craps because the single table was crazy busy. Got my butt handed to me. That's the way they roll sometimes. Would have loved to try this. I'm going to try this out for sure, it seems kind of fun to play.
My favorite strategy is pass line with odds, putting minimum on 6 and 8. Then once I have $25 profit I put that $25 on the field. Once I make another $25 profit I place another field bet. If I hit my field bets I will double it here and there using only the profits. I've had some great runs hitting 2s and 12s on the field when I had $50 or more out there. But never bet the field with my own money.
Tried with a $500 bankroll. Like others who have pointed it out, if you hit numerous PSO's or a run of big reds, then it's hard to climb back. I left being down 300. Would have been completely wiped if it weren't for one last hard 6.
Been tinkering with this one Crappy. Bump up the units to $5. Only add a unit when you seven out. This makes the strategy more of a grind but it doesn't punish you for multiple PSO's. Been working for me so far.
I resumed the session and almost immediately levelled up to 15 ($75) before winning again. The win did not make up the loss, so I expect you will begin falling behind around level 10 or so depending on it you seven out several times or not.
When you say you played at the $5 level, does that mean you increased the bet $5 each time? Or just started at $5, then increased by $1 each level? Thanks for clarifying.
Best I’ve ever done w many craps strategies was min bet ($3) on all hop 7 ($9). Double the bets after 3-4 losses. Many bubble craps roll 7 every 2-8 numbers consistently.
I lost track of how many rolls you were averaging before you seven out and on this session is was pretty high. So that is why the strategy worked out. Same on your other videos. If you get a table where the average roll is 5 to 8 before the seven out, you will be in a hole you won't be able to dig out of, even if you hit a hard way or two in there.
LOL..the back wall. The casino where I used to play would tell you that it had to pass the half way line and at least one die had to hit the back wall. I was throwing at a full table and on the 15th roll, the dice slipped from my fingers during the throw; nothing hit the back wall, only one dice went past the halfway line and the roll was a seven. The pit boss called it a good throw. EVERYONE started arguing with the pit about how they just violated their own rules by calling that a good throw. When the pit stood their ground, the entire table walked away.
Crappy! Where did you get that old Rainier hat? Looks like you've been up in my neck of the woods- Oregon! Great beer, better fishin'! Keep up the great work on your videos. I'm planning on using the cold table strat next week in Reno - the longer I'm on the table, the less time I have to spend with my mother in law😮😂
I like it for using time.. Theoretically it looks really good... but your pace is 5-7 times quicker than a typical table unless you are the only one playing...
Crappy if my math is good, I think I have your breakeven bounderies for the strategy. In the worst case senario you would roll three straight sevens and then hit a hard 4 or 10. Win 28, lose 24. The best case senario you lose easy 18 times, no sevens and then win a hard 6 or 8. Lose 171 win 171. So breakeven is between 3 and 18. The less sevens the longer you can go.
Has that system been tested with a simulation of 10000 events or more? Also, most gaming venues require a table minimum pass line bet. How do you off set those wagers?
Add the place four and ten but increase by 5 on a seven out. When the 4 or ten hit soft come back down to base of 5 as you are getting paid 9 for 5 on the place bets then if you get a hard way 4 or 10 you get paid 9 to1 on the hard way and simultaneously 9 to 5 for the place bet. This could eliminate the need to raise the hard ways every time a soft 4 or 10 hit. Just a thought.
It depends on how you lose. A 7 takes all four bets instead of one when you roll an easy. If you lose to a seven four times in a row you lose 40 and get paid 35 for a hard 4 or 10.
ran this on crapsee, I got the HW's up to 19 $ on each. This will never recover from a bunch of 7 outs Would have to hit 2 or 3 in succession to fix it. Just saying
You lose the total amount that you wager times the house advantage on each individual bet. It makes no difference how you vary your bets. It makes no difference what combination of bets you make.
you guys are looking at this all wrong. tom you get all of us to give to a charity. Brandon you make money by having underdog promoting the fight, and underdog makes money by letting us bet on it
The house edge on each of these bets is over 9%. With 4 such bets going at the same time the casino will NEVER ban this strategy, and will probably encourage you. You may have, like with most strategies, short winning sessions, but when you get up towards steps 8-12 of your betting ladder, you are entering the danger zone. In all honesty, to call this "the perfect craps strategy" is approaching the realm of those videos claiming to have a strategy for winning lottery scratch-offs. Sorry, Crappy, but if you had a "boog" hanging from your nose, you'd want me to tell you, right? Peace.
You're up little too much because you pocketed your losses after the first win. No biggie. I'm sure if you watched it back, you'd seen it as well. Thanks for making great content.
worst place to practice anything with dice. That guy has that set to "Cant win" since he wants to prove a point that its mathematically impossible to win in the long term. What he doesnt seem to realize is there is winning in the short term.... but that site hasnt figured that out as it immediately does the opposite of any strategy youre deploying.
@@nicklazzaro5055 And you have proof of this accusation? why not use energy on something constructive instead of bashing someone who gives people the real information about gambling eh? Of course anyone can win in the short term but make no mistake casinos are in business for one reason only, they make money at it. They don't pay anyone even money and the long term will win the race every time...
Crappy, if you bet hardways no matter how you bet hardways, you will always eventually go broke quickly. You & the other subscribers will always find that out soon enough. It's only just a matter of time. Find out for yourself then reply.
oh my god I should have listened to you my lord and savior. I don't know how you managed to conjure up the mental fortitude capable of estimating that before us peasants. I'll be sure to listen to you next time as you clearly know all. Sorry for my inaptitude and lack of awareness for the reality of this situation prior to my realization, I hope you forgive me and continue providing such amazing advice to us retards.
The breakpoint is 13. As follows: you lose incrementally 1 more each soft way until you win. The way to calculate the total loss is the number of losses times one half of the next number in the sequence. For example, if you are up to 10 you have lost a total of 10 times one half of eleven or $55 and if you hit a hard 4 or 10 you will win $70 for a $15 profit. Obviously more if you hit 6 or 8. At $13 you will have lost a total of 13 times 7 (half of 14) or $91 and a hard 4 or 10 will pay $91. So as long as you hit a hard way before you get to $13 you will make a profit. At $13 you break even and after that you will have a net loss if you hit 4 or 10 hard. There is some wiggle room in the equation if you hit a 6 or 8 but 13 is the point that you are at risk... This does not take the larger loss of 7 out into consideration. As noted in prior comment that reduces the number of soft way losses you can suffer before break point... So I would agree that somewhere around 10 is probably closer to the break point considering the possibility of 7 outs...
KenKnowsGambling rolled this same strategy out a few months ago! I added the 5&9 ladder to it and did great with it! Keeps the Hardway levels down a bit! Thanks for the video
whats name that vid ws cant find it
@@drdontpassone8164 on my channel it's called The Abacus from Ken Knows Gambling! I tweaked a bit !
Welcome back, brother! Happy to see you posting again!
Love this system. I added putting a bet on the 2 and 12 on level 1,5,10 etc...as a sort of bonus bingo at thirty to one. Been playing in 15 minute increments and have averaged a win 9 out of 10 times. Average win between $100.00 and $200.00. Its a low budget strategy and losses don't get out of hand. Keep up the good work!
Love this system. Thank you for sharing.
Crappy, All I have to say about the time thing is - People watch TV for an hour at a time or more. how many shows do they watch each week. So can put out as many minutes that you need. If I don't like the content on a video, I'm not going to show it to end, I don't care how short it is. so, keep up great work, and take all the time you need to do the content you want!
Had my first losing hand. -84. But recovered quickly. Lots of 7 outs
I am down -114 right now testing. But that is computer rolling so not entirely random. Lots of 7 outs, and several hardways on the come outs. So I switched to on for the come out and then hit a couple 7 on the come out. I am cursed lol.
And then I ran it along with Split the Sisters and am up +200 from the -114 I was at. Started hitting more hard ways and having the inside numbers played, especially 5&9, made up for rolls that either were a 5 or 9 or an easy 6 or 8. With any hard ways I hit on 4 & 10 I just bought 4 or 10 or both. I started with $500, was down to $386, and finally am up to $700. It is interesting, in times before when just playing StS, I would play the 4 and 10 hard and if I hit, would buy them. But if I got an easy 4 or 10 I would just not play those hard ways again. This progression adds a new element.
I also noted that the highest I got in the progression in this stretch of winning, was 10. I would hit the hard way before then. In the losing stretch I was often up to 10 or as much as 16 before hitting the hard way. As someone said above, I think the break point is 10 on the progression. After that you would be losing out.
You can only survive 3 7 outs in a row worst case before going negative and requiring multiple hits at the same level to get back to even, risking another 7 at elevated level and digging a deeper hole. Worst case assuming only 7 outs and winning only on the 7 to 1 hard 4 or 10: 2 sevens loses 4+8 or 12 units and the next progression 3 winning hard 4 or 10, 3×7 is 21, so you're ahead. 3 sevens loses 4+8+12 or 24 units and the next progression 4 × 7 is 28; still up by 4. 4 sevens in a row loses 4+8+12+16 or 40, but 5×7 is only 35, already a loser.. time to walk away unless you have nerves of steel.. I don't.
Awesome strategy. Fun to watch!
Dang, wish I would have seen these videos yesterday. Went to the casino last night and had to play bubble craps because the single table was crazy busy. Got my butt handed to me. That's the way they roll sometimes. Would have loved to try this. I'm going to try this out for sure, it seems kind of fun to play.
My favorite strategy is pass line with odds, putting minimum on 6 and 8. Then once I have $25 profit I put that $25 on the field. Once I make another $25 profit I place another field bet. If I hit my field bets I will double it here and there using only the profits. I've had some great runs hitting 2s and 12s on the field when I had $50 or more out there. But never bet the field with my own money.
Tried with a $500 bankroll. Like others who have pointed it out, if you hit numerous PSO's or a run of big reds, then it's hard to climb back. I left being down 300. Would have been completely wiped if it weren't for one last hard 6.
Why not play the seven with this strategy. Lay bets or D.C., Enough to cover hard bets plus a little.
Been tinkering with this one Crappy. Bump up the units to $5. Only add a unit when you seven out. This makes the strategy more of a grind but it doesn't punish you for multiple PSO's. Been working for me so far.
The strategy shows its ugly side if you have a lot of 7 outs after level 10 without a hard way hit
Love it! Worst case scenario free drinks all night!
I rolled it for a half hour on Crapsee at the $5 level and I'm up $500. Got up to level 7 once or twice. Sevened out several times.
I resumed the session and almost immediately levelled up to 15 ($75) before winning again. The win did not make up the loss, so I expect you will begin falling behind around level 10 or so depending on it you seven out several times or not.
When you say you played at the $5 level, does that mean you increased the bet $5 each time? Or just started at $5, then increased by $1 each level? Thanks for clarifying.
I started at $5 and went up by $5 each time. Crappy is right, though. If you stay at it long enough.....
Best I’ve ever done w many craps strategies was min bet ($3) on all hop 7 ($9). Double the bets after 3-4 losses. Many bubble craps roll 7 every 2-8 numbers consistently.
I lost track of how many rolls you were averaging before you seven out and on this session is was pretty high. So that is why the strategy worked out. Same on your other videos. If you get a table where the average roll is 5 to 8 before the seven out, you will be in a hole you won't be able to dig out of, even if you hit a hard way or two in there.
LOL..the back wall.
The casino where I used to play would tell you that it had to pass the half way line and at least one die had to hit the back wall. I was throwing at a full table and on the 15th roll, the dice slipped from my fingers during the throw; nothing hit the back wall, only one dice went past the halfway line and the roll was a seven. The pit boss called it a good throw. EVERYONE started arguing with the pit about how they just violated their own rules by calling that a good throw. When the pit stood their ground, the entire table walked away.
I didnt write it out, but it seemed like there were some long rolls that would have profited for any light side strat.
Can someone explain this condensed? I have a comprehensive understanding mishap.
Crappy! Where did you get that old Rainier hat? Looks like you've been up in my neck of the woods- Oregon! Great beer, better fishin'! Keep up the great work on your videos. I'm planning on using the cold table strat next week in Reno - the longer I'm on the table, the less time I have to spend with my mother in law😮😂
I grew up on whidbey island in Washington. A friend of the mine got me that hat my first beer I ever drank Lol. Can’t get it in sc
@@crappythecrapsman1107 I'll drink a couple tall boys for you!
I like it for using time.. Theoretically it looks really good... but your pace is 5-7 times quicker than a typical table unless you are the only one playing...
You are the man my wife played for three hours only lost on one roll and she won 450 dollars.booyaa
thanks crappy!! keep em comin!
I miss playing craps for a living 😢 someone invite me out to have an excuse to tell the Ole lady lol
Crappy if my math is good, I think I have your breakeven bounderies for the strategy. In the worst case senario you would roll three straight sevens and then hit a hard 4 or 10. Win 28, lose 24. The best case senario you lose easy 18 times, no sevens and then win a hard 6 or 8. Lose 171 win 171. So breakeven is between 3 and 18. The less sevens the longer you can go.
Im rolling this out with cold table. Doing ok.
I was thinking that to awesome
Hard 12 ? When does easy 12 roll ?
Tried it twice. First time won over $100....second time I got up to $44 on each hard way before it hit....after it hit I was still down over $1000.
That’s ugly. I’m playing it now Still holding strong. Are you going up $1 ? Or $5
Just hit my first huge lose got level 21 and a bunch of point sevens
Definitely a grind, but a good way to kill some time
I'll run this method on a Bubble Craps machine and let you know how it goes.
Crappy! Thx, a bit of a grind, played this out on Crapsee, ouch...
Has that system been tested with a simulation of 10000 events or more? Also, most gaming venues require a table minimum pass line bet. How do you off set those wagers?
Only bet when you are not the shooter
I like this but for only a bubble craps game. That many rolls on a real table would take so much time.
You would have to have your bets ready to go when they get knocked off
Add the place four and ten but increase by 5 on a seven out. When the 4 or ten hit soft come back down to base of 5 as you are getting paid 9 for 5 on the place bets then if you get a hard way 4 or 10 you get paid 9 to1 on the hard way and simultaneously 9 to 5 for the place bet. This could eliminate the need to raise the hard ways every time a soft 4 or 10 hit. Just a thought.
I like the way or ease of it but don't know further than that yet.
Still up it takes a few set back loses. But so far recovers No Strategy can win on every shooter
I was at level 12 and hit and was still under water.
It depends on how you lose. A 7 takes all four bets instead of one when you roll an easy. If you lose to a seven four times in a row you lose 40 and get paid 35 for a hard 4 or 10.
ran this on crapsee, I got the HW's up to 19 $ on each. This will never recover from a bunch of 7 outs
Would have to hit 2 or 3 in succession to fix it. Just saying
you are using $1 to track each time you lose... but then when you win... you take that money.
You lose the total amount that you wager times the house advantage on each individual bet. It makes no difference how you vary your bets. It makes no difference what combination of bets you make.
Just tried it on Crapsee: lost the entire $500 bubble craps bankroll. Not my day.
amazing how there were no 7s rolled... which would wipe everything out. on real craps tables in casinos, that 7 comes all the time!
Cool
Run it with a 4X DC hedge beyond level 8
Haven’t lost yet ? Man I can’t wait
you guys are looking at this all wrong. tom you get all of us to give to a charity. Brandon you make money by having underdog promoting the fight, and underdog makes money by letting us bet on it
You have been lucky with the rollout that mostly hitting the point. The more 7 you hit at a higher level will make this not viable.
The dice don’t know anything. The dice have no memory. The dice don’t know how much you are betting or how you vary your bets.
Crappy 🤘🏽
The house edge on each of these bets is over 9%. With 4 such bets going at the same time the casino will NEVER ban this strategy, and will probably encourage you. You may have, like with most strategies, short winning sessions, but when you get up towards steps 8-12 of your betting ladder, you are entering the danger zone. In all honesty, to call this "the perfect craps strategy" is approaching the realm of those videos claiming to have a strategy for winning lottery scratch-offs. Sorry, Crappy, but if you had a "boog" hanging from your nose, you'd want me to tell you, right? Peace.
You're up little too much because you pocketed your losses after the first win. No biggie. I'm sure if you watched it back, you'd seen it as well. Thanks for making great content.
He counted the payout from his losses. Unless he double dipped one time
I went to level 17 on wiz of odds so not a real dice table
worst place to practice anything with dice. That guy has that set to "Cant win" since he wants to prove a point that its mathematically impossible to win in the long term. What he doesnt seem to realize is there is winning in the short term.... but that site hasnt figured that out as it immediately does the opposite of any strategy youre deploying.
@@nicklazzaro5055 ur probably right thanks bro
@@nicklazzaro5055 And you have proof of this accusation? why not use energy on something constructive instead of bashing someone who gives people the real information about gambling eh? Of course anyone can win in the short term but make no mistake casinos are in business for one reason only, they make money at it. They don't pay anyone even money and the long term will win the race every time...
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Crappy, if you bet hardways no matter how you bet hardways, you will always eventually go broke quickly. You & the other subscribers will always find that out soon enough. It's only just a matter of time. Find out for yourself then reply.
oh my god I should have listened to you my lord and savior. I don't know how you managed to conjure up the mental fortitude capable of estimating that before us peasants. I'll be sure to listen to you next time as you clearly know all. Sorry for my inaptitude and lack of awareness for the reality of this situation prior to my realization, I hope you forgive me and continue providing such amazing advice to us retards.
stay away any strategy bubble craps..............games is rigged hope u know dat
any reputable casino does not rig its games. they don't have to because they have an edge on every bet.
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Tried in on line at wizards and lost 400 pretty fast.